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Dec 3, 2019 19:42:04 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Dec 3, 2019 19:42:04 GMT
The Tory bastards are up to their dirty tricks again after buying up a website address in the name of a Labour candidate – to tell voters to “stop Jeremy Corbyn.”
For a Party that have been in power for a decade shouldn’t their campaign be about all the wonderful things they’ve presided over for this country in that time, asking us to vote for more of it? Not this shite of lies, smears and underhand tactics online.
They’ve got nothing. Get rid.
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Dec 3, 2019 19:57:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 19:57:56 GMT
Do you have a life outside of trawling the Internet to find bile and hate and then publish on here. I think you may have bee radicalised
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Dec 3, 2019 20:01:05 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Dec 3, 2019 20:01:05 GMT
Do you have a life outside of trawling the Internet to find bile and hate and then publish on here. I think you may have bee radicalised The above news wasn’t difficult to find. Interesting you have not a bad word to say about yet another vile stunt of theirs. What is a radicalised bee anyway? Like a jihadi wasp?
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Dec 3, 2019 20:05:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 20:05:45 GMT
? You got me there completely baffled. Are you buzzing.
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Dec 3, 2019 20:08:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 20:08:58 GMT
Oh I get you now I missed a letter out. My large thumbs and I only have one eye.
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Dec 3, 2019 20:09:03 GMT
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Post by Al on Dec 3, 2019 20:09:03 GMT
Firstly. 😂😂😂😂😂 Jihadi Wasp would be terrifying. Wasps are frigging frightening enough on their own without being radicalised.😂😂😂😂😂
Secondly, all MPs lie, or rather they promise the earth until they get into power and realise it's impossible to do everything they set out in their manifesto within a 5yr time period. For me I dont really care a great deal on the massive pledges of free this and free that, just make peoples lives a little less shit than they are at present. If a government can do that, give young school leavers hope and career prospects, then it's a win for me.
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Post by Deva Chanter on Dec 3, 2019 21:07:53 GMT
They all promise but none keep them. The one thing they all do is increase their own salaries. I do apologise for having to keep pulling you up on being consistently factually incorrect, but MP's do not set their own salaries. They are set by an independent body which means it is not possible for politicians to "increase their own salaries".
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Dec 3, 2019 21:12:35 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Dec 3, 2019 21:12:35 GMT
They all promise but none keep them. The one thing they all do is increase their own salaries. I do apologise for having to keep pulling you up on being consistently factually incorrect, but MP's do not set their own salaries. They are set be an independent body which means it is not possible for politicians to "increase their own salaries". He’s shown his true political colours throughout this thread so it’s no surprise he’s making stuff up. If he can afford to live under Tory rule for another five years perhaps he should offer to become one of the four backers Stuart Murphy is looking for.
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Dec 3, 2019 21:27:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 21:27:54 GMT
OK which one of you is Jeremy corbyn. So you're guessing you know my political following one thing I don't need to guess your's. I am pretty sure if I make a mistake one of the gang will pick me up on it. Do they have no option to refuse pay rises or do they just vote to accept them. I have told you before I have voted for every party in my time. I don't blindly follow any one party just because somebody tells me to. Sorry I don't like comrade jezzer so I can not vote for his party and nobody will change that this time.
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Dec 3, 2019 21:32:47 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Dec 3, 2019 21:32:47 GMT
OK which one of you is Jeremy corbyn. So you're guessing you know my political following one thing I don't need to guess your's. I am pretty sure if I make a mistake one of the gang will pick me up on it. Do they have no option to refuse pay rises or do they just vote to accept them. I have told you before I have voted for every party in my time. I don't blindly follow any one party just because somebody tells me to. Sorry I don't like comrade jezzer so I can not vote for his party and nobody will change that this time. Which of Labour’s policies gets you so upset?
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Dec 3, 2019 21:38:51 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Dec 3, 2019 21:38:51 GMT
Remember that container stopped in Essex with Vietnamese bodies in the back a few weeks ago? This government is charging the families of the dead £2,000 to repatriate the bodies. Let that sink in.
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Dec 3, 2019 21:44:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 21:44:06 GMT
You yes I think you. You're like a bird of prey waiting to pounce on anybody who
disagrees with you. You don't debate you dictate. Anybody can have a good life money doesn't come in to it. I don't think I've ever envied people who have more than me that is just the way of the world
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Post by Deva Chanter on Dec 3, 2019 21:45:54 GMT
OK which one of you is Jeremy corbyn. So you're guessing you know my political following one thing I don't need to guess your's. I am pretty sure if I make a mistake one of the gang will pick me up on it. Do they have no option to refuse pay rises or do they just vote to accept them. I have told you before I have voted for every party in my time. I don't blindly follow any one party just because somebody tells me to. Sorry I don't like comrade jezzer so I can not vote for his party and nobody will change that this time. Why are you getting offended about being picked up on being factually incorrect? Or are you happy to live your life blissfully spouting fake news? MP's don't vote on their salaries either - as I've explained, they're set by IPSA, an independent body whose recommendations are automatically implemented. For what it's worth, there are a number of Labour candidates standing in this election, such as Nadia Whittome in Nottingham East and Jane Aitchison in Pudsey, who have committed to either only taking a 'workers wage' or 50% of the salary. I'd hazard a guess that not a single Tory, Brexit Party or Liberal Democrat candidate has made such a commitment.
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Dec 3, 2019 21:49:02 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Dec 3, 2019 21:49:02 GMT
You yes I think you. You're like a bird of prey waiting to pounce on anybody who disagrees with you. You don't debate you dictate. Anybody can have a good life money doesn't come in to it. I don't think I've ever envied people who have more than me that is just the way of the world You think other posters envy you now?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 21:50:19 GMT
Who has told you this about the two thousand pounds. I know hey paid between 20 and 30 k each to come here uninvited. Perhaps the Irish lads should pay the two thousand. You can't hang everything on this government. Hang on you can and you do.
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Dec 3, 2019 21:53:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 21:53:12 GMT
2015 pay rise of 7k 65 mps said they would give it to charity in the end only 25 did 10 Labour 11 cons and four others
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Dec 3, 2019 21:57:02 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 21:57:02 GMT
Why would any body envy me. 79 years old got one eye prostate cancer and only get the state pension.
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Dec 3, 2019 21:59:16 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Dec 3, 2019 21:59:16 GMT
2015 pay rise of 7k 65 mps said they would give it to charity in the end only 25 did 10 Labour 11 cons and four others Do you have a source for this?
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Dec 3, 2019 22:03:08 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Dec 3, 2019 22:03:08 GMT
Why would any body envy me. 79 years old got one eye prostate cancer and only get the state pension. So why would you vote against your own interests? I’ll ask again, which Labour policy has you so angry? I’m not dictating at all, you’re making either factually incorrect statements that I’m picking you up on, or personal opinions that I’m asking you to back up with reasoning. That’s debating.
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Dec 3, 2019 22:04:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 22:04:18 GMT
Google it same place you get you info from. Don't ask me to cut and paste never got th hang of that.
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Dec 3, 2019 22:05:38 GMT
Post by Lobster on Dec 3, 2019 22:05:38 GMT
Thought I'd do a bit of independent fact checking on Farage's claim this morning that China is responsible for more greenhouse gas emissions than "the United States, the whole of Europe and Japan combined". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_greenhouse_gas_emissionsYou can see from the link above that China is responsible for 27.51% of global emissions. The US (14.75%), the European Union (9.33%) and Japan (2.99%) total 27.07%, so he's marginally correct. Saying that, he seems to have confused the EU with "the whole of Europe". For example, we can see from that list that Ukraine (in Europe but not the EU) is responsible for 0.83%, so that alone tips the total above China's. So technically, he's wrong already, but let's give him the benefit of the doubt. I mean, he's only been campaigning against the EU for 30 years, so you can forgive him for not fully understanding what it is. More importantly, he’s overlooking the crucial fact that generally speaking, countries with large populations should be expected to be larger producers of greenhouse gases, shouldn’t they? After all, it is people that create them. So isn’t it fairer to look at what countries are producing in relation to their population? If we do that, we can see that China has a population of over 1.4 billion. That dwarfs the population of the EU (513m), the US (327m) and Japan (126m), which even combined doesn’t reach a billion. So China’s population is about 50% greater than the total of the region Farage compares it to, yet he’s criticising it for contributing a greater portion of the world’s emissions by a piffling 0.44%. That’s before we get on to the argument that a big contributor to greenhouse gas emission is industry and manufacture. Is China just manufacturing goods for itself? I’d hazard a guess it’s manufacturing a lot of them for, let’s say, the US, the EU and Japan. You can’t ship manufacturing jobs off to China to take advantage of cheap labour, and then point out that China’s greenhouse gas emissions are too high! Besides, who cares what China is doing? If Farage is truly proud to be British and wants the country to be seen as some kind of shining example for the rest of the world to follow, shouldn’t he be keen for us to take a global lead on climate change rather than resorting to Homer Simpson’s “can’t someone else do it?” policy. No, he’d rather argue that we’re “less than 2% of the problem”. Well, Nigel, we’re less than 1% of the population, so that means we’re twice the problem we should be And lastly, why are people like Farage, who are obsessed with immigration, so dismissive about climate change? Does he have any idea what’s predicted to happen over the next 30 years in countries like Bangladesh, where 25 million people are expected to lose their homes to rising sea levels? Where does he think they’re going to go? Who will rehouse them? Because with just 0.36% of the world’s emissions to take responsibility for, I’m not sure it should be Bangladesh!
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Dec 3, 2019 22:10:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 22:10:28 GMT
So 33%of rail fairs how do we do that not nationalised yet. Free broadband don't own it yet. Repay womens pension where from borrow it. abolish students fees. And on it goes. Do you spend money you don't have. I never have. These are just some of the policies I don't like
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Dec 3, 2019 22:13:03 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Dec 3, 2019 22:13:03 GMT
So 33%of rail fairs how do we do that not nationalised yet. Free broadband don't own it yet. Repay womens pension where from borrow it. abolish students fees. And on it goes. Do you spend money you don't have. I never have. These are just some of the policies I don't like Have you read the manifesto? It’s fully costed, so it’ll tell you where the money will come from. Also why don’t you like the idea of women being cheated out of their pensions being recompensed, why don’t you like the idea of accessing free superfast broadband? If you’d rather pay for a lesser product than have a better product for free, why? By the way, our rail is nationalised - the Tories sold it off to the governments of Netherlands, France and China whose taxpayers reap the benefits of our rocketing rail fares.
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Dec 3, 2019 22:23:23 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 22:23:23 GMT
Corbyn stated on TV interview that they would borrow to pay women's pensions many billions of pounds. The page about the mps who said they would give up their rise is new statesman 2018 all names are on the list.
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Post by Ian H Block on Dec 3, 2019 22:30:04 GMT
Corbyn stated on TV interview that they would borrow to pay women's pensions many billions of pounds. The page about the mps who said they would give up their rise is new statesman 2018 all names are on the list. Tories have borrowed more in 9 years than the combined total of every Labour Government in history and all we have to show for it are massive tax breaks for the already obscenely wealthy.
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Dec 3, 2019 22:31:55 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Dec 3, 2019 22:31:55 GMT
Corbyn stated on TV interview that they would borrow to pay women's pensions many billions of pounds. The page about the mps who said they would give up their rise is new statesman 2018 all names are on the list. It needs to be done. It’s a wrong that needs to be made right. It’ll still be a tiny fraction of the amount borrowed by the current government of the last decade. Where’s their money gone? Sure as hell hasn’t gone into any public services.
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Dec 3, 2019 22:32:36 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Dec 3, 2019 22:32:36 GMT
Corbyn stated on TV interview that they would borrow to pay women's pensions many billions of pounds. The page about the mps who said they would give up their rise is new statesman 2018 all names are on the list. Tories have borrowed more in 9 years than the combined total of every Labour Government in history and all we have to show for it are massive tax breaks for the already obscenely wealthy. Labour governments borrow less and pay back more.
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Dec 3, 2019 23:08:39 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 23:08:39 GMT
Time for bed enjoyed your company
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Post by jb on Dec 3, 2019 23:10:35 GMT
Tories have borrowed more in 9 years than the combined total of every Labour Government in history and all we have to show for it are massive tax breaks for the already obscenely wealthy. Labour governments borrow less and pay back more. Funny that because Tony Blair by his own volition said something totally to the contrary. Keep spouting your absolute nonsense it’s a great laugh.
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Dec 4, 2019 6:17:13 GMT
Tories have borrowed more in 9 years than the combined total of every Labour Government in history and all we have to show for it are massive tax breaks for the already obscenely wealthy. Labour governments borrow less and pay back more. SB, I know the Tories don't have a great history of financial management but don't make yourself look even more daft by pretending Labour have ever done any better. Also, I don't know why you guys seem to have beef with anybody who appears to have a penny more than you.
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