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Post by muzzy on May 11, 2018 18:05:35 GMT
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Post by Oaks Blue on May 11, 2018 18:22:36 GMT
You mean you really do hope that it attracts some of our staff because you're a Wrexham fan?
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Post by ivawhopper on May 11, 2018 21:29:07 GMT
Bloody goaty boys
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Post by muzzy on May 12, 2018 6:25:23 GMT
Sometimes you do not realise what you have got untill its gone is the point i was making.
We have some very good Academy staff as we know.
I will ignore the insult by the way.
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Post by Matt on May 17, 2018 7:17:33 GMT
Very much a backwards step with the players we’ve got coming through. Next wum please.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 10:58:32 GMT
Maybe not Wrexham, but other clubs will definitely have taken notice of his ability at developing players, and also his tactical nous and game management skills. Do not be surprised if he hasn't already been spoken to by other clubs, or applied for other roles. He is like the rest of us, has bills to pay etc.
CFC should be protecting the investment made in the academy now by ensuring Calum signs a new contract, rather than risk losing him to another club.
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Post by Al on May 17, 2018 11:01:47 GMT
Maybe not Wrexham, but other clubs will definitely have taken notice of his ability at developing players, and also his tactical nous and game management skills. Do not be surprised if he hasn't already been spoken to by other clubs, or applied for other roles. He is like the rest of us, has bills to pay etc. CFC should be protecting the investment made in the academy now by ensuring Calum signs a new contract, rather than risk losing him to another club. Spot on. |
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Post by paulinem on May 18, 2018 0:15:23 GMT
Maybe not Wrexham, but other clubs will definitely have taken notice of his ability at developing players, and also his tactical nous and game management skills. Do not be surprised if he hasn't already been spoken to by other clubs, or applied for other roles. He is like the rest of us, has bills to pay etc. CFC should be protecting the investment made in the academy now by ensuring Calum signs a new contract, rather than risk losing him to another club. And so say all of us! He must not be allowed to escape! |
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Post by hackett on May 18, 2018 7:58:11 GMT
Maybe not Wrexham, but other clubs will definitely have taken notice of his ability at developing players, and also his tactical nous and game management skills. Do not be surprised if he hasn't already been spoken to by other clubs, or applied for other roles. He is like the rest of us, has bills to pay etc. CFC should be protecting the investment made in the academy now by ensuring Calum signs a new contract, rather than risk losing him to another club. How does that work then considering he isn't under any sort of contract and the sponsors pay his wage? |
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on May 18, 2018 8:29:59 GMT
You've contradicted yourself there.
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Post by Imperial on May 18, 2018 8:56:28 GMT
Maybe not Wrexham, but other clubs will definitely have taken notice of his ability at developing players, and also his tactical nous and game management skills. Do not be surprised if he hasn't already been spoken to by other clubs, or applied for other roles. He is like the rest of us, has bills to pay etc. CFC should be protecting the investment made in the academy now by ensuring Calum signs a new contract, rather than risk losing him to another club. How does that work then considering he isn't under any sort of contract and the sponsors pay his wage? They can presumably get him contracted though regardless of who is footing the bill for his wages. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2018 10:55:30 GMT
Maybe not Wrexham, but other clubs will definitely have taken notice of his ability at developing players, and also his tactical nous and game management skills. Do not be surprised if he hasn't already been spoken to by other clubs, or applied for other roles. He is like the rest of us, has bills to pay etc. CFC should be protecting the investment made in the academy now by ensuring Calum signs a new contract, rather than risk losing him to another club. How does that work then considering he isn't under any sort of contract and the sponsors pay his wage? He will have an employment contract, regardless of who is paying him, but I don't know how the details. I am also unsure if the sponsors are paying his salary if I am being honest. Calum is a real asset, and we should be protecting our assets. |
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Post by Churton Blue on May 18, 2018 11:50:11 GMT
How does that work then considering he isn't under any sort of contract and the sponsors pay his wage? He will have an employment contract, regardless of who is paying him, but I don't know how the details. I am also unsure if the sponsors are paying his salary if I am being honest. Calum is a real asset, and we should be protecting our assets.I 100% agree. Coaching and managerial talent is equally if not more important than player talent. |
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Post by haloharry69 on May 21, 2018 19:16:03 GMT
As I understand it, Swettenhams Chemist are paying Calum’s Salary...question is, will this happen again this year, or will we need to find it out of the playing budget...
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Post by dmcnally on May 22, 2018 9:24:54 GMT
Calum could be off. He tweeted this yesterday.
So many incredible people involved, particularly this year's Youth Team + our Academy Graduates who have flown the flag in first team.
We've never been given anything for nothing. We did things right.
Great seven years. You know who you are, thanks for everything ⚽️🏆🔵
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Post by Matt on May 22, 2018 9:36:42 GMT
Calum could be off. He tweeted this yesterday. So many incredible people involved, particularly this year's Youth Team + our Academy Graduates who have flown the flag in first team. We've never been given anything for nothing. We did things right. Great seven years. You know who you are, thanks for everything ⚽️🏆🔵 Noticed that but I think it's because he'll be more involved with the first team, don't forget Calum is a massive Chester fan I think it'll take a lot for him to move away |
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Post by rjshbdhmtrm on May 22, 2018 9:38:41 GMT
That’s disturbing reading, but at the same time if another club came in for him with a larger pay packet, then you couldn’t blame him for moving on. Clearly, the work he has done this past few years hasn’t gone unnoticed.
Hope I’m reading between the lines incorrectly.
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Post by Harry Lime on May 22, 2018 9:55:45 GMT
Calum could be off. He tweeted this yesterday. So many incredible people involved, particularly this year's Youth Team + our Academy Graduates who have flown the flag in first team. We've never been given anything for nothing. We did things right. Great seven years. You know who you are, thanks for everything ⚽️🏆🔵 Noticed that but I think it's because he'll be more involved with the first team, don't forget Calum is a massive Chester fan I think it'll take a lot for him to move away Really hope I'm wrong, but I'd say he's off to better things, based on that tweet. If he'd been a player that had done that well, we'd expect them to get a move to a bigger club. Good youth development coaches are difficult to find. One's with a track record, even more rare. With success comes higher profile. Gutted but not surprised if this is true. We'd be naive to think otherwise. |
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Post by Matt on May 22, 2018 10:00:34 GMT
Noticed that but I think it's because he'll be more involved with the first team, don't forget Calum is a massive Chester fan I think it'll take a lot for him to move away Really hope I'm wrong, but I'd say he's off to better things, based on that tweet. If he'd been a player that had done that well, we'd expect them to get a move to a bigger club. Good youth development coaches are difficult to find. One's with a track record, even more rare. With success comes higher profile. Gutted but not surprised if this is true. We'd be naive to think otherwise. True, I don't blame him if he wants to move on especially to a team in the EFL. Many things available to him there which would benefit him for the future. |
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Post by paulie on May 22, 2018 10:18:21 GMT
Calum could be off. He tweeted this yesterday. So many incredible people involved, particularly this year's Youth Team + our Academy Graduates who have flown the flag in first team. We've never been given anything for nothing. We did things right. Great seven years. You know who you are, thanks for everything ⚽️🏆🔵 Noticed that but I think it's because he'll be more involved with the first team, don't forget Calum is a massive Chester fan I think it'll take a lot for him to move away Fan or not, if I was Callum and somebody offered me more money/slash better contract I would be off like a shot. Its his job at the end of the day, so you go where the money and opportunities lie. |
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Post by rcm on May 22, 2018 10:25:12 GMT
Really hope I'm wrong, but I'd say he's off to better things, based on that tweet. If he'd been a player that had done that well, we'd expect them to get a move to a bigger club. Good youth development coaches are difficult to find. One's with a track record, even more rare. With success comes higher profile. Gutted but not surprised if this is true. We'd be naive to think otherwise. True, I don't blame him if he wants to move on especially to a team in the EFL. Many things available to him there which would benefit him for the future. I am sure as a young man making his way in life money will become a bigger part of the package.if he does leave then who ever takes over will have a good structure to work with that he leaves behind,Paul Reed is a good guy who could do this but with the scholar program it may be more than a volunteer who is needed. |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 10:41:59 GMT
I know Calum would only ever leave Chester as a last resort. It is his hometown club, what he has achieved has contributed massively to the survival and hopefully regeneration of the club.
What he cannot do is pay his bills with praise. The club should be not be dragging their feet in looking to remunerate him according to his ability to develop players year after year. I really hope that those on the board who are dealing with this don't allow someone to come in and offer him better.
I just hope we dont end up with Calum running the academy at Fylde (taking with him our best u18s...) and we end up having nice guy Jim Harvey running the academy next year...
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Post by Matt on May 22, 2018 10:48:50 GMT
I know Calum would only ever leave Chester as a last resort. It is his hometown club, what he has achieved has contributed massively to the survival and hopefully regeneration of the club. What he cannot do is pay his bills with praise. The club should be not be dragging their feet in looking to remunerate him according to his ability to develop players year after year. I really hope that those on the board who are dealing with this don't allow someone to come in and offer him better. I just hope we dont end up with Calum running the academy at Fylde (taking with him our best u18s...) and we end up having nice guy Jim Harvey running the academy next year... I know we have a lot of recrutiment to do but I think this is a priority, get him on a decent deal, he deserves it, surley this is one thing the investment would be for. |
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Post by midfieldgeneral on May 22, 2018 10:54:36 GMT
I know Calum would only ever leave Chester as a last resort. It is his hometown club, what he has achieved has contributed massively to the survival and hopefully regeneration of the club. What he cannot do is pay his bills with praise. The club should be not be dragging their feet in looking to remunerate him according to his ability to develop players year after year. I really hope that those on the board who are dealing with this don't allow someone to come in and offer him better. I just hope we dont end up with Calum running the academy at Fylde (taking with him our best u18s...) and we end up having nice guy Jim Harvey running the academy next year... Absolutely. spot on. Calum's salary would be self financing via the sale of academy players. Its a no brainer. Get the contract offer out now! |
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Post by Harry Lime on May 22, 2018 11:17:45 GMT
I know Calum would only ever leave Chester as a last resort. It is his hometown club, what he has achieved has contributed massively to the survival and hopefully regeneration of the club. What he cannot do is pay his bills with praise. The club should be not be dragging their feet in looking to remunerate him according to his ability to develop players year after year. I really hope that those on the board who are dealing with this don't allow someone to come in and offer him better. I just hope we dont end up with Calum running the academy at Fylde (taking with him our best u18s...) and we end up having nice guy Jim Harvey running the academy next year... This. Between the club, Swetenham and us we should be able to offer him something worthwhile. Maybe with a percentage of any transfer fees received from his academy graduates. ?? |
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Post by midfieldgeneral on May 22, 2018 11:44:09 GMT
That was the deal Dario Gradi had with Crewe. He was on a percentage of academy sales.
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Post by rcm on May 22, 2018 14:46:23 GMT
I know Calum would only ever leave Chester as a last resort. It is his hometown club, what he has achieved has contributed massively to the survival and hopefully regeneration of the club. What he cannot do is pay his bills with praise. The club should be not be dragging their feet in looking to remunerate him according to his ability to develop players year after year. I really hope that those on the board who are dealing with this don't allow someone to come in and offer him better. I just hope we dont end up with Calum running the academy at Fylde (taking with him our best u18s...) and we end up having nice guy Jim Harvey running the academy next year... This. Between the club, Swetenham and us we should be able to offer him something worthwhile. Maybe with a percentage of any transfer fees received from his academy graduates. ?? What is the going rate for this type of role at League 2 and below levels,is it we could contribute to that is ring fenced? |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 15:34:41 GMT
Wrexham previous Head of Academy (role currently out for recruitment) was £32k per year.
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Post by rcm on May 22, 2018 16:45:48 GMT
Wrexham previous Head of Academy (role currently out for recruitment) was £32k per year. Thanks Mark, hopefully the club can agree something with him that allows him to be paid a salary he is happy with.Does the club get any income for running a scholars program and is Cal paid for that? |
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Post by paulinem on May 22, 2018 17:14:01 GMT
I really hope the Board are seriously looking how to ensure we keep Calum. Those that know him know that the hours and personal commitment he puts in over and above this job far out way what he is paid for.
No doubt some on the Board may say we can replace anyone but Calums do not grow on trees! To replace Calum, his skills, his passion and his wholehearted commitment would be impossible for us on our budget at the moment.
Going part time does seriously worry me in this respect and I would like to see the Board reassure us ASAP and not make us wait until the next CFU meeting on 5June to get some answers.
Our Academy is our golden egg we need to protect it and more importantly we need to protect
Calum.
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