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Post by sirfred on Jan 3, 2018 7:11:47 GMT
If I owned a pack of dogs and some were lame some had 3 legs and some were suffering from Rabies would I be able to turn them into Circus performers? I could try and other trainers could be hired but at the end of the day they would never make it in the big top- similarly our squad have been inadequate from the off- I blame Mccarthy not Bignot for that. Askey is the best Manager in non league football he had 1 player signed up at a time Mccarthy had 17 signed up he did his research on a low budget and the rest is history- could he sort our ferile hounds out - I doubt it.
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Post by eyeswideopen on Jan 3, 2018 7:45:49 GMT
If I owned a pack of dogs and some were lame some had 3 legs and some were suffering from Rabies would I be able to turn them into Circus performers? I could try and other trainers could be hired but at the end of the day they would never make it in the big top- similarly our squad have been inadequate from the off- I blame Mccarthy not Bignot for that. Askey is the best Manager in non league football he had 1 player signed up at a time Mccarthy had 17 signed up he did his research on a low budget and the rest is history- could he sort our ferile hounds out - I doubt it. If you want to use such a crap analogy, I will continue it for you.
If you owned a pack of dogs and some were lame, some had three legs and some suffering from rabies, then I would point the finger at yourself for allowing them to be in that condition in the first place, you bought them, reared them or never got them vaccinated, not the trainer coming in to sort them out, or the trainer previously, the mess runs deeper than that.
Perhaps we should get in the RSPCA to drag Maguire and the board out of their kennels and explain why we have assembled such a mangy pack of animals that simply cant be circus standard.
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Post by sirfred on Jan 3, 2018 7:56:31 GMT
But I took them in nobody else wanted them and they were cheap - have a heart
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Post by Al on Jan 3, 2018 8:00:27 GMT
But I took them in nobody else wanted them and they were cheap - have a heart And yet you still to failed to look after them or even get them treated. You're a disgrace.
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Post by imadeva on Jan 3, 2018 8:37:44 GMT
I think theee players have been dreadful largely this season. But I also think the management of them has been very poor, but crucially I think they can improve and be harder to beat at least. With a better manager this crew could do better, loads of room for improvement and an experienced manager would screw out of them better performances. Look at Hodgson at Palace as a rather daft example, but still, loads of points available, shift Bignot and get an experienced man in THE SOONER THE BETTER If you the Board sit on your hands and do nothing you risk more than just relegation. You risk losing many of our supporters many of whom many not return for a long time who want to see a well organised, motivated team playing with pride. I’m already contemplating leaving the CFU, but doubt I will.........it’s in the blood Chester FC. So do something, presently you are just letting us all down. Great post spot on👏
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Post by billyw on Jan 3, 2018 8:42:16 GMT
I think theee players have been dreadful largely this season. But I also think the management of them has been very poor, but crucially I think they can improve and be harder to beat at least. With a better manager this crew could do better, loads of room for improvement and an experienced manager would screw out of them better performances. Look at Hodgson at Palace as a rather daft example, but still, loads of points available, shift Bignot and get an experienced man in THE SOONER THE BETTER If you the Board sit on your hands and do nothing you risk more than just relegation. You risk losing many of our supporters many of whom many not return for a long time who want to see a well organised, motivated team playing with pride. I’m already contemplating leaving the CFU, but doubt I will.........it’s in the blood Chester FC. So do something, presently you are just letting us all down. Great post spot on👏 Agreed.
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Post by g1 on Jan 3, 2018 8:56:22 GMT
Shouldn't of got the job in the first place I did warn you guys but you don't listen
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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Jan 3, 2018 10:21:36 GMT
If I owned a pack of dogs and some were lame some had 3 legs and some were suffering from Rabies would I be able to turn them into Circus performers? I could try and other trainers could be hired but at the end of the day they would never make it in the big top- similarly our squad have been inadequate from the off- I blame Mccarthy not Bignot for that. Askey is the best Manager in non league football he had 1 player signed up at a time Mccarthy had 17 signed up he did his research on a low budget and the rest is history- could he sort our ferile hounds out - I doubt it. Sir Fred, fully respect your point of view, but I am an optimist! Can you imagine............... I’d play the ones with rabies in midfield. Two of the 3 legged at centre half with a couple of your healthy dogs alongside. Another 3 legged dog up front as a target dog. The other healthy ones I’d organise and train and reward when they did well. We may not get them to the Big Top but I’d make us hard to beat and we’d scratch together a few performances and the audience would get behind us and the dogs would achieve otherwise unexpected glories!!!! And I’m not even experienced dog trainer! But agree the squad (Sorry pack) was assembled hastily and poorly by JM but they were previously very “healthy” dogs........why have they suddenly become lame? PS Intended to be tongue in cheek/light hearted, not much light hearted details about these days.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 22:01:19 GMT
What's the point? His contract is up at the end of the season, along with the vast majority of the squad. No point wasting money on cancelling contracts and a mass overhaul halfway through a futile season where we have nowt to play for. We may as well play the remainder of this season out and start afresh in May. Sychdyn Blue. Do you have any link to say he's got a 12-month contract. Further back the thread I've linked the Chronicle saying he has an 'undisclosed contract'. Has anything changed? Or been made public? I think MB's days are numbered. He's lost the fans on the clubs' forums. That seems the way these days. I don't like it. Sacking gaffers on forums? It's true! Social Media has dealt football managers, in the UK alone, from The Premiership all the way to the National League and beyond..........Judge by keyboard. Bignot's days are numbered. I saw somewhere that some fans want to try and tempt Neil Young from a stable job with Arriva?
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Post by tonya on Jan 3, 2018 22:11:19 GMT
What about those other 2 players who some considered to be too lame and were happy to see them go over the hills to Macc? Some major error of judgement and forward planning there....
I have asked a few times on here what the terms of his contract were and no one seems to know. So non fans own clubs normally give that information out but for some reason a fans owned club doesn't? We know what Wenger's contract is but not our own managers. What is there to be so secretive about?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 22:19:15 GMT
What about those other 2 players who some considered to be too lame and were happy to see them go over the hills to Macc? Some major error of judgement and forward planning there.... I have asked a few times on here what the terms of his contract were and no one seems to know. So non fans own clubs normally give that information out but for some reason a fans owned club doesn't? We know what Wenger's contract is but not our own managers. What is there to be so secretive about? Does anyone have any further contract information other than this? So far he's been 3-months and 14 days in to his tenure. 12-month contract minimum? Surely? www.chesterchronicle.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/chester-fc-appoint-marcus-bignot-13648270
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 22:21:45 GMT
What's the point? His contract is up at the end of the season, along with the vast majority of the squad. No point wasting money on cancelling contracts and a mass overhaul halfway through a futile season where we have nowt to play for. We may as well play the remainder of this season out and start afresh in May. Sychdyn Blue. Do you have any link to say he's got a 12-month contract. Further back the thread I've linked the Chronicle saying he has an 'undisclosed contract'. Has anything changed? Or been made public? I think MB's days are numbered. He's lost the fans on the clubs' forums. That seems the way these days. I don't like it. Sacking gaffers on forums? It's true! Social Media has dealt football managers, in the UK alone, from The Premiership all the way to the National League and beyond..........Judge by keyboard. Bignot's days are numbered. I saw somewhere that some fans want to try and tempt Neil Young from a stable job with Arriva? I'm pretty sure Young is at Halifax as scout but no doubt he would jump at the chance to come back
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 22:24:38 GMT
Sychdyn Blue. Do you have any link to say he's got a 12-month contract. Further back the thread I've linked the Chronicle saying he has an 'undisclosed contract'. Has anything changed? Or been made public? I think MB's days are numbered. He's lost the fans on the clubs' forums. That seems the way these days. I don't like it. Sacking gaffers on forums? It's true! Social Media has dealt football managers, in the UK alone, from The Premiership all the way to the National League and beyond..........Judge by keyboard. Bignot's days are numbered. I saw somewhere that some fans want to try and tempt Neil Young from a stable job with Arriva? I'm pretty sure Young is at Halifax as scout but no doubt he would jump at the chance to come back He'd know how to 'park the bus' on a 2 goal lead .....
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Post by g1 on Jan 3, 2018 23:13:03 GMT
All the people wanting young back let's be fair its a different job to last time and the players are worse as well the last two manager jobs he's had have ended in failure so its a no from me
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Post by Maravilla on Jan 3, 2018 23:13:10 GMT
What about those other 2 players who some considered to be too lame and were happy to see them go over the hills to Macc? Some major error of judgement and forward planning there.... I have asked a few times on here what the terms of his contract were and no one seems to know. So non fans own clubs normally give that information out but for some reason a fans owned club doesn't? We know what Wenger's contract is but not our own managers. What is there to be so secretive about? Does anyone have any further contract information other than this? So far he's been 3-months and 14 days in to his tenure. 12-month contract minimum? Surely? www.chesterchronicle.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/chester-fc-appoint-marcus-bignot-13648270Our CEO confirmed at a formal meeting of CFU members that the contract is until the end of the season, with the hope and expectation that the relationship would last longer.
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Post by Malcolm Tucker on Jan 3, 2018 23:25:19 GMT
I'm pretty sure Young is at Halifax as scout but no doubt he would jump at the chance to come back He'd know how to 'park the bus' on a 2 goal lead ..... Wouldn’t want him back. He did a great job but has failed at other clubs since, preserve his legend status and leave him in the past.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jan 4, 2018 7:42:54 GMT
I'm pretty sure Young is at Halifax as scout but no doubt he would jump at the chance to come back He'd know how to 'park the bus' on a 2 goal lead ..... Merseyrail, not Arriva. As for the Bignot contract I just remember seeing someone post on here that it runs until the end of the season (so not even 12 months) but don't think they provided a source. Agree with the above post that it's poor that supporters of a fan owned club don't get told these things.
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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Jan 4, 2018 17:56:07 GMT
Looks like he’s staying. All the press releases etc suggest so. Just a shame the Board don’t come out and clarify the position. We are supposed to be a Fans Owned Club.
I’ll be supporting on Saturday. Huge journey and costly. A win is needed......................but I remain disappointed at the lack of corporate responsibility, little faith in this Board but they still keep expecting us to shell out. Not fair.
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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Jan 4, 2018 17:56:53 GMT
Looks like he’s staying. All the press releases etc suggest so. Just a shame the Board don’t come out and clarify the position. We are supposed to be a Fans Owned Club.
I’ll be supporting on Saturday. Huge journey and costly. A win is needed......................but I remain disappointed at the lack of corporate responsibility, little faith in this Board but they still keep expecting us to shell out. Not fair.
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Post by whopper1 on Jan 13, 2018 19:39:03 GMT
Bout time the useless bignott got the sack, another great result today, Gateshead will have a field day against us
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Post by archwhopper on Jan 13, 2018 21:40:13 GMT
the cheap option bignot has not worked, but it aint his fault or the current board imo, the fault lies with neil young and previous board/boards who threw 10 times as much money to get us up through them piss poor leagues that was needed, can't really blame youngy, he was just like a fat kid in a sweet shop with a blank cheque, but when i read that posters on here want him back, give your heads a wobble ffs, any twat could of got us out of them leagues 4 years ago, differant story now though, when we go down thats us there for years to come,
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Post by Si on Jan 13, 2018 21:44:30 GMT
the cheap option bignot has not worked, but it aint his fault or the current board imo, the fault lies with neil young and previous board/boards who threw 10 times as much money to get us up through them piss poor leagues that was needed, can't really blame youngy, he was just like a fat kid in a sweet shop with a blank cheque, but when i read that posters on here want him back, give your heads a wobble ffs, any twat could of got us out of them leagues 4 years ago, differant story now though, when we go down thats us there for years to come, I think that's pretty disrespectful to what he achieved. It takes more than just money to be a successful manager. Granted, our budget helped us compares to others at those levels but you have to have man management skills and tactical nous. He came in when we only had cones and bibs to our name and created a title winning team from scratch with a brand new club....that's a hell of an achievement. Don't get me wrong, I think he has had his time with us and it's probably best he doesn't return, but to me he is a Chester legend and performed his job with pride and dignity that nobody has shown since.
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Post by whopper1 on Jan 13, 2018 21:52:59 GMT
the cheap option bignot has not worked, but it aint his fault or the current board imo, the fault lies with neil young and previous board/boards who threw 10 times as much money to get us up through them piss poor leagues that was needed, can't really blame youngy, he was just like a fat kid in a sweet shop with a blank cheque, but when i read that posters on here want him back, give your heads a wobble ffs, any twat could of got us out of them leagues 4 years ago, differant story now though, when we go down thats us there for years to come, yes ur spot on when we go down that's it, we will probably do a Hyde and alty and go down again
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Post by archwhopper on Jan 13, 2018 22:13:59 GMT
sorry to disagree si, youngy swaggered around like a dog with 2 dicks when things were hunky dory, agree his pride was damaged but as with burr and to a lesser extent mccarthy with the right backing we wouldn't find ourselves in this mess, the board have a lot to answer for, we have 18 games left now and only last week the voice has come out to support our club through these hard times,too little, too late, should of listened 4 months ago when the poll was out about next manager, bignot 25%, so 75% didn't want him, his pride will be hurt no doubt when he goes , a pay off will no doubt soften the pain
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Post by dmcnally on Jan 13, 2018 23:39:44 GMT
sorry to disagree si, youngy swaggered around like a dog with 2 dicks when things were hunky dory, agree his pride was damaged but as with burr and to a lesser extent mccarthy with the right backing we wouldn't find ourselves in this mess, the board have a lot to answer for, we have 18 games left now and only last week the voice has come out to support our club through these hard times,too little, too late, should of listened 4 months ago when the poll was out about next manager, bignot 25%, so 75% didn't want him, his pride will be hurt no doubt when he goes , a pay off will no doubt soften the pain The poll was generally about 35% towards and surely you have at least one brain cell in there to understand that just because someone didn’t vote for Bignot, it doesn’t mean they didn’t want him. Bignot was the most popular option, for example only about 25% wanted Barrow that means only 25% of or fanbase wanted Barrow?!
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Post by Si on Jan 13, 2018 23:46:41 GMT
sorry to disagree si, youngy swaggered around like a dog with 2 dicks when things were hunky dory, agree his pride was damaged but as with burr and to a lesser extent mccarthy with the right backing we wouldn't find ourselves in this mess, the board have a lot to answer for, we have 18 games left now and only last week the voice has come out to support our club through these hard times,too little, too late, should of listened 4 months ago when the poll was out about next manager, bignot 25%, so 75% didn't want him, his pride will be hurt no doubt when he goes , a pay off will no doubt soften the pain Don't be sorry to disagree. Would be boring if we all thought the same. I just rate the job he did here and he spent whatever money the board allowed him to spend in order to get the job done. He did his bit, but perhaps the board should have held a tighter grip on the purse strings at times. Mustn't forget that he also generated 100k from developing Sarcevic.
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Post by archwhopper on Jan 13, 2018 23:51:25 GMT
well done sarcevic for funding the paying off of youngy, burr and mccarthy, is there any left for bignot?
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Post by Si on Jan 13, 2018 23:56:39 GMT
well done sarcevic for funding the paying off of youngy, burr and mccarthy, is there any left for bignot? There would have been if we hadn't made a dogs dinner of selling Heneghan!
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Post by archwhopper on Jan 14, 2018 0:02:19 GMT
sorry to disagree si, youngy swaggered around like a dog with 2 dicks when things were hunky dory, agree his pride was damaged but as with burr and to a lesser extent mccarthy with the right backing we wouldn't find ourselves in this mess, the board have a lot to answer for, we have 18 games left now and only last week the voice has come out to support our club through these hard times,too little, too late, should of listened 4 months ago when the poll was out about next manager, bignot 25%, so 75% didn't want him, his pride will be hurt no doubt when he goes , a pay off will no doubt soften the pain The poll was generally about 35% towards and surely you have at least one brain cell in there to understand that just because someone didn’t vote for Bignot, it doesn’t mean they didn’t want him. Bignot was the most popular option, for example only about 25% wanted Barrow that means only 25% of or fanbase wanted Barrow?! when your old enough to vote, i will accept your point of view, until then i'm right behind get the barrow in as manager, not graham, mike the groundsman with jimmy "only for expenses" as assistant
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Post by sqzl on Jan 14, 2018 0:12:40 GMT
Lots of opinions here but I'll chip in with a little fact. With the same poor squad that Bignot probably wouldn't have signed half of anyway, if we had his points per game ratio from the start of the season we would be safe of the relegation spaces. Feel free to complain about his body language though, I mean I'm pretty sure all of us at Guiseley were just as dejected when that goal went in. I stood up personally and chucked my penguin bar against the floor (hardcore I know)
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