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Post by g1 on Oct 1, 2020 12:23:12 GMT
Maybe we could take Asante back from them? I think a small administrative fee for the inconvenience would only be fair. Elliott, Waring, Marsh-Hughes,and now Goodwin scoring for fun, where would Akwasi fit in? How about we take him on loan, with Gloucester paying 60% of his wages. That’ll save a few bob for them. don't want him back now have a good mix here of youth and experience up front now give them a chance
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2020 12:25:19 GMT
Elliott, Waring, Marsh-Hughes,and now Goodwin scoring for fun, where would Akwasi fit in? How about we take him on loan, with Gloucester paying 60% of his wages. That’ll save a few bob for them. don't want him back now have a good mix here of youth and experience up front now give them a chance I’m a fan of Elliott’s and Waring’s but please don’t compare them or anyone else in this league to Asante. He was top class for us and should be playing at a much higher level if injuries hadn’t affected him.
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Post by Lobster on Oct 1, 2020 12:25:54 GMT
Well well well no sympathy for the likes Gloucester no doubt Curzon and Fylde among other clubs who spend beyond there means will follow there were a lot of chester fans on here having a go at the management duo for not making signings splashing money that we don't really have about well I think they have played a superb hand and got signings for nothing we will be fine Do Curzon live beyond their means? They've had a few decent Cup runs in recent years let's not forget.
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Post by Lobster on Oct 1, 2020 12:28:30 GMT
don't want him back now have a good mix here of youth and experience up front now give them a chance I’m a fan of Elliott’s and Waring’s but please don’t compare them or anyone else in this league to Asante. He was top class for us and should be playing at a much higher level if injuries hadn’t affected him. Yeah, have to remember these are friendlies against sides way down the pyramid that we're talking about. No disrespect to the players mentioned but none of them are exactly proven goalscorers at our level like Asante is.
My remark about taking Asante back was tongue in cheek though.
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Post by jb on Oct 1, 2020 12:39:15 GMT
Well well well no sympathy for the likes Gloucester no doubt Curzon and Fylde among other clubs who spend beyond there means will follow there were a lot of chester fans on here having a go at the management duo for not making signings splashing money that we don't really have about well I think they have played a superb hand and got signings for nothing we will be fine Do Curzon live beyond their means? They've had a few decent Cup runs in recent years let's not forget. I would have thought that their income comes from the sporting facility there (provided that they own it). When Chester were there last season there was plenty of people using the adjacent football pitches and there was even some cycling going on. As for Gloucester their incredibly short-sighted dealings over the past few months is coming back and haunt them.
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Post by g1 on Oct 1, 2020 12:39:22 GMT
don't want him back now have a good mix here of youth and experience up front now give them a chance I’m a fan of Elliott’s and Waring’s but please don’t compare them or anyone else in this league to Asante. He was top class for us and should be playing at a much higher level if injuries hadn’t affected him. where was I comparing them just saying Elliott and waring need a chance asante was class for us not saying he wasn't but a fit Elliott will be a talisman
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Post by g1 on Oct 1, 2020 12:40:38 GMT
Well well well no sympathy for the likes Gloucester no doubt Curzon and Fylde among other clubs who spend beyond there means will follow there were a lot of chester fans on here having a go at the management duo for not making signings splashing money that we don't really have about well I think they have played a superb hand and got signings for nothing we will be fine Do Curzon live beyond their means? They've had a few decent Cup runs in recent years let's not forget. oh yes forgot about the cup runs
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Post by Lobster on Oct 1, 2020 13:11:55 GMT
Now there’s local lockdowns across all of North Wales, added to some areas around the north west. As of today, stricter lockdowns have come into effect in the 'Liverpool City Region' (which includes Wirral and Halton), and Warrington, including guidance that people should not attend amateur sporting events. I can't work out whether that's advice or a ban - as usual Matt Hancock hasn't make it that clear.
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Post by nytram on Oct 1, 2020 14:24:07 GMT
Curzon also only charge £5 entry if you have a greater Manchester post code and also offer discounts if you have a premier or efl season ticket. Surely we could do the discount for other season ticket holders. They make more money from bar and kiosks if they get people in. We need a better bar and kiosk food.
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Post by Blockhead on Oct 1, 2020 15:29:23 GMT
Curzon also only charge £5 entry if you have a greater Manchester post code and also offer discounts if you have a premier or efl season ticket. Surely we could do the discount for other season ticket holders. They make more money from bar and kiosks if they get people in. We need a better bar and kiosk food. Why should a Man Utd season ticket holder pay less to get in than a Chester fan who turns up every week, is a CFU member, buys merchandise, and assists with fundraising?
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Post by Wortleyblue on Oct 1, 2020 15:32:39 GMT
Non-League News, Facebook & ollie_Bayliss, Twitter: "Nigel Huddleston - Minister for Sport:" "Yesterday we provided the National League with assurances that financial support from the Government will be forthcoming so they can start this season this Saturday. Don't know how much but it has to be good news
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Post by lincolnexile on Oct 2, 2020 7:14:48 GMT
Watching the news this morning and Ian Culverhouse, Kings Lynn manager, was on there saying how the pandemic was affecting them and how they were losing money because there would have been over 3500 supporters at their home game with Yeovil this weekend.
When you consider that the only time they got an attendance like that last season was when York City visited with their away following and their average attendance last year was about 1400 I would be surprised if their attendance would have been much over 2000.
Maybe they're after a bigger cut of the predicted £20m pot based on their own predicted future attendances rather than last years?
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Post by Wortleyblue on Oct 2, 2020 9:27:01 GMT
Non-League News, Facebook & ollie_Bayliss, Twitter: "National League clubs are hoping for funding details tomorrow, (today)." "That’ll allow them to start the season with some financial certainty." "I understand the Government’s grant is likely to around £3million a month." "Clubs will receive different amounts based on their lost fan revenue."
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Post by avfo on Oct 2, 2020 14:09:57 GMT
From FCUM OWS -
Joint letter from FC, Shields and Scarborough to the DCMS
Today representatives of FC United, South Shields, and Scarborough, along with a number of supportive MP’s and the Chair of the FSA have written a letter to the Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport, you can read this below.
The Right Hon Oliver Dowden CBE MP Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Department for Digital, Culture, Media & Sport 100 Parliament Street London SW1A 2BQ 2nd October 2020
Dear Oliver, We are writing to you today on behalf of three Northern Premier League football clubs, FC United of Manchester, Scarborough Athletic FC and South Shields FC. We operate at step 3 of the Non-League System, the highest level designated as ‘grassroots’ under current Covid regulations, meaning that we are permitted limited crowds. We have read with interest over the last couple of weeks the developing situation over the National League clubs who made their case that they were not sustainable if forced to play without fans. A widely publicised letter to you on 28th September from MPs and sporting authority figureheads made the case that ‘in order for clubs to sustain themselves over the winter and keep playing, they would need to be compensated for the loss of match ticket sales. The absence of this income is not the result of their actions but the policies that have been put in place by the government in response to a public health emergency’. It would appear that the government has listened to that case with the announcement made to the house on Wednesday by sports minister Nigel Huddlestone that a funding package had been agreed “to help those most impacted by the 1st October decision” and “will be focused on those most in need and it will be based on the loss of gate receipts.” We believe that there is a flawed perception that all grassroots football clubs can sustain themselves within the current government restrictions and would agree that this is the case for the vast majority. However we would draw your attention that a one size fits all approach doesn’t take into account that there are a handful of clubs caught between a now subsidised elite and the grassroots restrictions which are in danger of forcing us out of existence. Our three clubs are very different but have in common that we are well run and prior to this once in a lifetime Covid emergency, sustainable businesses which focus beyond football on being at the heart of our local communities. Similarly to the National League clubs we provide numerous youngsters with educational and sporting opportunities through our successful academies and we run wide ranging community projects in our areas. This has included substantial extra support for our communities in response to the current Covid crisis. The return to football protocols allow for supporters in our grounds in limited numbers well below the levels at which we can be sustainable. Government restrictions allow 600 at our step 3 which is 1071 spectators below the average crowd at South Shields last season, 1068 below FC United’s and 401 below Scarborough’s. To put it into context, the number of supporters locked out of our grounds by current restrictions, and therefore our lost gate receipt revenue, for South Shields and FC United is greater than the total average crowd last season of 30 National League clubs and for Scarborough this is greater than 3. We would make the point that the situation is unsustainable for our clubs at the current government level of restriction but that is not the end of our problems as some Local authorities are now imposing their own restrictions which go beyond what was decided by the DCMS. On the instructions of their local authority South Shields’ capacity is currently cut to 300 and Scarborough have been forced to start the season closed doors. To compound matters, new regulations brought in last week requiring all food and drink to be purchased and consumed at tables will seriously reduce the food and beverage revenue we also rely on as supporters will no longer be able to take these out on the stands and terraces and we will be restricted to limited seated social club service. We note with interest your colleague the Sports Minister’s response in the Commons that any club in immediate financial distress should alert their sport’s governing body, which all 3 of our clubs have repeatedly done through the Northern Premier League since the start of the season, only to be informed yesterday by league chairman Mark Harris that there has been no confirmation of any support for affected clubs below the National League. We understand that we are only a handful of clubs who have slipped between the cracks of elite and grassroots, but we feel abandoned. We are haemorrhaging more in lost gate receipts, through no fault of our own, than 30 National League clubs who will all receive financial assistance and we lose that revenue match after match, week in week out. We are facing ruin for having business models that rely on high supporter engagement, something which prior to Covid had always been regarded as the way clubs should be run. We would ask you to consider that we are good, sustainable clubs in greater difficulty than many National League clubs. Our clubs matter to us, they matter to our supporters and they matter to our local communities. We would welcome the opportunity to provide you with detailed financial information to support our request.
Manchester Central MP Lucy Powell is also aware of our situation and has indicated her support and will raise the matter further.
Yours sincerely
Adrian Seddon, Chair of the Board of FC United of Manchester Geoff Thompson, Chairman of South Shields FC Trevor Bull, Chairman of Scarborough Athletic FC Emma Lewell-Buck, MP for South Shields Robert Goodwill, MP for Scarborough and Whitby Malcolm Clarke, Chairman of the Football Supporter’s Association
CC: Nigel Huddlestone MP, Minister for Sport, Tourism and Heritage Mark Bullingham, Chief Executive, the Football Association
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 2, 2020 14:20:42 GMT
Can of worms now.
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Post by Wortleyblue on Oct 2, 2020 14:31:10 GMT
Certainly is and I dont think it will stop with football, there are a lot of other sports clubs in dire straits
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 2, 2020 14:32:20 GMT
Certainly is and I dont think it will stop with football, there are a lot of other sports clubs in dire straits Then it’s up to the government to bail them out. Imagine if all those sports clubs were banks.
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Post by Lobster on Oct 2, 2020 14:49:28 GMT
Certainly is and I dont think it will stop with football, there are a lot of other sports clubs in dire straits I don't think it will stop with sport. The Department for Culture, Media and Sport seems to have done very little for art and music venues for a start.
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Post by Oaks Blue on Oct 2, 2020 15:33:41 GMT
Certainly is and I dont think it will stop with football, there are a lot of other sports clubs in dire straits Then it’s up to the government to bail them out. Imagine if all those sports clubs were banks. I've never paid to get into a bank to watch their employees work...
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Post by arthurmorris on Oct 2, 2020 16:09:59 GMT
Then it’s up to the government to bail them out. Imagine if all those sports clubs were banks. I've never paid to get into a bank to watch their employees work... You don't know what you're missing, Royal Bank of Scotland vs Clydesdale Bank is better than the old firm derby'
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Post by avfo on Oct 2, 2020 16:31:38 GMT
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 2, 2020 17:15:11 GMT
Don’t forget we have sold season tickets, new home and away shirts, retro shirts and had a successful Boost The Budget campaign over the summer - I’m assuming we have prepared and budgeted for the possibility that we would’ve been starting the season with only STH’s allowed. Anything we get from this grant is a bonus because we thought we'd be starting the new season with limited attendance anyway and would’ve budgeted for it. At least I hope so.
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Post by Churton Blue on Oct 3, 2020 12:39:37 GMT
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Post by Wortleyblue on Oct 3, 2020 13:29:05 GMT
Why does that never happen to us. Come on Sam Hughes please make the grade
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Post by dc2cfc on Oct 3, 2020 13:56:47 GMT
Why does that never happen to us. Come on Sam Hughes please make the grade The other week Leicester played Arsenal in the league cup, and few of the teammates in his u23 played in the first XI, they even played Fuchs at CB, then they go and splash out on a new CB this week. I think he would have got the chance under Puel but Brendan Rogers hasn’t give him anything !
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 3, 2020 14:52:05 GMT
Yeah at his age now he needs to move on. Hopefully for a fee, but it won’t be a big one.
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Post by sealandender1 on Oct 3, 2020 18:54:12 GMT
Incidentally, does anyone know the actual sell on percentage etc.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 3, 2020 19:27:50 GMT
Juventus vs Napoli tomorrow. The authorities are not allowing Napoli to leave their area due to local restrictions in Naples. If Juventus simply enter the field and kick off they will be awarded a 3-0 win.
They have confirmed that they will do so.
#newnormal
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Post by saltneykebabden on Oct 3, 2020 20:22:08 GMT
Juventus vs Napoli tomorrow. The authorities are not allowing Napoli to leave their area due to local restrictions in Naples. If Juventus simply enter the field and kick off they will be awarded a 3-0 win. They have confirmed that they will do so. #newnormal How did you work that one out?
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 3, 2020 20:46:12 GMT
Juventus vs Napoli tomorrow. The authorities are not allowing Napoli to leave their area due to local restrictions in Naples. If Juventus simply enter the field and kick off they will be awarded a 3-0 win. They have confirmed that they will do so. #newnormal How did you work that one out? League officials have confirmed they will not postpone the game; Juventus tweeted their intentions to enter the field and kick off.
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