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Post by tarvinblue on Apr 9, 2017 10:44:23 GMT
Well, he's been in post for nearly 12 months now. At intervals he's delivered rousing interviews, where he has told us all what we want to hear. He was heavily critical of the club's marketing, particularly around season ticket sales, and vowed to sort it out and build a basis for the future. Even a couple of weeks ago he was outspoken about how the fruits of his labour would soon be there for us all to see. We are now three weeks from the end of the season. Crowds have dwindled, season ticket offers remain a mystery, little major sponsorship has arrived, we have tied down an inadequate manager to a lengthy contract and the only marketing seems to be done by the Community Trust and a few fans sharing posts on Facebook. Ah, but he did organise a circus in the car park. Maybe that was the fruits he was referring to. 12 months to organise a circus, but a club no further on still making the same mistakes.
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Post by paulie on Apr 9, 2017 10:47:25 GMT
Well, he's been in post for nearly 12 months now. At intervals he's delivered rousing interviews, where he has told us all what we want to hear. He was heavily critical of the club's marketing, particularly around season ticket sales, and vowed to sort it out and build a basis for the future. Even a couple of weeks ago he was outspoken about how the fruits of his labour would soon be there for us all to see. We are now three weeks from the end of the season. Crowds have dwindled, season ticket offers remain a mystery, little major sponsorship has arrived, we have tied down an inadequate manager to a lengthy contract and the only marketing seems to be done by the Community Trust and a few fans sharing posts on Facebook. Ah, but he did organise a circus in the car park. Maybe that was the fruits he was referring to. 12 months to organise a circus, but a club no further on still making the same mistakes. I went to the circus last Saturday, it was probably better attended than most of our home matches. |
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Post by steveo1 on Apr 9, 2017 12:44:04 GMT
Is it really 12 months? Time goes quickly when gates keep going down and nothing is been done about it.
Remember that live chat online that was done back in feb at a guess? Season tickets plans are being sorted and will be released soon, that as 2 months ago, season ends in 3 weeks and nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2017 12:47:27 GMT
Has anyone seen "THE PLAN" or is it all in somebody's mind?
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Post by tarvinblue on Apr 9, 2017 13:06:23 GMT
I'd like to hope someone has seen it and someone is holding him to account against it. As a normal supporter, with no links to the internal workings, all I have seen is a circus, an email address and a lengthy contract awarded to an inadequate manager. It's going to have to be some master plan to encourage record sales. Come and watch the same manager and same squad, shed of its main assets, fight against being relegated before Christmas. That's going to take some dressing up!
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Post by Si on Apr 9, 2017 13:06:35 GMT
To be fair, perhaps he is waiting for a guarantee of what division we will be in before releasing season ticket details. However, the dreadful home performances surely mean that in order to shift some season tickets there will have to be some bloody good incentives! I'd just like to see us have a go at teams, it makes no sense sitting off teams at home unless it's the top 2.
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Post by Fed up on Apr 9, 2017 13:28:48 GMT
What happened at the last place he "worked" at?
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Post by deva feva on Apr 9, 2017 13:34:18 GMT
I've seen the plan. Here it is.
'Sit in the offices all day doing basic admin only that was previously done by volunteers in their spare time. Play some solitaire, use some old traditional soundbites when needed to appease the more gullible supporters. Take home my £45k a year and live a happy easy life.' It's called doing a Tony Allen at the club.
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Post by Fed up on Apr 9, 2017 13:40:08 GMT
Nobody ever found out what really happened with Gren Millington, either, who did so much to restart the club and who is now never seen there. Let's hope the same thing doesn't happen to Gary Talbot. The truth should be told.
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Post by iandychesterfc on Apr 10, 2017 12:58:37 GMT
It's all in... THE PIPELINE!
nothing to fear lads.
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Post by AntiMurdoch on Apr 10, 2017 18:52:27 GMT
Quid saved getting into the bar, circus and car boot sales on the car park . . . meanwhile our neighbours on both sides have huge concerts . . . is Dan Brooks still around? :-)
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Post by Ex Sponsor on Apr 10, 2017 19:14:11 GMT
I Had a meeting with Gren Millington 10 days before he suddenly resigned, he told me that he was in it for the long haul and was very enthusiastic and had lots of visions for the club going forward, its a mystery what ever happened regarding his resignation! And also I e-mailed the club about 5 weeks ago about hiring the function rooms and never even got a reply!
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Post by richard on Apr 10, 2017 19:22:22 GMT
Nobody ever found out what really happened with Gren Millington, either, who did so much to restart the club and who is now never seen there. Let's hope the same thing doesn't happen to Gary Talbot. The truth should be told. That's odd, I was talking to Grenville last week and he was discussing a couple of games he had recently attended. |
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Post by Fed up on Apr 10, 2017 19:33:39 GMT
Nobody ever found out what really happened with Gren Millington, either, who did so much to restart the club and who is now never seen there. Let's hope the same thing doesn't happen to Gary Talbot. The truth should be told. That's odd, I was talking to Grenville last week and he was discussing a couple of games he had recently attended. That's odd - when I spoke to him he said he hadn't been for months and wouldn't be going back. |
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Post by richard on Apr 10, 2017 20:14:41 GMT
That's odd, I was talking to Grenville last week and he was discussing a couple of games he had recently attended. That's odd - when I spoke to him he said he hadn't been for months and wouldn't be going back. Well he must have changed his mind. |
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Post by TheSeal on Apr 10, 2017 20:31:05 GMT
Mark Maguire was commenting about how he wanted to improve the communication - not once have I ever had a speedy reply from him. Have a few dealings with him over a couple of bookings in function rooms/pitch and every time I have had an email sent - I have had to rig up to chase up a reply, more than once. I had to wait a month before i got my first reply!
I don't know if he is the guy he says he is.
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Post by tarvinblue on Apr 10, 2017 20:41:06 GMT
Thought you were guaranteed a response in 24 hours? That was the promise he made when he launched the email address. Perhaps he was too busy organising the circus whilst fine tuning 'the plan'.
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Post by Sealking on Apr 10, 2017 21:12:07 GMT
Don't want to be negative but currently there isn't many positives, it's great we're fan owned, have no debts and have some money in the bank but that aside the club isn't moving forward and not much as changed over the last few years and doesn't look like it will anytime soon. I know the community side is getting better but the match day experience isn't the best currently. When we reformed you could buy alcohol in the Harry Mac, always seemed to be something going on at half time and on the odd occasion something would be organised before the game and oddly the blues bar seemed less chaotic....
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Post by whistleblower on Apr 11, 2017 6:19:11 GMT
Nobody ever found out what really happened with Gren Millington, either, who did so much to restart the club and who is now never seen there. Let's hope the same thing doesn't happen to Gary Talbot. The truth should be told. he resigned because Lawrence Kirby was elected to the board |
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Post by Wage thief on Apr 11, 2017 7:47:27 GMT
Can't be bothered with the club any more, it's nowhere near what I thought it was setup to be. Communication as poor as it was under SV, it's not our club, no matter how much you dress it up. Its just Chester City FC mark II except we're in the conference, we're rubbish and we've got no money. No leadership, no idea.
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Post by Si on Apr 11, 2017 9:21:11 GMT
Can't be bothered with the club any more, it's nowhere near what I thought it was setup to be. Communication as poor as it was under SV, it's not our club, no matter how much you dress it up. Its just Chester City FC mark II except we're in the conference, we're rubbish and we've got no money. No leadership, no idea. I'd like to know why you feel communication is poor - I feel like this is one area that's improved. I feel quite informed with what's happening down the club. For those that want that extra insight then they have the option to watch a CFU meeting and ask questions from their sofa. I'd personally like to be more informed on injuries to players, but I imagine it's Macca's choice to keep things like that internal. We're making strides into engaging with the wider community with Jim Green's work, and hopefully that will flourish. Don't get me wrong, I think there's plenty that needs to be done better behind the scenes, including this phantom pipeline stuff that Mark McGuire comes out with, but communication is one area I feel we've made strides in, perhaps its just me? |
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Post by tarvinblue on Apr 11, 2017 9:52:20 GMT
Can't be bothered with the club any more, it's nowhere near what I thought it was setup to be. Communication as poor as it was under SV, it's not our club, no matter how much you dress it up. Its just Chester City FC mark II except we're in the conference, we're rubbish and we've got no money. No leadership, no idea. I'd like to know why you feel communication is poor - I feel like this is one area that's improved. I feel quite informed with what's happening down the club. For those that want that extra insight then they have the option to watch a CFU meeting and ask questions from their sofa. I'd personally like to be more informed on injuries to players, but I imagine it's Macca's choice to keep things like that internal. We're making strides into engaging with the wider community with Jim Green's work, and hopefully that will flourish. Don't get me wrong, I think there's plenty that needs to be done better behind the scenes, including this phantom pipeline stuff that Mark McGuire comes out with, but communication is one area I feel we've made strides in, perhaps its just me? I think it comes down to what people want communicated. I agree with you Big Si, it does appear to have improved over the past 12 months and the great work Jim Green is doing is one of the few real positives that can be seen externally. I think where the issue comes is when something happens down at the club that leads to speculation. That speculation is then not responded to or is responded to badly/much later than it should have been and this opens up the accusations of lack of communication. There have been several of these incidents over recent times, many of which are personnel issues so have to be carefully dealt with. It's a tough one for the club and as supporters we have to accept that we can't expect clarification on every possible issue that arises. We have to trust the people elected on to the board to do the right thing. There again is another issue. |
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Post by Questions for Mr McGuire on Apr 11, 2017 10:09:34 GMT
When you became CEO a year ago , it was clearly stated that a major part of your role would be to sign up new sponsors. Question, how many have you signed , also what is the duration of the contracts, and how much is each one worth to the club, and please do not count the ones in the pipeline  Question, was it you that instigated the idea of giving our present manager another 2 years on his existing contract, if so, on what grounds did you or the board base the need to extend his contract for so long,especially as there was not another club at any level interested in signing him ?? Question, did you or the board build in a clause to protect the Club in the case of poor results, as has been happening since the 17th of December 2016 and also for the first 4 weeks of the season Question, who was responsible for signing Iwuelmo as assistant manager with the conditions he can turn up when he wants Question, if you have not brought in new loads of new sponsors in 12 months, what the hell have you been doing to justify your salary |
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Post by border collie on Apr 11, 2017 10:18:50 GMT
When you became CEO a year ago , it was clearly stated that a major part of your role would be to sign up new sponsors. Question, how many have you signed , also what is the duration of the contracts, and how much is each one worth to the club, and please do not count the ones in the pipeline Question, was it you that instigated the idea of giving our present manager another 2 years on his existing contract, if so, on what grounds did you or the board base the need to extend his contract for so long,especially as there was not another club at any level interested in signing him ?? Question, did you or the board build in a clause to protect the Club in the case of poor results, as has been happening since the 17th of December 2016 and also for the first 4 weeks of the season Question, who was responsible for signing Iwuelmo as assistant manager with the conditions he can turn up when he wants Question, if you have not brought in new loads of new sponsors in 12 months, what the hell have you been doing to justify your salary Straight to the point . He should be summoned to the upcoming CFU meeting to answer these questions |
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Post by tarvinblue on Apr 11, 2017 10:33:45 GMT
When you became CEO a year ago , it was clearly stated that a major part of your role would be to sign up new sponsors. Question, how many have you signed , also what is the duration of the contracts, and how much is each one worth to the club, and please do not count the ones in the pipeline Question, was it you that instigated the idea of giving our present manager another 2 years on his existing contract, if so, on what grounds did you or the board base the need to extend his contract for so long,especially as there was not another club at any level interested in signing him ?? Question, did you or the board build in a clause to protect the Club in the case of poor results, as has been happening since the 17th of December 2016 and also for the first 4 weeks of the season Question, who was responsible for signing Iwuelmo as assistant manager with the conditions he can turn up when he wants Question, if you have not brought in new loads of new sponsors in 12 months, what the hell have you been doing to justify your salary Excellent post - add in: how are you intending to sell 'record' numbers of season tickets when you still have released no information on the offer and how are you intending to market and dress up the 'excitement' of watching JM/CI (when he has nothing else on) and the leftovers of this squad, who have averaged just 0.9 points per game since the beginning of Decemeber, battle relegation? Perhaps you should link this campaign to the Great Escape to rally people? |
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Post by 100% correct on Apr 11, 2017 10:35:33 GMT
22 minutes ago Questions for Mr McGuire said: When you became CEO a year ago , it was clearly stated that a major part of your role would be to sign up new sponsors. Question, how many have you signed , also what is the duration of the contracts, and how much is each one worth to the club, and please do not count the ones in the pipeline Question, was it you that instigated the idea of giving our present manager another 2 years on his existing contract, if so, on what grounds did you or the board base the need to extend his contract for so long,especially as there was not another club at any level interested in signing him ?? Question, did you or the board build in a clause to protect the Club in the case of poor results, as has been happening since the 17th of December 2016 and also for the first 4 weeks of the season Question, who was responsible for signing Iwuelmo as assistant manager with the conditions he can turn up when he wants Question, if you have not brought in new loads of new sponsors in 12 months, what the hell have you been doing to justify your salary These are questions that need to be answered ASAP !!! |
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Post by Just talk on Apr 11, 2017 15:10:02 GMT
22 minutes ago Questions for Mr McGuire said: When you became CEO a year ago , it was clearly stated that a major part of your role would be to sign up new sponsors. Question, how many have you signed , also what is the duration of the contracts, and how much is each one worth to the club, and please do not count the ones in the pipeline Question, was it you that instigated the idea of giving our present manager another 2 years on his existing contract, if so, on what grounds did you or the board base the need to extend his contract for so long,especially as there was not another club at any level interested in signing him ?? Question, did you or the board build in a clause to protect the Club in the case of poor results, as has been happening since the 17th of December 2016 and also for the first 4 weeks of the season Question, who was responsible for signing Iwuelmo as assistant manager with the conditions he can turn up when he wants Question, if you have not brought in new loads of new sponsors in 12 months, what the hell have you been doing to justify your salary These are questions that need to be answered ASAP !!! He is very good at the talk, but is no one bothered what he has been doing for the last 12 months , apart from extending our muppet manager's contract for another 2 years ?? |
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Post by Guest on Apr 11, 2017 15:46:51 GMT
I would also like to know from Mr McGuire, when people approach the club with business ideas that would make the club many thousands of pounds, and are willing to do all the work themselves, why he has a meeting with them and said he will be in touch shortly, but then never contact said people ever again? Do we not need the large cash injection?
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Post by Guest blue on Apr 11, 2017 16:12:38 GMT
If he was responsible for awarding the 2.5 year contract to JM, then that was a mistake.
However, I think on balance he's done a reasonable job in less than a year. I attended a CFU meeting in August, and he was formally introduced. It was made clear that some existing sponsors were not going to renew this season, but he managed to convince them to sponsor for another year.
The PR for the club during the BT Gateshead game was positive, and reflected well on the club. Presumably he had a major role in this, with different initiatives going on outside the ground and the South Stand being plastered in new advertising.
Online ticketing has been trialled for the first time, and the ground is now starting to be used for other things as well.
He seems to be mostly responsible for rejecting offers for Sam Hughes and James Alabi. In the likely event that Sam goes for more than 70k, MM can take credit for that. Equally, things would have looked even worse for us on the pitch had we sold Alabi for a very small fee - would we have got a better replacement?
He is probably busy sorting out players' new contracts (at JM's request). That would take a large part of his working week, but if we can get a lot of business sorted early, our organisation for next season should be better.
So, on balance, has he brought in more revenue than the cost of his wages? It is very likely that he has, and therefore that, in my view, justifies the position that he is in.
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Post by paulie on Apr 11, 2017 17:40:43 GMT
I'd like to know why you feel communication is poor - I feel like this is one area that's improved. I feel quite informed with what's happening down the club. For those that want that extra insight then they have the option to watch a CFU meeting and ask questions from their sofa. I'd personally like to be more informed on injuries to players, but I imagine it's Macca's choice to keep things like that internal. We're making strides into engaging with the wider community with Jim Green's work, and hopefully that will flourish. Don't get me wrong, I think there's plenty that needs to be done better behind the scenes, including this phantom pipeline stuff that Mark McGuire comes out with, but communication is one area I feel we've made strides in, perhaps its just me? I think it comes down to what people want communicated. I agree with you Big Si, it does appear to have improved over the past 12 months and the great work Jim Green is doing is one of the few real positives that can be seen externally. I think where the issue comes is when something happens down at the club that leads to speculation. That speculation is then not responded to or is responded to badly/much later than it should have been and this opens up the accusations of lack of communication. There have been several of these incidents over recent times, many of which are personnel issues so have to be carefully dealt with. It's a tough one for the club and as supporters we have to accept that we can't expect clarification on every possible issue that arises. We have to trust the people elected on to the board to do the right thing. There again is another issue. My only dealings with the club were with Tracey smith/wainwright or whatever she was called, took 3 or 4 emails before getting a snotty reply. Had to get onto Grenville to sort the problem, which he did very quickly. |
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