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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 13:12:24 GMT
Reading the post-match posts (!) on here and ignoring the more manic comments, it seems that the overriding feeling is one of frustration. Frustration at our perpetual inconsistency and frustration at us, yet again, not "giving them a game". Listening yesterday and it seemed like we were never really in it. We really are a Jekyll and Hyde outfit, the much quoted "When we're good, we're good, when we're bad we're bloody awful"
But, I think a little realism is required. Away to a high flying, full time opposition with a mean defence and a manager who can even afford the time to watch us personally on Tuesday night and a result, whilst it would have been marvellous, was a big ask. But, yet again, it's the manner of the defeat that rankles me and, I suspect, many others and that is a major contributor to the frustration.
Maybe, just maybe, our current position + inconsistency + quality of player/manager is simply a reflection of where we are today as a club - better than many in this league but lacking the resources/setup to genuinely challenge for promotion vs e.g. York, KL.
Don't get me wrong, I want success and promotion as much as anyone and firmly believe that we'll get there sooner rather than later. But we're not there at the moment and it's going to be slow but steady (and sustainable) progress.
So, I resigned myself a few weeks ago to a playoff place rather than outright promotion but we need the highest possible finish. This is still distinctly possible but it needs the players and management to sort out the inconsistency and us, the fans, to back them to the hilt to help get us there
Keep the faith, folks.
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Post by brooklaneblue on Feb 2, 2020 13:20:14 GMT
I attended the game yesterday and although disappointed with the result we were beaten by a better team on the day, let remember we were underdog on the day in a lower league p0sition. The game was always open and at 1-1 and at 3-2 it could have end differently, York just dealt with difficult situations better than we did. However I feel we did assist our own downfall with poor defending , yesterday it was really shocking, no just the defending I recall one back past could have ended with another goal. I also agree with a previous post, we lack a natural leader on the pitch we don't have that authority as seen with McNulty yester day at 4-2 indicated to his players to keep the lid on it.
Tactically at times i like what our keeper does but feel he could show a some dominance in his area after all he's a big lad, he seldom leaves his line for corners and is not very vocal, he needs to grow his confidence as I feel he's an improvement on past season's, does he receive any keeper coaching from Greenville?
Their scouts did a job on Brad Jackson, every time he had the ball at his feet he had two players on him hence probably his movement around the pitch. Asante does not look fully fit and maybe playing A.D. from the start may have been prudent also sending Elliot out has been a positive move and could pay dividends on his return with the end of season run in.
The sending off was a pointless challenge in the oppositions area was totally mindless, this lads has been sent off twice now, again he has the making of a good creative player if coached and managed correctly.
On the whole it was not a capitulation we lost by 2 goals to a better side on the day and lets face facts, if you want to support a side that wins every game support Liverpool.
BLB.
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Post by steveo1 on Feb 2, 2020 14:12:59 GMT
Just found the stomach to see them goals again. An absolute horror show from certain individuals.
All four goals could have been easily preventable.
Goal 1 - Simple corner swung in, Burton doesn’t do enough and Newton guides an easy header towards back post, no one even close to a back post. Basics. Keeper rooted to the spot, it’s only 6 yards out max but similar to Gateshead doesn’t come.
Goal 2 - Worst of the lot, From one free kick and two corners of pressure. Griffiths parrying out free kick when he could have easily caught it. From that we have Grand getting twisted and turned about 3 times before ball comes back in the box and goes for corner, corner not cleared goes for another corner, corner in not cleared then 3 attempts to header it away from Grand, Asante and Burton all failed before green scores, Griffiths at no point comes out of his goal to command despite it being about 4 yards out.
Goal 3. The lad green strides through a number of bodies, burton does nothing in an attempt to stop the cross, Taylor tries to clear but keeper yet again stuck on his line, easy tap in
Goal 4 newton carries the ball from halfway line and shot parried out back to newton, why isn’t the keeper catching it. Newton swings a lovely ball but Willoughby is unmarked.
A disgrace of a performance defensive wise. Livesey or Grand need a break, bring Jones in who has done fine when asked to play.
This game was lost in the week by playing the same players at Gateshead, the managers haven’t learned from the 3 games in a week at Christmas and remained to loyal to a winning team. Happened v Curzon, happened again this week. 2/3 changes at Gateshead and then a full 11 yesterday, put in Roberts and Stopforth with Jones I think we could have got a result as possession and play was fairly even.
We badly need a younger mobile defender alongside one of Grand and Livesey, in games like yesterday where good players are coming forward and the game is stretched they struggle bad.
Same situation in the centre midfield although I do like Glendon and think he was one of the few to come away with credit.
York clearly done there homework on us. Stopped Taylor and Jackson. When Taylor got forward we scored, barely had much quality in the box all day from the left and Jackson wasn’t giving a man inch.
I like Morgan but got to grow up. Burton can go in the bin, 18 months jolly taking home a wage, the keeper was awful but needs to stand up these last few months as he would be on his own way for me. Elton technically good but needs fitness and games if we are ever to see anything productive..
Great day and superb support of 700, deserve better.
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Post by devadiva on Feb 2, 2020 14:44:23 GMT
Let’s face it - York were the better team and deserved to win. But fair dos to Jonno for coming to talk to us after the game.
- their midfield bossed ours, were more physical and their front two made intelligent runs and had our defence in all sorts of trouble. - it didn’t help that the defence were not as dominant in the air as usual - Griffiths and defence were not talking. The difference between their keeper and Griffiths in terms of communication was palpable - Jackson was doubled up on - Johnston tried hard but as per his debut, he lost the ball a lot and ran into dead ends. He drifted into the middle towards the end which left us exposed on the left and led to their third - Elton looked lively and was most creative in midfield until subbed off - Jamie Morgan has a good game as well. I really like the way he livens things up. It as per Kiddy he had a good game until sent off. Even tho the second yellow was a bit harsh he needs to learn to curb it - even though he was trying to make the best of his chance to book a place in the starting line up. - in the end we were let down by our inability to defend set pieces - especially corners (which feel like they account for 50% of the goals we concede). It’s been like that all season and I wish we’d get that sorted. For also how an experienced defence I don’t understand why we can’t do that.
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Post by dmcnally on Feb 2, 2020 14:54:09 GMT
Struggled to create much against Gateshead and York who both use a 3/5 at the back system. We changed to that ourselves second half yesterday to match it, so I’d like to see us start with Kev Roberts at RCB in a back three if we’re against this system again, or these teams again in the playoffs. Morgan and Taylor would certainly benefit from having the license to get forward.
Their second belongs on @crap90sfootball, the fourth, letting a 5ft8 lad have a free header from 6 yards... painful to watch.
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Post by Harry Lime on Feb 2, 2020 16:04:41 GMT
Struggled to create much against Gateshead and York who both use a 3/5 at the back system. We changed to that ourselves second half yesterday to match it, so I’d like to see us start with Kev Roberts at RCB in a back three if we’re against this system again, or these teams again in the playoffs. Morgan and Taylor would certainly benefit from having the license to get forward. Their second belongs on @crap90sfootball, the fourth, letting a 5ft8 lad have a free header from 6 yards... painful to watch. We look like we've got the players to play 3/5 at the back. However, FC United especially and 1874 Northwich pre season were a warning sign. Maybe we only play it to match up the opposition? We seem to be in danger of losing the Bern and Jonno style of team, and trying to be something else, as we're signing a different type of player. That maybe progression. It may also leave us as neither one thing or the other. More skilful with the ball. More vulnerable and flimsy without it. The goals we concede from set pieces is mainly down to a lack of good markers and headers. Take out Livesey and Grand, who else would you trust to mark? Teams can avoid those two, and overload areas. Imo we're not physically strong enough to mark.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Feb 2, 2020 16:51:38 GMT
My match vlog:
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Post by Lobster on Feb 2, 2020 17:08:56 GMT
We are a strange team. I wouldn't call us Jekyll & Hyde. I think we're 90% fairly solid - rarely brilliant but able to score goals, hardworking and tough to play against. But then the other 10% we're as bad as anything you'll ever see, at any level! Unfortunately it's 10% that tend to stick in the memory.
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Post by billyw on Feb 2, 2020 17:09:12 GMT
We just never turn up to big games, and once again we failed today. Defensively we were tragic as we conceded four really soft goals, which needs sorting promptly. The two goals we conceded at Gateshead on Tuesday were preventable, especially their second which was a free header. I expected us to cut those mistakes out today, but we didn’t which brings great disappointment and frustration. We simply can’t make a single excuse about this, because we were beaten by the better side and have only ourselves to blame. The actual match itself was action-packed as there was plenty of drama, but unfortunately our poor showing has taken the gloss out of that. York City deservedly won today (as much as it pains me to say it), because they took advantage of our silly errors and had lots of confidence behind them. For us, though, we have missed another opportunity to take points off our play-off rivals for the second game in a row, as we now drop a place to 4th. The margins are very tight now, and we are far from secure as only four points separate us from 8th. There were certainly plenty of talking points in the first period, but on the whole it was one to forget for us as we trailed by an emphatic scoreline at the break. It was the hosts who came out of the blocks earlier than us as they moved the ball around quickly and pressed us well. We struggled to get going as we were shaky at the back, and whenever we had the ball we lacked any ideas. New signing Kurt Willoughby was immediately involved for York City in the opening minute, as he scooped over from a corner to give us a warning sign. In the 4th minute we foreshadowed what was to come, as the first of a few nervy moments arrived as a mix-up between Russ Griffiths and Simon Grand resulted in Willoughby firing over. Our slow start turned into reality before the 10th minute, as Sean Newton headed in from a corner to make it 1-0 to York City - similar to Ruairi Keating’s goal on Tuesday. To our credit, we responded really well as Jamie Morgan bagged a superb goal for us to make it 1-1. We went on a brilliant counter attack as Akwasi Asante raced the ball up the pitch to Morgan, who cut inside to fire into the far left corner. In midfield we weren’t too bad after that, because we did make some good moves and passed the ball around quite well. However, our defensive problems were still evident as halfway though the half York City retook the lead to make it 2-1. Our attempt of clearing the ball away wouldn’t look out of place on a comedic sketch, as we headed the ball about 5 times only for it to remain in the penalty area, which resulted in Kieran Green picking up the pieces with a powerful header into the near corner. York City thought they increased their advantage five minutes later, but thankfully Jordan Burrow’s goal was disallowed for offside. We did show glimpses of promise on the ball as we actually played some decent stuff in possession, but our inaccurate crosses was our major downfall as the majority of them were either blocked or went wide. At the other end Burrow was involved again for our opponents, as a weak header by him was straight at Griffiths. Brad Jackson had a decent opportunity for us in front of the home faithful as he did really well to catch the ball on the volley, but Pete Jameson got down well to deny him. Seconds after Joel Taylor lashed a hit miles over, but things got from bad to worse at the other end as Kurt Willoughby made it 3-1 to York City. Once again it was an easy goal, as Green’s cross went in towards Willoughby who simply tapped in at the back post. We had a huge mountain to climb going into the second 45 as we made things very hard for ourselves. The second half was less frantic, but we still offered very little up top, and on the wings we continued with our poor deliveries. Less than 10 minutes into the period George Glendon gave us a lifeline to make it 3-2, as he capitalised on a poor York City clearance to smash in. On the hour mark though, we received another sucker punch as Kurt Willoughby netted his second of the game to make it 4-2 to York City. The cross by Sean Newton went in which resulted in Kurt heading across the face of goal, whilst at the same time we backed off and failed to clear the ball away. To cap-off a forgettable day at the office, Jamie Morgan got sent off for us by picking up his second booking, which came to great shame considering he scored a lovely goal earlier on. York’s dominance continued as Willoughby was denied by Russ Griffiths, whilst Dan Maguire went close to adding further misery to us as he slotted past the post. With time ticking, Akwasi Asante was unable to grab a consolation as he lashed over following a long Joel Taylor throw. We didn’t get one, and overall we were simply not good enough as we deservedly recorded our first back-to-back defeats of the campaign. I did say prior to this game that I wanted George Glendon to start, and fair play to our managers for picking him. I don’t agree with some of their other choices, but George played relatively well so I will opt for him as my man of the match. He was involved a lot on the ball, made a couple of nice moves, and pulled a goal back for us (it’s just a shame that we never kicked on from there). Elton Ngwatala made his first start for a while, and he didn’t have a bad game really as he was sharp like he was at Gateshead. I’m struggling to pick out many more positives really, because on the flip side the burden mostly lies with our defence. Simon Grand had his worst game in a while as his tracking back was poor, his headers were all over the place, and he gave the ball away too many times. Russ Griffiths has been very solid lately, but today and on Tuesday he brought back memories of earlier on in the season where he had very nervy moments. He was hesitant again today because he rarely went off his line for corners and crosses, which is one of the key aspects in goalkeeping. Something needs to be worked on in training as we can’t afford to have him making the same errors again, because other than that he is a good shot stopper. Scott Burton was pretty poor too, and I don’t understand why we thrown him straight into a huge game when he has been absent for months. I personally would have played Gary Roberts in place of him, and instead make Burton start next week against lesser opponents. He just didn’t do enough to impress me, because he was a bit too slow on the ball and gave it a way a tad too much. Bitterly disappointed about how things fared on the pitch, because other than the game it was a brilliant day out. The atmosphere we generated was incredible (even when we were losing, which to be fair was most of the match). If only we could replicate that at home! I’m just beginning to feel a bit anxious as we have a real case to be looking over our shoulders now. It’s worthless looking too far above us as we are not going to finish in the top two, but the play-offs are ever so tight now. We have big games coming up against the likes of Gateshead, Brackley Town, Altrincham, and Boston United that will give us an idea on where we will end up. Our next match is on Saturday where we play Blyth Spartans at home where we must bounce back. We have recorded back-to-back defeats for the first time this season so I will be very interested to see how we respond. Blyth are fighting for their lives at the wrong end of the table so we must not underestimate them, otherwise we could be in for another Curzon Ashton. Hopefully, though, we will be on our game as on our day we can easily blitz teams apart. TLDR. Rio, mate your reports get longer and longer. I’m sure more people would read them if they were much shorter.
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Post by Jack on Feb 2, 2020 17:23:17 GMT
Thought their no9, Jordan Burrows, was the best player on the pitch. Dominated our back 4 aerially and a constant threat. Surprised he’s at this level - always impressed me.
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Post by MPW on Feb 2, 2020 19:11:56 GMT
Let’s face it - York were the better team and deserved to win. But fair dos to Jonno for coming to talk to us after the game. - their midfield bossed ours, were more physical and their front two made intelligent runs and had our defence in all sorts of trouble. - it didn’t help that the defence were not as dominant in the air as usual - Griffiths and defence were not talking. The difference between their keeper and Griffiths in terms of communication was palpable - Jackson was doubled up on - Johnston tried hard but as per his debut, he lost the ball a lot and ran into dead ends. He drifted into the middle towards the end which left us exposed on the left and led to their third - Elton looked lively and was most creative in midfield until subbed off - Jamie Morgan has a good game as well. I really like the way he livens things up. It as per Kiddy he had a good game until sent off. Even tho the second yellow was a bit harsh he needs to learn to curb it - even though he was trying to make the best of his chance to book a place in the starting line up. - in the end we were let down by our inability to defend set pieces - especially corners (which feel like they account for 50% of the goals we concede). It’s been like that all season and I wish we’d get that sorted. For also how an experienced defence I don’t understand why we can’t do that. So York basically did their homework on us!
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Post by billyw on Feb 2, 2020 20:15:20 GMT
Let’s face it - York were the better team and deserved to win. But fair dos to Jonno for coming to talk to us after the game. - their midfield bossed ours, were more physical and their front two made intelligent runs and had our defence in all sorts of trouble. - it didn’t help that the defence were not as dominant in the air as usual - Griffiths and defence were not talking. The difference between their keeper and Griffiths in terms of communication was palpable - Jackson was doubled up on - Johnston tried hard but as per his debut, he lost the ball a lot and ran into dead ends. He drifted into the middle towards the end which left us exposed on the left and led to their third - Elton looked lively and was most creative in midfield until subbed off - Jamie Morgan has a good game as well. I really like the way he livens things up. It as per Kiddy he had a good game until sent off. Even tho the second yellow was a bit harsh he needs to learn to curb it - even though he was trying to make the best of his chance to book a place in the starting line up. - in the end we were let down by our inability to defend set pieces - especially corners (which feel like they account for 50% of the goals we concede). It’s been like that all season and I wish we’d get that sorted. For also how an experienced defence I don’t understand why we can’t do that. So York basically did their homework on us! Which begs the question, do we do homework on the opposition.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Feb 2, 2020 21:10:13 GMT
We are a strange team. I wouldn't call us Jekyll & Hyde. I think we're 90% fairly solid - rarely brilliant but able to score goals, hardworking and tough to play against. But then the other 10% we're as bad as anything you'll ever see, at any level! Unfortunately it's 10% that tend to stick in the memory. [br Lobster come on in 15/28 games we’ve either drawn or lost which would indicate we are poor for more than 10% of the time.
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Post by chesterken on Feb 2, 2020 21:29:29 GMT
We are a strange team. I wouldn't call us Jekyll & Hyde. I think we're 90% fairly solid - rarely brilliant but able to score goals, hardworking and tough to play against. But then the other 10% we're as bad as anything you'll ever see, at any level! Unfortunately it's 10% that tend to stick in the memory. [br Lobster come on in 15/28 games we’ve either drawn or lost which would indicate we are poor for more than 10% of the time. I can see the way this team frustrates the fans so much in previous years I have watched Chester teams who have played well but lost to a breakaway goal, but that’s not the way with this current squad, when we lose it’s usually because we just don’t turn up it’s very hard to put your finger on why that is.
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Post by billyw on Feb 2, 2020 21:46:28 GMT
[br Lobster come on in 15/28 games we’ve either drawn or lost which would indicate we are poor for more than 10% of the time. I can see the way this team frustrates the fans so much in previous years I have watched Chester teams who have played well but lost to a breakaway goal, but that’s not the way with this current squad, when we lose it’s usually because we just don’t turn up it’s very hard to put your finger on why that is. Is it because we don’t turn up or is it because the managers haven’t done their homework on teams we play and so our tactics are sometimes all wrong - just asking.
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Post by chesterken on Feb 2, 2020 22:24:23 GMT
I can see the way this team frustrates the fans so much in previous years I have watched Chester teams who have played well but lost to a breakaway goal, but that’s not the way with this current squad, when we lose it’s usually because we just don’t turn up it’s very hard to put your finger on why that is. Is it because we don’t turn up or is it because the managers haven’t done their homework on teams we play and so our tactics are sometimes all wrong - just asking. I think it’s a cop out to blame the Managers the players have got to be more consistent instead of this up down up down that we are getting at the moment.
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Post by devadiva on Feb 3, 2020 8:10:57 GMT
Is it because we don’t turn up or is it because the managers haven’t done their homework on teams we play and so our tactics are sometimes all wrong - just asking. I think it’s a cop out to blame the Managers the players have got to be more consistent instead of this up down up down that we are getting at the moment. I think that’s right - the players do carry some of the burden for this. I’m also wondering if we need a different team bus - as the players seem to be allergic to it if they have to be on it for more than 2 hours. I also think the players and gaffers need to spend more time practising what we are clearly cr@p at - defending corners and free kicks in the final third. I wonder if the gaffers just have too much faith in Livesey and Grand to ‘wing it’ and a tendency to focus on the attacking side of things at training? I suspect all of this is a little bit attributable to our hybrid approach and York being full time?
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Post by Lobster on Feb 3, 2020 12:13:49 GMT
Only the York goals included.
Not sure Griffiths is to blame for any of them. The second brushes off Burton's head on its way past him. Maybe could've done a bit better with the third.
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Feb 3, 2020 12:14:51 GMT
Struggled to create much against Gateshead and York who both use a 3/5 at the back system. We changed to that ourselves second half yesterday to match it, so I’d like to see us start with Kev Roberts at RCB in a back three if we’re against this system again, or these teams again in the playoffs. Morgan and Taylor would certainly benefit from having the license to get forward. Their second belongs on @crap90sfootball, the fourth, letting a 5ft8 lad have a free header from 6 yards... painful to watch. We look like we've got the players to play 3/5 at the back. However, FC United especially and 1874 Northwich pre season were a warning sign. Maybe we only play it to match up the opposition? We seem to be in danger of losing the Bern and Jonno style of team, and trying to be something else, as we're signing a different type of player. That maybe progression. It may also leave us as neither one thing or the other. More skilful with the ball. More vulnerable and flimsy without it. The goals we concede from set pieces is mainly down to a lack of good markers and headers. Take out Livesey and Grand, who else would you trust to mark? Teams can avoid those two, and overload areas. Imo we're not physically strong enough to mark. I would feel much happier with a 6'6" goalkeeper who commanded his area. Shenton and Griffiths are the same keeper basically. Neither will come for crosses, and due to this the centre halves have no faith in him. Still, 4th in the League and appearing to build a decent squad up. Need a centre half and a hard man central midfielder in my opinion, but don't need to panic after two defeats to full time sides away.
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Post by Hannibal on Feb 3, 2020 13:22:11 GMT
The goalkeeper is good enough for this level.
Can anyone explain to me how Gateshead are full time on crowds of 750.
What were they demoted for? Wasn't it a financial punishment?
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Post by g1 on Feb 3, 2020 13:39:29 GMT
Let’s face it - York were the better team and deserved to win. But fair dos to Jonno for coming to talk to us after the game. - their midfield bossed ours, were more physical and their front two made intelligent runs and had our defence in all sorts of trouble. - it didn’t help that the defence were not as dominant in the air as usual - Griffiths and defence were not talking. The difference between their keeper and Griffiths in terms of communication was palpable - Jackson was doubled up on - Johnston tried hard but as per his debut, he lost the ball a lot and ran into dead ends. He drifted into the middle towards the end which left us exposed on the left and led to their third - Elton looked lively and was most creative in midfield until subbed off - Jamie Morgan has a good game as well. I really like the way he livens things up. It as per Kiddy he had a good game until sent off. Even tho the second yellow was a bit harsh he needs to learn to curb it - even though he was trying to make the best of his chance to book a place in the starting line up. - in the end we were let down by our inability to defend set pieces - especially corners (which feel like they account for 50% of the goals we concede). It’s been like that all season and I wish we’d get that sorted. For also how an experienced defence I don’t understand why we can’t do that. I thought Morgan got sent off against Telford but maybe wrong he is a good player but a bit hot headed great finish
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Post by devadiva on Feb 3, 2020 14:42:49 GMT
Quite right ^ - a senior moment on my part - it was at Telford - and it was a great finish on Saturday - esp when you think about how little game time he has had. A real prospect I think for next season.
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Post by frank on Feb 4, 2020 9:55:15 GMT
Have just watched the match highlighted on York twitter. All the goals conceded were poor defensively. But a tweak here and there prevents most of these. Firstly on corners Russ likes to stay on his line which is ok but you need a man on each post to protect the corners of the goal that Russ cant reach.These players should stay on the post till the danger is cleared. Secondly Taylor and Morgan are imo wing backs to play both of them in a flat back four means you are exposed defensively. Play them both in a five is better but you then need ball playing centres halves which we have nt got . Some interesting decisions about formations in coming weeks hope J and M find the right balance otherwise playoffs might be missed .
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Post by Si on Feb 4, 2020 12:31:39 GMT
Have just watched the match highlighted on York twitter. All the goals conceded were poor defensively. But a tweak here and there prevents most of these. Firstly on corners Russ likes to stay on his line which is ok but you need a man on each post to protect the corners of the goal that Russ cant reach.These players should stay on the post till the danger is cleared. Secondly Taylor and Morgan are imo wing backs to play both of them in a flat back four means you are exposed defensively. Play them both in a five is better but you then need ball playing centres halves which we have nt got . Some interesting decisions about formations in coming weeks hope J and M find the right balance otherwise playoffs might be missed . I'm not so sure it is ok for Russ for stay on his line. He's over 6ft and well built, he needs to be stepping out to take the pressure off and smashing players out of the way because goalkeepers are afforded that kind of protection. I do take your point on the full backs though - having Taylor and Morgan at the same time left us exposed on Saturday and it's no surprise that all the goals came from out balls coming into the box from wide. Taylor and Morgan would be decent wing backs, but then where does that leave Jacko (best player this season) and Johnson who we've gone all out to pay a fee for? I think the managers have brought in the players to play 4-4-2 or slight variations of that, and I'm fine with that formation as long as the balance is right. At York, playing 2 attacking full backs and Elton in midfield without either Roberts or Stopforth for protection.....is is any wonder we got done for 4?!
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Post by devadiva on Feb 4, 2020 13:17:26 GMT
Have just watched the match highlighted on York twitter. All the goals conceded were poor defensively. But a tweak here and there prevents most of these. Firstly on corners Russ likes to stay on his line which is ok but you need a man on each post to protect the corners of the goal that Russ cant reach.These players should stay on the post till the danger is cleared. Secondly Taylor and Morgan are imo wing backs to play both of them in a flat back four means you are exposed defensively. Play them both in a five is better but you then need ball playing centres halves which we have nt got . Some interesting decisions about formations in coming weeks hope J and M find the right balance otherwise playoffs might be missed . I'm not so sure it is ok for Russ for stay on his line. He's over 6ft and well built, he needs to be stepping out to take the pressure off and smashing players out of the way because goalkeepers are afforded that kind of protection. I do take your point on the full backs though - having Taylor and Morgan at the same time left us exposed on Saturday and it's no surprise that all the goals came from out balls coming into the box from wide. Taylor and Morgan would be decent wing backs, but then where does that leave Jacko (best player this season) and Johnson who we've gone all out to pay a fee for? I think the managers have brought in the players to play 4-4-2 or slight variations of that, and I'm fine with that formation as long as the balance is right. At York, playing 2 attacking full backs and Elton in midfield without either Roberts or Stopforth for protection.....is is any wonder we got done for 4?! I completely agree with that - Taylor's attacking over-shadows some pretty ropey defending. He's quite often miles from his man and not goal side. When you add to that that JJ was getting sucked out of position and providing no protection in front of Taylor that's why were seriously exposed on the left.
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Post by devadiva on Feb 4, 2020 13:26:53 GMT
Only the York goals included. Not sure Griffiths is to blame for any of them. The second brushes off Burton's head on its way past him. Maybe could've done a bit better with the third. I don't think Burton touched the ball for the second - or at least he didn't deflect it from its original path. For the third I agree - Griffiths should have been out and making himself big to put the attacker off when in fact it looked like he was over the line before the ball! As others have said he gets rooted to the line too much and whilst not super tall, he's no midget and could/should have a bigger presence in the box, safe in the knowledge that referees will always give the goalie the benefit of the doubt. He also needs to talk to his defence more (and vice versa). Sorting out some of these basics will undoubtedly stem the tide of goals we concede from comers and set pieces in the final third. That said, he did come off the line and make a couple of good saves on Saturday and should take confidence from them and do that more often.
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Post by Hannibal on Feb 4, 2020 16:48:48 GMT
Only the York goals included. Not sure Griffiths is to blame for any of them. The second brushes off Burton's head on its way past him. Maybe could've done a bit better with the third. I don't think Burton touched the ball for the second - or at least he didn't deflect it from its original path. For the third I agree - Griffiths should have been out and making himself big to put the attacker off when in fact it looked like he was over the line before the ball! As others have said he gets rooted to the line too much and whilst not super tall, he's no midget and could/should have a bigger presence in the box, safe in the knowledge that referees will always give the goalie the benefit of the doubt. He also needs to talk to his defence more (and vice versa). Sorting out some of these basics will undoubtedly stem the tide of goals we concede from comers and set pieces in the final third. That said, he did come off the line and make a couple of good saves on Saturday and should take confidence from them and do that more often. I think we went 4 games without conceding before letting in 6 in 2. Some good assessments on this thread.
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