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Post by jb on Feb 18, 2019 10:51:52 GMT
Taken from the Company’s own statement: “Current trading and future prospects have also been seriously affected by the uncertainty created by the Brexit process, which has led to our inability to secure valuable flying contracts in Europe and lack of confidence around bmi's ability to continue flying between destinations in Europe." Yep, nothing to do with Brexshit. To be fair, companies will use any topical excuse in an official statement. I remember when the last election took place, DFS blamed it for a downturn in business. As if anyone was thinking “I’m not buying a half-priced couch under Corbyn!”I'd love to see Corbyn try and sell a sofa at DFS. He'd do a lot of shouting but not actually describe the product and it's dimension. You'd then be none the wiser as to what you are buying. He'd then pass onto his assistant John who'd also do a lot of shouting and just say "Don't buy next door from Sofology as they are rubbish and if you go there you should be disowned by your family". If by some miracle they got your sale they'd then pass the sales part to Diane from Hackney who'd sort out the finances. The sofa which was on sale for £1200.00 would only cost £12.00 with Diane sorting it out. |
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Feb 18, 2019 10:58:12 GMT
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Post by Deva Chanter on Feb 18, 2019 10:58:12 GMT
To be fair, companies will use any topical excuse in an official statement. I remember when the last election took place, DFS blamed it for a downturn in business. As if anyone was thinking “I’m not buying a half-priced couch under Corbyn!”I'd love to see Corbyn try and sell a sofa at DFS. He'd do a lot of shouting but not actually describe the product and it's dimension. You'd then be none the wiser as to what you are buying. He'd then pass onto his assistant John who'd also do a lot of shouting and just say "Don't buy next door from Sofology as they are rubbish and if you go there you should be disowned by your family". If by some miracle they got your sale they'd then pass the sales part to Diane from Hackney who'd sort out the finances. The sofa which was on sale for £1200.00 would only cost £12.00 with Diane sorting it out. No need to worry jb, you can now join the new 'Independent Group' represented by such political powerhouses as Angela 'I love taking money from private water companies' Smith, or Mike 'I loved paid holidays to Saudi Arabia' or how about Chuka 'working class people are trash' Umunna? |
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Feb 18, 2019 11:08:46 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Feb 18, 2019 11:08:46 GMT
The arguments these seven MPs are making don’t make any sense. Going on about how Labour “aren’t acting in the people’s interests” and so on. Why do they continue to ignore that Labour put in its best performance in a generation in the last election? Nobody went more against the people’s interests than Blair when he took us into that ridiculous war.
“Not listening to the people” would be to force another referendum rather than honour the wishes of the majority. You can’t keep having referendums just because you didn’t get the answer you wanted. What’s next after that? Best of three? Paper Scissors Stone to decide it?
If they were just honest and said they personally disagree with the direction Labour is going in, I’d have some respect for them, but instead they’re shitting on party members and MPs by using terms like ‘far-left’, ‘anti-Semitic’ etc and are trying to take the moral high-ground. It comes across as very insincere and self-serving.
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Feb 18, 2019 11:43:26 GMT
Post by Al on Feb 18, 2019 11:43:26 GMT
To be fair, companies will use any topical excuse in an official statement. I remember when the last election took place, DFS blamed it for a downturn in business. As if anyone was thinking “I’m not buying a half-priced couch under Corbyn!”I'd love to see Corbyn try and sell a sofa at DFS. He'd do a lot of shouting but not actually describe the product and it's dimension. You'd then be none the wiser as to what you are buying. He'd then pass onto his assistant John who'd also do a lot of shouting and just say "Don't buy next door from Sofology as they are rubbish and if you go there you should be disowned by your family". If by some miracle they got your sale they'd then pass the sales part to Diane from Hackney who'd sort out the finances. The sofa which was on sale for £1200.00 would only cost £12.00 with Diane sorting it out. Could be worse, at least Chris Grayling isn't involved.. |
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Feb 18, 2019 11:46:58 GMT
Post by Al on Feb 18, 2019 11:46:58 GMT
The arguments these seven MPs are making don’t make any sense. Going on about how Labour “aren’t acting in the people’s interests” and so on. Why do they continue to ignore that Labour put in its best performance in a generation in the last election? Nobody went more against the people’s interests than Blair when he took us into that ridiculous war. “Not listening to the people” would be to force another referendum rather than honour the wishes of the majority. You can’t keep having referendums just because you didn’t get the answer you wanted. What’s next after that? Best of three? Paper Scissors Stone to decide it? If they were just honest and said they personally disagree with the direction Labour is going in, I’d have some respect for them, but instead they’re shitting on party members and MPs by using terms like ‘far-left’, ‘anti-Semitic’ etc and are trying to take the moral high-ground. It comes across as very insincere and self-serving. Are you surprised by that? Vast majority of MPs in the house of commons are very insincere and self-serving, and it's always been that way for as long as I can remember.
Just look at how May and the Tories have handled Brexit and the negotiations. It's been one massive game to keep her party from splitting, and appease to appease the DUP, at no point has she, nor any of her party put the needs of the people of this country first. Had she had the common decency to do that she would have reached a cross party consensus BEFORE triggering article 50.
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Feb 18, 2019 11:54:20 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Feb 18, 2019 11:54:20 GMT
The arguments these seven MPs are making don’t make any sense. Going on about how Labour “aren’t acting in the people’s interests” and so on. Why do they continue to ignore that Labour put in its best performance in a generation in the last election? Nobody went more against the people’s interests than Blair when he took us into that ridiculous war. “Not listening to the people” would be to force another referendum rather than honour the wishes of the majority. You can’t keep having referendums just because you didn’t get the answer you wanted. What’s next after that? Best of three? Paper Scissors Stone to decide it? If they were just honest and said they personally disagree with the direction Labour is going in, I’d have some respect for them, but instead they’re shitting on party members and MPs by using terms like ‘far-left’, ‘anti-Semitic’ etc and are trying to take the moral high-ground. It comes across as very insincere and self-serving. Are you surprised by that? Vast majority of MPs in the house of commons are very insincere and self-serving, and it's always been that way for as long as I can remember.
Just look at how May and the Tories have handled Brexit and the negotiations. It's been one massive game to keep her party from splitting, and appease to appease the DUP, at no point has she, nor any of her party put the needs of the people of this country first. Had she had the common decency to do that she would have reached a cross party consensus BEFORE triggering article 50.
I’m not surprised, just disappointed I suppose. Chuka Ummana’s rhetoric makes me want to ram my fingers down my throat. He’s going on about how everyone’s sick of politics and it doesn’t have to be this way, but insincere soundbites like this are exactly what people should be sick of. |
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Feb 18, 2019 12:10:17 GMT
Post by jb on Feb 18, 2019 12:10:17 GMT
I'd love to see Corbyn try and sell a sofa at DFS. He'd do a lot of shouting but not actually describe the product and it's dimension. You'd then be none the wiser as to what you are buying. He'd then pass onto his assistant John who'd also do a lot of shouting and just say "Don't buy next door from Sofology as they are rubbish and if you go there you should be disowned by your family". If by some miracle they got your sale they'd then pass the sales part to Diane from Hackney who'd sort out the finances. The sofa which was on sale for £1200.00 would only cost £12.00 with Diane sorting it out. Could be worse, at least Chris Grayling isn't involved.. He'd have a load of sofas on a ferry due in at Ramsgate but they never arrive. In the end the order would be cancelled and never spoken of again. |
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Post by Deva Chanter on Feb 18, 2019 14:09:56 GMT
I see the launch of the new party is going swimmingly.
10.05am: Angela Smith resigns from the Labour Party citing "institutional racism"
12.45pm: Angela Smith, live on BBC2, calls BME people "a funny tinge"
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Post by Ian H Block on Feb 18, 2019 16:02:36 GMT
Honda shutting its Swindon plant with 3500 jobs at risk. There will be soon be nothing left and all this just to ease the erectile disfunction of middle-aged Gammons.
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Feb 18, 2019 17:12:12 GMT
Post by jb on Feb 18, 2019 17:12:12 GMT
Honda shutting its Swindon plant with 3500 jobs at risk. There will be soon be nothing left and all this just to ease the erectile disfunction of middle-aged Gammons. Shamima Begum wants to come back to England just in time for Brexit. |
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Feb 19, 2019 8:31:01 GMT
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Feb 19, 2019 8:31:01 GMT
3500 jobs to go in Honda,Swindon, with another7000 plus, in the supply chain. Swindon voted 55% to leave. Brexit cited as the main factor and the local MP is a Brexshiteer. 'It will rip the heart out of the local area'. It maybe a case of you won, get over it. What never ceases to amaze me is how, large sections of the working class, are prepared to vote against their own best interests All that it takes is a snakeoil salesman, wrapped, in the union flag and people flock to them in droves.
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Feb 19, 2019 8:39:18 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Feb 19, 2019 8:39:18 GMT
3500 jobs to go in Honda,Swindon, with another7000 plus, in the supply chain. Swindon voted 55% to leave. Brexit cited as the main factor and the local MP is a Brexshiteer. 'It will rip the heart out of the local area'. It maybe a case of you won, get over it. What never ceases to amaze me is how, large sections of the working class, are prepared to vote against their own best interests All that it takes is a snakeoil salesman, wrapped, in the union flag and people flock to them in droves. A good response I’ve heard to “you lost, get over it” is that actually we’ve all lost, it’s just that 48% of us already realise it. |
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Feb 19, 2019 11:00:12 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Feb 19, 2019 11:00:12 GMT
3500 jobs to go in Honda,Swindon, with another7000 plus, in the supply chain. Swindon voted 55% to leave. Brexit cited as the main factor and the local MP is a Brexshiteer. 'It will rip the heart out of the local area'. It maybe a case of you won, get over it. What never ceases to amaze me is how, large sections of the working class, are prepared to vote against their own best interests All that it takes is a snakeoil salesman, wrapped, in the union flag and people flock to them in droves. A good response I’ve heard to “you lost, get over it” is that actually we’ve all lost, it’s just that 48% of us already realise it. Almost 3 years into this shitshow and we are still waiting for our resident Brextremist to explain the benefits. |
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Feb 19, 2019 14:06:20 GMT
Post by Derry Blue on Feb 19, 2019 14:06:20 GMT
Honda shutting its Swindon plant with 3500 jobs at risk. There will be soon be nothing left and all this just to ease the erectile disfunction of middle-aged Gammons. Honda announce today that this move has nothing to do with Brexit. What a shame for you IHB. And you so love bad news. |
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Feb 19, 2019 15:19:21 GMT
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Feb 19, 2019 15:19:21 GMT
Best quote of the day ' Brexit is like Pompeii, if Pompeii voted for the volcano'.
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Feb 19, 2019 15:33:24 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Feb 19, 2019 15:33:24 GMT
Of course Angela Smith isn’t racist, some of her best friends are a funny tinge.
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Feb 19, 2019 16:15:22 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Feb 19, 2019 16:15:22 GMT
Honda shutting its Swindon plant with 3500 jobs at risk. There will be soon be nothing left and all this just to ease the erectile disfunction of middle-aged Gammons. Honda announce today that this move has nothing to do with Brexit. What a shame for you IHB. And you so love bad news. What a bizarre thing to say. Brexit or no, 3500 people losing their jobs is still bad news. |
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Feb 19, 2019 17:42:09 GMT
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Feb 19, 2019 17:42:09 GMT
Honda announce today that this move has nothing to do with Brexit. What a shame for you IHB. And you so love bad news. What a bizarre thing to say. Brexit or no, 3500 people losing their jobs is still bad news. ...but we'll be an independent country again, free to make our own laws...something something something. I'm sure that will come as some comfort to those affected.... |
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Feb 19, 2019 19:04:04 GMT
Post by Mean Machine on Feb 19, 2019 19:04:04 GMT
If anyone thinks that Honda shutting the Swindon plant is bad news, and it is, then think about the PSA group [Peugeot Citroen Vauxhall] plant at Ellesmere port
New car registrations are around 20% down on last year, considered opinion in the motor trade is that if PSA group have spare capacity in their plants around Europe then they are likely to move production there
I dont work at Ellesmere Port, perhaps some of you do and are better informed than me, however I dont think we have seen the last of the bad news from the Uk motor industry yet
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Feb 19, 2019 19:12:05 GMT
Post by Derry Blue on Feb 19, 2019 19:12:05 GMT
Honda announce today that this move has nothing to do with Brexit. What a shame for you IHB. And you so love bad news. What a bizarre thing to say. Brexit or no, 3500 people losing their jobs is still bad news. Classic Marxist deflection. You were wrong about the Honda closure but can’t or won’t admit it. The only truth is your truth. And you’re being your typical self to accuse your opponents of not caring. You know my post was focussed on the Brexit element and not on the closure itself, but of course it wouldn’t suit your ideology to admit you were wrong. |
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Feb 19, 2019 19:14:31 GMT
Post by Derry Blue on Feb 19, 2019 19:14:31 GMT
What a bizarre thing to say. Brexit or no, 3500 people losing their jobs is still bad news. ...but we'll be an independent country again, free to make our own laws...something something something. I'm sure that will come as some comfort to those affected.... Read my latest post. My comment was about IHB misleading earlier about the cause of the plant shutting. You can’t blame Brexit for this one. Though no doubt Remainers will try. |
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Feb 19, 2019 19:24:37 GMT
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Feb 19, 2019 19:24:37 GMT
...but we'll be an independent country again, free to make our own laws...something something something. I'm sure that will come as some comfort to those affected.... Read my latest post. My comment was about IHB misleading earlier about the cause of the plant shutting. You can’t blame Brexit for this one. Though no doubt Remainers will try. I did read it and I still suspect Brexit has been an influence in this, regardless of their denials. More broadly, anyone who is anyone says we're all going to be poorer as a result of this. We'll be a weaker country financially with a smaller economy. How can that be good for British people? |
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Feb 19, 2019 19:37:04 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Feb 19, 2019 19:37:04 GMT
Read my latest post. My comment was about IHB misleading earlier about the cause of the plant shutting. You can’t blame Brexit for this one. Though no doubt Remainers will try. I did read it and I still suspect Brexit has been an influence in this, regardless of their denials. More broadly, anyone who is anyone says we're all going to be poorer as a result of this. We'll be a weaker country financially with a smaller economy. How can that be good for British people? He’s got his Brex-Ray Specs on again. |
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Feb 19, 2019 19:53:17 GMT
Post by Derry Blue on Feb 19, 2019 19:53:17 GMT
Read my latest post. My comment was about IHB misleading earlier about the cause of the plant shutting. You can’t blame Brexit for this one. Though no doubt Remainers will try. I did read it and I still suspect Brexit has been an influence in this, regardless of their denials. More broadly, anyone who is anyone says we're all going to be poorer as a result of this. We'll be a weaker country financially with a smaller economy. How can that be good for British people? The four-in-one who normally attack leaving on this thread have, in the past, used the argument “you must believe the company”. So by their own standards why should we believe Honda is lying. It’s not good, but it’s not the fault of Brexit. Or is it a Remainer trait that the only truth is their truth. |
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Feb 19, 2019 19:56:25 GMT
Post by Derry Blue on Feb 19, 2019 19:56:25 GMT
I did read it and I still suspect Brexit has been an influence in this, regardless of their denials. More broadly, anyone who is anyone says we're all going to be poorer as a result of this. We'll be a weaker country financially with a smaller economy. How can that be good for British people? He’s got his Brex-Ray Specs on again. Your rules - believe the company, they know best. You’ve used it often enough in the past. Why not just admit that in your haste to blame everything on Brexit you jumped the gun. I notice you didn’t answer my point but resorted to petty little comments again. But at least you kept it clean. |
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Feb 19, 2019 22:01:57 GMT
Post by eyeswideopen on Feb 19, 2019 22:01:57 GMT
If anyone thinks that Honda shutting the Swindon plant is bad news, and it is, then think about the PSA group [Peugeot Citroen Vauxhall] plant at Ellesmere port New car registrations are around 20% down on last year, considered opinion in the motor trade is that if PSA group have spare capacity in their plants around Europe then they are likely to move production there I dont work at Ellesmere Port, perhaps some of you do and are better informed than me, however I dont think we have seen the last of the bad news from the Uk motor industry yet Announcement tomorrow but it won’t be what you expect 👍 |
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Post by Deva Chanter on Feb 20, 2019 0:00:34 GMT
Joan Ryan becomes the 8th 'moderate' to quit Labour tonight:
- Voted for the Iraq War
- Voted 12 times against investigating Iraq
- Claimed the highest expenses out of any MP despite her constituency being just 14 MILES from Westminster
- Abstained on Tory welfare cuts
- Abstained on motion to suspend arm sales to Saudi Arabia
- Chairs Labour Friends of Apartheid
Whatever will Labour do without these principled 'moderate' politicians?
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Feb 20, 2019 7:08:52 GMT
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Feb 20, 2019 7:08:52 GMT
He’s got his Brex-Ray Specs on again. Your rules - believe the company, they know best. You’ve used it often enough in the past. Why not just admit that in your haste to blame everything on Brexit you jumped the gun. I notice you didn’t answer my point but resorted to petty little comments again. But at least you kept it clean. How do you explain the fact that around a thitd of British companies, have or are thinking of moving production, into the EU? Car Manufactures, Aviation, major Banks need frictionless access to the single market, not tariffs and delays Obviously, the vast Eurooean market, is more important than UK. They are acting ratonally and shortening their supply lines. It really is common sense, not project fear and is Brexit related. All the Japanese firms have made the same statement. The Japanese Government warned against Brexit. No doubt the car industry is struggling, but Brexit is undoubtedly a push factor. Nissan Honda and Toyota have all said the same thing. For Honda to not cite Brexit is probably neat politucs, because they dont want to alienate a pecentage of potential buyers? |
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Feb 20, 2019 7:22:36 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Feb 20, 2019 7:22:36 GMT
Isn’t it an amazing coincidence all UK based car manufactures are talking about the changing global market a couple of days before Brexit?
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Post by jb on Feb 20, 2019 9:37:04 GMT
These smear campaigns against the departing M.P.'s of the Labour Party are hypocrisy of the highest order. None of the hard left brigade said nothing when these M.P.'s were in their party and now its muck and bile thrown in their direction following their departure.
It is epitomised by that hate monger Owen Jones. I saw a quote the other day about the hard-left having similar parallels to the far-right. Never a true word spoken!
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