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Post by Matt on Feb 1, 2020 17:11:21 GMT
What a truly awful week. It can't get any worse ~~ can it? I know it's all if's a but's but if we had collected 6 points this week, this is how close it would be, we're now that margin from 10th, it's that tight. 1 King's Lynn 60 2 York City 56 3 Chester 54 4 Boston United 50
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Post by Matt on Feb 1, 2020 17:11:51 GMT
Just wait 7 days H I can see Blyth starting their season next week we seem to be going downhill fast Just heard Kevin Ellison signing for us next week. Also heard that
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Post by gezzer on Feb 1, 2020 17:14:08 GMT
Griffiths, Grand, Livesey, Taylor, Morgan, Glendon, Ngwatala, Burton, Asante, Johnston, Jackson. SUBS: Jones, G Roberts, Stopforth, Dudley, K Roberts. Some big changes in there. Apart from Burton looks like next seasons possible line up if we can keep them. Oops. Probably not then
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 17:14:29 GMT
Well we've played everyone at least once and the highest placed team we've beaten is Guiseley who are in 9th. Surely this is not good enough without even considering that we've conceded 9 goals in the last 3 away games which includes a team in a step below. Added to this, York are a team who rarely score more than 1 or 2 goals per game yet we've seem to have gifted them 4 today. Our defence, much vaunted earlier in the season is beginning to look a touch vulnerable at just the point in time when we need to string some wins together.
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Post by tonya on Feb 1, 2020 17:17:15 GMT
Just heard Kevin Ellison signing for us next week. Also heard that Fantastic player but would he be up to it still?
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Post by Matt on Feb 1, 2020 17:19:20 GMT
Blyth (H) Alfreton (A) Kings Lynn (H) Brackley (H) Gateshead (H)
Our remaining fixtures for Feb, with the advantage of most at home this is the time to pick up a consistent run of results.
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Post by Matt on Feb 1, 2020 17:20:42 GMT
Fantastic player but would he be up to it still? Despite his age (40?) The guy is machine. He was playing in the EFL this season but only just fell out of favour with the management, the Morecambe fans are not happy with the way he's been treated, especially for all the time he's been there. A 2 league drop shouldn't be a problem for him at least for the remainder of the season.
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Post by tonya on Feb 1, 2020 17:38:40 GMT
Fantastic player but would he be up to it still? Despite his age (40?) The guy is machine. He was playing in the EFL this season but only just fell out of favour with the management, the Morecambe fans still are not happy with the way he's been treated, especially for all the time he's been there. A 2 league drop shouldn't be a problem for him at least for the remainder of the season. Great signing then. I remember watching him away in the cup at Bornmouth...best player on the pitch. Extremely strong and amazing shot on him. He used to drift past players at will.
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Post by sealking on Feb 1, 2020 17:53:09 GMT
Our biggest weakness is defending balls coming into the box! We panic like hell and seem to be all over the place, we quite rarely get opened up through the middle and concede it almost likely we will concede a goal from a ball from the wings.
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Post by lincolnexile on Feb 1, 2020 18:03:37 GMT
Despite his age (40?) The guy is machine. He was playing in the EFL this season but only just fell out of favour with the management, the Morecambe fans still are not happy with the way he's been treated, especially for all the time he's been there. A 2 league drop shouldn't be a problem for him at least for the remainder of the season. Great signing then. I remember watching him away in the cup at Bornmouth...best player on the pitch. Extremely strong and amazing shot on him. He used to drift past players at will. One of my favourite players. Remember him scoring away at Lincoln, where he’d played previously, and rather than not celebrate because he’d played for them, which is something I find really annoying. He stood in front of their fans with his back to them pointing at his name. I think he’ll be as important off the pitch and in the dressing room as on the pitch if this happens.
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Post by g1 on Feb 1, 2020 18:10:12 GMT
Poor from start to finish no complaints we can have no complaints some proved they weren't good enough can have a go at newton and McNulty all we want better than krusty and coco Elton awful grand shocking goalie awful Glendon crap this team will not go up
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Post by Hannibal on Feb 1, 2020 18:31:22 GMT
Poor from start to finish no complaints we can have no complaints some proved they weren't good enough can have a go at newton and McNulty all we want better than krusty and coco Elton awful grand shocking goalie awful Glendon crap this team will not go up Try putting some punctuation in there and I'll have a go at reading it?
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Post by tarvinblue on Feb 1, 2020 18:33:36 GMT
Poor all over the park this afternoon. It's hard to pick out the worst performers as so many were dreadful. Those first 3 goals were three of the worst I've seen us concede in recent times. Looks like we've turned JJ into a bad player, just like we have with so many others. Gave the ball away, ran down blind alleys and didn't fancy a tackle. Was much the same on his debut last Saturday.
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Post by btb on Feb 1, 2020 18:34:13 GMT
They’ve explained why they did it but I still find that team selection a bit strange, today. And we literally keep conceding the same types of goal over and over again. Isn’t that something that should be rectified either on the training ground or in the transfer market? Good run of home games now to put things right but we seem to take one step forward and then one step back. The same question marks remain for me. Last Saturday I thought we were superb and finally on track as a team. One week on and it’s back to the drawing board.
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Post by Harry Lime on Feb 1, 2020 18:38:05 GMT
It's not a surprise we didn't look good defensively if you look at that side. Only Grand, Livesey and Burton are at their best defending.
Morgan and Taylor are both better going forwards. Glendon and Elton are better with the ball, and don't really tackle. Two wingers and a Striker. Leaves you a real problem if you don't have the ball. Also not the biggest either. That causes real problems from set pieces.
Not saying we should set up like Stoke under Pulis. But you need to be strong and able to cope with the defensive side of the game. Gary Roberts for all the critisicm is very good at doing the hard yards covering the centre halves.
Personally i think Elton is another Jordan Chappell. If he's here next season I'd be amazed.
Last season we started changing everything around,and bringing in new players, and we got worse. Be interesting to see how things go from here.
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Post by sunking on Feb 1, 2020 18:51:20 GMT
How Griffis didn't save that 2nd goal is beyond me. I could of caught that with my eyes closed. What a gimp
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Post by yorkblue on Feb 1, 2020 18:57:41 GMT
I get the folly of playing two wingers against a 5 nan midfield and the set up was wrong when we needed to get a foothold and stifle them .. but the obvious issue is our poor young keeper who yet again proved not up to the big stage. You need to commend your six yard box if not the area .. and all our panic stems fin the defence having no confidence in him . He b m at be good in time but his inexperience is going to cost us big time. It was no surprise York had done their homework and clearly knew he was suspect on crosses. Yes Elton etc won't be here next year .. but it's not forwards we need it's a solid keeper to give us strength and confidence from the back.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 19:24:14 GMT
what has happened to matty waters.we got a lot more out of taylor when he played and his corners and free kicks are brilliant .also think altrincham got the best out of the johnson deal.bring back mahon
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Post by Wortleyblue on Feb 1, 2020 19:56:23 GMT
Blyth (H) Alfreton (A) Kings Lynn (H) Brackley (H) Gateshead (H) Our remaining fixtures for Feb, with the advantage of most at home this is the time to pick up a consistent run of results. I know I'm pissed off at the moment but I cant see more than 2 draws from that lot god I hope I'm wrong
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Post by MPW on Feb 1, 2020 20:01:02 GMT
Strange starting lineup and can’t help feeling it was a little naive tbh. Burton, Ngwatala & Morgan have barely had a look in in recent weeks, so why throw them all in for a big game such as this? We are a good team on our day, but we need pretty much everyone on it otherwise we struggle. We can’t seem to string any run of form together and we still don’t seem to know what our best starting XI is. I still think we’ll earn a playoff place, but I really can’t see us going up if we can’t string two decent performances together.
Next Saturday vs Blyth is already a must win game with some tough fixtures coming up.
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Post by btb on Feb 1, 2020 20:38:06 GMT
what has happened to matty waters.we got a lot more out of taylor when he played and his corners and free kicks are brilliant .also think altrincham got the best out of the johnson deal.bring back mahon The lads only been here for a little over a week! We’re all peed off. You may be proven right but give the lad a chance!
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Post by btb on Feb 1, 2020 20:40:07 GMT
Blyth (H) Alfreton (A) Kings Lynn (H) Brackley (H) Gateshead (H) Our remaining fixtures for Feb, with the advantage of most at home this is the time to pick up a consistent run of results. I know I'm pissed off at the moment but I cant see more than 2 draws from that lot god I hope I'm wrong We’ll beat Blyth surely. And other than kings Lynn I don’t see much to wet our knickers over. Always fancy us at home. It’s away that doesn’t convince me.
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Post by sammychester on Feb 1, 2020 20:48:33 GMT
What a turnout all that way
As for the game, what a horror show. Asking to concede.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Feb 1, 2020 21:06:32 GMT
We just never turn up to big games, and once again we failed today. Defensively we were tragic as we conceded four really soft goals, which needs sorting promptly. The two goals we conceded at Gateshead on Tuesday were preventable, especially their second which was a free header. I expected us to cut those mistakes out today, but we didn’t which brings great disappointment and frustration. We simply can’t make a single excuse about this, because we were beaten by the better side and have only ourselves to blame. The actual match itself was action-packed as there was plenty of drama, but unfortunately our poor showing has taken the gloss out of that. York City deservedly won today (as much as it pains me to say it), because they took advantage of our silly errors and had lots of confidence behind them. For us, though, we have missed another opportunity to take points off our play-off rivals for the second game in a row, as we now drop a place to 4th. The margins are very tight now, and we are far from secure as only four points separate us from 8th.
There were certainly plenty of talking points in the first period, but on the whole it was one to forget for us as we trailed by an emphatic scoreline at the break. It was the hosts who came out of the blocks earlier than us as they moved the ball around quickly and pressed us well. We struggled to get going as we were shaky at the back, and whenever we had the ball we lacked any ideas. New signing Kurt Willoughby was immediately involved for York City in the opening minute, as he scooped over from a corner to give us a warning sign. In the 4th minute we foreshadowed what was to come, as the first of a few nervy moments arrived as a mix-up between Russ Griffiths and Simon Grand resulted in Willoughby firing over. Our slow start turned into reality before the 10th minute, as Sean Newton headed in from a corner to make it 1-0 to York City - similar to Ruairi Keating’s goal on Tuesday. To our credit, we responded really well as Jamie Morgan bagged a superb goal for us to make it 1-1. We went on a brilliant counter attack as Akwasi Asante raced the ball up the pitch to Morgan, who cut inside to fire into the far left corner. In midfield we weren’t too bad after that, because we did make some good moves and passed the ball around quite well. However, our defensive problems were still evident as halfway though the half York City retook the lead to make it 2-1. Our attempt of clearing the ball away wouldn’t look out of place on a comedic sketch, as we headed the ball about 5 times only for it to remain in the penalty area, which resulted in Kieran Green picking up the pieces with a powerful header into the near corner. York City thought they increased their advantage five minutes later, but thankfully Jordan Burrow’s goal was disallowed for offside. We did show glimpses of promise on the ball as we actually played some decent stuff in possession, but our inaccurate crosses was our major downfall as the majority of them were either blocked or went wide. At the other end Burrow was involved again for our opponents, as a weak header by him was straight at Griffiths. Brad Jackson had a decent opportunity for us in front of the home faithful as he did really well to catch the ball on the volley, but Pete Jameson got down well to deny him. Seconds after Joel Taylor lashed a hit miles over, but things got from bad to worse at the other end as Kurt Willoughby made it 3-1 to York City. Once again it was an easy goal, as Green’s cross went in towards Willoughby who simply tapped in at the back post. We had a huge mountain to climb going into the second 45 as we made things very hard for ourselves.
The second half was less frantic, but we still offered very little up top, and on the wings we continued with our poor deliveries. Less than 10 minutes into the period George Glendon gave us a lifeline to make it 3-2, as he capitalised on a poor York City clearance to smash in. On the hour mark though, we received another sucker punch as Kurt Willoughby netted his second of the game to make it 4-2 to York City. The cross by Sean Newton went in which resulted in Kurt heading across the face of goal, whilst at the same time we backed off and failed to clear the ball away. To cap-off a forgettable day at the office, Jamie Morgan got sent off for us by picking up his second booking, which came to great shame considering he scored a lovely goal earlier on. York’s dominance continued as Willoughby was denied by Russ Griffiths, whilst Dan Maguire went close to adding further misery to us as he slotted past the post. With time ticking, Akwasi Asante was unable to grab a consolation as he lashed over following a long Joel Taylor throw. We didn’t get one, and overall we were simply not good enough as we deservedly recorded our first back-to-back defeats of the campaign.
I did say prior to this game that I wanted George Glendon to start, and fair play to our managers for picking him. I don’t agree with some of their other choices, but George played relatively well so I will opt for him as my man of the match. He was involved a lot on the ball, made a couple of nice moves, and pulled a goal back for us (it’s just a shame that we never kicked on from there). Elton Ngwatala made his first start for a while, and he didn’t have a bad game really as he was sharp like he was at Gateshead. I’m struggling to pick out many more positives really, because on the flip side the burden mostly lies with our defence. Simon Grand had his worst game in a while as his tracking back was poor, his headers were all over the place, and he gave the ball away too many times. Russ Griffiths has been very solid lately, but today and on Tuesday he brought back memories of earlier on in the season where he had very nervy moments. He was hesitant again today because he rarely went off his line for corners and crosses, which is one of the key aspects in goalkeeping. Something needs to be worked on in training as we can’t afford to have him making the same errors again, because other than that he is a good shot stopper. Scott Burton was pretty poor too, and I don’t understand why we thrown him straight into a huge game when he has been absent for months. I personally would have played Gary Roberts in place of him, and instead make Burton start next week against lesser opponents. He just didn’t do enough to impress me, because he was a bit too slow on the ball and gave it a way a tad too much.
Bitterly disappointed about how things fared on the pitch, because other than the game it was a brilliant day out. The atmosphere we generated was incredible (even when we were losing, which to be fair was most of the match). If only we could replicate that at home! I’m just beginning to feel a bit anxious as we have a real case to be looking over our shoulders now. It’s worthless looking too far above us as we are not going to finish in the top two, but the play-offs are ever so tight now. We have big games coming up against the likes of Gateshead, Brackley Town, Altrincham, and Boston United that will give us an idea on where we will end up. Our next match is on Saturday where we play Blyth Spartans at home where we must bounce back. We have recorded back-to-back defeats for the first time this season so I will be very interested to see how we respond. Blyth are fighting for their lives at the wrong end of the table so we must not underestimate them, otherwise we could be in for another Curzon Ashton. Hopefully, though, we will be on our game as on our day we can easily blitz teams apart.
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Post by bluemission on Feb 1, 2020 21:36:11 GMT
Interesting responses on here today , only real difference between the teams today was at set pieces where York had much better delivery and exploited some very poor defending at times from corners which has been uncharacteristic across the season.
The weather conditions meant this was never going to be a classic game for the purest and I understand bringing in Burton and Glendon given the miles covered by Stopforth and Roberts this week and both put in a reasonable performance.
Morgan’s sending off was daft and very similar to Telford in that the second was a booking for a foul he didn’t have to make in the middle third which killed the game off.
I thought we set up tactically a lot better than the home game with Akwasi dropping off which York struggled to deal with at times, Elton had his best game for us and was unlucky to be hooked after Half time as we tried to change shape.
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Post by Hannibal on Feb 1, 2020 21:41:32 GMT
Poor all over the park this afternoon. It's hard to pick out the worst performers as so many were dreadful. Those first 3 goals were three of the worst I've seen us concede in recent times. Looks like we've turned JJ into a bad player, just like we have with so many others. Gave the ball away, ran down blind alleys and didn't fancy a tackle. Was much the same on his debut last Saturday. He was anonymous at Gateshead.
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Post by Hannibal on Feb 1, 2020 21:44:40 GMT
Strange starting lineup and can’t help feeling it was a little naive tbh. Burton, Ngwatala & Morgan have barely had a look in in recent weeks, so why throw them all in for a big game such as this? We are a good team on our day, but we need pretty much everyone on it otherwise we struggle. We can’t seem to string any run of form together and we still don’t seem to know what our best starting XI is. I still think we’ll earn a playoff place, but I really can’t see us going up if we can’t string two decent performances together. Next Saturday vs Blyth is already a must win game with some tough fixtures coming up. I have always thought we'd make the play-offs albeit one of the lower places, not sure now after this week's 2 debacles.
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Post by tonya on Feb 1, 2020 21:46:04 GMT
Great signing then. I remember watching him away in the cup at Bornmouth...best player on the pitch. Extremely strong and amazing shot on him. He used to drift past players at will. One of my favourite players. Remember him scoring away at Lincoln, where he’d played previously, and rather than not celebrate because he’d played for them, which is something I find really annoying. He stood in front of their fans with his back to them pointing at his name. I think he’ll be as important off the pitch and in the dressing room as on the pitch if this happens. Agreed. Players at the club rated him very highly. Indeed i managed a few tickets off his nattes. He was way above our standard of play. Yet some fans on here didn't appreciate him. For a brief period with Lowe, Bolham and the French player we had they were the only footballing players we had. We were going through a torrid time then but they stood out.
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Post by billyw on Feb 1, 2020 21:56:21 GMT
I can understand Roberts and Stopforth being rested but doesn’t this prove that we have too many old legs in the team and need some younger blood in midfield and probably also the back four.
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Post by Harry Lime on Feb 1, 2020 22:58:50 GMT
I can understand Roberts and Stopforth being rested but doesn’t this prove that we have too many old legs in the team and need some younger blood in midfield and probably also the back four. Why didn't we rest them midweek then? After Tuesday I expected a few changes. But we went into a really big game, against a strong side, with a few players who haven't been playing. It's ok being fresh, but you need a side who've played together in those games. Teams who play 5 across the middle overrun us. Makes it tough for 2 in centre mid, and the centre halves. I'd argue it's the experienced centre halves that are probably the most consistent performers in this side.
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