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Nov 26, 2019 17:51:53 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 26, 2019 17:51:53 GMT
I have never tried to convert any one to my beliefs. But in 65 pages you two feature prominently on every single page trying to convert everyone round to your way of thinking. Yes we get it you love Labour. But give people their right to an opinion they may even be right They’ll be horribly, horribly wrong but fair enough, they should have the right to be.
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Nov 26, 2019 17:58:23 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2019 17:58:23 GMT
Wow you are so clever. so every one who disagrees with you is wrong. You would do well to read back through your thousands of posts on both this and the football page. The nastiness shines through.
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Nov 26, 2019 17:58:28 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 26, 2019 17:58:28 GMT
Almost total DevaChat silence on that issue until you mentioned it! I just wish someone would show me all this AS, so I didn’t think it was BS. The absolute worst thing about all this trivialisation and weaponisation of anti-Semitism is that the term “anti-Semitism” has lost all its meaning which, I’m sure we all agree, is terrible for genuine sufferers of this scourge.
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Nov 26, 2019 18:06:43 GMT
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Nov 26, 2019 18:06:43 GMT
in 65 pages you two feature prominently on every single page trying to convert everyone round to your way of thinking If anything they've only served to make the Brexit Party look worth a vote!
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Nov 26, 2019 18:08:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2019 18:08:18 GMT
Like the schoolboy on the underground. It's a bigger than you think. I don't know what the Jews have done to deserve it. but something needs to be done to stop it
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Nov 26, 2019 18:09:27 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 26, 2019 18:09:27 GMT
Like the schoolboy on the underground. It's a bigger than you think. I don't know what the Jews have done to deserve it. but something needs to be done to stop it You would have to ask the extreme right (and of course the far right) what they have done to deserve this weaponisation of the phrase. It’s awful. Do they realise what they’ve done? Any genuine victim of AS could easily be confronted with “boy who cried wolf” reactions because of this.
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Nov 26, 2019 18:18:37 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 26, 2019 18:18:37 GMT
The Muslim Council of Britain have today warned against voting Conservative, given the many incidences of Islamophobia engulfing the Tory party.
This story should be given equal prominence in the media as the allegations against Labour on AS (as should the proven cases of AS in the Conservative party this week).
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Nov 26, 2019 18:42:42 GMT
Post by Lobster on Nov 26, 2019 18:42:42 GMT
The Muslim Council of Britain have today warned against voting Conservative, given the many incidences of Islamophobia engulfing the Tory party. This story should be given equal prominence in the media as the allegations against Labour on AS (as should the proven cases of AS in the Conservative party this week). To be fair I think it's largely bollocks in the same way as the anti-Semitism claims. It's mostly people just being a bit too precious about their belief system.
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Nov 26, 2019 19:48:50 GMT
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Post by jb on Nov 26, 2019 19:48:50 GMT
Wow you are so clever. so every one who disagrees with you is wrong. You would do well to read back through your thousands of posts on both this and the football page. The nastiness shines through. Nail on head.
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Nov 26, 2019 20:21:19 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 26, 2019 20:21:19 GMT
Wow you are so clever. so every one who disagrees with you is wrong. Where did I say that?
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Nov 26, 2019 20:33:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2019 20:33:35 GMT
Your words. Yes they have the right but they are horribly horribly wrong. Couldn't say you were sitting on the fence Could we
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Nov 26, 2019 21:12:55 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 26, 2019 21:12:55 GMT
Your words. Yes they have the right but they are horribly horribly wrong. Couldn't say you were sitting on the fence Could we I was referring to your point of the public re-electing the same government that has caused the decade of suffering I mentioned in the earlier post.
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Nov 26, 2019 21:30:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2019 21:30:53 GMT
That is not what you quoted. I said give people the right to an opinion they may even be right and you replied they'll be horribly horribly wrong. they should have the right to be. Have you been drinking?
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Nov 27, 2019 7:30:06 GMT
Post by eyeswideopen on Nov 27, 2019 7:30:06 GMT
in reply to eyeswideopen.i have in my life voted for labour conservative liberal and brexit party.i hated margeret thatcher so could never vote for her .same for harold wilson .i had high hopes for tony blair but soon regretted voting for him .voted for smith shame we lost him a good honest man .john major enough said about him .what you don't understand about me is whoever is our next prime minister i have him in my lounge on my tv for 5 years .so the likeability factor has to be there .corbyn does not fit that criteria for me .maybe for you because thats called choice.oh I'm niether rich racist or have a good job So if your surgeon didnt have the likeability factor would you turn down lifesaving treatment? No of course you wouldnt. I respect everyones right to vote for who they goddamn please, but please do it for the right reason. Think about a parties policies and what effect they will have on society,not whether or not you like the person. People fought for centuries for us to have a democracy, its yours (and mine) rights to elect a government that is going to serve the country, thats the important word here. If you have looked at a parties manifesto and are happy to vote for that party and they get elected then thats democracy. It sits fine with me. What doesn't sit fine with me are continuous failures by governments to hit targets on healthcare, Policing numbers, new house builds, Child poverty and then people saying they wont exercise their right to change that because they wont elect someone who doesnt have a likeability factor.
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Nov 27, 2019 8:27:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 8:27:28 GMT
I am no longer a floating voter. I watched the interview with corbyn and my minds made up. A complete train wreck. Pity the monster loony party are not around even they would pick up votes after that
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Nov 27, 2019 8:41:08 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 27, 2019 8:41:08 GMT
I am no longer a floating voter. I watched the interview with corbyn and my minds made up. A complete train wreck. Pity the monster loony party are not around even they would pick up votes after that The interview was a train wreck, agreed, because of Andrew Neil’s obsession with listening to the sound of his own voice. I saw the first two minutes and it was just him talking and interrupting so switched off. If people can’t see that the antisemitism smears against Labour and Corbyn were rolled out the day before he goes on Andrew Neil’s show, precisely to set the agenda of the whole interview, then there really is no helping them. Out of interest, which Party do you propose to vote for now and what policies of theirs appeal to you most?
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Nov 27, 2019 8:43:42 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 27, 2019 8:43:42 GMT
It’s been unveiled today that top Tories have already held talks with US big pharma for a post-Brexit trade deal to sell the NHS to them. We cannot let this happen.
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Post by Deva Chanter on Nov 27, 2019 8:54:51 GMT
I am no longer a floating voter. I watched the interview with corbyn and my minds made up. A complete train wreck. Pity the monster loony party are not around even they would pick up votes after that I'm not sure why you are pretending that Labour was an option for you in the first place given on this very thread you've been attacking socialism and supporting Nigel Farage.
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Nov 27, 2019 9:05:36 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 9:05:36 GMT
I have voted Labour many times in my life. You would be correct if you said corbyn was never an option. But for sb to say it was a train wreck yet he switched off after two minutes, should have watched it all. He never convinced on any of his answers.
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Nov 27, 2019 10:19:43 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 27, 2019 10:19:43 GMT
I have voted Labour many times in my life. You would be correct if you said corbyn was never an option. But for sb to say it was a train wreck yet he switched off after two minutes, should have watched it all. He never convinced on any of his answers. Was he even allowed to give any answers? All I watched I could barely hear him over Neil’s harrumphing.
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Nov 27, 2019 10:20:22 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 27, 2019 10:20:22 GMT
Oh. My. God. Jeremy Corbyn is holding a press conference revealing 400+ pages of unredacted documents exposing the NHS is on the table in US trade talks.
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Nov 27, 2019 11:40:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 11:40:19 GMT
Are they published any where
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Nov 27, 2019 12:09:32 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 27, 2019 12:09:32 GMT
The Tories redacted the whole thing as we saw in the televised debate last week. Now JC has exposed them and they will be published in full.
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Nov 27, 2019 12:26:41 GMT
Post by iandychesterfc on Nov 27, 2019 12:26:41 GMT
They are. Great piece of smoke-screening by Corbyn. This is actually impressive as the headline is out there scaremongering away whilst the detail says nothing of the sort.
Classic.
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Nov 27, 2019 12:26:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 12:26:46 GMT
are they published any where does any body know
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Nov 27, 2019 12:30:55 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 27, 2019 12:30:55 GMT
Labour have just exposed one of the biggest scandals this country has ever seen, and the media are trying to ask questions about anything else they possibly can!
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Nov 27, 2019 12:36:11 GMT
Post by jb on Nov 27, 2019 12:36:11 GMT
I have had my Vote Labour leaflet and all it does is just slate the Conservatives and states nothing about what the M.P. has done for the area or proposes to do for the area if re-elected.
It just confirms my perception that British politics has lost it's way and has become a race to the bottom.
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Nov 27, 2019 12:36:50 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 12:36:50 GMT
Where can I read these. Is it just you who have a copy.
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Nov 27, 2019 12:38:05 GMT
Post by iandychesterfc on Nov 27, 2019 12:38:05 GMT
Labour have just exposed one of the biggest scandals this country has ever seen, and the media are trying to ask questions about anything else they possibly can! Because nowhere in the 471 pages does it mention anything about the NHS being for sale etc. We've had this discussion about actual reality before. reality is not just what dear leader says it is.
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Nov 27, 2019 12:40:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 12:40:10 GMT
Wonder why it's not been published sychden blue obviously has a copy
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