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Post by Djruss on Nov 27, 2018 22:03:05 GMT
Well that was dreadful, what a waste of £10, wont be back in a hurry to watch that dross.....no idea what so ever against a poor Southport team...
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Nov 27, 2018 22:05:48 GMT
Just the Cheshire cup to f**k up now and then the seasons over. Seasons over? We are 6th in the league. Not sure why you’re so bothered anyway, you turned your back on the club years ago. Mind your own business.
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Nov 27, 2018 22:08:19 GMT
Durrell and LLoyd back for Macclesfield and they start their great escape. So?
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Post by jb on Nov 27, 2018 22:08:41 GMT
That was shocking stuff. Jordan and Dawson would struggle to cross a road.
Seeing that scrawny necked assistant for Southport made me realise things could be a lot worse though. He brought back painful memories from his reign of destruction.
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Post by Hannibal on Nov 27, 2018 22:09:57 GMT
Durrell and LLoyd back for Macclesfield and they start their great escape. How is that relevant to the match thread? Just an observation from me to try to deflect from an approaching crisis.
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Nov 27, 2018 22:10:26 GMT
Think people need to look back at last season and see what situation we were in then and what situation were now before moaning We'll come good again Interesting you mention last season, 2nd half tonight was very reminiscent of it!! On the balance of play it was a pretty even game. The worry is the total lack of bite up front. Defensively we're no longer as solid as we were during that unbeaten run and so we'll slide down the table unless it's urgently addressed. I don't think we need to see any more of Jordan to know he doesn't belong at this level. Quick word on Shenton. He didn't make any effort to save that first goal. Yes, it was a great strike but it was as if he thought it was going wide such was his total lack of movement. Normally you see keepers scrabbling across to make the save - even if get nowhere near it. Not Shenton it seems and he's done it several times before. He might have got there if he'd tried.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Nov 27, 2018 22:13:43 GMT
A very disappointing outcome for us tonight which is sad to see. Our lack of squad depth is starting to show, whilst we have now only scored once in the last 450 minutes which needs to change quickly. The absence of Matty Hughes is beginning to take its toll now as he has been a massive miss for us lately, so we need to find something fast to get us back in track. Overall, the general consensus of tonight’s defeat is that we have fallen at the first hurdle of the cup again to a side who are certainly pulling no trees, and have missed out on £5,000 which is hurtful to fan-owned clubs like ourselves. Southport and there little bunch of fans will be happy, but to get knocked out at such an early stage yet again hurts a lot.
Our first half performance was rather decent to be honest as we got the better of Southport but just couldn’t find the target. The visitors started off quicker than us, but as the half went on we looked the likelier to score. Just like Saturday, Matty Thomson had a good game throughout and should definitely be starting on a more regular basis. We played some good football on our slick surface which was more bareable to watch than Saturday’s encounter which was extremely scrappy. I thought that Gary Roberts’ cameo was an improvement to the original fixture as his work ethic was 100% due to him covering a lot of ground and making decent balls. We still went into half time searching for a goal though despite our first half display being an improvement.
The second half just turned into a disaster which we never got out of. Just like the first, Southport started as the more threatening and duly took the lead when David Morgan scored a screamer from 30 yards. Minutes later the visitors made it 2-0 when Jordan Archer lapsed on a poor Gary Stopforth backpass to possibly score the easiest goal of his career. Luke Jordan started for us tonight but was ineffective whenever he had the ball and did very little unfortunately. To be honest Southport weren’t world beaters this evening but our shallow depth is starting to show which is why we need to come up with more ideas. Lloyd Marsh-Hughes showed positive glimpses during his late appearance, but the tie was already wrapped up by then for us to get back into it. All in all the actual match was just as uninspiring as the original tie despite our first half performance showing decent signs.
My overall reaction isn’t great on the back of this. Some may come out to say I’m going over the top, but we just simply have to be exploiting mediocre sides if we are to be up there come April. We’ve lost out on a cup run again and have lost out on a few thousand grand which isn’t good enough. I’ve no doubt the Dynamic Duo will get our lads firing again, but we have to score a goal and win a game very soon to get back on track. As I said earlier we’ve only scored one solitary goal in the last 450 minutes so maybe we might have to bring one or two in as we are missing poor old Matty Hughes. Onto Darlington now which is a vital game for us back in the league. I suppose we just have to focus on that and the Cheshire Cup now as our two chances of success. This defeat still hurts, but I guess we’ll just have to go again and hope things look up from now on.
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Post by Anders on Nov 27, 2018 22:22:23 GMT
First half was certainly some sort of improvement on recent weeks, there were bits and pieces of decent link up between Roberts, Stopforth, Mooney and Dudley, but for all of that very few actual chances. We really just hit the bar from a corner and flashed an effort across the goal line. Some excellent play from Marsh-Hughes put Smalley in on goal in the second half but he tamely just found the keeper.
We were pretty crap in the second half though and the game was over after the second goal. Very little movement from an attacking point of view and started making mistakes at the back. Their first was a good hit from some way out which Shenton just watched go in. The second belongs on a bloopers DVD as Stopforth played a back pass to Shenton from about 40 yards out not realising Archer was standing about 15 yards offside in between them all. Southport just pretty much took both chances they had in the game.
I’ll be surprised if we see Jordan or Dawson again after tonight as well.
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Post by jabber on Nov 27, 2018 22:24:45 GMT
I never went but it's obvious , the lads are tired and a bit thin on the ground , need to try a few of the young lads which will freshen things a bit,as well as get the regulars looking over their shoulders , maybe 1 or 2 new arrivals. Almost every team has good and bad spells , but we need to try something and the managers know this. I'm happy at the mo being 6th but time will tell , but that's life . We're not a rich club so we just need to stick with it. I'll be there Saturday :-)
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Post by MPW on Nov 27, 2018 22:28:04 GMT
What is it with Macca and shite Chester performances at the Deva!? 😁
It was very reminiscent of last season that, especially second half. We were just woeful. Had to feel for Stopforth when he made THAT ‘assist’ for Archer, but you simply can’t do that at any level. I’ll be surprised if we ever see Luke Jordan in a Chester shirt ever again, simply not good enough and I think he’ll be one of the players to go.
We could have had a couple of goals first half with a bit more luck, but nothing seems to be falling for us at the moment.
We really need to win on Saturday, but another performance like the last few weeks and it might be a while before we see another win.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2018 22:31:18 GMT
Truly abysmal 2nd half performance.
Doesn't matter whether it's the FA Trophy, FA Cup or NLN, criticism is fully justified after a showing like the second 45 minutes tonight. I'm pretty sure that the players and management would agree.
Bereft of creativity or ideas Lacking confidence especially in front of goal and fragile at the moment Alarmingly one-paced Lacking "bite" in midfield
In short, the polar opposite of what we were 5-6 weeks ago.
As I posted after Saturday, it's not panic stations yet but we are edging ever closer to the question "When does a blip become a slump?"
We're still not yet in December so there's plenty of time to restore what we were earlier in the season but, as I'm sure Bern and Jonno are aware, we can't let this drift much further.
We now have no option but to concentrate on the league. We need to find our mojo again because performances like tonight (and recently) will do nothing to attract support which for a club like ours is our lifeblood both in the immediate and foreseeable future.
Let's hope that we can regroup for Saturday, put in a solid performance, get a positive result and get the message back out there that the last few weeks have been but a passing phase.
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Post by sqzl on Nov 27, 2018 22:34:05 GMT
Yeah he chose to have a serious injury and keep himself from playing for months, hilarious that. Serious injury my arse, Matty Hughes is a serious injury George Green is a little bit of a sore back which conveniently gives him time off to conduct his mental health media campaign ( which is highly commendable) whilst stealing a wage off our club Oh you’re one of them. No point trying to validate my point.
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Post by chesterblue80 on Nov 27, 2018 22:35:47 GMT
Gutted for Stopforth first poor game of the season for him hopefully he bounces back on Saturday
as for Luke Jordan he can go back to Ramsbottom awful player
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Post by Deva Chanter on Nov 27, 2018 23:00:14 GMT
Must have felt very weird for Jon McCarthy actually winning a game at the Deva.
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Post by jb on Nov 27, 2018 23:02:55 GMT
Wouldn’t the salary for this new General manager be better spent on two new players?
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Post by Harry Lime on Nov 27, 2018 23:22:24 GMT
The result wasn't really a surprise tonight. There was nothing between the teams Saturday, and nothing tonight really. We just gave them two goals, and they gave us nothing.
Southport may look average, but they have won 6 of their last 7 games. We, in contrast, haven't won in 4.
We've watched plenty of games like that over the years. They don't get any less painful.
The issue for me is the front four. They are all ball players who need the ball at their feet. The managers gave Jordan a go. Didn't work. They tried Mooney as a 10. He might be a short term answer there, as we have no-one else who can play there. They tried Dawson on the left. He was better there then as a 10, but not much. As I posted last week don't think he's the answer.
The managers are trying to shuffle around a few players into a winning team again. The plus side is that the back four aren't giving chances away.
I'd expect a couple to go quick now. Dawson and Jordan are effectively unpaid at the moment, I think. So we won't save much moving them out.
By the way, I'd keep Pritchard. He gives us an option wide and I'd keep him over Dawson or Jordan anyday.
These managers have put us in a better place than we expected. Now we're slipping a bit a lot of people are over reacting. They have as much chance as any at this level, to find the right players to get in. Must be tough mid season without any budget to work with. For all Stuart Murphy's investment in infrastructure etc etc. That money needs to impact the first team sooner rather than later.
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Post by Anders on Nov 27, 2018 23:32:16 GMT
The result wasn't really a surprise tonight. There was nothing between the teams Saturday, and nothing tonight really. We just gave them two goals, and they gave us nothing. Southport may look average, but they have won 6 of their last 7 games. We, in contrast, haven't won in 4. We've watched plenty of games like that over the years. They don't get any less painful. The issue for me is the front four. They are all ball players who need the ball at their feet. The managers gave Jordan a go. Didn't work. They tried Mooney as a 10. He might be a short term answer there, as we have no-one else who can play there. They tried Dawson on the left. He was better there then as a 10, but not much. As I posted last week don't think he's the answer. The managers are trying to shuffle around a few players into a winning team again. The plus side is that the back four aren't giving chances away. I'd expect a couple to go quick now. Dawson and Jordan are effectively unpaid at the moment, I think. So we won't save much moving them out. By the way, I'd keep Pritchard. He gives us an option wide and I'd keep him over Dawson or Jordan anyday.These managers have put us in a better place than we expected. Now we're slipping a bit a lot of people are over reacting. They have as much chance as any at this level, to find the right players to get in. Must be tough mid season without any budget to work with. For all Stuart Murphy's investment in infrastructure etc etc. That money needs to impact the first team sooner rather than later. Regarding Pritchard, I’m a bit disappointed he hasn’t been given more opportunities, he’s shown he has something about him and would be disappointed to see him head out on loan if he does. Came as a left back so the only apparent alternative or cover to Grand in that position as well, and for as much as I like Grand he’s gone ridiculously colour blind in the past few weeks.
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Post by Imperial on Nov 27, 2018 23:32:36 GMT
Well that was dreadful.
We were poor & so were they. There were spells where we played good football but they were completely overshadowed.
Grand gives the ball away almost every single time he plays it long & it’s getting old now. Appreciate he’s not a full back but his distribution is awful.
Luke Jordan didn’t beat a man or complete a pass tonight by my count. He did manage to get a couple of crosses in but none that landed.
Positives were Thompson & Marsh-Hughes, both played well & neither looked out of place & Gary Roberts did a good job backing up Thompson when required. Marsh-Hughes’ mazy run & slide rule pass were absolute quality & it was a shame Smalley couldn’t finish.
Absolutely gutted that I’ve got to spend Boxing Day & NYD watching us play Southport again.
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Post by everhopeful on Nov 28, 2018 0:06:37 GMT
Don't bother spending on a GM - just get in a keeper and a goal scorer. (Remember when we had one of them??)
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Post by dmcnally on Nov 28, 2018 0:27:35 GMT
People don't half talk some bollocks once we start losing a few games. It’s says something when optimists like me are predicting losses recently though.
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Post by Lobster on Nov 28, 2018 6:26:22 GMT
People don't half talk some bollocks once we start losing a few games. It’s says something when optimists like me are predicting losses recently though. I think there are reasonable concerns, most significantly that we can’t score for toffee at the moment, but some of the conspiracy theories people come out with are crazy. ’Hevanan’ for example has only made 12 posts on this forum and half of them have been about George Green, and he even felt it necessary to add a picture of him just in case his crusade isn’t personal and vindictive enough!
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Post by Al on Nov 28, 2018 6:59:29 GMT
Our supporters though isn't it. Lose a couple of games and they go nuts, win a couple of games and we're going to piss this poxy league..
And its the same people doing it time and time again.
You'd think, given that the average supporter here has been following the club for around 25-30 years, that we'd be strong enough character wise to take a couple of defeats on the chin. After all, given what we've seen during our time as supporters what is a couple of defeat really mean? Squad needs strengthening yes, and the managers are working on that currently.
People need to take a deep breath on here and the social media accounts before going off on one making stupid arsed comments about every defeat being the "worst I've ever seen" and then threatening to "not return for a long time".
Its quite frankly pathetic behaviour
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Post by Cestrian For Life on Nov 28, 2018 7:22:48 GMT
Agreed. The whole online world (especially social media) is a disastrous addition to our lives in many ways. I wish people would just give it a break. Sadly in football, there is one team in every league that will win the title, another one will go up in the play-offs and the other 20 odd teams will have no success. You have to have something special to be at the top and it is obvious that we aren't quite there yet. We just have to enjoy the ride and be thankful that we do have two passionate guys doing their best with little money to put an entertaining team together. We have to trust them, get behind them and hope we may just flirt with the play-offs this year and not suffer our usual Christmas time implosion. I guess the only way we are going to be signing players is by getting down to watch the matches in numbers (win, lose or draw) and do everything we can as fans and owners to raise additional funds. I would love to go up this year and should it happen, I would be as happy as anyone but similarly, it wouldn't be a disaster to finish in a respectable top half position with the view to really strengthen for a stronger push next year. I fear we are a long way from being able to compete in the Conference again at the moment anyway. Our supporters though isn't it. Lose a couple of games and they go nuts, win a couple of games and we're going to piss this poxy league.. And its the same people doing it time and time again. You'd think, given that the average supporter here has been following the club for around 25-30 years, that we'd be strong enough character wise to take a couple of defeats on the chin. After all, given what we've seen during our time as supporters what is a couple of defeat really mean? Squad needs strengthening yes, and the managers are working on that currently. People need to take a deep breath on here and the social media accounts before going off on one making stupid arsed comments about every defeat being the "worst I've ever seen" and then threatening to "not return for a long time". Its quite frankly pathetic behaviour
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 28, 2018 7:36:50 GMT
Even Cleggy isn't happy! Mind you it could be worse for him, he could be watching women's football #deletedtweets
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Post by tarvinblue on Nov 28, 2018 7:54:41 GMT
It was really poor last night. Too many players have started underperforming and we are lacking any kind of attacking threat. We just devoid of ideas and movement.
Definitely need freshening up ahead of Saturday. Desperately we need a forward with the ability to hold the ball up and bring others into the game. Dudley, Mahon and Mooney have become totally ineffective in recent weeks. Dawson is not the answer- a shadow of the player he was playing for opposition teams a few years ago, but not really having a place in such a disjointed attack.
I'm pleased to see Smalley and Pritchard go out. Neither anywhere near good enough for this level. Pritchard may have knocked a few in but he has been a major disappointment. No pace, endeavour and a lack of quality when in possession. Remember the start of the season when they were both starting. The Blyth highlights of their non-existence still makes me shudder. Add Luke Jordan into that - another player sadly nowhere near the standard at this level. We need to be ruthless now if we are to progress.
The last thing we want is the season tailing off as we need the crowds coming through the gate to make sure we at least break even. With another dismal cup season over - and a lack of prize money to go with it - this is absolutely crucial.
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Post by Al on Nov 28, 2018 8:07:42 GMT
Just the Cheshire cup to f**k up now and then the seasons over. Have you looked at the league table recently? Do you even know what league we're in? You no longer support this club by your own admission, can't support us when we win, and can't support us when we lose. Why are you still on this forum?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 8:14:07 GMT
We're in a pub league, so yes I know where we are.
Love the lecture on attendance from an uber fan who goes a hand full of games a season. I have been to double the games over the last 30 years than you, if not more. But hey-how if it REALLY bothers you perhaps I should leave you to your echo chamber ?
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Post by Al on Nov 28, 2018 8:22:25 GMT
We're in a pub league, so yes I know where we are. Love the lecture on attendance from an uber fan who goes a hand full of games a season. I have been to double the games over the last 30 years than you, if not more. But hey-how if it REALLY bothers you perhaps I should leave you to your echo chamber ? I'm still here though Che, I still attend games and try by make up for not being able to get to every game by volunteering. Guess what, I'll be there on Saturday, paying my money, having a pre and post match pint and sitting in the same seat I've done for the last 25 years with my family. Congrats on going as much as you used to, still though, you don't anymore and that's the point.
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Post by Zvonimir Boban on Nov 28, 2018 8:24:11 GMT
We're in a pub league, so yes I know where we are. Love the lecture on attendance from an uber fan who goes a hand full of games a season. I have been to double the games over the last 30 years than you, if not more. But hey-how if it REALLY bothers you perhaps I should leave you to your echo chamber ? It’s more the fact you openly admitted you hadn’t been to see Chester for over a season but seem to enjoy gloating when things don’t go well for us. It’s your perogative to not support the team but why the need to come on here and take the piss out of the club?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 8:30:20 GMT
We're in a pub league, so yes I know where we are. Love the lecture on attendance from an uber fan who goes a hand full of games a season. I have been to double the games over the last 30 years than you, if not more. But hey-how if it REALLY bothers you perhaps I should leave you to your echo chamber ? It’s more the fact you openly admitted you hadn’t been to see Chester for over a season but seem to enjoy gloating when things don’t go well for us. It’s your perogative to not support the team but why the need to come on here and take the piss out of the club? I don't think its taking the piss personally, nor do I enjoy Chester loosing its more dismay at the way things have panned out. But ill not comment on loss from now on.
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