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Post by poolepirate on Oct 2, 2018 19:56:00 GMT
just listened to the excellent interview with GG on five live gave an honest no nonsense insight into his problems and where the misuse of substances have taken him
during the interview i was concerned in hearing him say his back injury requires surgery which neither he or the club can afford to pay for so will he be on the sidelines for the season then ?
i know not many clubs at our level can afford private health insurance for its players its not a cheap thing to get(even worse in a contact sport)
a player at one of my local clubs(poole town) had a player who needed an operation and if he had waited for an appointment on the NHS it would have been months in coming so the fans of poole organised a crowd funder to pay for his operation privately perhaps blues fans could do a similar thing ?
talking of private health insurance i used to work for a large company who specialized in that and we used to cover many teams both premier league and other football league clubs and many top managers
many years ago when we were chester city the company i worked for received forms for PMI for supposed players for the blues but i knew the names shown on the forms were anything but players(physio,groundsman bar people etc etc)
the scam was discovered(how i dont know) and cover refused
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Post by blaconcasual1 on Oct 2, 2018 21:12:09 GMT
just listened to the excellent interview with GG on five live gave an honest no nonsense insight into his problems and where the misuse of substances have taken him during the interview i was concerned in hearing him say his back injury requires surgery which neither he or the club can afford to pay for so will he be on the sidelines for the season then ? i know not many clubs at our level can afford private health insurance for its players its not a cheap thing to get(even worse in a contact sport) a player at one of my local clubs(poole town) had a player who needed an operation and if he had waited for an appointment on the NHS it would have been months in coming so the fans of poole organised a crowd funder to pay for his operation privately perhaps blues fans could do a similar thing ? talking of private health insurance i used to work for a large company who specialized in that and we used to cover many teams both premier league and other football league clubs and many top managers many years ago when we were chester city the company i worked for received forms for PMI for supposed players for the blues but i knew the names shown on the forms were anything but players(physio,groundsman bar people etc etc) the scam was discovered(how i dont know) and cover refused Might aswell accept that we aren't ever gonna see him in a Chester shirt,my opinion is theirs definitely more to the story. |
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Post by babyblue on Oct 2, 2018 21:18:12 GMT
just listened to the excellent interview with GG on five live gave an honest no nonsense insight into his problems and where the misuse of substances have taken him during the interview i was concerned in hearing him say his back injury requires surgery which neither he or the club can afford to pay for so will he be on the sidelines for the season then ? i know not many clubs at our level can afford private health insurance for its players its not a cheap thing to get(even worse in a contact sport) a player at one of my local clubs(poole town) had a player who needed an operation and if he had waited for an appointment on the NHS it would have been months in coming so the fans of poole organised a crowd funder to pay for his operation privately perhaps blues fans could do a similar thing ? talking of private health insurance i used to work for a large company who specialized in that and we used to cover many teams both premier league and other football league clubs and many top managers many years ago when we were chester city the company i worked for received forms for PMI for supposed players for the blues but i knew the names shown on the forms were anything but players(physio,groundsman bar people etc etc) the scam was discovered(how i dont know) and cover refused Might aswell accept that we aren't ever gonna see him in a Chester shirt,my opinion is theirs definitely more to the story. This |
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Post by bluejay on Oct 2, 2018 21:33:33 GMT
just listened to the excellent interview with GG on five live gave an honest no nonsense insight into his problems and where the misuse of substances have taken him during the interview i was concerned in hearing him say his back injury requires surgery which neither he or the club can afford to pay for so will he be on the sidelines for the season then ? i know not many clubs at our level can afford private health insurance for its players its not a cheap thing to get(even worse in a contact sport) a player at one of my local clubs(poole town) had a player who needed an operation and if he had waited for an appointment on the NHS it would have been months in coming so the fans of poole organised a crowd funder to pay for his operation privately perhaps blues fans could do a similar thing ? talking of private health insurance i used to work for a large company who specialized in that and we used to cover many teams both premier league and other football league clubs and many top managers many years ago when we were chester city the company i worked for received forms for PMI for supposed players for the blues but i knew the names shown on the forms were anything but players(physio,groundsman bar people etc etc) the scam was discovered(how i dont know) and cover refused I'd prefer to donate to a crowdfund for this than a "squadbuilder" to bring in some overrated journeymen. If the op is what is needed he may well be worth it. |
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Post by chesterken on Oct 2, 2018 21:46:58 GMT
Agree 100% with Bluejay let’s make it happen.
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Post by MPW on Oct 2, 2018 21:47:59 GMT
Maybe he should ask Everton to help him out?, after all, they were quick to pay him silly money at such a young age and allowed him to go off the rails.
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Post by tarvinblue on Oct 2, 2018 21:53:07 GMT
Why are we going to donate money to a player who is never likely to pull on a Chester shirt? We paid a transfer fee for him and I am assuming he is picking up a weekly wage. Didn't even get a mention tonight in the discussions about injuries and I've not seen him at a game in a while. Seems to be living off the back of telling his story to anyone who will listen. The managers have got a lot right, however we seem to have lost out both physically and financially with this one. He arrived injured and it seems evident that this was known, even if the extent of it wasn't fully understood. Should have been investigated properly at medical before pen was put to paper.
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Post by league2 on Oct 2, 2018 22:12:05 GMT
Players don't have pre signing medicals at this level of football tarv
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Post by dmcnally on Oct 2, 2018 22:43:06 GMT
Believe he did have a medical before signing.
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Post by boughtonblue on Oct 3, 2018 5:46:14 GMT
About 5k for a discectomy and six weeks before you drive again? Be lucky to get him on the pitch this season.
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Post by Hannibal on Oct 3, 2018 7:34:02 GMT
I thought the PFA had this covered.
Scott Rendell (Woking) had a serious injury and the fans financed the op by crowdfunder.
He was out for a season and when he recovered he buggered off to Aldershot.
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Post by jb on Oct 3, 2018 8:46:32 GMT
I thought the PFA had this covered. Scott Rendell (Woking) had a serious injury and the fans financed the op by crowdfunder. He was out for a season and when he recovered he buggered off to Aldershot. I was thinking about him (Rendell) when I read the crowdfunder suggestion. He then goes on to score against Woking and goads their fans after all the help they gave him. |
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Post by Matt on Oct 3, 2018 10:15:17 GMT
It’s a gamble but if it works out it could make decent money for the Club. It was Archer’s transfer money included but we paid around 8k for him didn’t we?
The managers knew about the injury but unfortunately it flared up during pre-season.
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Post by durdy on Oct 3, 2018 10:40:48 GMT
Listening to and reading his various articles on mental health and drug issues I think that George's future may well lay in the motivational speaking spectrum rather than in football we should cut our losses as soon as and concentrate on what we have and if by giving him a little bit of security over the past few months we need not feel guilty to him or bitter over the "injury" and maybe look at the Jennings boy who has joined Runcorn as a possible replacement
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Post by dc2cfc on Oct 3, 2018 10:59:05 GMT
People just need to relax about George Green and his injury,
At the end of the day this lad has the ability to be playing at League One level at least ...
I’d rather be paying a wage for an injured George Green than paying for a wage for fully fit footballers like Dawson, White, Rowe-Turner !!!
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Post by Imperial on Oct 3, 2018 12:10:00 GMT
I wouldn’t be chipping in. No illl will towards him but the idea of paying towards treatment of someone who hasn’t even kicked a ball for us is laughable. Why? Because IF he fulfills his potential & IF he gets over his injury we MAY have a quality player on our hands who we MAY be able to profit from?
The way I see it is he’s signed a contract & that should be honoured & while he’s a CFC player he should be entitled to his wages & the use of the facilities, physio etc. If he comes good, fantastic. If not, he should be released at the end of his contract.
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Post by iandychesterfc on Oct 3, 2018 12:18:32 GMT
People just need to relax about George Green and his injury, At the end of the day this lad has the ability to be playing at League One level at least ... I’d rather be paying a wage for an injured George Green than paying for a wage for fully fit footballers like Dawson, White, Rowe-Turner !!! Ok come now, you're getting silly. If you do feel like that, i have some magic beans you can buy... |
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Post by poolepirate on Oct 3, 2018 13:40:12 GMT
My original post thread re GG and the replies so far shows the issue we have with him.
You would assume he is on contract till the end of season IF somehow he gets the operation he needs(not sure how that is going to happen as mentioned before) it is going to take a while to get match fit its October now so well into 2019 before we maybe see the best of him.
He will be 23 come January someone remind me what age a player has to be for a club to get compensation if he signs for a new club ?
So we could end up paying his wages all season(having paid a fee for him initially) and lose him for free
At what stage do we say lets cut our losses and offer him a payoff to leave ?
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Post by blaconcasual1 on Oct 3, 2018 13:41:44 GMT
People just need to relax about George Green and his injury, At the end of the day this lad has the ability to be playing at League One level at least ... I’d rather be paying a wage for an injured George Green than paying for a wage for fully fit footballers like Dawson, White, Rowe-Turner !!! Where's the proof he should be playing league 1? he hasn't really proved anything tbh,46 appearances & 4 goals,not a great return for an attacking midfielder, I've also noticed on his twitter that just of late he seems to be aiming bitter comments towards Everton,theirs never anything Chester related,you know the club that pays his wages,I still stand by my opinion that we'll never see him in a Chester shirt,the club need to come clean with the situation as majority of fans are now not buying into the mystery back injury. |
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Post by sealking on Oct 3, 2018 14:07:43 GMT
Signed for one year but I quote from the chronicle article 'penned a one year deal at Chester with the club having an option to extend for a second year should they so wish'....so I assume we may of had a inkling he wasn't going to play much this season and hopefully fully fit next year and extend his contract. If he's not fit then no offer of an extension
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 3, 2018 18:44:31 GMT
I do feel for him given all of his issues and fair play to him for being so open and honest about it but I also fear that he'll have to be as good as Messi when (if?) he plays for us, to satisfy our home support. Craig Mahon was branded a "passenger" last season and there was a lot of talk of getting rid (glad we didn't, he's been superb this term), should Green not be in the same bracket? Personally I think it's a bad piece of business.
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Post by blaconblues on Oct 3, 2018 20:11:56 GMT
I'll be in a very small majority but I'd honestly prefer to see us help him in anyway we can in life. In fact I'd take that over any promotion.
There's more to life than football - a young man with a you a family trying to resurrect his own life let alone his career.
If we can show loyalty to him, I'd hope he would do the same for us over the next couple of years.
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Post by chesterken on Oct 3, 2018 20:21:26 GMT
I'll be in a very small majority but I'd honestly prefer to see us help him in anyway we can in life. In fact I'd take that over any promotion. There's more to life than football - a young man with a you a family trying to resurrect his own life let alone his career. If we can show loyalty to him, I'd hope he would do the same for us over the next couple of years. Very well put, are you sure your from Blacon😂. |
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Post by noddy on Oct 3, 2018 20:26:23 GMT
I'll be in a very small majority but I'd honestly prefer to see us help him in anyway we can in life. In fact I'd take that over any promotion. There's more to life than football - a young man with a you a family trying to resurrect his own life let alone his career. If we can show loyalty to him, I'd hope he would do the same for us over the next couple of years. Very well put, are you sure your from Blacon😂. Am sure it was a meant to be a compliment Ken, but you could have worded it better. |
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Post by Woody on Oct 3, 2018 20:34:28 GMT
I'll be in a very small majority but I'd honestly prefer to see us help him in anyway we can in life. In fact I'd take that over any promotion. There's more to life than football - a young man with a you a family trying to resurrect his own life let alone his career. If we can show loyalty to him, I'd hope he would do the same for us over the next couple of years. [br Totally agree, |
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Post by chesterken on Oct 3, 2018 20:43:38 GMT
Very well put, are you sure your from Blacon😂. Am sure it was a meant to be a compliment Ken, but you could have worded it better. It definitely was a compliment Noddy and the Blacon comment was a joke not an insult, surely we still have room for humer. |
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Post by noddy on Oct 3, 2018 21:11:03 GMT
That's fine Ken, point taken. As a Blaconite myself I'm very proud of my roots and can be a touch sensitive to what I perceive as a cheap shot. Always have time for genuine humour on this board though!
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Post by Gandalf on Oct 3, 2018 21:20:54 GMT
Ive been wondering if Bern and Jono just wanted him to be fit for the second half/later end of the season and have next season in mind for him. Remember he's still young, and could be a great asset in the coming years
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Post by Imperial on Oct 3, 2018 21:42:45 GMT
Ive been wondering if Bern and Jono just wanted him to be fit for the second half/later end of the season and have next season in mind for him. Remember he's still young, and could be a great asset in the coming years I’m pretty sure it’s transpired that the injury was worse than first thought. |
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Post by tonya on Oct 3, 2018 22:08:14 GMT
Am sure it was a meant to be a compliment Ken, but you could have worded it better. It definitely was a compliment Noddy and the Blacon comment was a joke not an insult, surely we still have room for humer. At least a Blacon person could spell the word 'humour'! |
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