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Post by chesterken on May 19, 2019 15:49:42 GMT
Winger Craig Mahon has signed a new one-year contract for Chester FC tonight. This is excellent news as I thought that Mahony was much more consistent for us last season. He was a lot more energetic and caused opposing teams plenty of problems. I’m looking forward to seeing what he can produce in his sixth season. All the best Craig! I agree Rio, he was very consistent - I lost count of the number of times he cut in and lost the ball.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2019 17:05:12 GMT
Interesting to see people talk about Mahon's lack of end product. as to fill up a boring Sunday afternoon I've gone through the Highlights of every goal last season to work out the assist statistics and as I suspected Mahon has been directly involved with more goals than any member of the squad. He can be frustrating but it's a disservice to him say he has no end product. For anyone interested here's the assists and goals chart. ibb.co/zmZ6Dw7
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Post by Lobster on May 19, 2019 17:16:12 GMT
I think the time to let Mahon go was probably 2-3 seasons ago. At this level he's a decent player and I've no problem with him getting another season. If nothing else, he's a popular figure who loves playing for us and it's good for continuity. I think we could do with being a bit less reliant on him though. It sometimes seems like if he doesn't play well, we don't play well, and he's too inconsistent for that to be the case.
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May 19, 2019 21:02:35 GMT
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on May 19, 2019 21:02:35 GMT
Interesting to see people talk about Mahon's lack of end product. as to fill up a boring Sunday afternoon I've gone through the Highlights of every goal last season to work out the assist statistics and as I suspected Mahon has been directly involved with more goals than any member of the squad. He can be frustrating but it's a disservice to him say he has no end product. For anyone interested here's the assists and goals chart. ibb.co/zmZ6Dw7Thanks for providing those stats. There’s idiots on the socials that reckon he has no end product. Laughable.
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May 19, 2019 21:29:41 GMT
Post by paulcrossleyshair on May 19, 2019 21:29:41 GMT
Great stats and hilarious to see so many people on here slagging the top 3 on there and saying we should get rid.
Would love to see the stats on km run per game, I'd wager he'd top that one too
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May 20, 2019 6:06:00 GMT
Post by Lobster on May 20, 2019 6:06:00 GMT
Shows that Dieseruvwe did a bit more than he's given credit for as well. I didn't think it was any coincidence that Mooney had his best spell while he was around.
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May 20, 2019 7:53:53 GMT
Post by rcb on May 20, 2019 7:53:53 GMT
Interesting to see people talk about Mahon's lack of end product. as to fill up a boring Sunday afternoon I've gone through the Highlights of every goal last season to work out the assist statistics and as I suspected Mahon has been directly involved with more goals than any member of the squad. He can be frustrating but it's a disservice to him say he has no end product. For anyone interested here's the assists and goals chart. ibb.co/zmZ6Dw7
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May 20, 2019 7:58:29 GMT
Post by rcb on May 20, 2019 7:58:29 GMT
Great stats and hilarious to see so many people on here slagging the top 3 on there and saying we should get rid. Would love to see the stats on km run per game, I'd wager he'd top that one too Usain Bolt is a good runner, but didn’t do too well in his football career.
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May 20, 2019 9:44:42 GMT
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Post by bitbbh on May 20, 2019 9:44:42 GMT
Interesting to see people talk about Mahon's lack of end product. as to fill up a boring Sunday afternoon I've gone through the Highlights of every goal last season to work out the assist statistics and as I suspected Mahon has been directly involved with more goals than any member of the squad. He can be frustrating but it's a disservice to him say he has no end product. For anyone interested here's the assists and goals chart. ibb.co/zmZ6Dw7Burton and Green proving every one right. Quite ironic really that Burton had a go at Mahon for only putting in a shift at home when he didn't do it either home or away. Really shocked that we have given him a two year deal he really has got to step up next season. I'm hoping he turns into the central midfielder that Tom Shaw was after a very indifferent start to his Chester career.
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May 20, 2019 9:50:30 GMT
Post by rcb on May 20, 2019 9:50:30 GMT
Interesting to see people talk about Mahon's lack of end product. as to fill up a boring Sunday afternoon I've gone through the Highlights of every goal last season to work out the assist statistics and as I suspected Mahon has been directly involved with more goals than any member of the squad. He can be frustrating but it's a disservice to him say he has no end product. For anyone interested here's the assists and goals chart. ibb.co/zmZ6Dw7Burton and Green proving every one right. Quite ironic really that Burton had a go at Mahon for only putting in a shift at home when he didn't do it either home or away. Really shocked that we have given him a two year deal he really has got to step up next season. I'm hoping he turns into the central midfielder that Tom Shaw was after a very indifferent start to his Chester career. Surely we are not giving away two year contracts again.
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May 20, 2019 11:24:16 GMT
Post by jb on May 20, 2019 11:24:16 GMT
How many of last season's squad are now signed up? Thought Noel and Liam said there was only going to be 6 or 7 offered new contracts? Plus Matty Hughes and Gary Roberts are waiting in the wings.
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May 20, 2019 11:33:15 GMT
Post by uptheseals on May 20, 2019 11:33:15 GMT
Interesting to see people talk about Mahon's lack of end product. as to fill up a boring Sunday afternoon I've gone through the Highlights of every goal last season to work out the assist statistics and as I suspected Mahon has been directly involved with more goals than any member of the squad. He can be frustrating but it's a disservice to him say he has no end product. For anyone interested here's the assists and goals chart. ibb.co/zmZ6Dw7Our most important player fact way better stats then the 'Messiah' Gary Roberts who rarely anyone says a bad word about
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on May 20, 2019 11:37:45 GMT
How many of last season's squad are now signed up? Thought Noel and Liam said there was only going to be 6 or 7 offered new contracts? Plus Matty Hughes and Gary Roberts are waiting in the wings. Why would you take what a manager said in haste after a disappointing result minutes after the final whistle, referring to the players who played that match, as a given? I’m happy with the signings we’ve made so far. Great basis for the squad. As for RCB’s sad witch-hunt on Mahon, you’re in a minority pal.
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May 20, 2019 12:00:42 GMT
Post by Hannibal on May 20, 2019 12:00:42 GMT
How many of last season's squad are now signed up? Thought Noel and Liam said there was only going to be 6 or 7 offered new contracts? Plus Matty Hughes and Gary Roberts are waiting in the wings. Why would you take what a manager said in haste after a disappointing result minutes after the final whistle, referring to the players who played that match, as a given? I’m happy with the signings we’ve made so far. Great basis for the squad. As for RCB’s sad witch-hunt on Mahon, you’re in a minority pal. I doubt the majority would have been too concerned if he'd been released.
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May 20, 2019 12:02:16 GMT
Post by Lobster on May 20, 2019 12:02:16 GMT
Interesting to see people talk about Mahon's lack of end product. as to fill up a boring Sunday afternoon I've gone through the Highlights of every goal last season to work out the assist statistics and as I suspected Mahon has been directly involved with more goals than any member of the squad. He can be frustrating but it's a disservice to him say he has no end product. For anyone interested here's the assists and goals chart. ibb.co/zmZ6Dw7Our most important player fact way better stats then the 'Messiah' Gary Roberts who rarely anyone says a bad word about Think it should be remembered that wingers and forwards are always going to have more assists to their name than central midfielders. Same applies to Burton and Green.
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May 20, 2019 12:48:42 GMT
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Post by Al on May 20, 2019 12:48:42 GMT
Our most important player fact way better stats then the 'Messiah' Gary Roberts who rarely anyone says a bad word about Think it should be remembered that wingers and forwards are always going to have more assists to their name than central midfielders. Same applies to Burton and Green. Explain Paul Pogbas stats for United this season then.. Top of their assists chart, top scorer as well I believe as well and he's a centre mid
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Post by histsci on May 20, 2019 13:03:19 GMT
Interesting to see people talk about Mahon's lack of end product. as to fill up a boring Sunday afternoon I've gone through the Highlights of every goal last season to work out the assist statistics and as I suspected Mahon has been directly involved with more goals than any member of the squad. He can be frustrating but it's a disservice to him say he has no end product. For anyone interested here's the assists and goals chart. ibb.co/zmZ6Dw7Thanks very much for doing that, it's really interesting. I think that it's significant to factor in the games played to this too. According to the official website, Mahon's played 37 games this season, starting 34 times. With 14 assists and 5 goals he's contributing directly to goals scored by the team in about half of the games he plays. Forget debates about position or cutting in side or whatever, I don't really think you can expect more from a winger. Mahon has consistently delivered this season. I'm delighted he's re-signed.
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May 20, 2019 13:51:45 GMT
Post by jb on May 20, 2019 13:51:45 GMT
How many of last season's squad are now signed up? Thought Noel and Liam said there was only going to be 6 or 7 offered new contracts? Plus Matty Hughes and Gary Roberts are waiting in the wings. Why would you take what a manager said in haste after a disappointing result minutes after the final whistle, referring to the players who played that match, as a given? I’m happy with the signings we’ve made so far. Great basis for the squad. As for RCB’s sad witch-hunt on Mahon, you’re in a minority pal. Probably because it was because after a game in which Stockport made it look like Men v's Boys. It was an inexcusable performance. That game was so one sided it was beyond belief. It was a shocking performance and it couldn't be called a one off given the performances v Blyth, Dunston, Kiderminster etc. Now it looks like the vast majority of that team has been retained. I take it that out of those who started only McKenna has been released? Wait for Shenton to announce he has signed a new contract, this board will go into meltdown!
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May 20, 2019 14:12:16 GMT
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Post by dmcnally on May 20, 2019 14:12:16 GMT
Why would you take what a manager said in haste after a disappointing result minutes after the final whistle, referring to the players who played that match, as a given? I’m happy with the signings we’ve made so far. Great basis for the squad. As for RCB’s sad witch-hunt on Mahon, you’re in a minority pal. Probably because it was because after a game in which Stockport made it look like Men v's Boys. It was an inexcusable performance. That game was so one sided it was beyond belief. It was a shocking performance and it couldn't be called a one off given the performances v Blyth, Dunston, Kiderminster etc. Now it looks like the vast majority of that team has been retained. I take it that out of those who started only McKenna has been released? Wait for Shenton to announce he has signed a new contract, this board will go into meltdown! From the squad v Stockport, McKenna and Mcallister gone, Shenton going, Howson, Green and Mooney gone from the bench. Also worth noting we won’t have Jackson at right back like then.
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Post by MPW on May 20, 2019 14:45:22 GMT
Probably because it was because after a game in which Stockport made it look like Men v's Boys. It was an inexcusable performance. That game was so one sided it was beyond belief. It was a shocking performance and it couldn't be called a one off given the performances v Blyth, Dunston, Kiderminster etc. Now it looks like the vast majority of that team has been retained. I take it that out of those who started only McKenna has been released? Wait for Shenton to announce he has signed a new contract, this board will go into meltdown! From the squad v Stockport, McKenna and Mcallister gone, Shenton going, Howson, Green and Mooney gone from the bench. Also worth noting we won’t have Jackson at right back like then. So Shentons going then?
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Post by nytram on May 20, 2019 15:36:23 GMT
Mahon is our greatest Chester FC player. We know about Horan and Wilde and numerous other players who have played for us and moved on. Mahon though still proves he is a class winger. Plus I'm a great one for loyalty. Those stats are great to see. Now can we have him on the left wing coming inside and shooting into the top corner and not playing on the right wing as much.
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May 20, 2019 15:52:38 GMT
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Post by bluemission on May 20, 2019 15:52:38 GMT
Interesting to see people talk about Mahon's lack of end product. as to fill up a boring Sunday afternoon I've gone through the Highlights of every goal last season to work out the assist statistics and as I suspected Mahon has been directly involved with more goals than any member of the squad. He can be frustrating but it's a disservice to him say he has no end product. For anyone interested here's the assists and goals chart. ibb.co/zmZ6Dw7Burton and Green proving every one right. Quite ironic really that Burton had a go at Mahon for only putting in a shift at home when he didn't do it either home or away. Really shocked that we have given him a two year deal he really has got to step up next season. I'm hoping he turns into the central midfielder that Tom Shaw was after a very indifferent start to his Chester career. It’s a one year deal not 2
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May 20, 2019 15:56:23 GMT
Post by happyclapper on May 20, 2019 15:56:23 GMT
How many of last season's squad are now signed up? Thought Noel and Liam said there was only going to be 6 or 7 offered new contracts? Plus Matty Hughes and Gary Roberts are waiting in the wings. Why would you take what a manager said in haste after a disappointing result minutes after the final whistle, referring to the players who played that match, as a given? I’m happy with the signings we’ve made so far. Great basis for the squad. As for RCB’s sad witch-hunt on Mahon, you’re in a minority pal. That I see as an issue though. They are offering sound bites to the fans and reporters and then not backing that up with action. You bite your tongue to the press and you let rip at the players in private and do the deeds there, not come out with narrative that you think will appease people. It actually diminishes their authority in my view with those players when they say only x number will be retained OR as they did after the Blyth debacle earlier in the season say that some of these players will never pull a shirt on again for the club and lo and behold they all did play again! What must those players think? ah its okay the bosses won't do that to us because they've said it before and done the opposite. They need to be more savvy about what they say no matter how pissed off with a performance they are. Before anyone says im talking them down I think they actually did a half decent job last season, I was surprised we got as close to the play off's as we did especially after the injuries to two key players.
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May 20, 2019 16:05:15 GMT
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Post by devadiva on May 20, 2019 16:05:15 GMT
Interesting to see people talk about Mahon's lack of end product. as to fill up a boring Sunday afternoon I've gone through the Highlights of every goal last season to work out the assist statistics and as I suspected Mahon has been directly involved with more goals than any member of the squad. He can be frustrating but it's a disservice to him say he has no end product. For anyone interested here's the assists and goals chart. ibb.co/zmZ6Dw7Did I imaging it or are we going to get those thingies that track players in games. Hope so as it will go some way to providing some objectivity to some of these debates.....anyone up for a Moneyball type of approach to next season?!
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Post by devadiva on May 20, 2019 16:08:36 GMT
Mahon is our greatest Chester FC player. We know about Horan and Wilde and numerous other players who have played for us and moved on. Mahon though still proves he is a class winger. Plus I'm a great one for loyalty. Those stats are great to see. Now can we have him on the left wing coming inside and shooting into the top corner and not playing on the right wing as much. I’m one of those that was sceptical about Mahon but the stats would appear to prove me wrong. Shows what I know. Now he’s back I hope we have Jacko in the other wing/swapping with Mahon from time to time. Think Jacko would complement him well in being more direct and (I think) better at crosses.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on May 20, 2019 16:35:32 GMT
Why would you take what a manager said in haste after a disappointing result minutes after the final whistle, referring to the players who played that match, as a given? I’m happy with the signings we’ve made so far. Great basis for the squad. As for RCB’s sad witch-hunt on Mahon, you’re in a minority pal. That I see as an issue though. They are offering sound bites to the fans and reporters and then not backing that up with action. You bite your tongue to the press and you let rip at the players in private and do the deeds there, not come out with narrative that you think will appease people. It actually diminishes their authority in my view with those players when they say only x number will be retained OR as they did after the Blyth debacle earlier in the season say that some of these players will never pull a shirt on again for the club and lo and behold they all did play again! What must those players think? ah its okay the bosses won't do that to us because they've said it before and done the opposite. They need to be more savvy about what they say no matter how pissed off with a performance they are. Before anyone says im talking them down I think they actually did a half decent job last season, I was surprised we got as close to the play off's as we did especially after the injuries to two key players. Excellent point to be fair. Hope the LADS learn that lesson.
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May 20, 2019 16:48:25 GMT
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Post by bitbbh on May 20, 2019 16:48:25 GMT
Burton and Green proving every one right. Quite ironic really that Burton had a go at Mahon for only putting in a shift at home when he didn't do it either home or away. Really shocked that we have given him a two year deal he really has got to step up next season. I'm hoping he turns into the central midfielder that Tom Shaw was after a very indifferent start to his Chester career. It’s a one year deal not 2 It is probably the way i expressed it but he originally signed a two year deal, the first year being the season just gone. The second year of his deal is the 2019/2020 season. Not keen on that kind of deal for a player past his peak and in the twilight of his career. You would have thought we would have learned our lesson.
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May 20, 2019 17:23:05 GMT
Post by Lobster on May 20, 2019 17:23:05 GMT
Think it should be remembered that wingers and forwards are always going to have more assists to their name than central midfielders. Same applies to Burton and Green. Explain Paul Pogbas stats for United this season then.. Top of their assists chart, top scorer as well I believe as well and he's a centre mid Fair enough, there are exceptions. I should've said "usually" not "always". Pogba tends to try and do everything for them though. A lot of the goals they concede seem to be from him giving the ball away as well. Not saying the players mentioned are above criticism either, just that assists is probably not the fairest way to gauge their performance. You would think Claude Makelele was a pretty crap player if all you looked at were his career goals and assists.
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Post by Al on May 20, 2019 18:05:09 GMT
What you need to account for is a teams style of play. Mahon and Mooney are our top with the assists for us as generally we play a wide game, looking to stretch sides. Burton, Green, Stopforth, Roberts, the latter two were excellent at what they did but their role is not to get forward and constantly play through the middle. It's always about getting that ball wide and finding pockets of space behind full backs or by Mahon cutting inside and allowing the full back to push on the overlap.
The stats don't lie, Mahon is our most creative player and we would seriously miss that if he had left this summer. As we saw with McKenna when he came in from BPA a supposed top wide man at this level struggled to have any sort of impact compared to Mahon.
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Post by g1 on May 20, 2019 20:04:20 GMT
Mahon is our greatest Chester FC player. We know about Horan and Wilde and numerous other players who have played for us and moved on. Mahon though still proves he is a class winger. Plus I'm a great one for loyalty. Those stats are great to see. Now can we have him on the left wing coming inside and shooting into the top corner and not playing on the right wing as much. horan is Chester's greatest ever player since reforming he was a warrior a leader and has never been replaced in terms of leadership skills and certainly the most influential signing too
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