LOCKDOWN

I see your Stockholm syndrome is coming along nicely.

Is it not possible to keep this topic on track it started out so well intentioned. How about starting a separate thread for people who want to argue about politics. Oh wait that's what this has become.

You may be happy to discuss the lock down in your first sentence but never mention it again. Why not start a thread that you can bring up your concerns about the government on instead of hijacking this thread.

May be in your mind. Read the idea of the thread no mention of anything other than how people are coping and filling in their time. It doesn't matter what you call yourself you have only one motive and that is to convert every post to force your own theories and beliefs on to everybody. Try and stick to the original concept of the topic.

Anyone know why flights are still coming in and no passengers are being checked, if not herd immunity?

I don't necessarily think party politics is helpful at the moment, but I do see the current situation as very political, and societal and environmental as well. People say it's a good job this has happened now when we have internet and video calling, but I don't think it would have happened 20-30 years ago, at least not on the same scale. Everything about it is a consequence of the way we live in 2020.

It started with people eating any animal they could think to put in their mouth, with no regard for animal welfare or sanitation. Thoughtless consumption, basically. Easy to dismiss that as China, but how much thought do people give here to where their food comes from? Are people bothered, for example, that our government wants to break free from EU food hygiene standards and allow chicken carcasses to sit in warehouses gathering bacteria before being washed with chlorine? It sounds one mistake away from a disaster to me.

We're constantly warned that we need to travel less, and especially fly less. Does anyone listen? No, they build more airports and commission more flights. Hence a virus that could have been confined to one area is spread all over the world in a matter of weeks or even days. OK, the argument is down to carbon emissions rather than spread of virus, but it still comes down to not respecting nature and the environment.

As soon as we realised we might have a problem here, people with time and money went out and bought everything in the shops, leaving the vulnerable without the basic items they need. If in doubt, buy more stuff. Again, consumerism at its worst.

And then once we realise we have a problem, we look at the leaders we've tasked with dealing with this, and that's where you have to consider the rise of right-wing populism around the world in major Western countries, not just here but in the US, Brazil, Australia and so on. We've spent the last few years rowing about things like whether passports should be red or blue, and building walls to keep the Mexicans out. We could have spent that time and money building ventilators, sourcing PPE, investing properly in the NHS, collaborating worldwide on tackling climate change. But people don't care about these things, because they're more likely to look at a straight banana during their average day than a ventilator or a disappearing coastline.

We now have terrible, terrible people playing key roles in what is the biggest global crisis since the Second World War, running countries like Mike Ashley runs Sports Direct. You could not handpick a more unsuitable person to be dealing with a situation like this than Donald Trump. You, me, my four-year-old daughter, ANYONE would be better than him, and that's no exaggeration. All he has to do is listen to experts, give clear advice, keep people calm and realise that it's not about himself at the moment, but he just can't do any of those things. And the media don't question him or Boris Johnson in the way they should, because they're owned by the rich and powerful themselves and don't want to bite the hand that feeds.

From start to finish, it's human foolishness and selfishness, and a refusal to do anything that's of the slightest inconvenience to our lives. And I'm a human too, so I'm to blame as much as anyone.

I've always thought that humans will eventually destroy themselves, and I doubt this will be the last time in most of our lifetimes that life as we know it grinds to a half. COVID-19 should be a big wake-up call and make us realise that the way we think, vote and live simply cannot continue

The self defeatism, the sheer misery in that post is hilarious but scary at the same time.

A proper train wreck.

The animal hygiene point. What is so special about EU hygiene standards? Do they set the standard in this? No reason why we can't do better.

The travel point, you're actually on the right lines but that's down to globalisation, not 'respecting nature and the environment' lol.

Moaning about Trump, people are bored of that. Just don't listen to him.

You do have a point with consumerism though. That is a problem driven by corporate greed, it's encouraged and will continue to be. That's an issue beyond party politics and probably won't be fixed unless there is a full reset. And that reset does not mean voting another party into power to magically change life as we know it.

I’ve had my suspicions about Boris Johnson’s recent PR stunt (conveniently using an NHS hospital, going to ICU just for “precaution” and being “OK”...) but now he’s supposedly at Chequers with his pregnant girlfriend a day after being discharged? His governments own rules on isolation is seven days from the outset of symptoms whilst the WHO suggest it should be 14 days from the last symptoms.



Serial liar.

Where are you getting your information from? I hope you're not abusing your position at your place of employment.

Surely not 

What cult would that be then? 🤷🏻‍♂️

Something to look forward to. Its Ematch day 2. Get your cards out and spend a bit, join the quiz and enjoy the fun.i am on the lock down forum aren't i