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Post by Matt on Jan 24, 2018 11:17:44 GMT
No surprise really, due to financial difficulties he’s to leave his position in April.
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Post by hackett on Jan 24, 2018 11:20:37 GMT
Well alot of people wanted him gone for various reasons,and he's dodged a bullet for Thursday. As has been said by other posters, about time we got some proper answers regarding club finances.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jan 24, 2018 11:26:22 GMT
Let's hope tomorrow nights meeting is not dominated by this and continues as planned with members holding the board to account.
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Post by gone4eva on Jan 24, 2018 11:27:10 GMT
As posted before, Board has a probable horror show of a meeting tomorrow night and now there is a scapegoat. Timing is wonderful for the Board.
Anyone from the Board resigned yet? Or are they content with their decisions and process?
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Post by gone4eva on Jan 24, 2018 11:27:52 GMT
Let's hope tomorrow nights meeting is not dominated by this and continues as planned with members holding the board to account. Exactly. Utter smokescreen with deliberate timing.
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Post by gezzer on Jan 24, 2018 11:44:32 GMT
Not leaving until April. I still have reservations about the remainder of the article ie Working groups announcement in a few weeks, already been a few weeks, whiff of the old saying "Fiddling while Rome is burning" but have to remain positive!
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Post by g1 on Jan 24, 2018 11:47:10 GMT
Never a mm fan cos of his backing of macca but the rest of the board need accounting for like Kirby like Allen and certain others he's been thrown under the bus
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 11:47:32 GMT
Let's hope tomorrow nights meeting is not dominated by this and continues as planned with members holding the board to account. Exactly. Utter smokescreen with deliberate timing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 11:49:59 GMT
I would hazard a guess that if people tried to use MM as a scapegoat (or sacrificial lamb) the general audience would see right through that immediately and would make their feelings felt very strongly
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Post by embalmer on Jan 24, 2018 11:53:11 GMT
The timing of this is really quite horrendous - regardless of your opinions on Maguire or the necessity for his role, throwing him under the bus the day before tomorrow's CFU meeting is an utterly classless act unbefitting of this football club - yet one which was entirely predictable from our current board. I am actually embarrassed as a fan, and owner, that the board think this is a plausible tactic to deflect the blame which is quite rightly being placed firmly at their doorstep.
Lets not forget the real issues here:
Who appointed Maguire? Who appointed McCarthy? Who gave McCarthy a suicidal contract extension? Who is it that didn't set McCarthy any targets at the beginning of the season? Who didn't sack McCarthy when they should have? Who allowed every single penny of the Sam Hughes money to be pissed away on the playing budget? Who makes promises in their election manifestos which they completely fail to deliver? Who is it that marketed a Cestrian 10 season ticket with just 11 matches of the season to go? Who is it that has allowed almost every single working group and committee walk away from the football club? Who is it that takes almost a full month to post some half-arsed edited minutes on the CFU website for owners to hold them accountable? Who have continuously failed to represent the views of their membership in making the above decisions?
Undoubtedly, Maguire would have had a role in some of the things above - but only an advisory one. It is the board who are responsible for all of the above and for the subsequent mess we are in - we cannot allow them to get away with the damage they are doing to this football club and that begins tomorrow night.
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Post by gezzer on Jan 24, 2018 11:56:05 GMT
TBF if finances are as bad as being rumoured and given his wages his role was the obvious one to go. We cannot make contracted players redundant and given their performances this season, they're hardly queuing to take them off our hands although "every little helps". Uncertain times ahead.
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Post by histsci on Jan 24, 2018 12:01:40 GMT
I'm not delighted that this has happened, but I think that given the board's reasoning it's a good decision. Virtually everyone on here has said they want things to be a bit more like it was when we started, and this to me is the first step in doing that. For too long we've been trying to 'act like a football club', which has meant trying to throw more and more money at the playing budget - this is obviously not going to work when tinpot teams like Solihull can start buying their way out of relegation without having to worry about improving their dreadful ground. Yes we need a good commercial arm, but given the expertise on the board, I'm confident that Maguire's work can be maintained, with lessons learned from his time here, good and bad. As a community club we need to be focused on allowing opportunities for volunteering, and supporting volunteers. If we need to hire anyone, it's a volunteer coordinator, not a CEO.
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Post by alancfc on Jan 24, 2018 12:03:50 GMT
The timing of this is really quite horrendous - regardless of your opinions on Maguire or the necessity for his role, throwing him under the bus the day before tomorrow's CFU meeting is an utterly classless act unbefitting of this football club - yet one which was entirely predictable from our current board. I am actually embarrassed as a fan, and owner, that the board think this is a plausible tactic to deflect the blame which is quite rightly being placed firmly at their doorstep. Lets not forget the real issues here: ( Here's what i'd guess from the rumour's and back chat) Who appointed Maguire? - Simon Ollerenshaw's Board Who appointed McCarthy? - Simon Ollerenshaw's Board Who gave McCarthy a suicidal contract extension? - Simon Ollerenshaw's Board (?) Who is it that didn't set McCarthy any targets at the beginning of the season? - Part of this Board (50% not on all at the time) Who didn't sack McCarthy when they should have? - This Board (well known atleast one wanted out much much earlier) Who allowed every single penny of the Sam Hughes money to be pissed away on the playing budget? - This Board // Finance Director (?) Who makes promises in their election manifestos which they completely fail to deliver? - All Who is it that marketed a Cestrian 10 season ticket with just 11 matches of the season to go? - MM Who is it that has allowed almost every single working group and committee walk away from the football club? - This Board and Probably the last couple haven't helped Who is it that takes almost a full month to post some half-arsed edited minutes on the CFU website for owners to hold them accountable? - Secretary (?) Who have continuously failed to represent the views of their membership in making the above decisions? - Some but not all of the this Board Undoubtedly, Maguire would have had a role in some of the things above - but only an advisory one. It is the board who are responsible for all of the above and for the subsequent mess we are in - we cannot allow them to get away with the damage they are doing to this football club and that begins tomorrow night.
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Jan 24, 2018 12:08:18 GMT
The board beep backing the wrong horses. They're a shambles.
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Post by gezzer on Jan 24, 2018 12:09:30 GMT
The timing of this is really quite horrendous - regardless of your opinions on Maguire or the necessity for his role, throwing him under the bus the day before tomorrow's CFU meeting is an utterly classless act unbefitting of this football club - yet one which was entirely predictable from our current board. I am actually embarrassed as a fan, and owner, that the board think this is a plausible tactic to deflect the blame which is quite rightly being placed firmly at their doorstep. Lets not forget the real issues here: Who appointed Maguire? The Board Who appointed McCarthy? The Board Who gave McCarthy a suicidal contract extension? The Board Who is it that didn't set McCarthy any targets at the beginning of the season? The Board Who didn't sack McCarthy when they should have? The Board Who allowed every single penny of the Sam Hughes money to be pissed away on the playing budget? The Board Who makes promises in their election manifestos which they completely fail to deliver? The Board Who is it that marketed a Cestrian 10 season ticket with just 11 matches of the season to go? JH Responsible for Marketing Who is it that has allowed almost every single working group and committee walk away from the football club? The Board Who is it that takes almost a full month to post some half-arsed edited minutes on the CFU website for owners to hold them accountable? MN? Who have continuously failed to represent the views of their membership in making the above decisions? The Board Undoubtedly, Maguire would have had a role in some of the things above - but only an advisory one. It is the board who are responsible for all of the above and for the subsequent mess we are in - we cannot allow them to get away with the damage they are doing to this football club and that begins tomorrow night. Or substitute all these answers for YOU the CFU membership for re-electing most of the Board just a few months ago even though (barring Cestrian 10) all your questions were relevant then
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Post by jb on Jan 24, 2018 12:11:00 GMT
Not leaving until April. I still have reservations about the remainder of the article ie Working groups announcement in a few weeks, already been a few weeks, whiff of the old saying "Fiddling while Rome is burning" but have to remain positive! I take it that his contract has a three month notice period. Has he resigned or is it another one that we will have pay off?
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Post by Pseudoscally on Jan 24, 2018 12:15:07 GMT
I personally welcome this news but worry about any conflicts in leaving him in position until April?
Obviously he will have a notice period that will need to be paid but surely it would be prudent to remove him immediately.
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Post by rcb on Jan 24, 2018 12:19:09 GMT
Not leaving until April. I still have reservations about the remainder of the article ie Working groups announcement in a few weeks, already been a few weeks, whiff of the old saying "Fiddling while Rome is burning" but have to remain positive! I take it that his contract has a three month notice period. Has he resigned or is it another one that we will have pay off? Regardless of notice period, where significant financial roles are concerned, he needs to have handed in his keys, emptied his office, and left the premises by now. All hopefully at no cost to the club. I also hope that a phone call has already been made to Graham Barrow, and a garden spade bought for Bignot.
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Post by yossergolf on Jan 24, 2018 12:21:56 GMT
Many will be very happy with this news but the underlying issue that has led to this is a lack of finances within the club. I would suggest that there has been a positive benefit from his time and benefits that cannot be costed. The lack of finance is mainly due to the dross that is served up, called football!!, on the pitch. At the start it was all new and many fans attended as a result, but the glosshas gone and was evident after around 2 years. Going forward we have to accept that finances will be tight, and that we may only exist at conference North level with the odd good cup run. To sustain conference level and our model will be virtually impossible. Unless we at least double current attendances then that is where we will exist.
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Post by Matt on Jan 24, 2018 12:23:22 GMT
If he's not there tomorrow, that's a guilty man running. He should be there he's employed until April.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jan 24, 2018 12:32:23 GMT
The timing of this is really quite horrendous - regardless of your opinions on Maguire or the necessity for his role, throwing him under the bus the day before tomorrow's CFU meeting is an utterly classless act unbefitting of this football club - yet one which was entirely predictable from our current board. I am actually embarrassed as a fan, and owner, that the board think this is a plausible tactic to deflect the blame which is quite rightly being placed firmly at their doorstep. Lets not forget the real issues here: Who appointed Maguire? The Board Who appointed McCarthy? The Board Who gave McCarthy a suicidal contract extension? The Board Who is it that didn't set McCarthy any targets at the beginning of the season? The Board Who didn't sack McCarthy when they should have? The Board Who allowed every single penny of the Sam Hughes money to be pissed away on the playing budget? The Board Who makes promises in their election manifestos which they completely fail to deliver? The Board Who is it that marketed a Cestrian 10 season ticket with just 11 matches of the season to go? JH Responsible for Marketing Who is it that has allowed almost every single working group and committee walk away from the football club? The Board Who is it that takes almost a full month to post some half-arsed edited minutes on the CFU website for owners to hold them accountable? MN? Who have continuously failed to represent the views of their membership in making the above decisions? The Board Undoubtedly, Maguire would have had a role in some of the things above - but only an advisory one. It is the board who are responsible for all of the above and for the subsequent mess we are in - we cannot allow them to get away with the damage they are doing to this football club and that begins tomorrow night. Or substitute all these answers for YOU the CFU membership for re-electing most of the Board just a few months ago even though (barring Cestrian 10) all your questions were relevant then Can't argue with that and it needs to change - we need to hold the board more accountable and that has to start tomorrow evening.
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Post by paulie on Jan 24, 2018 12:38:52 GMT
Dmcnally will be inconsolable this afternoon.
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Post by The Angry Agenda on Jan 24, 2018 12:41:04 GMT
Not leaving until April. I still have reservations about the remainder of the article ie Working groups announcement in a few weeks, already been a few weeks, whiff of the old saying "Fiddling while Rome is burning" but have to remain positive! I take it that his contract has a three month notice period. Has he resigned or is it another one that we will have pay off? CLUB STATEMENT Over the last few weeks the Board, along with a number of key stakeholders, have been reviewing the way that City Fans United and Chester Football Club operate from a business perspective in what is currently a difficult and challenging commercial environment. The outcome of these conversations have led to a refocussing on the volunteer values and ethos associated with our founding years as a fan owned football club. Therefore the board has decided that volunteers and working groups should take up a more active role Associated with this review, and the subsequent impact on operations, the decision has been made by the board to make the role of Chief Executive Officer, occupied by Mark Maguire, redundant. As with all such situations the club will follow the correct legal and contractual processes and will part on the best of terms with Mark Maguire in April 2018. The Board would like to acknowledge the significant work and contribution Mark has made to the Club since 2016, in particular his professionalism and development of close working relationships with a number of strategic partners. As the Club now re-focusses back on to the values and ethos that makes us unique, a number of new working groups will be launched and communicated to all in the coming weeks to support this process.
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Post by dmcnally on Jan 24, 2018 12:46:53 GMT
Dmcnally will be inconsolable this afternoon. Thanks for spending time in your day to think of someone on an Internet forum
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Post by happyclapper on Jan 24, 2018 12:49:59 GMT
Not leaving until April. I still have reservations about the remainder of the article ie Working groups announcement in a few weeks, already been a few weeks, whiff of the old saying "Fiddling while Rome is burning" but have to remain positive! I take it that his contract has a three month notice period. Has he resigned or is it another one that we will have pay off? He's been made redundant so he's obviously working his notice period and then will be entitled to a week and a halves pay for each full year of service at the end of it.
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Post by billyw on Jan 24, 2018 12:50:07 GMT
Not leaving until April. I still have reservations about the remainder of the article ie Working groups announcement in a few weeks, already been a few weeks, whiff of the old saying "Fiddling while Rome is burning" but have to remain positive! I take it that his contract has a three month notice period. Has he resigned or is it another one that we will have pay off? He is being made redundant so no contract to pay off.
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Post by paulie on Jan 24, 2018 12:50:52 GMT
Dmcnally will be inconsolable this afternoon. Thanks for spending time in your day to think of someone on an Internet forum No problem, Thoughts and prayers with you today.
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Post by dmcnally on Jan 24, 2018 12:52:21 GMT
Thanks for spending time in your day to think of someone on an Internet forum No problem, Thoughts and prayers with you today. Grow up
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Post by poolepirate on Jan 24, 2018 12:54:32 GMT
MM did not appear to follow the ethos of a fan owned club he lost the respect of the fans he promised alot delivered some of it but stopped communicating with fans by not replying to emails i sensed he was given too much up front responsibility for communication,he seemed to be the only person at the club who had a voice which cant he healthy going forward we need a full time employee to do some of the duties currently done by the CEO but not on the sort of wages mentioned he was getting(figures quoted true or not)
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Post by dmcnally on Jan 24, 2018 13:07:27 GMT
MM did not appear to follow the ethos of a fan owned club he lost the respect of the fans he promised alot delivered some of it but stopped communicating with fans by not replying to emails i sensed he was given too much up front responsibility for communication,he seemed to be the only person at the club who had a voice which cant he healthy going forward we need a full time employee to do some of the duties currently done by the CEO but not on the sort of wages mentioned he was getting(figures quoted true or not) You just contradicted yourself. Stopped communicating with fans but then go on to say he was he only one with a voice. Appears the club want to go back to an even more ameteur setup by having volunteers doing his job. A volunteer trying to tie up a major sponsorship deal. How would you feel as a large business meeting up with a bunch of volunteers to discuss a sponsorship, as opposed to a professional businessman?
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