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Post by Matt on Sept 7, 2018 12:10:22 GMT
It’s Just been announced that we’ve signed Luke Jordan from Ramsbottom. Only 19 and plays as a winger.
We just need that final peice in a striker upfront and that’s all done.
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Post by majorminor on Sept 7, 2018 12:53:52 GMT
Great , sends our young players out on loan who are the same age. Two of them wide players who are both very , very fast! It's going to be hard for any of our young players to break into the first team at this rate. I thought management said they wanted a small team of 18- 20 players! How many now ?
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Post by billyw on Sept 7, 2018 13:00:28 GMT
Great , sends our young players out on loan who are the same age. Two of them wide players who are both very , very fast! It's going to be hard for any of our young players to break into the first team at this rate. I thought management said they wanted a small team of 18- 20 players! How many now ? Got to agree with you. What's the fixation with Ramsbottom (no crude replies please )
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Post by Al on Sept 7, 2018 13:11:18 GMT
Do some people just come on here to moan? Are you aware of the predicament of the squad last weekend. Wether players are out on loan or not, once they’re out theyre out so numbers are still required for squads etc! To answer that first line Ian. Yes that pretty much sums up DC and Chester fans in general. Moan, moan, bloody moan
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Post by peterkaysock on Sept 7, 2018 13:11:44 GMT
The only thing I'm having a issue is, that we constantly going back for ex Ramsbottom players. If not we are tapping up Salford, makes me think we little in the way of contact's outside of these 2 clubs. Think Nathan Brown can do us a job. Would of kept him back.
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Post by peterkaysock on Sept 7, 2018 13:16:02 GMT
New signing and most responses are negative. Let’s hope the young man does my have a look on here! I'm not moaning, wish lad well.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 13:17:04 GMT
Chester fans remind me of a Lee and Herring sketch
Rich: you wanted the moon on a stick...well look! i went up and got it for you!
Stew: but i don't want it!
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Post by peterkaysock on Sept 7, 2018 13:17:04 GMT
The only thing I'm having a issue is, that we constantly going back for ex Ramsbottom players. If not we are tapping up Salford, makes me think we little in the way of contact's outside of these 2 clubs. Think Nathan Brown can do us a job. Would of kept him back. I could be wrong and without wanting to sound pedantic but I’m pretty sure the only player signed from Ramsbottom is the new lad whom on twitter seems to be very highly thought of. Nearly every player has featured for Ramsbottom in some shape or form
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Post by Anders on Sept 7, 2018 13:24:42 GMT
The state of this thread. Bloody hell.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 13:31:41 GMT
It'll be interesting to see the reaction on here if the lad plays a blinder on Saturday
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 7, 2018 13:32:43 GMT
Nathan Brown is on loan at Ramsbottom to get senior experience, where as Luke Jordan has made 7 football league appearances and more on loan at clubs like Ramsbottom. Luke has done what Nathan is currently doing for the past two or so seasons. Believe this is another signing on non-contract terms costing us nothing if he doesn't play too.
Welcome on board Luke. We've certainly got options out wide now!
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Post by majorminor on Sept 7, 2018 13:40:40 GMT
. I have a mate of a mate who know one of our graduates on loan. Hes working so hard, living and breathing the game and getting lots of minuetes. He,s really hoping to impress the management and the last time i heard they have yet to go watch him play. Yet they have watched the new signing twice, the same age, plays a simlar position and signed him.You say " let's hope the young lad dosent read this thread" well think how friends, family and our young players feel when they hear and read about a new signing when the,ve been shipped out on loan. Their wage saved, probably paying the new guy! Not sorry for moaning. Sticking up for R own !
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Post by majorminor on Sept 7, 2018 14:20:16 GMT
Vendetta !! Bloody ell, is that what you took from my comment ?
I have no words...I can't be bothered.
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Post by Lobster on Sept 7, 2018 14:32:32 GMT
In cases like these, I always think of the reaction on the old DC when we signed Oli McBurnie on loan. “Oh, not another kid!”, “If Bradford don’t want him why do we?”, “Just play Tom Peers instead”. A few years later, he’s a Scottish international and a regular scorer in the Championship.
I think until the manager(s) truly lose the backing of the supporters (which should not have happened after one win, two draws and two losses), you have to give them some credit for knowing what they’re doing, and respond to any signings they make in a positive and encouraging way. Plus we’re signing young players who are coming up the divisions, isn’t that what we always say we want?
Welcome, Luke.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Sept 7, 2018 15:02:30 GMT
I’d say that the reaction by some on here is very unjustified considering we haven’t watched him play yet. Give the lad a chance because who knows what he could produce. He made a few appearances for Morecambe in the EFL so it’s obvious that Luke has got something about him. Welcome to Chester FC Luke! 🔵⚪️🔵⚪️
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Post by rcb on Sept 7, 2018 15:22:36 GMT
The way I read the posts on here I don’t see any criticism whatsoever in regard to Luke Jordan. Some posts are perhaps critical of what appears to be an excessive focus on Ramsbottom. Championship down to National League has 20 Northwest based teams. Adding those to other Northwest teams from Wales and Evostik produces a very large pool of reasonably local players for any scouting network. With not one but two Northwest managers now in charge at Chester, coupled with the coaching staff they have with them, I expected far more this season than what seems to be as limited a scouting network as that of the very limited McCarthy. Parhaps I was expecting too much when the duo were appointed, but so far I am extremely underwhelmed by results, performances, and recruitment. In avoiding a kneejerk reaction I gave them ten games before I made a judgement. Well, we’re half way there and so far the only thing I’m impressed with is getting the stadium back in action following the flood.
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Post by sqzl on Sept 7, 2018 15:38:27 GMT
The way I read the posts on here I don’t see any criticism whatsoever in regard to Luke Jordan. Some posts are perhaps critical of what appears to be an excessive focus on Ramsbottom. Championship down to National League has 20 Northwest based teams. Adding those to other Northwest teams from Wales and Evostik produces a very large pool of reasonably local players for any scouting network. With not one but two Northwest managers now in charge at Chester, coupled with the coaching staff they have with them, I expected far more this season than what seems to be as limited a scouting network as that of the very limited McCarthy. Parhaps I was expecting too much when the duo were appointed, but so far I am extremely underwhelmed by results, performances, and recruitment. In avoiding a kneejerk reaction I gave them ten games before I made a judgement. Well, we’re half way there and so far the only thing I’m impressed with is getting the stadium back in action following the flood. On the flip side we are three games behind everyone else. If things do come together for the lads and we win those games we’d be 4/5th I believe. Then we’d have everyone licking the duos arse. I think we bit of balance is necessary here and time. People keep mentioning our own loads going out on loan. There’s a reason, they aren’t actually good enough to hold down their positions. Waters is inconsistent and whilst I’ve seen promise I’ve seen terrible games too, and it doesn’t help him or us to be inconsistent. Brown, who I am more impressed with personally has talent, but physically he gets bullied a bit and needs to learn to use his body in the right ways to draw fouls etc. Either way, Waters is the only winger we’ve loaned out that’s worth having and I still think he needs to learn to grow consistency before being a player that can move us forward. Looks Sam hughes, a loan spell didn’t harm him and his consistency grew massively.
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Post by MPW on Sept 7, 2018 15:58:31 GMT
He’s on a dual registration with us and Ramsbottom apparently.
Not sure how that works if he goes on to do well and moves on for a few?
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Post by btb on Sept 7, 2018 16:05:47 GMT
Can see both sides of the debate but I'm inclined to side with the management and trust their judgement that he is better than what we have got or he offers something different. Where does this leave the lad from fleet wood? Didn't think he looked much better, if at all, than any of the young lads who have come through the youth set up.
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Post by Si on Sept 7, 2018 16:29:52 GMT
The way I read the posts on here I don’t see any criticism whatsoever in regard to Luke Jordan. Some posts are perhaps critical of what appears to be an excessive focus on Ramsbottom. Championship down to National League has 20 Northwest based teams. Adding those to other Northwest teams from Wales and Evostik produces a very large pool of reasonably local players for any scouting network. With not one but two Northwest managers now in charge at Chester, coupled with the coaching staff they have with them, I expected far more this season than what seems to be as limited a scouting network as that of the very limited McCarthy. Parhaps I was expecting too much when the duo were appointed, but so far I am extremely underwhelmed by results, performances, and recruitment. In avoiding a kneejerk reaction I gave them ten games before I made a judgement. Well, we’re half way there and so far the only thing I’m impressed with is getting the stadium back in action following the flood. I think I’m going to wait until we have played more than 1 home game before judging them.
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Post by Si on Sept 7, 2018 16:32:37 GMT
. I have a mate of a mate who know one of our graduates on loan. Hes working so hard, living and breathing the game and getting lots of minuetes. He,s really hoping to impress the management and the last time i heard they have yet to go watch him play. Yet they have watched the new signing twice, the same age, plays a simlar position and signed him.You say " let's hope the young lad dosent read this thread" well think how friends, family and our young players feel when they hear and read about a new signing when the,ve been shipped out on loan. Their wage saved, probably paying the new guy! Not sorry for moaning. Sticking up for R own ! The only reason they have seen him twice is because he played against us for Ramsbotton and Morecambe in pre season. They mentioned the scout Neil Hart has also been out to see him. I’ve got no problem with this.....if it doesn’t work out he goes back to Rammy, and by all accounts our young lads are out getting some valuable minutes and doing well so will be more equipped when they return to us.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Sept 7, 2018 16:38:11 GMT
In fairness; the physically atronger lads, like Thompson Lloyd Marsh Hughes and Cain Noble are getting game time or unxluded in the squad.
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Post by Jack on Sept 7, 2018 16:38:19 GMT
Exactly the type of signing we should be looking to make, this. To make 7 appearances in the EFL shows he has something about him, by accounts he's pacy and direct. What is not to like?
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Post by chesterken on Sept 7, 2018 16:43:34 GMT
At least wait and see the lad play before we criticise his signing, the manager says he’s quick and direct not something we have already. As for the young lads they are not ready for the first team yet but they are out getting games which will only improve them.
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Post by peterkaysock on Sept 7, 2018 17:31:04 GMT
The way I read the posts on here I don’t see any criticism whatsoever in regard to Luke Jordan. Some posts are perhaps critical of what appears to be an excessive focus on Ramsbottom. Championship down to National League has 20 Northwest based teams. Adding those to other Northwest teams from Wales and Evostik produces a very large pool of reasonably local players for any scouting network. With not one but two Northwest managers now in charge at Chester, coupled with the coaching staff they have with them, I expected far more this season than what seems to be as limited a scouting network as that of the very limited McCarthy. Parhaps I was expecting too much when the duo were appointed, but so far I am extremely underwhelmed by results, performances, and recruitment. In avoiding a kneejerk reaction I gave them ten games before I made a judgement. Well, we’re half way there and so far the only thing I’m impressed with is getting the stadium back in action following the flood. Absolutely, on the money. I want the managers and the lads to do well, just think there is alot of talent out there to be tapped into. As ever if you have different opinions to others on here, you are moaning and trying to bring the club into repute. Which I am not, pointing out the obvious. Good luck to Luke, hope he does the biss
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Post by rcb on Sept 7, 2018 17:58:44 GMT
The way I read the posts on here I don’t see any criticism whatsoever in regard to Luke Jordan. Some posts are perhaps critical of what appears to be an excessive focus on Ramsbottom. Championship down to National League has 20 Northwest based teams. Adding those to other Northwest teams from Wales and Evostik produces a very large pool of reasonably local players for any scouting network. With not one but two Northwest managers now in charge at Chester, coupled with the coaching staff they have with them, I expected far more this season than what seems to be as limited a scouting network as that of the very limited McCarthy. Parhaps I was expecting too much when the duo were appointed, but so far I am extremely underwhelmed by results, performances, and recruitment. In avoiding a kneejerk reaction I gave them ten games before I made a judgement. Well, we’re half way there and so far the only thing I’m impressed with is getting the stadium back in action following the flood. I think I’m going to wait until we have played more than 1 home game before judging them. Don’t quite understand why you chose to tag your comment onto my post, thus implying you somehow disagreed. I expressly said I would make my judgement after ten games. When will you make your judgement?
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Post by Harry Lime on Sept 7, 2018 19:27:05 GMT
Luke gives us something different from what we have. Pace.
He's a young lad who has played Football League. Isn't that exactly the kind of player we should be looking to bring in?
Nathan Brown, apart from one 30 minute spell, hasn't looked to have improved in the last season. Iwan Murray may have improved past him imo.
Waters hasn't had a good game in 12 months, when I've seen him.
It's a touch of the Tom Peers problem. People think they're better than they are, because they've done well in our youth team. People seem to ignore the fact that a number of our young players are getting game time this season.
The other issue is our injury list. The bench at Guiseley had two 17yo's, an 18yo and a 19yo keeper and 23yo we signed the day before. Sean Miller didn't look that fit either. Maybe we need another body for tomorrow.
Some of the people complaining about where we get players from might want to consider our budget. We've managed to get in a bunch of players who have played in teams that won this league. Some played higher recently too. Others are young keen players moving up into this league, from the Unibond. We've lost a player to Spennymoor, who doubled our offer. Where do you we're going to sign players from?
There does seem to be an agenda against our Managers from some of our supporters. Maybe the pain and frustration of the past 30 months have just got to us all. We need to take a breath and pull together. Giving our own manager and players abuse etc is hardly going to help us get players in or for them to play well when they do come.
There was a Sunderland game on in August. They were playing well and the crowd were supporting them. Then a player under hit a pass and the opposition got in on goal. The whole atmosphere changed in an instant. The players felt it and they fell apart. West Ham are the same. Their supporters have had so much disapointment, they almost will it on to the team. Making it difficult for them to play well. Even harder for a young player.
Let's support our managers and players.
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 7, 2018 19:59:18 GMT
So because a few of the lads started there careers at Ramsbottom years ago that’s a concern? With new managers coming in during close season with only a handful of players left why wouldn’t they sign up free agents that have played for them before at some point as opposed to waiting until pre-season to assess trialists? From what I can gather the new lad hasn’t ever played for the managers before but because he happens to have played for Ramsbottom it’s an issue? Like I’ve said above, some people genuinely come on here just to have a whine and moan about anything and everything! Ian are you this lad's agent?
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Post by btb on Sept 7, 2018 20:08:11 GMT
So because a few of the lads started there careers at Ramsbottom years ago that’s a concern? With new managers coming in during close season with only a handful of players left why wouldn’t they sign up free agents that have played for them before at some point as opposed to waiting until pre-season to assess trialists? From what I can gather the new lad hasn’t ever played for the managers before but because he happens to have played for Ramsbottom it’s an issue? Like I’ve said above, some people genuinely come on here just to have a whine and moan about anything and everything! Ian are you this lad's agent? I have a feeling Ian is somebody who is connected to somebody who is on the staff. A parent perhaps.
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Post by happyclapper on Sept 7, 2018 21:07:46 GMT
Ian are you this lad's agent? I have a feeling Ian is somebody who is connected to somebody who is on the staff. A parent perhaps. This is Ian's first post (more like a mate of the two managers) : Hi all newbie here. Followed Bernard and Johno since their Rammy days watching most games home and away in that time. Will certainly be trying my best to get to the majority of Chester games too with what I’m guessing will be quite a following of people who’ve watched the managers at both clubs. I’d hazard a guess that there’ll probably be a number of former players who the managers will bring in as they do create a fierce loyalty towards each other. The likes of Richie Allen, Gary Stopforth and Steve Howson will probably be on their list as they’re now free agents but Brad Barnes and Chris Lynch have recently signed at FC Utd who I also thought may be targets. I wouldn’t be shocked if they tried to bring in lads like James Poole and Jordan Hulme who scored 30+ goals for Altrincham last season and dare I say Scott Burton a huge fans favourite at Salford City although he still has 12 months left on his deal their so probably that one may be a little far fetched and he will probably want to have a go at the Conference. One things for sure is that whoever they bring in will be absolutely 100% committed and will run through the metaphorical brick wall for each other. Enjoy the ride!
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