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Post by Deva Chanter on Feb 20, 2019 10:40:51 GMT
These smear campaigns against the departing M.P.'s of the Labour Party are hypocrisy of the highest order. None of the hard left brigade said nothing when these M.P.'s were in their party and now its muck and bile thrown in their direction following their departure. It is epitomised by that hate monger Owen Jones. I saw a quote the other day about the hard-left having similar parallels to the far-right. Never a true word spoken! 'None of the hard left brigade said nothing when these MP's were in their party' - 4 of the 8 of them had already lost no confidence votes in their own constituencies. You are either incredibly ignorant, or you just make shit up. Or both. |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Feb 20, 2019 12:25:08 GMT
What is the point of the Liberal Democrats now? This new centrist group (the centrist position basically being occupied by the LDs up to now) has as many MPs as the LDs now three Tories have joined.
This private enterprise has a structure that has no party members, no need to declare their financial backers, no policies, no internal democracy and no code of conduct for party racism. It’s a neoliberals dream!
Having said that, all of those who have left their parties to join this private enterprise with no accountability should be holding by-elections and are absolute cowards if they don’t. Especially Umunna, he’s the slimiest of them all considering his want for a “people’s vote” of true democracy. Democracy only when it suits his career, evidently.
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Feb 20, 2019 13:06:34 GMT
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Post by jb on Feb 20, 2019 13:06:34 GMT
These smear campaigns against the departing M.P.'s of the Labour Party are hypocrisy of the highest order. None of the hard left brigade said nothing when these M.P.'s were in their party and now its muck and bile thrown in their direction following their departure. It is epitomised by that hate monger Owen Jones. I saw a quote the other day about the hard-left having similar parallels to the far-right. Never a true word spoken! 'None of the hard left brigade said nothing when these MP's were in their party' - 4 of the 8 of them had already lost no confidence votes in their own constituencies. You are either incredibly ignorant, or you just make shit up. Or both. What about the other four? They deserve the smear and hate campaigns as well do they? |
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Post by Derry Blue on Feb 20, 2019 13:20:16 GMT
Your rules - believe the company, they know best. You’ve used it often enough in the past. Why not just admit that in your haste to blame everything on Brexit you jumped the gun. I notice you didn’t answer my point but resorted to petty little comments again. But at least you kept it clean. How do you explain the fact that around a thitd of British companies, have or are thinking of moving production, into the EU? Car Manufactures, Aviation, major Banks need frictionless access to the single market, not tariffs and delays Obviously, the vast Eurooean market, is more important than UK. They are acting ratonally and shortening their supply lines. It really is common sense, not project fear and is Brexit related. All the Japanese firms have made the same statement. The Japanese Government warned against Brexit. No doubt the car industry is struggling, but Brexit is undoubtedly a push factor. Nissan Honda and Toyota have all said the same thing. For Honda to not cite Brexit is probably neat politucs, because they dont want to alienate a pecentage of potential buyers? My goodness, the hypocracy. When other car manufacturers blame Brexit they are to be believed, when Honda don’t they’re lying. Typical Marxism, no truth but your truth. |
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Post by Derry Blue on Feb 20, 2019 13:21:36 GMT
'None of the hard left brigade said nothing when these MP's were in their party' - 4 of the 8 of them had already lost no confidence votes in their own constituencies. You are either incredibly ignorant, or you just make shit up. Or both. What about the other four? They deserve the smear and hate campaigns as well do they? Funded by Israel don’t you know. To quote the alter egos - you couldn’t make it up. |
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Post by Derry Blue on Feb 20, 2019 13:23:14 GMT
What is the point of the Liberal Democrats now? This new centrist group (the centrist position basically being occupied by the LDs up to now) has as many MPs as the LDs now three Tories have joined. This private enterprise has a structure that has no party members, no need to declare their financial backers, no policies, no internal democracy and no code of conduct for party racism. It’s a neoliberals dream! Having said that, all of those who have left their parties to join this private enterprise with no accountability should be holding by-elections and are absolute cowards if they don’t. Especially Umunna, he’s the slimiest of them all considering his want for a “people’s vote” of true democracy. Democracy only when it suits his career, evidently. I agree with you - I’m off for a lie down in a darkened room. |
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Post by Deva Chanter on Feb 20, 2019 14:28:49 GMT
'None of the hard left brigade said nothing when these MP's were in their party' - 4 of the 8 of them had already lost no confidence votes in their own constituencies. You are either incredibly ignorant, or you just make shit up. Or both. What about the other four? They deserve the smear and hate campaigns as well do they? You'll have to point me in the direction of the memo that states pointing out documented facts is now classed as a 'smear and hate campaign'. Let's have a little glance at the records of the 4 who weren't no confidenced by their local parties. Mike Gapes: Voted for the Iraq War. Voted 12 times against investigating the war. Abstained on Tory welfare cuts. Abstained on the motion to suspend arm sales to Saudi Arabia and goes on funded corporate 'holidays' to Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Israel Chuka Umunna: Is a millionaire ex-lawyer who calls working class people "trash" and Labour Party members "dogs". He earns £450 PER HOUR 'advising' a centrist think tank. Campaigned on a manifesto to abolish unpaid internships yet then went and advertised for one in his parliamentary office. Abstained on Tory welfare cuts and his own party's motion to suspend arm sales to Saudi Arabia Ann Coffey: Voted for the Iraq War. Voted 14 times against investigating Iraq. Abstained on Tory welfare cuts. Abstained on her own party's motion to suspend arm sales to Saudi Arabia Luciana Berger: A privately-educated Londoner who was parachuted into the Liverpool Wavertree constituency because she was the Blairite girlfriend of Tony Blair's son. Voted against investigating the Iraq War and abstained on Tory welfare cuts and on her own party's motion to suspend arm sales to Saudi Arabia And just to add a nice little cherry to the layer of reprehensible icing on this particular centrist cake, all four of them are members of the 'People's Vote' campaign because they believe, on the issue of Brexit, "the facts have changed" so people deserve another vote. I'm pretty sure the facts have changed for their constituents, so isn't it odd that they don't want to extend democracy quite so far as to hold by-elections in their seats in which they are depriving thousands of working class people their Labour voice in Parliament? Even Mark Reckless and Douglas Carswell had the courage of their convictions to stand down and seek re-election when they defected to UKIP. That's how few principles these Blairite hypocrites have. The Labour Party is far, far better off for being rid of these absolute charlatans and as a Labour member, I'm absolutely delighted they've finally decided to leave my party. I'm looking forward to seeing each and every single one of them consigned to the dustbin of political history at the next election, where they belong. On a final note, it is absolutely hilariously disingenuous the way this "Independent Group" is using the slogan and hashtag #ChangePolitics. Between them, they've been in Parliament for more than 110 years and they've spent all of it voting for status-quo, business as usual politics. I'm just delighted that they've finally realised that privatisation, war, austerity and supporting clerical fascists in Israel and Saudi Arabia aren't 'Labour values'. Good riddance. |
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Post by Lobster on Feb 20, 2019 16:47:31 GMT
Best post on this thread, Deva Chanter. Deserves to be seen more widely than a small corner of a sixth-tier football club’s unofficial forum!
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Post by Derry Blue on Feb 20, 2019 17:22:35 GMT
What about the other four? They deserve the smear and hate campaigns as well do they? You'll have to point me in the direction of the memo that states pointing out documented facts is now classed as a 'smear and hate campaign'. Let's have a little glance at the records of the 4 who weren't no confidenced by their local parties. Mike Gapes: Voted for the Iraq War. Voted 12 times against investigating the war. Abstained on Tory welfare cuts. Abstained on the motion to suspend arm sales to Saudi Arabia and goes on funded corporate 'holidays' to Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Israel Chuka Umunna: Is a millionaire ex-lawyer who calls working class people "trash" and Labour Party members "dogs". He earns £450 PER HOUR 'advising' a centrist think tank. Campaigned on a manifesto to abolish unpaid internships yet then went and advertised for one in his parliamentary office. Abstained on Tory welfare cuts and his own party's motion to suspend arm sales to Saudi Arabia Ann Coffey: Voted for the Iraq War. Voted 14 times against investigating Iraq. Abstained on Tory welfare cuts. Abstained on her own party's motion to suspend arm sales to Saudi Arabia Luciana Berger: A privately-educated Londoner who was parachuted into the Liverpool Wavertree constituency because she was the Blairite girlfriend of Tony Blair's son. Voted against investigating the Iraq War and abstained on Tory welfare cuts and on her own party's motion to suspend arm sales to Saudi Arabia And just to add a nice little cherry to the layer of reprehensible icing on this particular centrist cake, all four of them are members of the 'People's Vote' campaign because they believe, on the issue of Brexit, "the facts have changed" so people deserve another vote. I'm pretty sure the facts have changed for their constituents, so isn't it odd that they don't want to extend democracy quite so far as to hold by-elections in their seats in which they are depriving thousands of working class people their Labour voice in Parliament? Even Mark Reckless and Douglas Carswell had the courage of their convictions to stand down and seek re-election when they defected to UKIP. That's how few principles these Blairite hypocrites have. The Labour Party is far, far better off for being rid of these absolute charlatans and as a Labour member, I'm absolutely delighted they've finally decided to leave my party. I'm looking forward to seeing each and every single one of them consigned to the dustbin of political history at the next election, where they belong. On a final note, it is absolutely hilariously disingenuous the way this "Independent Group" is using the slogan and hashtag #ChangePolitics. Between them, they've been in Parliament for more than 110 years and they've spent all of it voting for status-quo, business as usual politics. I'm just delighted that they've finally realised that privatisation, war, austerity and supporting clerical fascists in Israel and Saudi Arabia aren't 'Labour values'. Good riddance. Keir Starmer - millionaire ex-lawyer paid £750 an hour by Mishcon de Reya, and a member of the Losers’ Vote campaign. Just thought I’d point that out |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Feb 20, 2019 17:47:35 GMT
Best post on this thread, Deva Chanter. Deserves to be seen more widely than a small corner of a sixth-tier football club’s unofficial forum! Yep spot on. |
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Post by Ian H Block on Feb 20, 2019 18:12:43 GMT
You'll have to point me in the direction of the memo that states pointing out documented facts is now classed as a 'smear and hate campaign'. Let's have a little glance at the records of the 4 who weren't no confidenced by their local parties. Mike Gapes: Voted for the Iraq War. Voted 12 times against investigating the war. Abstained on Tory welfare cuts. Abstained on the motion to suspend arm sales to Saudi Arabia and goes on funded corporate 'holidays' to Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Israel Chuka Umunna: Is a millionaire ex-lawyer who calls working class people "trash" and Labour Party members "dogs". He earns £450 PER HOUR 'advising' a centrist think tank. Campaigned on a manifesto to abolish unpaid internships yet then went and advertised for one in his parliamentary office. Abstained on Tory welfare cuts and his own party's motion to suspend arm sales to Saudi Arabia Ann Coffey: Voted for the Iraq War. Voted 14 times against investigating Iraq. Abstained on Tory welfare cuts. Abstained on her own party's motion to suspend arm sales to Saudi Arabia Luciana Berger: A privately-educated Londoner who was parachuted into the Liverpool Wavertree constituency because she was the Blairite girlfriend of Tony Blair's son. Voted against investigating the Iraq War and abstained on Tory welfare cuts and on her own party's motion to suspend arm sales to Saudi Arabia And just to add a nice little cherry to the layer of reprehensible icing on this particular centrist cake, all four of them are members of the 'People's Vote' campaign because they believe, on the issue of Brexit, "the facts have changed" so people deserve another vote. I'm pretty sure the facts have changed for their constituents, so isn't it odd that they don't want to extend democracy quite so far as to hold by-elections in their seats in which they are depriving thousands of working class people their Labour voice in Parliament? Even Mark Reckless and Douglas Carswell had the courage of their convictions to stand down and seek re-election when they defected to UKIP. That's how few principles these Blairite hypocrites have. The Labour Party is far, far better off for being rid of these absolute charlatans and as a Labour member, I'm absolutely delighted they've finally decided to leave my party. I'm looking forward to seeing each and every single one of them consigned to the dustbin of political history at the next election, where they belong. On a final note, it is absolutely hilariously disingenuous the way this "Independent Group" is using the slogan and hashtag #ChangePolitics. Between them, they've been in Parliament for more than 110 years and they've spent all of it voting for status-quo, business as usual politics. I'm just delighted that they've finally realised that privatisation, war, austerity and supporting clerical fascists in Israel and Saudi Arabia aren't 'Labour values'. Good riddance. Keir Starmer - millionaire ex-lawyer paid £750 an hour by Mishcon de Reya, and a member of the Losers’ Vote campaign. Just thought I’d point that out Just thought i’d have a look at the Register of Members’ Interests and can find no mention of this. Care to provide a link? |
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Post by Derry Blue on Feb 20, 2019 19:23:32 GMT
Keir Starmer - millionaire ex-lawyer paid £750 an hour by Mishcon de Reya, and a member of the Losers’ Vote campaign. Just thought I’d point that out Just thought i’d have a look at the Register of Members’ Interests and can find no mention of this. Care to provide a link? Try looking at the one as at 21 November 2016. |
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Post by Ian H Block on Feb 20, 2019 19:36:31 GMT
Just thought i’d have a look at the Register of Members’ Interests and can find no mention of this. Care to provide a link? Try looking at the one as at 21 November 2016. What, 3 years ago and prior to joining the Shadow Cabinet he did 24 hours of paid consultancy work for a Human Rights law firm? Is that it? |
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Feb 20, 2019 19:41:12 GMT
How do you explain the fact that around a thitd of British companies, have or are thinking of moving production, into the EU? Car Manufactures, Aviation, major Banks need frictionless access to the single market, not tariffs and delays Obviously, the vast Eurooean market, is more important than UK. They are acting ratonally and shortening their supply lines. It really is common sense, not project fear and is Brexit related. All the Japanese firms have made the same statement. The Japanese Government warned against Brexit. No doubt the car industry is struggling, but Brexit is undoubtedly a push factor. Nissan Honda and Toyota have all said the same thing. For Honda to not cite Brexit is probably neat politucs, because they dont want to alienate a pecentage of potential buyers? My goodness, the hypocracy. When other car manufacturers blame Brexit they are to be believed, when Honda don’t they’re lying. Typical Marxism, no truth but your truth. Still not addressing the very serious concerns of large sections of business are we Derry Blue? I think you should speak to Farage, about is son's German passports or Lawson applying for French citizenship. They are the masters of hypocracy. |
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Post by Derry Blue on Feb 20, 2019 20:04:13 GMT
My goodness, the hypocracy. When other car manufacturers blame Brexit they are to be believed, when Honda don’t they’re lying. Typical Marxism, no truth but your truth. Still not addressing the very serious concerns of large sections of business are we Derry Blue? I think you should speak to Farage, about is son's German passports or Lawson applying for French citizenship. They are the masters of hypocracy. At the distraction ploy again - I’m addressing the lie about Honda. Marxist strategy, when caught out in a lie, change the subject. |
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Feb 20, 2019 20:05:56 GMT
Post by Derry Blue on Feb 20, 2019 20:05:56 GMT
Try looking at the one as at 21 November 2016. What, 3 years ago and prior to joining the Shadow Cabinet he did 24 hours of paid consultancy work for a Human Rights law firm? Is that it? I’m not the one who started quoting how much ex-lawyer politicians earn per hour. I was quietly minding my own business until that point was raised. |
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Feb 21, 2019 4:44:35 GMT
Still not addressing the very serious concerns of large sections of business are we Derry Blue? I think you should speak to Farage, about is son's German passports or Lawson applying for French citizenship. They are the masters of hypocracy. At the distraction ploy again - I’m addressing the lie about Honda. Marxist strategy, when caught out in a lie, change the subject. When you say Marxist are you referring to the Theory of surplus value or dialectical materialism or his theory of the Lumpenprolelatariat, which would accurately discribe the majority of Brexit voters Lol |
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Post by jb on Feb 21, 2019 11:05:53 GMT
What about the other four? They deserve the smear and hate campaigns as well do they? You'll have to point me in the direction of the memo that states pointing out documented facts is now classed as a 'smear and hate campaign'. Let's have a little glance at the records of the 4 who weren't no confidenced by their local parties. Mike Gapes: Voted for the Iraq War. Voted 12 times against investigating the war. Abstained on Tory welfare cuts. Abstained on the motion to suspend arm sales to Saudi Arabia and goes on funded corporate 'holidays' to Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Israel Chuka Umunna: Is a millionaire ex-lawyer who calls working class people "trash" and Labour Party members "dogs". He earns £450 PER HOUR 'advising' a centrist think tank. Campaigned on a manifesto to abolish unpaid internships yet then went and advertised for one in his parliamentary office. Abstained on Tory welfare cuts and his own party's motion to suspend arm sales to Saudi Arabia Ann Coffey: Voted for the Iraq War. Voted 14 times against investigating Iraq. Abstained on Tory welfare cuts. Abstained on her own party's motion to suspend arm sales to Saudi Arabia Luciana Berger: A privately-educated Londoner who was parachuted into the Liverpool Wavertree constituency because she was the Blairite girlfriend of Tony Blair's son. Voted against investigating the Iraq War and abstained on Tory welfare cuts and on her own party's motion to suspend arm sales to Saudi Arabia And just to add a nice little cherry to the layer of reprehensible icing on this particular centrist cake, all four of them are members of the 'People's Vote' campaign because they believe, on the issue of Brexit, "the facts have changed" so people deserve another vote. I'm pretty sure the facts have changed for their constituents, so isn't it odd that they don't want to extend democracy quite so far as to hold by-elections in their seats in which they are depriving thousands of working class people their Labour voice in Parliament? Even Mark Reckless and Douglas Carswell had the courage of their convictions to stand down and seek re-election when they defected to UKIP. That's how few principles these Blairite hypocrites have. The Labour Party is far, far better off for being rid of these absolute charlatans and as a Labour member, I'm absolutely delighted they've finally decided to leave my party. I'm looking forward to seeing each and every single one of them consigned to the dustbin of political history at the next election, where they belong. On a final note, it is absolutely hilariously disingenuous the way this "Independent Group" is using the slogan and hashtag #ChangePolitics. Between them, they've been in Parliament for more than 110 years and they've spent all of it voting for status-quo, business as usual politics. I'm just delighted that they've finally realised that privatisation, war, austerity and supporting clerical fascists in Israel and Saudi Arabia aren't 'Labour values'. Good riddance. You've certainly changed your tune Ron. Only last month you said this in one of your constant vitriolic posts: "Out of interest, where does your knowledge of an MP's 'day job' come from? Have you ever been to Parliament or seen what an MP's job actually entails? The vast majority of them spend Monday - Friday in London with parliamentary business starting at 8am and not often finishing before 7pm. Most then have to get the train back to their constituencies (many of which are hundreds of miles away from London), before then spending Friday afternoon and Saturday going to events in their constituencies and holding advice surgeries. And before you say it, yeah I know they're well paid and their travel and housing is paid for but I'd also hazard a guess that the vast majority of them work far, far more hours than the average person, including you. But I guess its much easier to just go through life pretending all politicians are lazy, expense-cheating and career-obsessed 'jokers' isn't it?" |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Feb 21, 2019 12:12:47 GMT
He did say the vast majority to be fair. Not all.
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Post by Derry Blue on Feb 21, 2019 14:01:23 GMT
At the distraction ploy again - I’m addressing the lie about Honda. Marxist strategy, when caught out in a lie, change the subject. When you say Marxist are you referring to the Theory of surplus value or dialectical materialism or his theory of the Lumpenprolelatariat, which would accurately discribe the majority of Brexit voters Lol You continue to distract, I’ll continue to point out the Honda lie. |
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Post by Lobster on Feb 21, 2019 14:15:40 GMT
When you say Marxist are you referring to the Theory of surplus value or dialectical materialism or his theory of the Lumpenprolelatariat, which would accurately discribe the majority of Brexit voters Lol You continue to distract, I’ll continue to point out the Honda lie. To be fair, you’ve dodged pretty much every question anyone has asked throughout this thread. In fact I don’t think I’ve seen you put an argument forward, all you’re doing is rubbishing everyone else’s. |
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Post by Derry Blue on Feb 21, 2019 15:00:30 GMT
You continue to distract, I’ll continue to point out the Honda lie. To be fair, you’ve dodged pretty much every question anyone has asked throughout this thread. In fact I don’t think I’ve seen you put an argument forward, all you’re doing is rubbishing everyone else’s. I don’t come on here ramming my opinions down people’s throats like the Gang of Four. What I do do and will continue to do is point out total rubbish and,like in the case of Honda, total lies. I’ll also point out double standards like the attack on one MP ex-lawyer and what he earned when a shadow front bencher is equally guilty. I’m sorry if my dissenting voice spoils your left wing love in on this thread, but that’s life. You’re surely bored of parroting out the same Marxist propaganda to the same audience of the four (or one) of you. |
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Post by Deva Chanter on Feb 21, 2019 18:11:39 GMT
You'll have to point me in the direction of the memo that states pointing out documented facts is now classed as a 'smear and hate campaign'. Let's have a little glance at the records of the 4 who weren't no confidenced by their local parties. Mike Gapes: Voted for the Iraq War. Voted 12 times against investigating the war. Abstained on Tory welfare cuts. Abstained on the motion to suspend arm sales to Saudi Arabia and goes on funded corporate 'holidays' to Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Israel Chuka Umunna: Is a millionaire ex-lawyer who calls working class people "trash" and Labour Party members "dogs". He earns £450 PER HOUR 'advising' a centrist think tank. Campaigned on a manifesto to abolish unpaid internships yet then went and advertised for one in his parliamentary office. Abstained on Tory welfare cuts and his own party's motion to suspend arm sales to Saudi Arabia Ann Coffey: Voted for the Iraq War. Voted 14 times against investigating Iraq. Abstained on Tory welfare cuts. Abstained on her own party's motion to suspend arm sales to Saudi Arabia Luciana Berger: A privately-educated Londoner who was parachuted into the Liverpool Wavertree constituency because she was the Blairite girlfriend of Tony Blair's son. Voted against investigating the Iraq War and abstained on Tory welfare cuts and on her own party's motion to suspend arm sales to Saudi Arabia And just to add a nice little cherry to the layer of reprehensible icing on this particular centrist cake, all four of them are members of the 'People's Vote' campaign because they believe, on the issue of Brexit, "the facts have changed" so people deserve another vote. I'm pretty sure the facts have changed for their constituents, so isn't it odd that they don't want to extend democracy quite so far as to hold by-elections in their seats in which they are depriving thousands of working class people their Labour voice in Parliament? Even Mark Reckless and Douglas Carswell had the courage of their convictions to stand down and seek re-election when they defected to UKIP. That's how few principles these Blairite hypocrites have. The Labour Party is far, far better off for being rid of these absolute charlatans and as a Labour member, I'm absolutely delighted they've finally decided to leave my party. I'm looking forward to seeing each and every single one of them consigned to the dustbin of political history at the next election, where they belong. On a final note, it is absolutely hilariously disingenuous the way this "Independent Group" is using the slogan and hashtag #ChangePolitics. Between them, they've been in Parliament for more than 110 years and they've spent all of it voting for status-quo, business as usual politics. I'm just delighted that they've finally realised that privatisation, war, austerity and supporting clerical fascists in Israel and Saudi Arabia aren't 'Labour values'. Good riddance. You've certainly changed your tune Ron. Only last month you said this in one of your constant vitriolic posts: "Out of interest, where does your knowledge of an MP's 'day job' come from? Have you ever been to Parliament or seen what an MP's job actually entails? The vast majority of them spend Monday - Friday in London with parliamentary business starting at 8am and not often finishing before 7pm. Most then have to get the train back to their constituencies (many of which are hundreds of miles away from London), before then spending Friday afternoon and Saturday going to events in their constituencies and holding advice surgeries. And before you say it, yeah I know they're well paid and their travel and housing is paid for but I'd also hazard a guess that the vast majority of them work far, far more hours than the average person, including you. But I guess its much easier to just go through life pretending all politicians are lazy, expense-cheating and career-obsessed 'jokers' isn't it?" Who on Earth is Ron? And would you like some help taking that straw man down? |
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Post by Al on Feb 21, 2019 19:36:37 GMT
You've certainly changed your tune Ron. Only last month you said this in one of your constant vitriolic posts: "Out of interest, where does your knowledge of an MP's 'day job' come from? Have you ever been to Parliament or seen what an MP's job actually entails? The vast majority of them spend Monday - Friday in London with parliamentary business starting at 8am and not often finishing before 7pm. Most then have to get the train back to their constituencies (many of which are hundreds of miles away from London), before then spending Friday afternoon and Saturday going to events in their constituencies and holding advice surgeries. And before you say it, yeah I know they're well paid and their travel and housing is paid for but I'd also hazard a guess that the vast majority of them work far, far more hours than the average person, including you. But I guess its much easier to just go through life pretending all politicians are lazy, expense-cheating and career-obsessed 'jokers' isn't it?" Who on Earth is Ron? And would you like some help taking that straw man down? Don't worry he'll be accussing you of being me next. Seems to be his thing |
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Post by Mean Machine on Feb 21, 2019 20:07:42 GMT
When you say Marxist are you referring to the Theory of surplus value or dialectical materialism or his theory of the Lumpenprolelatariat, which would accurately discribe the majority of Brexit voters Lol You continue to distract, I’ll continue to point out the Honda lie. To put the Honda lie to bed once and for all It had nothing to do with brexit they went of their own ACCORD DO you get it, their own ACCORD Ha Ha well I thought it was funny anyway |
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Post by Derry Blue on Feb 21, 2019 20:48:56 GMT
You continue to distract, I’ll continue to point out the Honda lie. To put the Honda lie to bed once and for all It had nothing to do with brexit they went of their own ACCORD DO you get it, their own ACCORD Ha Ha well I thought it was funny anyway Took me a while, but I got it now. |
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Post by jb on Feb 21, 2019 21:03:31 GMT
To be fair, you’ve dodged pretty much every question anyone has asked throughout this thread. In fact I don’t think I’ve seen you put an argument forward, all you’re doing is rubbishing everyone else’s. I don’t come on here ramming my opinions down people’s throats like the Gang of Four. What I do do and will continue to do is point out total rubbish and,like in the case of Honda, total lies. I’ll also point out double standards like the attack on one MP ex-lawyer and what he earned when a shadow front bencher is equally guilty. I’m sorry if my dissenting voice spoils your left wing love in on this thread, but that’s life. You’re surely bored of parroting out the same Marxist propaganda to the same audience of the four (or one) of you. They’ll all be crying in their WhatsApp group as Corbyn has just gone and made a bad week for him even worse by wanting to bring little Miss Begum back home. Still he’s guaranteed himself the Extremist vote with that 60 seconds of madness. Just managed to alienate the British populous by showing a total disrespect to the victims of terror. |
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Feb 21, 2019 21:45:02 GMT
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Post by Deva Chanter on Feb 21, 2019 21:45:02 GMT
I don’t come on here ramming my opinions down people’s throats like the Gang of Four. What I do do and will continue to do is point out total rubbish and,like in the case of Honda, total lies. I’ll also point out double standards like the attack on one MP ex-lawyer and what he earned when a shadow front bencher is equally guilty. I’m sorry if my dissenting voice spoils your left wing love in on this thread, but that’s life. You’re surely bored of parroting out the same Marxist propaganda to the same audience of the four (or one) of you. They’ll all be crying in their WhatsApp group as Corbyn has just gone and made a bad week for him even worse by wanting to bring little Miss Begum back home. Still he’s guaranteed himself the Extremist vote with that 60 seconds of madness. Just managed to alienate the British populous by showing a total disrespect to the victims of terror. Yeah, who needs international law anyway? "The extremist vote" - do you walk around with tin foil on your head? |
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Post by Lobster on Feb 21, 2019 21:53:58 GMT
To put the Honda lie to bed once and for all It had nothing to do with brexit they went of their own ACCORD DO you get it, their own ACCORD Ha Ha well I thought it was funny anyway Took me a while, but I got it now. In any case, the decision may lead to CIVIC unrest. |
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Feb 21, 2019 22:18:23 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Feb 21, 2019 22:18:23 GMT
Corbyn was stating facts.
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