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Post by Lobster on Feb 15, 2017 7:59:48 GMT
Two keepers is not a necessity I don't think. I rate both Roberts and Lynch, but I don't really think the current situation where we're unsure who's going to be in goal from one game to the next is helping either of them. I'd prefer Macca to pick one and stick with him.
I'd rather have another outfield player in the squad than a second keeper. People might say what if the keeper gets sent off and injured in a match, and the answer is that we'd just have to put an outfield player in goal (Hunt might do alright going by Dagenham!) and hope for the best. It's a bummer, but it doesn't happen often and would only be for one game. We could soon bring someone in on loan for the next game.
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Post by sqzl on Feb 15, 2017 8:21:56 GMT
I would keep from the current squad: Lynch Hunt Astles Hudson Waters Shaw Durrell Akintunde Richards Mahon possibly consider Horwood and Killock, subject to fitness, but unlikely to keep am optimistic we can get Lloyd, and assume Alabi and Hughes will go. losing George, Joyce is not problematic, losing Vassell and Roberts more so. Gives room in the squad for another goalie, right back, Centre-half, two central midfielders, two forwards of which 2 or 3 should be season long loans. doesnt seem disasterous, provided the new players are all 1st XI quality from the start. I don't get how people slate certain players and want them gone, yet say they may keep Killock next season? He's not played a game, it's terrible luck with injury but unless he starts playing and looking like The player we have on loan a couple years ago, I'd have to get rid. Can't afford passengers even if it's not his fault. |
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Post by Pseudoscally on Feb 15, 2017 8:27:39 GMT
Two keepers is not a necessity I don't think. I rate both Roberts and Lynch, but I don't really think the current situation where we're unsure who's going to be in goal from one game to the next is helping either of them. I'd prefer Macca to pick one and stick with him. I'd rather have another outfield player in the squad than a second keeper. People might say what if the keeper gets sent off and injured in a match, and the answer is that we'd just have to put an outfield player in goal (Hunt might do alright going by Dagenham!) and hope for the best. It's a bummer, but it doesn't happen often and would only be for one game. We could soon bring someone in on loan for the next game. I agree. People will argue that it creates competition.
It may well do. I think though, that goal keeping is special exception to the rule in that a keeper needs to be relaxed and not fearing for his place after every mistake. A manager needs to trust in a keeper and build his confidence - it's really no good to be going into a game worrying about making errors.
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Post by Coybs on Feb 15, 2017 10:43:59 GMT
according to the returning undercover chester it's luke george and hudson who are in contract talks
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Post by sqzl on Feb 15, 2017 10:55:48 GMT
according to the returning undercover chester it's luke george and hudson who are in contract talks Not sure on that source, it's always factual 10% of the time... I'd be happy with Hudson, George must improve and find consistency. |
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Post by histsci on Feb 15, 2017 11:39:36 GMT
Two keepers is not a necessity I don't think. I rate both Roberts and Lynch, but I don't really think the current situation where we're unsure who's going to be in goal from one game to the next is helping either of them. I'd prefer Macca to pick one and stick with him. I'd rather have another outfield player in the squad than a second keeper. People might say what if the keeper gets sent off and injured in a match, and the answer is that we'd just have to put an outfield player in goal (Hunt might do alright going by Dagenham!) and hope for the best. It's a bummer, but it doesn't happen often and would only be for one game. We could soon bring someone in on loan for the next game. I agree. People will argue that it creates competition.
It may well do. I think though, that goal keeping is special exception to the rule in that a keeper needs to be relaxed and not fearing for his place after every mistake. A manager needs to trust in a keeper and build his confidence - it's really no good to be going into a game worrying about making errors.
Surely having two keepers is worth it just for training? |
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Post by Pseudoscally on Feb 15, 2017 13:15:44 GMT
I agree. People will argue that it creates competition.
It may well do. I think though, that goal keeping is special exception to the rule in that a keeper needs to be relaxed and not fearing for his place after every mistake. A manager needs to trust in a keeper and build his confidence - it's really no good to be going into a game worrying about making errors.
Surely having two keepers is worth it just for training? No harm in letting our youth team keeper train with the 1st team. |
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Post by Krankie's Ghost on Feb 15, 2017 13:37:28 GMT
Agree with every single one those apart from Richards. However, I would invite Killock back to pre-season to see if he can prove his fitness. First out of the door for me would be Durrell. Has anyone seen him actually try and make a tackle. Makes Rooney look like Pirlo! I don't get all the anti Durrell stuff. OK! He's inconsistent but he's our only creative player. He's not here to tackle...plenty of them around. Assume you weren't at Borehamwood? People were saying the same thing about Rooney. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 13:39:26 GMT
according to the returning undercover chester it's luke george and hudson who are in contract talks But not Tom Shaw? Chronicle 14/02/17 the 30-year-old says he would be happy to pull on a blue and white shirt again next season and has already had discussions with the Blues hierarchy about extending his stay. "There are still a few bits here and there to sort out but I am very keen to stay" www.chesterchronicle.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/chester-fc-midfielder-tom-shaw-12598782 |
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Post by soulseal on Feb 15, 2017 17:10:51 GMT
I would keep from the current squad: Lynch Hunt Astles Hudson Waters Shaw Durrell Akintunde Richards Mahon possibly consider Horwood and Killock, subject to fitness, but unlikely to keep am optimistic we can get Lloyd, and assume Alabi and Hughes will go. losing George, Joyce is not problematic, losing Vassell and Roberts more so. Gives room in the squad for another goalie, right back, Centre-half, two central midfielders, two forwards of which 2 or 3 should be season long loans. doesnt seem disasterous, provided the new players are all 1st XI quality from the start. I don't get how people slate certain players and want them gone, yet say they may keep Killock next season? He's not played a game, it's terrible luck with injury but unless he starts playing and looking like The player we have on loan a couple years ago, I'd have to get rid. Can't afford passengers even if it's not his fault. |
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Post by soulseal on Feb 15, 2017 17:14:10 GMT
I don't really disagree, but would want to select the squad on what they can do next season rather than what they did this, though it is hard to ignore this season to the extent of Killock's fitness. I suppose at this time Killock gets a bit of leeway having played well previously.
I don't think we've seen the best of George, but last weekend made me think we never will.
A big part of this will be down to who we can bring in.
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Post by sqzl on Feb 15, 2017 21:27:19 GMT
I don't really disagree, but would want to select the squad on what they can do next season rather than what they did this, though it is hard to ignore this season to the extent of Killock's fitness. I suppose at this time Killock gets a bit of leeway having played well previously. I don't think we've seen the best of George, but last weekend made me think we never will. A big part of this will be down to who we can bring in. Good post, agree with you |
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Post by iandychesterfc on Feb 16, 2017 9:36:08 GMT
Luke George won north west player of the year. I know it's not his fault he won it, but it means expectation is much higher, particularly as he's our captain. I'm yet to see a performance that made me think 'this lad is the best in the north west non-league scene the way he's playing'. Not even close.
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Post by Anders on Feb 16, 2017 10:17:25 GMT
Luke George won north west player of the year. I know it's not his fault he won it, but it means expectation is much higher, particularly as he's our captain. I'm yet to see a performance that made me think 'this lad is the best in the north west non-league scene the way he's playing'. Not even close. In fairness, that performance came just the other week. That came with him playing a bit further forward with a bit of freedom with Joyce sitting very static in front of the back four. He took his goal well and hit the post. It might work each now and then away from home but not at the Deva. |
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Post by blue4life on Feb 16, 2017 11:53:51 GMT
Youngsters Jamie Morgan, Lucas Dawson & Liam Davies all currently on trial at Chester. Deals could become permanent if they impress.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 15:09:00 GMT
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Post by Shrewd Blue on Feb 16, 2017 15:32:47 GMT
Didn't think it was possible to have a smaller squad! That's a bit of a concern for me.
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Post by Blockhead on Feb 16, 2017 16:06:44 GMT
Didn't think it was possible to have a smaller squad! That's a bit of a concern for me. You'd think the tribunal fee we receive for Sam Hughes would be used to bolster the squad to make a real fist of the playoffs next season. |
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Post by iandychesterfc on Feb 16, 2017 16:19:00 GMT
how do you have a smaller squad?
ok we have 2 GKs (1 loan) 4 CBs, 2 LBs, 1 RB( Loan), 4 CMs if include lloyd on loan and 3 wide players with 3 strikers.
added to this 2 swettenhams YTS lads.
hardly room for cuts there.
oh and O'Brian and Marsh who haven't played.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 16:22:01 GMT
Didn't think it was possible to have a smaller squad! That's a bit of a concern for me. You'd think the tribunal fee we receive for Sam Hughes would be used to bolster the squad to make a real fist of the playoffs next season. As the amount is as yet unknown maybe it hasn't been taken into consideration? Did see somewhere that if and when the budget is increased the first priority would be to cover the cost of upping training from 3 to 4 days a week. |
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Post by sqzl on Feb 16, 2017 16:26:42 GMT
You'd think the tribunal fee we receive for Sam Hughes would be used to bolster the squad to make a real fist of the playoffs next season. As the amount is as yet unknown maybe it hasn't been taken into consideration? Did see somewhere that if and when the budget is increased the first priority would be to cover the cost of upping training from 3 to 4 days a week. If it's cut slightly but we add serious quality and keep our best players it's still a risk, but could be one worth taking. Loans will again play a big part for us next year i think. |
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Post by Anders on Feb 16, 2017 17:16:12 GMT
Didn't think it was possible to have a smaller squad! That's a bit of a concern for me. Does make you wonder. Players used 2016/17 season so far. (http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk) 41 - York 40 - Southport 38 - Braintree 36 - Eastleigh 31 - Guiseley, Solihull 30 - Sutton 29 - Macclesfield 28 - Wrexham 27 - Lincoln, Maidstone, Woking 26 - Dagenham 25 - Barrow, Gateshead, Torquay 24 - Bromley, North Ferriby, Tranmere 23 - Forest Green, Boreham Wood 22 - Aldershot, Chester, Dover |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Feb 16, 2017 17:22:34 GMT
Hardly surprising when you look at our attendances this season.
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Post by Lobster on Feb 16, 2017 19:09:13 GMT
On the positive side, the teams not using as many players are mostly doing a lot better.
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Post by B Block Blue on Feb 16, 2017 20:05:35 GMT
I'd happily drive Richards to his next club. Just not good enough.
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Post by MPW on Feb 16, 2017 22:03:07 GMT
I questioned Macca's decision last summer to retain most of last season's squad, especially after so many underperformed and losing Heneghan, Hannah and Rooney.
But to be fair he and Sharps managed to get the best out of the likes of Astles, Hunt, Shaw, Lloyd, Hughes and Alabi.
Replacing Hughes and Alabi will be a big challenge and there certainly won't be much room for error if the budget and squad is trimmed next seaaon.
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Post by MPW on Feb 16, 2017 22:06:12 GMT
how do you have a smaller squad? ok we have 2 GKs (1 loan) 4 CBs, 2 LBs, 1 RB( Loan), 4 CMs if include lloyd on loan and 3 wide players with 3 strikers. added to this 2 swettenhams YTS lads. hardly room for cuts there. oh and O'Brian and Marsh who haven't played. Wigan are letting us have O'Brien for free |
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Post by Charfield Blue on Feb 16, 2017 22:11:22 GMT
I questioned Macca's decision last summer to retain most of last season's squad, especially after so many underperformed and losing Heneghan, Hannah and Rooney. But to be fair he and Sharps managed to get the best out of the likes of Astles, Hunt, Shaw, Lloyd, Hughes and Alabi. Replacing Hughes and Alabi will be a big challenge and there certainly won't be much room for error if the budget and squad is trimmed next seaaon. I think Alabi will be the bigger loss. |
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Post by marner93 on Feb 16, 2017 22:18:22 GMT
I questioned Macca's decision last summer to retain most of last season's squad, especially after so many underperformed and losing Heneghan, Hannah and Rooney. But to be fair he and Sharps managed to get the best out of the likes of Astles, Hunt, Shaw, Lloyd, Hughes and Alabi. Replacing Hughes and Alabi will be a big challenge and there certainly won't be much room for error if the budget and squad is trimmed next seaaon. I think Alabi will be the bigger loss. I think Sharps was the biggest loss. |
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Post by Al on Feb 16, 2017 22:28:41 GMT
I think Alabi will be the bigger loss. I think Sharps was the biggest loss. I think the bigger loss was the missing 1,000 fans through the gate personally |
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