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Feb 13, 2020 18:31:39 GMT
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Feb 13, 2020 18:31:39 GMT
A big shout out to all those who voted Brexit to stick it to the “globalists” & “unelected elites”...
Dominic Cummings has just manoeuvered ex-Goldman Sachs man & son-in-law to one of India’s richest billionaires in as Britain’s next Chancellor of the Exchequer.
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Post by Ian H Block on Feb 14, 2020 15:27:08 GMT
Life comes at you fast when you’re a Brexshitter.
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Feb 14, 2020 16:06:23 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2020 16:06:23 GMT
I've taken almost that long coming back home through Manchester Airport. This is the same man who complained about too many bikes in Amsterdam. either a wum or a retard. When I arrived in sau paulo Brazil we were all told aliens to the left. I found that quite amusing.
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Feb 14, 2020 16:59:47 GMT
Post by Lobster on Feb 14, 2020 16:59:47 GMT
Life comes at you fast when you’re a Brexshitter. They're incredible, some of them, aren't they? If they'd listened for five minutes to anything people warned them about...
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Feb 14, 2020 17:55:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2020 17:55:05 GMT
It will happen to you. Unfortunately laughing at your own won't get you preferential treatment. By the way the airport said everybody was delayed due to staff training. it had nothing to do with British passport holders.
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Post by Ian H Block on Feb 14, 2020 18:08:52 GMT
It will happen to you. Unfortunately laughing at your own won't get you preferential treatment. By the way the airport said everybody was delayed due to staff training. it had nothing to do with British passport holders. The only people wanting preferential treatment are the Brexit idiots like Colin.
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Feb 14, 2020 18:15:00 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2020 18:15:00 GMT
Fake account mate
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Feb 14, 2020 18:21:48 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Feb 14, 2020 18:21:48 GMT
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Feb 14, 2020 19:14:35 GMT
Post by Lobster on Feb 14, 2020 19:14:35 GMT
I'm not laughing myself. I despair at these people.
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Feb 15, 2020 1:39:54 GMT
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Feb 15, 2020 1:39:54 GMT
Got to be a parody that.
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Feb 16, 2020 14:06:30 GMT
Post by Lobster on Feb 16, 2020 14:06:30 GMT
Fleetwood Terry, with his campaign to boycott Yorkshire Tea because they don't grow their tea in Yorkshire, makes Colin Browning look like a brain surgeon. Somebody should make him a cup of tea that's been "grown" on Ilkley Moor!
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Feb 16, 2020 20:24:27 GMT
The fact that the Labour leadership race is being absolutely dominated by a media-driven circus on the candidates views on a foreign power, and that the implication/direct allegation is criticism of that foreign power is antisemetic, is an absolute joke.
Get Israel out of UK political discourse.
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Post by Ian H Block on Feb 17, 2020 14:22:45 GMT
Some right creatures being employed as Special Advisors by 10 Downing Street. Some of their views wouldn’t look out of place in Nazi Germany and their whole Untermensch ideology. Seriously sleepwalking into Fascism.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Feb 17, 2020 20:20:54 GMT
Some right creatures being employed as Special Advisors by 10 Downing Street. Some of their views wouldn’t look out of place in Nazi Germany and their whole Untermensch ideology. Seriously sleepwalking into Fascism. Thank goodness the Chief Rabbi told us not to vote for that dangerous extremist Jeremy Corbyn. Without his timely intervention, there might be cabbages growing in the Downing Street garden. Luckily, there's just the odd harmless eugenicist roaming about.
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Feb 19, 2020 8:55:51 GMT
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Feb 19, 2020 8:55:51 GMT
The ruling Party’s announcement on so-called apparent “unskilled” migrant workers (they just mean ‘not paid enough for the hard work they do’) will directly impact on the NHS and health and social care.
Anyone earning less than £25.6k is an “unskilled” worker.
NHS starting salaries:
Nurse £24.2k Paramedic £24.2k Midwife £24.2k Radiographer £24.2k Care assistant £17.6k Physiotherapist £24.2k Occupational therapist £24.2k
Not to mention state school teacher £23.7k.
It’s as if by design isn’t it?
The above roles demand such a high level of diverse skills. They are low PAID and exploited. Never low skilled.
I assume British immigrants retiring to Spain will need to pass a Spanish history test, a language test and have a highly paid job lined up for them?
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Post by Lobster on Feb 19, 2020 10:07:16 GMT
The argument that this is to stop employers relying on cheap labour doesn't seem to make sense. Surely they'll just start paying indigenous Brits crap wages instead?
The way to stop cheap labour is to raise minimum wage and get rid of the zero hours culture. The nationality of the worker is irrelevant.
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Feb 19, 2020 12:07:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 12:07:07 GMT
I have said this before. I have pay slips from 1988 working at my trade carpenter and joiner for North Wales based companies on large contracts. My hourly rate of pay was £7..50.i don't think that was an unusual rate at that time. 1992 it was £9.10.i was after that time a site manager and remember my then boss being one of the first to employ. Eastern Europeans on sites. When asked why he said they are a lot cheaper. Moving forward to when I retired 2011 he was paying joiners £10..50 per hour. I often say to one of my daughters who work in a care home why do you work for £8. 20 an hour. She tells me this is the rate. I think we have sleep walked into this. Any thing that can alter this would be great in my opinion
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Feb 19, 2020 12:44:03 GMT
I have said this before. I have pay slips from 1988 working at my trade carpenter and joiner for North Wales based companies on large contracts. My hourly rate of pay was £7..50.i don't think that was an unusual rate at that time. 1992 it was £9.10.i was after that time a site manager and remember my then boss being one of the first to employ. Eastern Europeans on sites. When asked why he said they are a lot cheaper. Moving forward to when I retired 2011 he was paying joiners £10..50 per hour. I often say to one of my daughters who work in a care home why do you work for £8. 20 an hour. She tells me this is the rate. I think we have sleep walked into this. Any thing that can alter this would be great in my opinion The best way to alter it would be to stop unscrupulous bosses exploiting cheap labour and to put in place a real living wage. Doesn’t matter the nationality of the worker.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Feb 19, 2020 12:52:44 GMT
Anyway the point I was making was the deliberate action to impact on the NHS - to disinvest, to make it difficult to keep it running, to privatise, to then cash in.
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Feb 19, 2020 12:57:39 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 12:57:39 GMT
the big problem is if somebody will do it cheaper they will be used .i doubt you would pay top dollar for things you needed wether it it be food or labour.over 1 million people who will work cheaply have come into the country .bosses will use them and like it or not it drives wages down
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Post by Ian H Block on Feb 19, 2020 14:18:27 GMT
the big problem is if somebody will do it cheaper they will be used .i doubt you would pay top dollar for things you needed wether it it be food or labour.over 1 million people who will work cheaply have come into the country .bosses will use them and like it or not it drives wages down In the job sector I work in there are virtually no EU migrants employed, yet my take home pay has stagnated in the past 10 years, rather blowing your theory out of the water.
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Feb 19, 2020 15:02:23 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 15:02:23 GMT
What I am saying is not theory it is fact and totally from my experience I don't doubt your wages stagnated as mine did. I never had a pay rise during the last 3 years of my working life. When I asked for a rise I was told. times are hard and you get more than most. Not really the answers I wanted. My boss went from being a good payer to a bad payer. He did this because he could find cheaper labour. If we didnt like it we knew what we could do. By the way it didnt stop him from buying top of the range cars and 500k house
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Post by Ian H Block on Feb 19, 2020 15:14:24 GMT
What I am saying is not theory it is fact and totally from my experience I don't doubt your wages stagnated as mine did. I never had a pay rise during the last 3 years of my working life. When I asked for a rise I was told. times are hard and you get more than most. Not really the answers I wanted. My boss went from being a good payer to a bad payer. He did this because he could find cheaper labour. If we didnt like it we knew what we could do. By the way it didnt stop him from buying top of the range cars and 500k house And yet you still vote to support the interests of capital, despite experiencing such naked exploitation? Jesus.
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Feb 19, 2020 15:20:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 15:20:19 GMT
Why do you have turn every thing political.you see only what you want to see. It's a fact over 1 million people have come to this country and are prepared to work for less thus suppressing the hourly rates. Just because you have not experienced it does not mean it does not happen
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Post by Lobster on Feb 19, 2020 15:23:36 GMT
What I am saying is not theory it is fact and totally from my experience I don't doubt your wages stagnated as mine did. I never had a pay rise during the last 3 years of my working life. When I asked for a rise I was told. times are hard and you get more than most. Not really the answers I wanted. My boss went from being a good payer to a bad payer. He did this because he could find cheaper labour. If we didnt like it we knew what we could do. By the way it didnt stop him from buying top of the range cars and 500k house You will always have bosses who pay people as little as they can get away with. That's why "as little as they can get away with" should be more than it is now. Why do we have 'Minimum Wage' and 'Living Wage'? It's a clear sign that the government thinks it's OK to pay people less than the cost of living.
If Eastern Europeans or whoever don't do the minimum wage jobs, those jobs aren't going to go away or magically become better paid. It just means more Brits are going to have to do them. It could actually drag the indigenous Brit down into a lower pay bracket.
It's yet another example of the Conservative government taking a problem they've created through austerity, and making Europe and foreigners the scapegoat for it.
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Post by Lobster on Feb 19, 2020 15:26:22 GMT
Why do you have turn every thing political.you see only what you want to see. It's a fact over 1 million people have come to this country and are prepared to work for less thus suppressing the hourly rates. Just because you have not experienced it does not mean it does not happen "Forced to accept the bare minimum" is a more accurate way of putting it than "prepared to work for less". You're talking as though people are haggling their own wages down.
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Feb 19, 2020 15:32:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 15:32:15 GMT
Less is more for some countries. So it doesn't happen because you personally haven't seen it
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Post by Ian H Block on Feb 19, 2020 16:36:29 GMT
Why do you have turn every thing political.you see only what you want to see. It's a fact over 1 million people have come to this country and are prepared to work for less thus suppressing the hourly rates. Just because you have not experienced it does not mean it does not happen Apologies for bringing politics to the political thread.
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Feb 19, 2020 16:50:03 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 16:50:03 GMT
Accepted.
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Feb 19, 2020 17:04:30 GMT
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Feb 19, 2020 17:04:30 GMT
Why do you have turn every thing political.you see only what you want to see. It's a fact over 1 million people have come to this country and are prepared to work for less thus suppressing the hourly rates. Just because you have not experienced it does not mean it does not happen Because IT IS POLITICAL FFS.
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