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Post by Lobster on May 10, 2018 16:13:14 GMT
Has anyone thought that maybe he’s just someone with a certain metabolism who finds it hard to shift weight? The idea that he just sits about eating chippy teas is ludicrous, it’s not like he’s a lazy slob on the pitch. At 6’4” and being of a big build, it’s hard to look that athletic. He may even have an eating disorder for all we know. People are way too quick to take the piss. If you do enough cardio you'll lose weight coupled with a healthy and balanced diet. Maybe. I don’t judge him myself, if I thought he ambled about on the pitch or had a bad attitude I might think differently. I think Big Si has summed it up - we ain’t gonna get anyone better.
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Post by Al on May 10, 2018 16:21:29 GMT
If you do enough cardio you'll lose weight coupled with a healthy and balanced diet. Maybe. I don’t judge him myself, if I thought he ambled about on the pitch or had a bad attitude I might think differently. I think Big Si has summed it up - we ain’t gonna get anyone better. Don't know that until a new man comes in and starts making signings. There must be loads of young centre backs out there playing at a similar level to what Ryan was when we signed him. Just need someone who has a bit more mobility about them coupled with an experience conference North centre back I'd look at the situation with Shaun Hobson over the summer, if he's released by Bournemouth he would definitely be worth a call
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Post by happyclapper52 on May 10, 2018 16:24:22 GMT
I just find it sad that young lad with 100% attitude couldn't see or want to see how losing weight could improve his performances considerably and lead to greater opportunity ? I compare him potentially im attitide to the likes of George Horan,Trevor Storton,Reg Mathewson, Coling Greenall, Mark Came, Martin Lane, Chris Lightfoot and Pal Linwood Shame 😞
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Post by jb on May 10, 2018 16:52:55 GMT
Think he deserved more respect than he gets from some of our fans. A 100%-er certainly who is pretty decent with a mobile centre half alongside him. I think respect has to be earned in whatever profession you work in. By coming back from the summer break three or four stone heavier he lost a lot of respect from fans. The last six months have seen his lack of mobility badly exposed and I’ve seen his head go down in games which wasn’t like when he first arrived. Having seen Hughes and Heneghan progress up the leagues I’d have thought he would’ve wanted to get himself in peak physical condition to go the same way. Instead he’s ended up at a dead end club with that idiot McCarthy. Anyway I hope he gets his career back on track because he deserves better than Southport.
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Post by martinblue47 on May 10, 2018 16:59:57 GMT
Good luck Ryan and thank you
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Post by paulie on May 10, 2018 17:09:22 GMT
Has anyone thought that maybe he’s just someone with a certain metabolism who finds it hard to shift weight? The idea that he just sits about eating chippy teas is ludicrous, it’s not like he’s a lazy slob on the pitch. At 6’4” and being of a big build, it’s hard to look that athletic. He may even have an eating disorder for all we know. People are way too quick to take the piss. There is no excuse for a professional sportsman to be in that condition, we have/had a nutritionist at the club who could easily have got his metabolism burning that cargo he was carrying around. Qualified coaches who could easily have got him on a proper training programme in the gym. As Al said further up the thread, there is a very good player hidden away in all that fat. The lad is not doing himself any justice, he could be playing for a lot bigger clubs than southport.
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Post by Jack on May 10, 2018 17:16:34 GMT
Good player, with a potential to be a great player. No problem with his decision to go, but to go to Southport is a lazy move.
Sadly, I think he knows that with McCarthy on board there, he'll be allowed to do (and eat) what he wants and that's an easier option. I think it probably points to Ryan's mentality being one of happy as he is. That is a shame, because as a left footed centre half who can actually play football, he could have become a football league player with no doubt.
Best of luck to him, he always gave us his all.
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Post by agl on May 10, 2018 17:35:43 GMT
Always been a big fan of Ryan, so wish him luck even if this does seem a bit of a strange move (two year deal sealed it I suppose). No doubt he has the quality - great in the air and can pass the ball out. His lack of pace will hold him back but no reason why he can't play league football if he gets himself in better shape. Easily been our best player over the past two seasons and feel a bit sorry for him that all the turmoil set him back. The equaliser at Tranmere and the knee slide celebration will forever live in my mind. All the best Ryan.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2018 17:49:45 GMT
Deal was complete before the season had finished
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Post by Lobster on May 10, 2018 18:05:25 GMT
Think he deserved more respect than he gets from some of our fans. A 100%-er certainly who is pretty decent with a mobile centre half alongside him. I think respect has to be earned in whatever profession you work in. By coming back from the summer break three or four stone heavier he lost a lot of respect from fans. The last six months have seen his lack of mobility badly exposed and I’ve seen his head go down in games which wasn’t like when he first arrived. Having seen Hughes and Heneghan progress up the leagues I’d have thought he would’ve wanted to get himself in peak physical condition to go the same way. Instead he’s ended up at a dead end club with that idiot McCarthy. Anyway I hope he gets his career back on track because he deserves better than Southport. He played against Wrexham with a broken foot. I’d say that in itself deserves respect.
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Post by Al on May 10, 2018 18:10:25 GMT
Has anyone thought that maybe he’s just someone with a certain metabolism who finds it hard to shift weight? The idea that he just sits about eating chippy teas is ludicrous, it’s not like he’s a lazy slob on the pitch. At 6’4” and being of a big build, it’s hard to look that athletic. He may even have an eating disorder for all we know. People are way too quick to take the piss. There is no excuse for a professional sportsman to be in that condition, we have/had a nutritionist at the club who could easily have got his metabolism burning that cargo he was carrying around. Qualified coaches who could easily have got him on a proper training programme in the gym. As Al said further up the thread, there is a very good player hidden away in all that fat. The lad is not doing himself any justice, he could be playing for a lot bigger clubs than southport. Doesn't even need a nutritionist just needed him to join a slimming world group and start working with the personal trainers in the gym. He'd have shifted a good stone within a month or two.
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Post by bonecrusher on May 10, 2018 18:36:10 GMT
Judging by what I’ve been reading on here, I must be one of a small minority who is sad to see Ryan leave. Some of the abuse that has been publicised on here has been absolutely ridiculous towards someone who has run through brick walls for us. Maybe he is over weight, but a fair few of our slimmer players haven’t performed as well as Ryan have they? I think that he will turn out to be a big miss for us unless we sign another tough defender. How many players other than Ryan have carried on playing with several stitches in local derbies, along with various other injuries? That is the definition of a committed footballer to me, rather than the current Prima Donna’s of the Premier League who seem to go down all the time. In my opinion I’m rather gutted that he has signed for a fellow National North team in Southport. It’s a sideways move really and I would’ve thought that he would sign for someone in the National League because of our relegation. He’s still a young player though and definitely has the potential to make it into the EFL one day. If he does lose a bit of weight then he will turn into a better player, but he already is good. As I say, the abuse by some on here has been totally unfair towards Ryan, and I hope this move turns out well for him. Thanks for the memories, especially the 2 goals against Tranmere. Good luck for the rest of your career Ryan Astles! Love the fact you are now liking your own posts Rio. 'if he loses weight' Why cant he be arsed to do it for Chester?
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Post by Rio Doherty on May 10, 2018 18:39:59 GMT
Judging by what I’ve been reading on here, I must be one of a small minority who is sad to see Ryan leave. Some of the abuse that has been publicised on here has been absolutely ridiculous towards someone who has run through brick walls for us. Maybe he is over weight, but a fair few of our slimmer players haven’t performed as well as Ryan have they? I think that he will turn out to be a big miss for us unless we sign another tough defender. How many players other than Ryan have carried on playing with several stitches in local derbies, along with various other injuries? That is the definition of a committed footballer to me, rather than the current Prima Donna’s of the Premier League who seem to go down all the time. In my opinion I’m rather gutted that he has signed for a fellow National North team in Southport. It’s a sideways move really and I would’ve thought that he would sign for someone in the National League because of our relegation. He’s still a young player though and definitely has the potential to make it into the EFL one day. If he does lose a bit of weight then he will turn into a better player, but he already is good. As I say, the abuse by some on here has been totally unfair towards Ryan, and I hope this move turns out well for him. Thanks for the memories, especially the 2 goals against Tranmere. Good luck for the rest of your career Ryan Astles! Love the fact you are now liking your own posts Rio. 'if he loses weight' Why cant he be arsed to do it for Chester? Sorry, didn’t realise I liked my post. I must’ve pressed it accidentally whilst scrolling down the page lol. Anyway, as Lobster said on this thread he may have a metabolic problem that we just don’t know about.
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Post by sqzl on May 10, 2018 23:01:49 GMT
Feel like we've all been saying "if" he loses weight he'll be a great player for far too long. I've questioned his ambition in the past and nothing has changed my mind on that.
Regardless I wish him the best and hope he has one of his flat footed can't run games against us twice next season. Sign a pacey striker and he's leaving him for dead 😂
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Post by South Wirral Blue on May 11, 2018 6:06:11 GMT
I may be way off here but I found it a bit disrespectful to the rest of the team when I saw the shape he came back in after the break last year.
Maybe the prospect of playing under McCarthy for another year drove him to eat - it certainly drove me to drink at times.
Really like the lad and I'll never forget Tranmere but I'm not as concerned to lose him as I may have been 12 months ago.
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Post by jb on May 11, 2018 10:34:46 GMT
I think respect has to be earned in whatever profession you work in. By coming back from the summer break three or four stone heavier he lost a lot of respect from fans. The last six months have seen his lack of mobility badly exposed and I’ve seen his head go down in games which wasn’t like when he first arrived. Having seen Hughes and Heneghan progress up the leagues I’d have thought he would’ve wanted to get himself in peak physical condition to go the same way. Instead he’s ended up at a dead end club with that idiot McCarthy. Anyway I hope he gets his career back on track because he deserves better than Southport. He played against Wrexham with a broken foot. I’d say that in itself deserves respect. I agree that certainly deserves respect. No doubting his bravery as he was always willing to put himself on the line for the cause. However, the lack of fitness and very poor performances towards the end of the season made me lose a lot of respect for him. Maybe it was the fact that he knew he was going that led to the lack of intensity that we had seen from him in previous seasons. 12 months ago I would have been gutted to see him leave but the more and more this season has gone on I'm not too bothered about his departure. I think we can find a much more mobile centre back in the summer. Hobson was different class to him towards the end of the season and bailed him out on several occasions and if somehow we can get someone like him (Hobson) in then Astles' departure will not be as big a blow as some other posters feel it will be.
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Post by Hannibal on May 11, 2018 11:34:02 GMT
I never realised that our fanbase contained so many nutritionist and dietary experts.
Perhaps we could raise money for the club by having our own slimming sessions.
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Post by cfcforme on May 11, 2018 12:00:44 GMT
I never realised that our fanbase contained so many nutritionist and dietary experts. Perhaps we could raise money for the club by having our own slimming sessions. Don't have to be a nutritionist and dietary expert to know when someone is overweight...
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Post by sqzl on May 11, 2018 12:57:45 GMT
I never realised that our fanbase contained so many nutritionist and dietary experts. Perhaps we could raise money for the club by having our own slimming sessions. Similar to when the election comes around and i have about 500 politicians on my facebook timeline. Difference is it's far easier to tell when someones eating sh*t to talking sh*t.
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Post by Al on May 11, 2018 13:14:20 GMT
I never realised that our fanbase contained so many nutritionist and dietary experts. Perhaps we could raise money for the club by having our own slimming sessions. Not really an "expert" but I try and stay as fit as I possibly can. I'm in the gym at least 3 times a week, cycle at least 80miles per week, and do the odd run or two inbetween. You might catch me running the City Walls on my lunch occasionally.
I used Slimming World as an example to be honest. I've got family who have lost a serious amount of weight over the last few years following that as an example. Low fat/no fat foods, high protein, low in carbs, cut out the white bread (brown only) wholewheat pasta and brown rice and lots of veg, add that in with a proper exercise program and he'd soon shift that excess.
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Post by sqzl on May 11, 2018 13:46:22 GMT
I never realised that our fanbase contained so many nutritionist and dietary experts. Perhaps we could raise money for the club by having our own slimming sessions. Not really an "expert" but I try and stay as fit as I possibly can. I'm in the gym at least 3 times a week, cycle at least 80miles per week, and do the odd run or two inbetween. You might catch me running the City Walls on my lunch occasionally.
I used Slimming World as an example to be honest. I've got family who have lost a serious amount of weight over the last few years following that as an example. Low fat/no fat foods, high protein, low in carbs, cut out the white bread (brown only) wholewheat pasta and brown rice and lots of veg, add that in with a proper exercise program and he'd soon shift that excess.
I lost 2st on Slimming World, felt a total wally going as no blokes go but in fairness it does work. I wouldn't say i was super fat, BMI wise i would have been in the 'overweight' section though. Started gym a month ago, shed another stone and now i'm just within healthy range, so if a 'sit at the desk all day for work' person can do it, no reason a sports person cant! Anyone else care to share their weight loss story? We can have DC Slimmer of the month?
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Post by Hannibal on May 11, 2018 14:31:03 GMT
Well ... I weighed 10 stone until I was 50, but have weighed over 13 stone at times over the past 5 to 10 years and at 5' 8" that gave me a BMI of 30 which is obese although I never felt obese. In 2011 I came back from a month's visiting a mate in Thailand at nearly 13 and a half stone after regular Italian food and loads of cake almost every night.
I go to the gym at least 3 times a week and do Body Pump, Aqua Aerobics, Circuits, Swimming and Spin. About 18 months ago I decided to drink tea without sugar, eat rye bread and houmous for lunch with natural yoghurt and fruit and cut out the crisps, biscuits, chocolate and cake and I went down to 11 stone. Over the past 6 months I've relaxed the strictness and have gone back to 12 stone 7lbs. There are lots of reasons why people put on weight. I don't know the reason why Ryan Astles appears to be overweight, but at 24 and with the right guidance and fitness regime he should lose weight, but there may be other reasons why his weight is as it is. I wish him well at Southport and just hope we can get someone to replace him with half his commitment.
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Post by Si on May 11, 2018 14:54:16 GMT
I've shifted a bit of weight over the last couple of years. I play squash on average 3 times a week and try and do a few daily exercises for the core muscles. I altered my diet, started having most of my evening meals during the week from the Bodycoach recipe books and that's when I noticed a bit coming off. The difficult part is keeping it off, especially at this time of the year when I like a beer in the garden etc.
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Post by rcb on May 11, 2018 17:34:40 GMT
Heart of a lion and full of passion without doubt. Great header of the ball, and shows good vision, together with an ability to get forward and score goals. Many excellent attributes, but adding heavy duty links to a chain doesn’t strengthen it, unless the weak link is removed. Being overweight, positionally poor and one paced is a significant weak link in my opinion.
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Post by devavictrix on May 11, 2018 18:51:10 GMT
I never realised that our fanbase contained so many nutritionist and dietary experts. Perhaps we could raise money for the club by having our own slimming sessions. Not really an "expert" but I try and stay as fit as I possibly can. I'm in the gym at least 3 times a week, cycle at least 80miles per week, and do the odd run or two inbetween. You might catch me running the City Walls on my lunch occasionally.
I used Slimming World as an example to be honest. I've got family who have lost a serious amount of weight over the last few years following that as an example. Low fat/no fat foods, high protein, low in carbs, cut out the white bread (brown only) wholewheat pasta and brown rice and lots of veg, add that in with a proper exercise program and he'd soon shift that excess.
A low carbohydrate diet would have a negative effect on an athletes sporting performance.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on May 11, 2018 18:52:58 GMT
I'm currently on an all-inclusive fortnight in Turkey, increasing my waistline by the second, and I don't care.
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Post by Al on May 11, 2018 19:03:10 GMT
Not really an "expert" but I try and stay as fit as I possibly can. I'm in the gym at least 3 times a week, cycle at least 80miles per week, and do the odd run or two inbetween. You might catch me running the City Walls on my lunch occasionally.
I used Slimming World as an example to be honest. I've got family who have lost a serious amount of weight over the last few years following that as an example. Low fat/no fat foods, high protein, low in carbs, cut out the white bread (brown only) wholewheat pasta and brown rice and lots of veg, add that in with a proper exercise program and he'd soon shift that excess.
A low carbohydrate diet would have a negative effect on an athletes sporting performance. Like I say though, brown rice, wholewheat pasta, wholewheat bread, sweet potatoes. Maybe I should have said better types of carbs.
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Post by whopper1 on May 11, 2018 21:47:15 GMT
I'm currently on an all-inclusive fortnight in Turkey, increasing my waistline by the second, and I don't care. we don't care either
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Post by rcb on May 11, 2018 22:27:31 GMT
Not really an "expert" but I try and stay as fit as I possibly can. I'm in the gym at least 3 times a week, cycle at least 80miles per week, and do the odd run or two inbetween. You might catch me running the City Walls on my lunch occasionally.
I used Slimming World as an example to be honest. I've got family who have lost a serious amount of weight over the last few years following that as an example. Low fat/no fat foods, high protein, low in carbs, cut out the white bread (brown only) wholewheat pasta and brown rice and lots of veg, add that in with a proper exercise program and he'd soon shift that excess.
A low carbohydrate diet would have a negative effect on an athletes sporting performance. Nonsense. Until he shifts the weight a low carb diet is a necessity. Until then he remains a moderately gifted fat lad trying to be an athlete!
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on May 12, 2018 3:11:31 GMT
I'm currently on an all-inclusive fortnight in Turkey, increasing my waistline by the second, and I don't care. we don't care either This thread had evolved into a Slimming World meet and greet session, so I thought I'd offer up my story.
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