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Post by Maravilla on Apr 8, 2017 21:07:37 GMT
Thought we were very poor today. I'd have to agree that playing 4-5-1 at home was negative - obviously we are not privy to players fitness and any knocks they may be carrying, so that could explain the selection. I think it was obvious before the game we were going to play negatively though. McCarthy was lining it up in the week, saying how York have a squad now under Mills that would be in the play offs - in my opinion paying far too much respect to a team, that at the end of the day, were in the relegation zone going into the game. Not sure the thinking behind praising your opposition who are several places below you when you've already got a team low on confidence and needing a boost.
I'm not Hudson's biggest fan, and I think McCarthy's comments this week, if not to motivate him, were very misguided. His distribution was shocking again today, every time the ball comes to him in the air he has no sense of the time he has and just puts his foot or head through the ball, most of the time skewing off to an opposition player or out for a throw in. Thought McCarthy should have subbed him at half time as it was clear the crowd was turning on him.
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Post by Burger King on Apr 8, 2017 21:10:15 GMT
What happened between Morgan-Smith and George?
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Post by 1paulcarden on Apr 8, 2017 21:16:12 GMT
Thought we were very poor today. I'd have to agree that playing 4-5-1 at home was negative - obviously we are not privy to players fitness and any knocks they may be carrying, so that could explain the selection. I think it was obvious before the game we were going to play negatively though. McCarthy was lining it up in the week, saying how York have a squad now under Mills that would be in the play offs - in my opinion paying far too much respect to a team, that at the end of the day, were in the relegation zone going into the game. Not sure the thinking behind praising your opposition who are several places below you when you've already got a team low on confidence and needing a boost. I'm not Hudson's biggest fan, and I think McCarthy's comments this week, if not to motivate him, were very misguided. His distribution was shocking again today, every time the ball comes to him in the air he has no sense of the time he has and just puts his foot or head through the ball, most of the time skewing off to an opposition player or out for a throw in. Thought McCarthy should have subbed him at half time as it was clear the crowd was turning on him. I'd agree with that. Loads of talk of 'best signing' Blaine Hudson in the terrace every time he made a mistake today (which was every couple of minutes). An odd and embarrassing thing for McCarthy to come out with. If he really thinks Hudson is the best player he has signed we may as well all give up and go home now. Can't pass, tackle or head. |
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Post by Jack on Apr 8, 2017 21:25:03 GMT
I think there have been positive aspects to this season and I don't believe in any way that sacking JM is the right move. That being said, today was an unbelievably poor performance.
McCarthy is clearly stuck in a bit of a rut, in a similar way that Burr was about this time last season. Every week is a slight change in formation with different personnel, the players look confused as to what they are being asked to do. What was the formation today? It was bizarrely negative against a team whose confidence would have been fragile after their Bromley result. If you're going to play 1 up top at home, you absolutely need support from the wide areas and your number 10 to be pushed right up for a flick-on or knock down. Neither of those things happened and we seemed to have Waters and Lloyd unwilling to cross the half way line and Durrell consistently 20 feet away from the big man.
The pattern was infuriating. Lynch to Astles, to Hunt, back to Astles, to Hunt, to Dawson, back to Astles, hoofed up for their thrown in. There was no visible plan of attack to get behind them, down the side of them or even over the top of them. It was completely rudderless.
York were a pretty average team I thought with a very good striker up top. We just didn't lay a glove on them. Statistics and budgets are all well and good but ultimately, football should be about entertainment, crosses into the box and players flooding forward. We had none of those things and it was really dour.
JM's faith in his players is admirable and he's clearly fostered a good team spirit. I agree with him that wholesale changes are not needed, but surely he must see that some players simply don't give us value for money. Hudson is okay on a good day but we must be able to find a younger, better model? George has had his chances now. Richards is fine, if he's an option off the bench but we need more depth up front.
Until the end of the season, particularly at home, we NEED to finish strongly. 2 more performances like that will see the season end on a very flat note and I wouldn't like to speculate how poor our season ticket sales will be.
A lot of our downfall can be pin-pointed to Craig Mahon getting injured, we've lost all spark without him.
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Post by sirfred on Apr 8, 2017 21:34:35 GMT
To be honest if they play like that for the remaining games we could be dragged into a relegation battle last game of season
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Post by MPW on Apr 8, 2017 21:44:13 GMT
We've got too many players whose level is Conf North or Welsh Premier at best. Hudson is one of the worst players I've seen play for us, yet Macca says he has been his best signing, which says it all.
It's become plainly obvious that Sharps was key to our organisation and tactics. Macca has been found out since Sharps left and we've not come anywhere near the level of performances that gave us so much optimism earlier in the season. I know we've had more than our fair share of injuries, but I think Macca was naive to think he could get away without strengthening after Christmas.
If you listen to his post match interviews, he always refuses to criticise his players even after performances like today, although to be fair, I think he got his selection and tactics totally wrong. He just harps on about what they've achieved earlier in the season, which is ridiculous.
The end of season can't come soon enough!!
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Post by Si on Apr 8, 2017 21:53:59 GMT
Thought we were very poor today. I'd have to agree that playing 4-5-1 at home was negative - obviously we are not privy to players fitness and any knocks they may be carrying, so that could explain the selection. I think it was obvious before the game we were going to play negatively though. McCarthy was lining it up in the week, saying how York have a squad now under Mills that would be in the play offs - in my opinion paying far too much respect to a team, that at the end of the day, were in the relegation zone going into the game. Not sure the thinking behind praising your opposition who are several places below you when you've already got a team low on confidence and needing a boost. I'm not Hudson's biggest fan, and I think McCarthy's comments this week, if not to motivate him, were very misguided. His distribution was shocking again today, every time the ball comes to him in the air he has no sense of the time he has and just puts his foot or head through the ball, most of the time skewing off to an opposition player or out for a throw in. Thought McCarthy should have subbed him at half time as it was clear the crowd was turning on him. I'd agree with that. Loads of talk of 'best signing' Blaine Hudson in the terrace every time he made a mistake today (which was every couple of minutes). An odd and embarrassing thing for McCarthy to come out with. If he really thinks Hudson is the best player he has signed we may as well all give up and go home now. Can't pass, tackle or head. The Hudson comments from him were bizarre, and it's had a negative effect as it seems to have put pressure on the lad himself and invites sarcastic comments from the crowd. He isn't good enough, I've watched football for long enough to have a qualified opinion and for Macca to say he was the best signing is borderline offensive! |
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Post by Flicker's Left Foot on Apr 8, 2017 22:07:25 GMT
I don't think the players are primarily at fault for today's performance. Waters is left footed, he clearly wasn't comfortable staying wide right and we had no width on either side. Where was Durrell playing?
I feel for James Alabi who was himself having to come wide to get the ball as well as chasing any number of lost causes.
He could have played the back 4 of the unbeaten run today, but again went with Hudson and wasted Sam at right- back . Play your best player in his best position.
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Post by Derry Blue on Apr 8, 2017 22:55:48 GMT
Keep mcarthy and certainties for relegation next season, should of been sacked long ago Have I just travelled back in time twelve months, we were definitely going down this season because Mcarthy was appointed as manager! We keep telling you we're only safe because of what Sharps did. Next season without him and relying on McCarthy we're going to be in real trouble. |
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Post by dmcnally on Apr 8, 2017 22:57:44 GMT
Win or lose, I'm backing the Blues. Onto a tough game against FGR. Lincoln first mate. You're right. My apologies. Would be great to get anything from this. On another note, when was the last time we DREW a match? We only win or lose...strange. |
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Post by Anders on Apr 8, 2017 23:03:31 GMT
You're right. My apologies. Would be great to get anything from this. On another note, when was the last time we DREW a match? We only win or lose...strange. Wrexham at home. |
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Post by sqzl on Apr 8, 2017 23:05:24 GMT
Get back to basics 4-4-2. Durrell isn't a good enough player to build a team around as a number 10. Hudson is average but I think criticism has been escalated by JMs comments, whether he was trying to boost the lads confidence or not. It reminds me of Rooney, every mistake he made people whinged like mad.
Disappointing to lose, but to lose with such a lack of ideas hurts even more. We look disjointed and everyone's scared to try anything. I think we need to seriously look at going back to basics as well as binning a fair few players this summer. What worries me, is who JM signs, given that his record is very hit and miss so far and he's not signed a single player than can score goals so far. Maybe a tad harsh as we've not seen enough of akintunde.
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Post by Fed up on Apr 8, 2017 23:31:06 GMT
Macca's never explained his logic of playing just one up front. Nobody else in the whole of Chester can understand it. There should be some way for a fan-owned club to be able to find this out and put pressure on to either change the system or change the management.
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Post by A. N. Other on Apr 8, 2017 23:37:07 GMT
6 hours ago blue4life said:
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He never found a Chester player the entire match. Consistently passed to a York player.
Every attack broke down at him.
You must of been watching a different game to me, thought Dawson was our best player until the useless cunt McCarthy decided to take him off.
McCarthy out.
Completely agree. Dawson was one of the only players who wanted the ball and tried to pass. To say he is the worst ever Chester player beggars believe.
Mods, while I agree a light touch is essential, I'm surprised you've allowed this word twice on page 2 of the thread.
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Post by Hannibal on Apr 9, 2017 3:24:11 GMT
Dawson the best player ... give me strength.
A headless chicken who set up most of the York attacks.
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Post by ted the count on Apr 9, 2017 3:40:47 GMT
Might be harsh but the thought of Richards being here next season send's shiver's down my back. Oh and if the player's do read this forum BOO F.... HOO - Grow some bollock's and show us you have a clue. Best way to silence yer critic's is on the pitch....so over to you lad's  |
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Post by waggoner2 on Apr 9, 2017 6:23:20 GMT
To be honest if they play like that for the remaining games we could be dragged into a relegation battle last game of season i dont think we can go down now |
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Post by billyw on Apr 9, 2017 6:57:11 GMT
Have I just travelled back in time twelve months, we were definitely going down this season because Mcarthy was appointed as manager! We keep telling you we're only safe because of what Sharps did. Next season without him and relying on McCarthy we're going to be in real trouble. Spot on. We had that long unbeaten run earlier in the season and within a month of Sharps going we bacame a disorganised rabble. Coincidence - I think not. The players didn't become crap overnight so surely while McCarthy may be a nice bloke, it is apparent to many that he is not up to the job. i expect he will be told about all the negative posts on here but I notice that not even the usual 'Jon' fans have come out in support of him tonight. |
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Post by billyw on Apr 9, 2017 7:12:48 GMT
To be honest if they play like that for the remaining games we could be dragged into a relegation battle last game of season i dont think we can go down now Yes we can. We are safe only if two of York, Braintree and Woking fail to win 3 of their last 4 games. |
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Post by Rio Doherty on Apr 9, 2017 8:37:08 GMT
It's only just come to mind but the York game was our last Saturday 3PM kick-off of the season.
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Post by steveo1 on Apr 9, 2017 8:48:56 GMT
You're right. My apologies. Would be great to get anything from this. On another note, when was the last time we DREW a match? We only win or lose...strange. We never comeback from behind to win, have we all season. When we go behind we lose. |
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Post by Disgruntled on Apr 9, 2017 9:12:32 GMT
Today's performance was a disgrace and Mcarthy should apologise to fans ! York were a poor team but wanted it more than us and we were lucky to only lose 2 nil, I can't believe our manager thinks we're having a decent season and wants to keep these players !!!! Mcarthy's job must be under threat now as this cannot continue , he would have been sacked at most clubs for this form. If most of this squad are kept on for next season we are certs for relegation and crowds will be very poor! We play dire football and never attack teams or look like scoring , at the moment we are one of the worst teams in the league! Rumours today of rises in tickets for next season are surely not correct ? If true fans will vote with their feet , I would expect to see big incentives towards season tickets and pay on day deals not rises ! Mark Mcguire is doing nothing to stop falling gates despite allegedly having big plans ! If squad is kept on and no ticket deals announced I will not be renewing my season ticket along with many others fans I know , will be picking and choosing my games ! This club is not moving forward or building at all it's regressing ! He should certainly make a public apology to Shunter Blue |
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Post by Browser on Apr 9, 2017 10:32:46 GMT
Not sure what our record low crowd is for an afternoon home league game since reforming, but I can see it being broken against Woking on Easter Monday.
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Post by paulie on Apr 9, 2017 10:45:07 GMT
Not sure what our record low crowd is for an afternoon home league game since reforming, but I can see it being broken against Woking on Easter Monday. The blues bar is free entrance now till the end of the season. Will put a couple of hundred more on the gate 🤔 |
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Post by Blue 2 on Apr 9, 2017 11:08:43 GMT
All those people that were say in john we believe lol have you changed your mind fans need a meeting as the hole shower that is running our club are destroying what we have built its going backwards fast mcCarthy a big mistake get him out
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Post by archwhopper on Apr 9, 2017 11:14:13 GMT
you'll need plenty of ale before watching that crap, sooner the money comes in for sam the better, pay up the clowns contract , get somebody in with at least half a clue, move on most of the rabble that we call a squad, wave a magic wand, hey presto we'll still find something to moan about woooooaaaahhh
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2017 12:30:09 GMT
You can really sense now that the fans are beginning to turn against Macca and rightly so after yesterday's abysmal performance.
Yet again tactically inept - Alabi on his own, huge gaps between "midfield" and defence, hoofball to a striker who we all know is weak when it comes to headers, no width etc etc.
Yet again an apparent complete lack of motivation of the players - are they actually really playing for him now?
Yet again out-muscled by a team with loads more aggression and desire - I get a sense of impending doom when I see a team of large intimidating players like York had yesterday - it's the norm in this league
The list goes on!
Thing is that we can all see it!
I've suggested before that he's probably reached his plateau. Without a PROPER assistant both Macca and the team will not progress (assuming he stays in the job)
The Board have to be planning for next season and surely the manager's situation should be right up there.
This season, York got themselves in a dreadful position before "investing" in the players e.g Parkin to get them out of it and it's looking like paying off
WE HAVEN'T GOT THAT LUXURY so we must start well next season otherwise I think we're doomed to struggle. Despite being generally supportive of Macca, I'm now of the opinion that a change, either with assistance for him or a parting of the ways is not just desirable but ESSENTIAL for our survival next term
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Post by Hannibal on Apr 9, 2017 13:46:14 GMT
Not sure what our record low crowd is for an afternoon home league game since reforming, but I can see it being broken against Woking on Easter Monday. Our lowest crowd since reforming for a league home game was 1,392 v NFU, but that was a Tuesday night game. I doubt the Woking attendance will be lower than that. My concern is next season as I doubt we'll sell 500 season tickets for next season, if the current squad is largely retained. We'll be looking at average attendances next season of 1,500 if we're lucky. |
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Post by Hannibal on Apr 9, 2017 13:52:41 GMT
Enjoy looking at the positive goal difference of +1 tomorrow before it disappears..
What annoys me most about all this is we were 10 points ahead of the massive ones (same games) and even though their form is lower mid table they've caught up and overtaken us. It's happened in each of the last 3 seasons.
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Post by Hannibal on Apr 9, 2017 13:55:08 GMT
you'll need plenty of ale before watching that crap, sooner the money comes in for sam the better, pay up the clowns contract , get somebody in with at least half a clue, move on most of the rabble that we call a squad, wave a magic wand, hey presto we'll still find something to moan about woooooaaaahhh The money for Sam will have to be used to cover this season's expected loss and to cover the fall in attendances this season. |
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