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Dec 11, 2019 17:00:09 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Dec 11, 2019 17:00:09 GMT
There are some very bad eggs on both sides on social media. Probably fair to say Labour supporters are a bit louder about who they're going to vote for than Tories, and I suppose to some that might come across as preachy and condescending.
I've never really understood the concept of not telling others who you're voting for though. If you're not proud of who you voted for and can't justify it, maybe you're not voting for the right people?
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Dec 11, 2019 17:00:39 GMT
Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 17:00:39 GMT
Mancot's already got his book of excuses ready for the result, I suspect he will blame the people for being too thick.
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Dec 11, 2019 17:14:15 GMT
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Post by iandychesterfc on Dec 11, 2019 17:14:15 GMT
There are some very bad eggs on both sides on social media. Probably fair to say Labour supporters are a bit louder about who they're going to vote for than Tories, and I suppose to some that might come across as preachy and condescending. I've never really understood the concept of not telling others who you're voting for though. If you're not proud of who you voted for and can't justify it, maybe you're not voting for the right people? It’s not about the bad eggs, that’s the point. We’re talking about a saturated platform actually having the reverse effect. Pollsters used to say tory voters were shy to admit it, social media is seeimg kids vilified and called c**ts if the step out of the norm. |
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Post by iandychesterfc on Dec 11, 2019 17:14:46 GMT
Mancot's already got his book of excuses ready for the result, I suspect he will blame the people for being too thick. MSM mate, guaranteed. |
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Dec 11, 2019 17:17:30 GMT
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Post by iandychesterfc on Dec 11, 2019 17:17:30 GMT
Oh and of course the intimation is I’m ‘Tory-Lite’ as a blairite with no one to vote for. So there we are, if that matters. I voted plaid in 2017 as I voted for anyone but TM or JC. I believe you should still vote, even if it was a waste of time.
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Dec 11, 2019 18:06:22 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Dec 11, 2019 18:06:22 GMT
I see the political editor of the state broadcaster has today broken the law on live television. A week after Dominic Raab did the exact same thing. Many are reporting her to the police. Could get nasty this.
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Post by jb on Dec 11, 2019 18:17:12 GMT
Simple example for you. Raising corporation tax and the minimum wage is going to be a disaster for SME's. Probably even more us than for the likes of "Amazon", "Phones 4 U" and other nationwide companies who provide large scale employment. It will also be problematic for consumers as the price of goods will rise thus meaning they are squeezed further. Personal debt will increase because goods and services are more expensive. Companies will also struggle to grow and recruit because consumers can't afford the goods/services and the economy will stagnate. Companies may have to make redundancies and thus meaning more people will have to rely on state benefits. Pay rises will become a rarity in the private sector. That's one Labour disaster to look forward to. All self-explanatory really Mancot and when pushed McDonnell has never given answer to this fanciful proposition. I have to say the lack of a sliding scale approach on the changes to Corp Tax and dividend concerns me the very most. The Shadow Chancellor (although I doubt he could be trusted with a Bells Whisky bottle full of loose change) seems to have this weird obsession with the 150 billionaires in this country and thinks all business owners are like that. He appears so separated from reality it is untrue. One dangerous individual is McDonnell. He’ll be riding into Downing St on his unicorn tomorrow though. |
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Post by Si on Dec 11, 2019 18:47:06 GMT
I’ve voted Labour as I believe their policies are more likely to improve me and my families lives. I also believe that under the Conservative government the country seems to be in dire straits so it’s time for someone else to have a go and trying to run the country better.
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Dec 11, 2019 19:22:37 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Dec 11, 2019 19:22:37 GMT
BBC reporter earlier this evening: “If Boris wins the majority HE *SO* DESERVES...”
Looks like the ruling party don’t need an official spokesperson when the so-called impartial state broadcaster chunders out crap like that.
I can’t wait for election purdah to kick in...
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Dec 11, 2019 19:24:52 GMT
Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 19:24:52 GMT
So Mancot, against one of the worst parties ever, how many seats will Corbyn's Labour win by ? Simple question, no tricks, just a number needed.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Dec 11, 2019 19:31:16 GMT
So Mancot, against one of the worst parties ever, how many seats will Corbyn's Labour win by ? Simple question, no tricks, just a number needed. Thought you quit this forum when you decided you weren’t a Chester fan anymore? |
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Dec 11, 2019 19:31:58 GMT
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Post by jb on Dec 11, 2019 19:31:58 GMT
So Mancot, against one of the worst parties ever, how many seats will Corbyn's Labour win by ? Simple question, no tricks, just a number needed. Thought you quit this forum when you decided you weren’t a Chester fan anymore? |
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Dec 11, 2019 19:38:03 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Dec 11, 2019 19:38:03 GMT
Thought you quit this forum when you decided you weren’t a Chester fan anymore? Top man Liam is. He hates Tories too. |
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Dec 11, 2019 19:40:03 GMT
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Post by jb on Dec 11, 2019 19:40:03 GMT
Top man Liam is. He hates Tories too. Written by Noel Gallagher who tells it like it is about your Demi-god. |
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Dec 11, 2019 19:43:08 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Dec 11, 2019 19:43:08 GMT
Top man Liam is. He hates Tories too. Written by Noel Gallagher who tells it like it is about your Demi-god. Yeah and his last album sounded like ELO, only shitter. I think my Mum’s got more street cred than nasty Noel. |
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Dec 11, 2019 19:52:15 GMT
Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 19:52:15 GMT
Awww Manky, not going to answer ? Surely, its an easy one for you ? Too scared ?
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Dec 11, 2019 19:56:52 GMT
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Post by jb on Dec 11, 2019 19:56:52 GMT
Written by Noel Gallagher who tells it like it is about your Demi-god. Yeah and his last album sounded like ELO, only shitter. I think my Mum’s got more street cred than nasty Noel. Try to discuss Labour‘’s taxation plans, foreign policy, the chequered past of the leader and get no response. However, mention a former member of “Oasis” and it becomes an NME review of his last album. |
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Dec 11, 2019 19:57:42 GMT
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Post by jb on Dec 11, 2019 19:57:42 GMT
Awww Manky, not going to answer ? Surely, its an easy one for you ? Too scared ? He never does. He changes the subject. |
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Post by Ian H Block on Dec 11, 2019 20:09:16 GMT
Yeah and his last album sounded like ELO, only shitter. I think my Mum’s got more street cred than nasty Noel. Try to discuss Labour‘’s taxation plans, foreign policy, the chequered past of the leader and get no response. However, mention a former member of “Oasis” and it becomes an NME review of his last album. Just shows your total lack of taste extends from politics to music. Bet you wear boot cut jeans and slip-on shoes. |
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Dec 11, 2019 20:19:48 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Dec 11, 2019 20:19:48 GMT
Awww Manky, not going to answer ? Surely, its an easy one for you ? Too scared ? I don’t consider myself to be a polling expert so I wouldn’t know. Why are you posting on a forum for Chester fans anyway? |
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Dec 11, 2019 21:25:34 GMT
Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 21:25:34 GMT
But to clarify, you think Corbyn's Labour will win ?
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Post by Al on Dec 11, 2019 21:25:59 GMT
One thing is for sure. This election has been the ugliest I have ever known with the amount of disinformation thrown about online amplified by several people within the main stream media taking peoples word for it instead of actually doing their jobs 'as journalists'.
I am of course talking about the 'so called punch' that never was applied by Kuesneberg, Peston et al which later turned out to be a lie
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Dec 11, 2019 21:37:57 GMT
Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 21:37:57 GMT
I agree. The endless and patronising drivel by the left on social media, the stage managed buffoonery of Johnson and the general misinformation that has swamped this election is sickening.
None of them deserve to be in power.
You have to think that with a shambles of a Tory party lead by an idiot, if Labour cant win this time, they never will.
The next few years will see the Tories and Labour implode.
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Dec 11, 2019 21:59:59 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Dec 11, 2019 21:59:59 GMT
Che Guevara was an actual Marxist.
You’re a walking contradiction pal.
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Dec 11, 2019 22:13:51 GMT
Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 22:13:51 GMT
Thing is Manky, I'm not Che Guevara, its just a name. I'm more than up to speed with Che's history thanks, that's because I don't spend my evenings reposting other peoples tweets and pretending I'm clever.
But keep on ducking the question as you always do ----> do you think Corbyn's Labour will be able to beat the worst Conservative party in history ? Ill take your no response as evidence you don't think they will win.
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Dec 11, 2019 22:32:21 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Dec 11, 2019 22:32:21 GMT
I answered five posts ago, do keep up.
What do you do with your Saturday afternoons these days, now you’re no longer a Chester fan (and evidently proud enough to announce it)? Surely you don’t JUST stalk me on social media?
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Dec 11, 2019 22:48:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 22:48:22 GMT
My Saturdays are just fine, but thanks for asking.
Surely even someone of your limited intellect can answer a simple question ? no one KNOWS, but do you THINK Labour will win, or not ? Its not a hard question .
I'm not asking you to stake money, nor will I criticise you if you are wrong, but what's your gut feeling, confident or not ?
For someone who is very opinionated on politics,you have no OPINION on who will win a general election, really ? To the outsider, it looks like you are embarrassed to admit what you feel.
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Dec 11, 2019 22:58:24 GMT
Post by Deva Chanter on Dec 11, 2019 22:58:24 GMT
My Saturdays are just fine, but thanks for asking. Surely even someone of your limited intellect can answer a simple question ? no one KNOWS, but do you THINK Labour will win, or not ? Its not a hard question . I'm not asking you to stake money, nor will I criticise you if you are wrong, but what's your gut feeling, confident or not ? For someone who is very opinionated on politics,you have no OPINION on who will win a general election, really ? To the outsider, it looks like you are embarrassed to admit what you feel. I know you haven't asked me but I thought I'd put my neck on the line anyway and say either a hung parliament or a Labour minority government supported by the SNP and possibly the Liberal Democrats. This election is particularly hard to make a call given the specific seat and national dynamics, but I suspect the result will hinge on whether Labour's message in the last few weeks has convinced enough Labour Leave voters to switch back to the party and consequentially hold the Red Wall of Northern leave voting seats. |
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Dec 11, 2019 23:02:56 GMT
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Dec 11, 2019 23:02:56 GMT
I think remainers and the young need to get out in droves and vote tactically.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 23:25:02 GMT
My Saturdays are just fine, but thanks for asking. Surely even someone of your limited intellect can answer a simple question ? no one KNOWS, but do you THINK Labour will win, or not ? Its not a hard question . I'm not asking you to stake money, nor will I criticise you if you are wrong, but what's your gut feeling, confident or not ? For someone who is very opinionated on politics,you have no OPINION on who will win a general election, really ? To the outsider, it looks like you are embarrassed to admit what you feel. I know you haven't asked me but I thought I'd put my neck on the line anyway and say either a hung parliament or a Labour minority government supported by the SNP and possibly the Liberal Democrats. This election is particularly hard to make a call given the specific seat and national dynamics, but I suspect the result will hinge on whether Labour's message in the last few weeks has convinced enough Labour Leave voters to switch back to the party and consequentially hold the Red Wall of Northern leave voting seats. I think Alyn and Deeside, and Wrexham will be close. I think its a 20 majority for the Conservatives, JC to resign and BJ to not last the term !
PS On Peston tonight Jo Swinson has ruled out working with Labour.
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