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Post by norwegianblue on Dec 16, 2017 18:19:20 GMT
My concern would be are there any new injuries?
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Post by bing on Dec 16, 2017 18:24:17 GMT
Everyone was a paying fan today too. Makes me laugh how everyone tells the club to lower prices because itโll apparently get thousands flocking in. 886 lol. True but you'll never get huge attendances for round 1 of the trophy regardless of price. Comparing that to lowering league prices is like comparing a cat to a dog. I do think lowering price In the league would end our national league adventure though if it's not over already this season. I still have hope. I also think some fans may have assumed we wouldn't take the competition seriously given our league position. Good to see we did go for it - nothing like a few wins to instil confidence.
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Post by billyw on Dec 16, 2017 18:24:31 GMT
My concern would be are there any new injuries? Not sure about injuries but am I right in thinking Hannah has now picked up 5 bookings.
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Post by soulseal on Dec 16, 2017 18:27:48 GMT
Will have done the Players a power of good that result. Nothing like a challenging cup win to build up the squad confidence and team spirit.
After 2 cup defeats Fylde will be a bit down. A few defeats and they will become anxious in the league to.
Letโs beat Halifax โฝ๏ธ๐
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Post by tonya on Dec 16, 2017 18:35:30 GMT
Never mind boys we can concentrate on the league now ๐ and besides whoever seems to win this useless tinpot normally goes down We need to win games for confidence, irrespective of the tournament And I am sure players feel great and most fans!
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Post by Hannibal on Dec 16, 2017 18:44:47 GMT
Can anyone remember when penalty shoot-outs began because as a youngster some cup ties went to 2nd and even 3rd or 4th replays. In all my time following England, Leeds Utd, Chester FC, Chester Youth team and probably others, that the first time I've witnessed a penalty shoot-out win, albeit on Dee 106.3 travelling home. When Chester's 5th penalty 'will be taken by Andy Halls' was announced my heart sunk, but credit where due he put it in with aplomb. Excitement levels rising just a little.
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Post by Jack on Dec 16, 2017 18:52:57 GMT
Credit to Halls - that can't have been easy.
He's had a poor start here but there's been an improvement under Bignot. I think he definitely gets a rougher ride from the crowd than any other player, but hopefully it's a turning point.
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Post by Maravilla on Dec 16, 2017 19:01:02 GMT
There were audible groans when Halls stepped out of the line for the 5th penalty. Can't have helped him, but credit to him, it was a fantastic strike.
Not sure about the substitution, taking Gough off for Halls. It meant moving 3 players out of position, as James went to right wing back, Halls was in centre midfield and Hall-Johnson went to the left wing back.
Great boost for the finances though, will probably make up for the Cestrian 10 debacle plus some.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Dec 16, 2017 19:06:58 GMT
Again an improved performance, but the problem is, that we probably have the starting 11 plus Archer and Udoh, that are capable of giving us a fighting chance of staying, in this league. The rest either through not being good enough or sustained injury problems are squad players, at best. It was noticible weaker when Shaw and Gough went off, because they close down quicker than Turnbull and Halls, which meant our midfield was far easier to play through. James has been off the pace for most of the season and is a shadow of his former self. Is it just down to confidence? Some positives. were the performances of the back three of Jones, Astles and Anderson and the performances of the wing backs Gough and Halls Johnson. Jones was excellent and will only improve with more games. Like Sam Hughes he has an 'old' head on young shoulders and reads the game, so well. It is also vital we extend the loan spell of Halls Johnson, the lad is pure quality. Dawson played better as the game went on. Hannah is starting to get amongst the goals and Akintude was ok (doing a lot of good work), but needs to add goals to his game. A forward should really be burying, the chance he had, in the second half and it left us vunerable to the late equaliser. Ditch McCathy's signings and we may well move forward.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 19:18:39 GMT
Credit to Halls - that can't have been easy. He's had a poor start here but there's been an improvement under Bignot. I think he definitely gets a rougher ride from the crowd than any other player, but hopefully it's a turning point. Am I the only one who feels a little uncomfortable with the "type" of abuse some players, Halls included, get from some in the crowd. By all means criticise and voice disapproval etc. but when it becomes of a personal nature it cannot do anything but further erode a player's confidence which is probably pretty low anyway. In my view it's bordering on the trolling which is all too common on so-called social media. Today especially, with a sparse crowd, the loudest voices will travel and the "victim" can't help but hear. I just feel it's counter-productive when the team needs all the help it can get from the fans. Btw, I'm certainly no fan of Halls!
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Post by Deva Chanter on Dec 16, 2017 19:26:05 GMT
Fairly decent game today despite the weather! Thought we were a bit lucky to get through given how we performed after going 1-0 up - it got pretty difficult to watch at times! As soon as we took the lead we stopped doing everything that had caused them problems - we stopped distributing the ball short and instead sat deeper and deeper and hoofed the ball longer and longer - not sure why we always do this after taking a lead.
Unfortunately, I don't think Bignot's substitutions helped - admittedly, Gough was well out of his depth today at LWB but to replace him with Halls who went CM, move Reece Hall-Johnson to LWB and put Kingsley James at RWB meant three players were now being played out of position and it told. The equaliser didn't come as a surprise and neither did their taking of the lead in extra time - they were all over us and our midfield was absolutely non-existent. Credit to the players though for not giving up, they dug in and got the equaliser when it seemed unlikely and most of them looked absolutely knackered.
Still not convinced what Kingsley James brings to the team at all, thought he was poor again today. Halls may have scored his penalty in difficult circumstances but apart from that, he was his usual self. Rowe-Turner gets a lot of undeserved stick on here I think, he should be playing LWB ahead of Gough. I'm quite excited by the partnership Hannah and Akintunde seem to be striking up together, they compliment each other really well and Hannah is getting back amongst the goals again.
All five of our penalties were really well taken and hopefully today can act as a bit of a turning point - we didn't play particularly well, didn't really deserve to win, but we did and at the same time picked up back-to-back victories for the first time in I don't know how long! Looking forward to the trip to Halifax now.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Dec 16, 2017 19:27:25 GMT
Second week in a row Iโve predicted a defeat, and what happens next?? ๐๐
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 19:28:16 GMT
Again an improved performance, but the problem is, that we probably have the starting 11 plus Archer and Udoh, that are capable of giving us a fighting chance of staying, in this league. The rest either through not being good enough or sustained injury problems are squad players, at best. It was noticible weaker when Shaw and Gough went off, because they close down quicker than Turnbull and Halls, which meant our midfield was far easier to play through. James has been off the pace for most of the season and is a shadow of his former self. Is it just down to confidence? Some positives. were the performances of the back three of Jones, Astles and Anderson and the performances of the wing backs Gough and Halls Johnson. Jones was excellent and will only improve with more games. Like Sam Hughes he has an 'old' head on young shoulders and reads the game, so well. It is also vital we extend the loan spell of Halls Johnson, the lad is pure quality. Dawson played better as the game went on. Hannah is starting to get amongst the goals and Akintude was ok (doing a lot of good work), but needs to add goals to his game. A forward should really be burying, the chance he had, in the second half and it left to vunerable to the late equaliser. Ditch McCathy's signings and we may well move forward. Fair assessment I would add that you can still see that confidence is fragile. Sitting deep, hurried and misplaced passes are all symptomatic of us not having the confidence to impose ourselves on the game. Wins and results will build that confidence, two on the bounce is a big step in the right direction.
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Post by tonya on Dec 16, 2017 19:40:46 GMT
There were audible groans when Halls stepped out of the line for the 5th penalty. Can't have helped him, but credit to him, it was a fantastic strike. Not sure about the substitution, taking Shaw off for Halls. It meant moving 3 players out of position, as James went to right wing back, Halls was in centre midfield and Hall-Johnson went to the left wing back. Great boost for the finances though, will probably make up for the Cestrian 10 debacle plus some. You seem to contradict yourself. It was a great sub. as Halls scored. Why question it?
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Post by tarvinblue on Dec 16, 2017 19:43:06 GMT
It was a strange old game. We were dominated but had by far and away the best chances across the 120 minutes. We had a decent shape but struggled to string together more than two, three passes. Having the shape allowed us to stay in the game throughout, despite never really looking comfortable. Fylde had a lot more pace and quickness in possession but just lacked that final cutting edge. Bringing Lowe on to go with the two tricky wingers they also brought on put them in the ascendancy and having that type of quality to bring off the bench certainly showed the difference between us and them.
I was a big fan of Bignot getting the job and I think he has improved our shape and made us more difficult to beat. However, some of his decision making at critical moments is baffling. Halls may well have scored the winning penalty and fair play to him for stepping up to take it, but I cannot fathom what he was doing on there in the first place. His performance for 40 minutes was reminiscent of his first half last week against Solihull and we started to get over run in midfield the moment he came on. Udoh does nothing for me either - can't hold the ball up and doesn't have the necessary skill level to beat a man. Seems like a waste of the Bignot Budget collection to me.
All in all though, we have won another game of football. Additionally, we have won a penalty shoot out - such a rarity in recent years. Let's hope we get a decent home draw on Monday and keep this cup run going as it would add some much needed interest above and beyond the relegation battle we are embroiled in.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Dec 16, 2017 19:50:10 GMT
That was a really good win. It was a decent game with both teams up for it and Iโm really made up that we are through to the next round. It is great to see Ross Hannah scoring for fun again. In his first spell, he started off slowly, but just before Christmas he began to bang in the goals. I can see something similar happening this season. James Jones again put in a solid shift. He reads the game very well, and may well be the next Sam Hughes given the correct coaching. Ryan Astles was impressive too. He played really well, and kept a cool head throughout the game. I think that we have turned around a little corner now. A few months ago, no-one would have thought that we would win twice at home in 7 days, but we have now. It really does put us in a good position for our next few vital matches. It is great to have received a financial boost too which is important for the club. Hopefully we can go quite far in the FA Trophy this season. A number of National League clubs (including our friends down the road) have already been knocked out so who knows. Iโm really looking forward to FC Halifax away next Saturday. They arenโt doing well themselves, and we have a decent chance of winning. Letโs hope so. Come On You Blues!
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Post by sqzl on Dec 16, 2017 20:05:32 GMT
Second week in a row Iโve predicted a defeat, and what happens next?? ๐๐ Don't even think about predicting a win buddy!! It's another defeat on your next match thread please!
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Post by sqzl on Dec 16, 2017 20:07:59 GMT
There were audible groans when Halls stepped out of the line for the 5th penalty. Can't have helped him, but credit to him, it was a fantastic strike. Not sure about the substitution, taking Shaw off for Halls. It meant moving 3 players out of position, as James went to right wing back, Halls was in centre midfield and Hall-Johnson went to the left wing back. Great boost for the finances though, will probably make up for the Cestrian 10 debacle plus some. You seem to contradict yourself. It was a great sub. as Halls scored. Why question it? He scored in a penalty shootout. I think it's not difficult to see why the sub took place, Shaw is only just back from a long absence and he would never have lasted the 90, let alone the 120nin the end! I'm not Halls fan, but I agree with Ruffles in that the abuse he does receive is ridiculous and no doubt distracting on the pitch.
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Post by sirfred on Dec 16, 2017 20:38:02 GMT
It was a strange old game. We were dominated but had by far and away the best chances across the 120 minutes. We had a decent shape but struggled to string together more than two, three passes. Having the shape allowed us to stay in the game throughout, despite never really looking comfortable. Fylde had a lot more pace and quickness in possession but just lacked that final cutting edge. Bringing Lowe on to go with the two tricky wingers they also brought on put them in the ascendancy and having that type of quality to bring off the bench certainly showed the difference between us and them. I was a big fan of Bignot getting the job and I think he has improved our shape and made us more difficult to beat. However, some of his decision making at critical moments is baffling. Halls may well have scored the winning penalty and fair play to him for stepping up to take it, but I cannot fathom what he was doing on there in the first place. His performance for 40 minutes was reminiscent of his first half last week against Solihull and we started to get over run in midfield the moment he came on. Udoh does nothing for me either - can't hold the ball up and doesn't have the necessary skill level to beat a man. Seems like a waste of the Bignot Budget collection to me. All in all though, we have won another game of football. Additionally, we have won a penalty shoot out - such a rarity in recent years. Let's hope we get a decent home draw on Monday and keep this cup run going as it would add some much needed interest above and beyond the relegation battle we are embroiled in.
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Post by Hannibal on Dec 16, 2017 20:38:10 GMT
Second week in a row Iโve predicted a defeat, and what happens next?? ๐๐ Keep it up Rio ... your doing a marvellous job.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 20:39:45 GMT
Hannah dedicated his goal to his Nan and family after losing his Nan earlier in the week
just been talking to a Tranmere mate reckons Solihull had no intention of getting game back on and club officials went in to the refs dressing room to get it abandoned straight away
apparently club officials and volunteers also rude to there supporters
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Post by sirfred on Dec 16, 2017 20:44:25 GMT
Sorry for that previons non posting what I meant to say regarding Tarvins post was you speak good sense but have to realise the battle we are in and Bignots predicament he is desperately working on a shoestring with most of Mccarthys signings whatever decisions he is making is giving us hope and most importantly results - I think he is absolutely the right man at the helm and am confident he will steer us to safety and possible more in the not too distant future
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Post by sirfred on Dec 16, 2017 20:52:02 GMT
Second week in a row Iโve predicted a defeat, and what happens next?? ๐๐ Rio you keep it going son - The Curse of Rio and your dreadful predictions are becoming legendary
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Post by MPW on Dec 16, 2017 21:09:19 GMT
My concern would be are there any new injuries? Not sure about injuries but am I right in thinking Hannah has now picked up 5 bookings. He wonโt be suspended even if he was.
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Post by southernblue on Dec 16, 2017 21:10:25 GMT
We had a thread about Hannah a couple of months back with people saying he should be dropped. I suggested we remain patient with him as he had been out of first team football for a while and previously only got going properly around November. I believed he would begin coming good around the same time.
He's had a good month, beginning to get on the score sheet regularly. Still missing a few, but I hope this is the start of another great run. He really could be the difference that keeps us up.
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Post by bitbbh on Dec 16, 2017 22:18:07 GMT
A fit and free scoring Ross Hannah is the key to dragging us away from the trap door.
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Post by bing on Dec 16, 2017 23:07:56 GMT
I like Hannah. I was up in the Legends Lounge after the Dagenham game - he was in a foul mood. It was honestly just about the only positive I took from that game, seeing how much he cared
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Dec 17, 2017 0:48:00 GMT
Again an improved performance, but the problem is, that we probably have the starting 11 plus Archer and Udoh, that are capable of giving us a fighting chance of staying, in this league. The rest either through not being good enough or sustained injury problems are squad players, at best. It was noticible weaker when Shaw and Gough went off, because they close down quicker than Turnbull and Halls, which meant our midfield was far easier to play through. James has been off the pace for most of the season and is a shadow of his former self. Is it just down to confidence? Some positives. were the performances of the back three of Jones, Astles and Anderson and the performances of the wing backs Gough and Halls Johnson. Jones was excellent and will only improve with more games. Like Sam Hughes he has an 'old' head on young shoulders and reads the game, so well. It is also vital we extend the loan spell of Halls Johnson, the lad is pure quality. Dawson played better as the game went on. Hannah is starting to get amongst the goals and Akintude was ok (doing a lot of good work), but needs to add goals to his game. A forward should really be burying, the chance he had, in the second half and it left to vunerable to the late equaliser. Ditch McCathy's signings and we may well move forward. Ake didn't quite look as though he fancied it when that chance fell to him. He needed to take it on first time before the keeper set himself, once he took that touch you knew the chance was gone. Then again, chances for the strikers have generally been at a premium this season so he's likely just lacking confidence. Agree with your last point - the more Bignot can undo of the damaging Macca era the greater our hope of moving forward.
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Post by chesterken on Dec 17, 2017 2:09:23 GMT
Again an improved performance, but the problem is, that we probably have the starting 11 plus Archer and Udoh, that are capable of giving us a fighting chance of staying, in this league. The rest either through not being good enough or sustained injury problems are squad players, at best. It was noticible weaker when Shaw and Gough went off, because they close down quicker than Turnbull and Halls, which meant our midfield was far easier to play through. James has been off the pace for most of the season and is a shadow of his former self. Is it just down to confidence? Some positives. were the performances of the back three of Jones, Astles and Anderson and the performances of the wing backs Gough and Halls Johnson. Jones was excellent and will only improve with more games. Like Sam Hughes he has an 'old' head on young shoulders and reads the game, so well. It is also vital we extend the loan spell of Halls Johnson, the lad is pure quality. Dawson played better as the game went on. Hannah is starting to get amongst the goals and Akintude was ok (doing a lot of good work), but needs to add goals to his game. A forward should really be burying, the chance he had, in the second half and it left to vunerable to the late equaliser. Ditch McCathy's signings and we may well move forward. Ake didn't quite look as though he fancied it when that chance fell to him. He needed to take it on first time before the keeper set himself, once he took that touch you knew the chance was gone. Then again, chances for the strikers have generally been at a premium this season so he's likely just lacking confidence. Agree with your last point - the more Bignot can undo of the damaging Macca era the greater our hope of moving forward. If he managers to keep us up it will l be a massive achievement considering all the money teams around us are spending and are going to spend once the new window opens, it will all be done on a shoestring with no money to spend.
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Post by southernblue on Dec 17, 2017 2:45:24 GMT
Hopefully if we progress beyond round two, some of the prize money can be made available for the January transfer window.
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