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Post by Lobster on Mar 5, 2021 12:07:40 GMT
I've seen this shared on a few pages. Not the worst idea, I don't think.  |
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Post by Wortleyblue on Mar 5, 2021 12:15:03 GMT
I've seen this shared on a few pages. Not the worst idea, I don't think. View AttachmentCant see Rangers fans voting to be Celtic  |
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Post by jedthehumanoid on Mar 5, 2021 15:24:05 GMT
So if Wales raises £32 billion in taxes the expenditure is £42billion the shortfall being made up from Central Government thats some tax hike to cover the shortfall cant see the Welsh voting for that linkThe full implications would need to be laid out, unlike Brexit where most people were ill informed about the consequences and just saw slogans on buses etc. Spell out what it would mean for the country (pro's and con's) and then let the people make an informed vote. The article linked does say that... "This is the picture now. It’s not the same picture it would be after independence. It’s quite probable Wales would spend considerably less in certain policy areas – defence is an obvious one, but there are others like foreign affairs and public administration." I would guess there would need to be discussions about resources (water etc.) that are sourced in Wales for use in England currently. It's interesting. Like I said earlier, I'm for it but not at any cost - obviously a thorough and honest assessment is needed. |
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Post by blaconboy on Mar 5, 2021 16:15:45 GMT
So if Wales raises £32 billion in taxes the expenditure is £42billion the shortfall being made up from Central Government thats some tax hike to cover the shortfall cant see the Welsh voting for that linkBy the sale of excess electric power and water to England at commercial rates |
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Mar 5, 2021 17:09:24 GMT
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Mar 5, 2021 17:09:24 GMT
Welsh Independence poll shows support running at 40% . Farage thought that Brexit would light a fuse under the EU looks like it has lit a fuse under the UK. Lol Good job I ve made my application for Irish citizenship. Your application is taking a long time mate, maybe they've knocked you back? It could take upto 18 months , so many people unhappy with the cesspit that the UK has become. |
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Mar 5, 2021 17:17:08 GMT
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Post by Oaks Blue on Mar 5, 2021 17:17:08 GMT
Your application is taking a long time mate, maybe they've knocked you back? It could take upto 18 months , so many people unhappy with the cesspit that the UK has become. Cesspit!!! Haha |
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Post by superman on Mar 5, 2021 17:42:53 GMT
If it is such a cesspit why are there so many Irish folk residing here? Mmmm...
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Post by Lobster on Mar 5, 2021 17:56:38 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 5, 2021 18:04:19 GMT
The full implications would need to be laid out, unlike Brexit where most people were ill informed about the consequences and just saw slogans on buses etc. Spell out what it would mean for the country (pro's and con's) and then let the people make an informed vote. The article linked does say that... "This is the picture now. It’s not the same picture it would be after independence. It’s quite probable Wales would spend considerably less in certain policy areas – defence is an obvious one, but there are others like foreign affairs and public administration." I would guess there would need to be discussions about resources (water etc.) that are sourced in Wales for use in England currently. It's interesting. Like I said earlier, I'm for it but not at any cost - obviously a thorough and honest assessment is needed. Well said, we need to look past the headlines from those with vested interests - the MSM to support the U.K. government etc. This little guide is a great starting point... Independence In Your Pocket |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 18:40:42 GMT
I don't expect an apology. The stupidity of a man who works for the NHS to say you get treated or not depends on your personality
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 19:54:44 GMT
So I'm stupid because you have done what you always do. Just try for once to make a comment without the snide comments. It's a good job your health isn't decided by your personality.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Mar 6, 2021 6:39:05 GMT
It could take upto 18 months , so many people unhappy with the cesspit that the UK has become. Cesspit!!! Haha A country ruled by Right wing, English popularists, closely aligned, with the openly Racist and gutter politics of Farage and the Daily Mail and Express, who are intent on burning bridges and openly antagonising the EU and the US, over Northern Ireland and threatening the Peace Process. No wonder the Irish, Scots and ever increasing numbers of the Welsh want out.I dont feel anything for this country and hate what it has become. |
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Post by delamereal on Mar 6, 2021 13:26:49 GMT
A country ruled by Right wing, English popularists, closely aligned, with the openly Racist and gutter politics of Farage and the Daily Mail and Express, who are intent on burning bridges and openly antagonising the EU and the US, over Northern Ireland and threatening the Peace Process. No wonder the Irish, Scots and ever increasing numbers of the Welsh want out. I dont feel anything for this country and hate what it has become.Feel free to leave at any time then. |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 6, 2021 14:22:29 GMT
A country ruled by Right wing, English popularists, closely aligned, with the openly Racist and gutter politics of Farage and the Daily Mail and Express, who are intent on burning bridges and openly antagonising the EU and the US, over Northern Ireland and threatening the Peace Process. No wonder the Irish, Scots and ever increasing numbers of the Welsh want out.I dont feel anything for this country and hate what it has become. It’s saddening really when you think about what the U.K. has become - a fascist, white English nationalist state. Yet you’ll still get childish comments like the one above mine if you ever mention that fact. |
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Post by Lobster on Mar 6, 2021 15:46:48 GMT
A country ruled by Right wing, English popularists, closely aligned, with the openly Racist and gutter politics of Farage and the Daily Mail and Express, who are intent on burning bridges and openly antagonising the EU and the US, over Northern Ireland and threatening the Peace Process. No wonder the Irish, Scots and ever increasing numbers of the Welsh want out. I dont feel anything for this country and hate what it has become.Feel free to leave at any time then. Nice idea. If only there were some sort of political and economic union that guaranteed the freedom of movement to facilitate that. |
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Post by Wortleyblue on Mar 6, 2021 15:51:02 GMT
Feel free to leave at any time then. Nice idea. If only there were some sort of political and economic union that guaranteed the freedom of movement to facilitate that. You can go virtually to wherever you want I have relatives who have left the UK and gone to live in Australia USA Tenerife and New Zealand without any problems |
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Post by Oaks Blue on Mar 6, 2021 16:16:07 GMT
Nice idea. If only there were some sort of political and economic union that guaranteed the freedom of movement to facilitate that. You can go virtually to wherever you want I have relatives who have left the UK and gone to live in Australia USA Tenerife and New Zealand without any problems Yeah but the EU was the only place to be! We are lost without such a valuable membership! I'm going to apply for citizenship of Syria, its got to be better than this cesspit |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 6, 2021 17:12:36 GMT
It probably was better, before western intervention.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Mar 6, 2021 17:21:04 GMT
A country ruled by Right wing, English popularists, closely aligned, with the openly Racist and gutter politics of Farage and the Daily Mail and Express, who are intent on burning bridges and openly antagonising the EU and the US, over Northern Ireland and threatening the Peace Process. No wonder the Irish, Scots and ever increasing numbers of the Welsh want out. I dont feel anything for this country and hate what it has become.Feel free to leave at any time then. I may well do that when I retire and leave England to the Racists. Started my application to become a citizen of the Republic of Ireland |
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Post by Oaks Blue on Mar 6, 2021 18:35:05 GMT
It probably was better, before western intervention. Dear me |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 6, 2021 18:40:57 GMT
It probably was better, before western intervention. Dear me What? Large-scale bombing generally does worsen a country’s infrastructure, yes. |
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Post by lincolnexile on Mar 6, 2021 18:42:09 GMT
Feel free to leave at any time then. I may well do that when I retire and leave England to the Racists. Started my application to become a citizen of the Republic of Ireland I thought you’d applied for it months ago. We’ve arranged a leaving do and had a whip round for a pressie. 😀 |
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Mar 6, 2021 19:04:02 GMT
I may well do that when I retire and leave England to the Racists. Started my application to become a citizen of the Republic of Ireland I thought you’d applied for it months ago. We’ve arranged a leaving do and had a whip round for a pressie. 😀 18 month waiting list for citizenship. So, many people wanting to depart this land of dope and Tories,that the Irish immigration authorties cant cope😎😁 |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2021 19:47:31 GMT
anybody thinking of moving to ireland needs to have a big bank account.it was very expensive last time i was there about 18 mths ago.i just checked cost of living 14% higher than uk house rentals are 50% higher than uk average.
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Post by Deva Chanter on Mar 6, 2021 21:07:40 GMT
It probably was better, before western intervention. Dear me There were parts of Syria that were absolutely beautiful - and some stunning beaches. Of course, we never get shown this part of the country so we kind of become conditioned to believe it to be completely made up of the images of vast swathes of rubble that we always see on the news. |
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Post by Oaks Blue on Mar 6, 2021 21:27:02 GMT
There were parts of Syria that were absolutely beautiful - and some stunning beaches. Of course, we never get shown this part of the country so we kind of become conditioned to believe it to be completely made up of the images of vast swathes of rubble that we always see on the news. Have you been or do you base your knowledge on other people's opinions like Mancot does? I mentioned Syria as a joke, but there's always a melodramatic angle you guys take for any person or country, it's always someone else's fault when something fails. |
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Mar 6, 2021 22:50:13 GMT
anybody thinking of moving to ireland needs to have a big bank account.it was very expensive last time i was there about 18 mths ago.i just checked cost of living 14% higher than uk house rentals are 50% higher than uk average. Dublin is one of the most expensive cities, in Europs, but the standard of living is much higher than here. A real 'Celtic Tiger' , that has benefited vastly from EU membership and throwing off the dead hand of Imperialism A great example to what an Independent Scotland can achieve. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2021 7:29:18 GMT
Ireland is the eigth most expensive in Europe. UK is 27th.it all comes with a price. If you can afford to go good look to you. A couple of my mates moved over about 20 years ago it was brilliant till the arse fell out of it. Both now in Australia.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2021 8:21:10 GMT
Dublin has more rough sleepers than London. My mates are top quantity surveyors and we're on mega money. Still finished up out of work when the property boom collapsed. I used to stay in a place called ballina County mayo my work mate was born there along with his brother and 10 sister he came to England at 15.i used to wind him up and say would you ever go back Patrick. He always said your feckin joking at £4.70 a pint for Guinness.
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