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Post by jb on Nov 27, 2019 17:48:58 GMT
No, an oxymoron is a working class Tory voter. I know you boys must have had a "backed the wrong horse" moment after last night's humiliation but you're being a bit too defensive today. Careful now SWB, say anything bad about the far-left’s deity and you’ll get childish insults like “helmet” etc levelled at you. The insults are endemic of the far-right and the far-left since Brexit though so no surprise to see it from the usual suspects. |
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Nov 27, 2019 17:49:07 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 27, 2019 17:49:07 GMT
No, an oxymoron is a working class Tory voter. I know you boys must have had a "backed the wrong horse" moment after last night's humiliation but you're being a bit too defensive today. At least he had the courage to go on, especially after Nicola Sturgeon got mauled the previous night. Absolutely no surprise to anyone that Johnson is not now going to be interviewed. How complicit the BBC is with such a shocking state of affairs we‘ll probably never know. |
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Nov 27, 2019 17:53:25 GMT
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Post by Al on Nov 27, 2019 17:53:25 GMT
Real concerns about the cost of and availability of medication for nhs hospitals as the result of these discussions with the US and you lot are squabbling about nothing as per usual.
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Nov 27, 2019 18:18:35 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 27, 2019 18:18:35 GMT
Boris Johnson becomes the first prospective PM ever to break a manifesto pledge before it was even written.
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Nov 27, 2019 21:29:58 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 27, 2019 21:29:58 GMT
Almost certain that Corbyn knew about these documents when he pulled the redacted stuff out during the debate last week. He’s been playing chess and is showing himself to be a master tactician.
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Nov 27, 2019 23:03:09 GMT
Post by Al on Nov 27, 2019 23:03:09 GMT
Like I said earlier, I hope he's also got a copy of the Russian report ready to go if they carry on with the anti semitism smear...
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Nov 28, 2019 6:10:18 GMT
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Nov 28, 2019 6:10:18 GMT
According to the latest opinion polls the gap between Labour and the Tories, is down to 7 points. There needs to be loads of tactical voting and the young need to get out to vote, in droves. Labour need to keep hammering home the message that the NHS is directly threatened by any Johnson deal, with the Trump's USA and people will be paying US prices for NHS drugs (its our £350 million for the NHS per week, written on the side of the bus), that the odious Cummings used during the referendum. Again, that depends which poll you believe! What does seem to be happening though, in the polls I've seen at least, is a real lack of support for the Lib Dems. It looks as though they could be nowhere at the end of this. |
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Nov 28, 2019 6:54:48 GMT
Post by Lobster on Nov 28, 2019 6:54:48 GMT
According to the latest opinion polls the gap between Labour and the Tories, is down to 7 points. There needs to be loads of tactical voting and the young need to get out to vote, in droves. Labour need to keep hammering home the message that the NHS is directly threatened by any Johnson deal, with the Trump's USA and people will be paying US prices for NHS drugs (its our £350 million for the NHS per week, written on the side of the bus), that the odious Cummings used during the referendum. Again, that depends which poll you believe! What does seem to be happening though, in the polls I've seen at least, is a real lack of support for the Lib Dems. It looks as though they could be nowhere at the end of this. Not surprised. For all people say that the main two parties are unpopular, the centre has not taken advantage at all. Change UK was/is a total flop and I think there's a whole generation that will never trust the Lib Dems again. They're not even relevant as a protest vote in my eyes. |
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Nov 28, 2019 7:07:22 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 28, 2019 7:07:22 GMT
The so-called Liberal Democrats are the real extremist party with a crazed psychopath in charge. Glad they’re not polling well as it means the people can see them for what they are.
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Nov 28, 2019 7:59:58 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 28, 2019 7:59:58 GMT
BBC producers confirming to other Party leaders this week that Johnson had agreed to also face the Andrew Neil roasting when he hadn’t (and still hasn’t agreed to - chickening out of yet another televised interview).
By the way, if the chairman of the Spectator (Neil) really can’t get an interview with the ex-editor of the Spectator (Johnson), he could always ask the current deputy editor to have a word with her husband (Cummings). Barclay brothers permitting, of course.
BBC News yesterday leading with Johnson telling us all how he spreads jam on scones, the day the NHS sell-off scandal broke. Corbyn got the brutal Neil treatment, Johnson got PR.
The political editor of the BBC becoming the official mouthpiece on social media for Dominic Cummings, the unelected authoritarian now running the Tories.
The same political editor of the BBC re-tweeting a Piers Morgan calling
Corbyn a “chump” and calling on journalists to “pummel him on anti-Semitism”. Then she hastily deleted the tweet.
All this during purdah! It was often believed that the whole “BBC bias” was a bit of a conspiracy theory but it is safe to say now, after all of the above, and more, your license fee is essentially a donation to the Conservative Party.
And this is why I refuse to pay it.
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Nov 28, 2019 8:03:29 GMT
Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 8:03:29 GMT
BBC producers confirming to other Party leaders this week that Johnson had agreed to also face the Andrew Neil roasting when he hadn’t (and still hasn’t agreed to - chickening out of yet another televised interview). By the way, if the chairman of the Spectator (Neil) really can’t get an interview with the ex-editor of the Spectator (Johnson), he could always ask the current deputy editor to have a word with her husband (Cummings). Barclay brothers permitting, of course. BBC News yesterday leading with Johnson telling us all how he spreads jam on scones, the day the NHS sell-off scandal broke. Corbyn got the brutal Neil treatment, Johnson got PR. The political editor of the BBC becoming the official mouthpiece on social media for Dominic Cummings, the unelected authoritarian now running the Tories. The same political editor of the BBC re-tweeting a Piers Morgan calling Corbyn a “chump” and calling on journalists to “pummel him on anti-Semitism”. Then she hastily deleted the tweet. All this during purdah! It was often believed that the whole “BBC bias” was a bit of a conspiracy theory but it is safe to say now, after all of the above, and more, your license fee is essentially a donation to the Conservative Party. And this is why I refuse to pay it. Do you cut and paste all of your Devachat posts from the internet ? or do you occasionally have an original thought ? |
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Nov 28, 2019 8:05:33 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 28, 2019 8:05:33 GMT
No I didn’t, and yes I do.
Oh, and the aforementioned political editor of the BBC has also retweeted a blog by Cummings that was full of anti-immigration and anti-Semitic rhetoric.
Stop paying your license fee. Stop funding hate.
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Post by Lobster on Nov 28, 2019 8:47:05 GMT
Leaders debate on climate change on Channel 4 tonight. The only one I plan to watch. Wishful thinking maybe, but hopefully we'll get a bit of a break from 'the B word' tonight!
Climate change is the single most important issue facing the world, and Johnson and Farage are unlikely to bother turning up. Even if I knew nothing about the candidates, that would at least tell me who not to vote for.
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Nov 28, 2019 10:47:38 GMT
Post by jb on Nov 28, 2019 10:47:38 GMT
No I didn’t, and yes I do. Oh, and the aforementioned political editor of the BBC has also retweeted a blog by Cummings that was full of anti-immigration and anti-Semitic rhetoric.
Stop paying your license fee. Stop funding hate. So now you are encouraging people to commit a criminal offence? The mind boggles, it really does! |
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Nov 28, 2019 11:15:56 GMT
Post by Lobster on Nov 28, 2019 11:15:56 GMT
No I didn’t, and yes I do. Oh, and the aforementioned political editor of the BBC has also retweeted a blog by Cummings that was full of anti-immigration and anti-Semitic rhetoric.
Stop paying your license fee. Stop funding hate. So now you are encouraging people to commit a criminal offence? The mind boggles, it really does! Not necessarily. You could just not have a TV! |
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Nov 28, 2019 12:09:58 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 28, 2019 12:09:58 GMT
No I didn’t, and yes I do. Oh, and the aforementioned political editor of the BBC has also retweeted a blog by Cummings that was full of anti-immigration and anti-Semitic rhetoric.
Stop paying your license fee. Stop funding hate. So now you are encouraging people to commit a criminal offence? The mind boggles, it really does! Logic fail. Bigly. |
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Nov 28, 2019 12:10:01 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 28, 2019 12:10:01 GMT
So now you are encouraging people to commit a criminal offence? The mind boggles, it really does! Not necessarily. You could just not have a TV! Not necessarily that either. You only require a license to watch live TV and/or BBC iPlayer stuff. I’m all about on demand these days. The license fee is very outdated in this age of streaming and on demand access. |
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Nov 28, 2019 12:28:18 GMT
Post by jb on Nov 28, 2019 12:28:18 GMT
So now you are encouraging people to commit a criminal offence? The mind boggles, it really does! Logic fail. Bigly. So how is it a "logic fail"? With these phrases that you use, you sound like you are trying to be some child out of an American teen drama. |
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Nov 28, 2019 12:31:50 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 28, 2019 12:31:50 GMT
I checked. I don’t need one. |
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Nov 28, 2019 12:46:34 GMT
Post by Lobster on Nov 28, 2019 12:46:34 GMT
Not necessarily. You could just not have a TV! Not necessarily that either. You only require a license to watch live TV and/or BBC iPlayer stuff. I’m all about on demand these days. The license fee is very outdated in this age of streaming and on demand access. It does feel like it's on borrowed time. There have always been all sorts of grey areas, and that's only increased since on-demand. For example, what if you go round to someone's house who you know doesn't have a licence, plug your phone in and watch live TV on it? If you didn't like your host, you could phone up and report that live TV is being watched in a household with no licence. In fact someone could do that to you now that you've outed yourself as a non-payer! |
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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 28, 2019 14:41:28 GMT
Enough already, don’t be a douche, Bobby Wolf. |
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Nov 28, 2019 16:24:31 GMT
Post by jedthehumanoid on Nov 28, 2019 16:24:31 GMT
The graphics YouGov (Tory mouthpiece blah, blah, I know) have produced alongside their MRP poll are quite interesting - shows the constituencies they have predicted to change hands and the predicted swing. A whole lot have really small majorities predicted and some seem pretty unlikely, such as Ynys Mon turning blue. Could all get very tight in the next couple of weeks.
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Post by jb on Nov 28, 2019 17:59:53 GMT
Enough already, don’t be a douche, Bobby Wolf. Like it. You deserve to be taken to the Prom by Jeremy after that post Mary-Kate. |
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Post by Lobster on Nov 29, 2019 6:50:36 GMT
It's bad enough that Johnson (along with Farage) didn't bother to turn up to the climate debate last night, but for his party to now accuse Channel 4 of breaking impartiality rules by pointing this out shows what a bunch of spoilt, lazy, arrogant bullies they are.
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Nov 29, 2019 7:27:00 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 29, 2019 7:27:00 GMT
There was a time when you couldn't get politicians to shut up about their views. Now the Tories are terrified we might work out what they really intend to do and spend all their time devising ways of avoiding scrutiny.
The country needs to wake up and draw the obvious conclusion.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 29, 2019 10:04:41 GMT
Just been reading about a failing state where the leader tried to shut down Parliament and refuses to face the press and even wants to shut down TV stations that don’t agree with him and sorry that’s us.
Not Venezuela, not Iran, but the U.K....
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Nov 29, 2019 11:13:27 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 29, 2019 11:13:27 GMT
Dear god, Boris Johnson’s campaign is absolutely imploding.
- Chickens out of Andrew Neil interview
- Refuses to attend Climate debate
- Comments revealed that he called working class people - his core Brexit support - lazy drunken criminals
Poll numbers will be interesting.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Nov 30, 2019 9:22:42 GMT
Yesterday's headline, in the Express. 'Labour Leftie explains terrifying Momentum groundgame that could see Tory poll lead disappear. Oh dear! The readership of the Mail and Express will be wetting their incontinence pants. The polls must be getting tighter.
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Post by Lobster on Nov 30, 2019 17:48:03 GMT
If I remember rightly, there was a bit of a spate of terrorist attacks in the run-up to the last election. Hope we don't see a repeat of that. Dreadful news yesterday in London, and it plays into the hands of the populist right. Not surprised the opportunist Johnson is straight onto it banging on about being tougher on crime etc.
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Nov 30, 2019 19:54:56 GMT
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Post by jb on Nov 30, 2019 19:54:56 GMT
If I remember rightly, there was a bit of a spate of terrorist attacks in the run-up to the last election. Hope we don't see a repeat of that. Dreadful news yesterday in London, and it plays into the hands of the populist right. Not surprised the opportunist Johnson is straight onto it banging on about being tougher on crime etc. And now Labour and Conservatives are using this terrible event as a political point scoring exercise with Patel and Cooper arguing over the release of the scumbag who did this. Have some respect for the families of the victims you classless lot of politicians. |
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