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Post by tonya on Nov 28, 2020 18:44:58 GMT
I am going to drastically reduce my expectations for the rest of the season I don’t think we are good enough to reach the playofffs so mid table seems about right. Given our performances and results, with points from the last nine, I think any sensible person would form that opinion.
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Post by chesterken on Nov 28, 2020 19:01:34 GMT
I am going to drastically reduce my expectations for the rest of the season I don’t think we are good enough to reach the playofffs so mid table seems about right. Given our performances and results, with points from the last nine, I think any sensible person would form that opinion. No one who knows me has ever called me sensible 😜
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Post by RonD on Nov 28, 2020 19:39:38 GMT
No post match interview from the management tonight? Jonno was interviewed by Neil Turner. Heard it during half-time at Goodison on BBC Radio Merseyside.
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Post by bluejay on Nov 28, 2020 19:52:25 GMT
No post match interview from the management tonight? Jonno was interviewed by Neil Turner. Heard it during half-time at Goodison on BBC Radio Merseyside. There's an interview up on YouTube as well
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2020 20:10:09 GMT
Dire. Grand looked finished in the play off game, and we talked him out of retirement... We look leggy, have no pace and our star signing can't pass a ball let alone a full back. Gone stale, needs a bit of a shake up. Goodwins cameo was promising though. A worry for me is that Livesey and Grand have a combined age of 71... One old head at the back in this league is fine but 2 will get exposed. Can’t knock either of them but Bern and Johnno should have got some pace and youth next to one of them. Anyway, beat Alfreton and it’d still be a solid enough start to the season. No?
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Post by jb on Nov 28, 2020 20:29:15 GMT
Gutted. However, just watched the Bury documentary on iPlayer and realised its not all that bad at the Stadio Deva.
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Post by chesterken on Nov 28, 2020 20:54:56 GMT
Can imagine one of Jackson and Johnston will be back in and we go 4-4-2. Home pitch, expansive style. Only issue is who do you take out? Do we need Lacey for this sort of game or is he best used in a midfield three away from home on crap pitches? Would like us to lineup like... Jackson - Glendon - Weeks - Bauress Elliott - Hughes/Marsh-Hughes ... for home games on our pitch. As it turned out we could have done with Lacy protecting the back four as that was more like an away game than a home game today.
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Post by cityboy5705 on Nov 28, 2020 21:20:41 GMT
Right my take apart from a few minutes we weren't good what gets me is we have two experienced heads at the back yet we keep conceding silly goals should of only kept one of them 2 and got in another one up front is a massive cause for concern Dudley I will let off although not great but is asked to play in an awkward position I noticed another thing still and it's been the same for years lack of leadership on the pitch that's needed 1 win in 7 is not good I know it's only our third game back but I'm afraid unless things change midtable awaits
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Post by dc2cfc on Nov 28, 2020 22:12:03 GMT
Really need to start defending much better soon, the amount of soft goals we’ve conceded is ridiculous
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Post by chesterken on Nov 28, 2020 23:46:38 GMT
The one positive for me is that no one comes on here and says the team lost due to lack of effort the players give loads of effort in every-game some sometimes we get out thought or make mistakes that cost us the game but unlike the past it’s not because the players are not giving their all.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Nov 29, 2020 0:24:19 GMT
I am going to drastically reduce my expectations for the rest of the season I don’t think we are good enough to reach the playofffs so mid table seems about right. If that’s all we can realistically manage then we should just padlock the gates and forget about it
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Post by Matt on Nov 29, 2020 0:40:48 GMT
Given the circumstances this has set us back probably to the cuts we had to make in 2018. With the team the management have put together taking pay cuts anything from top 10 would be an achievement.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2020 2:29:59 GMT
I am going to drastically reduce my expectations for the rest of the season I don’t think we are good enough to reach the playofffs so mid table seems about right. If that’s all we can realistically manage then we should just padlock the gates and forget about it I don't get this attitude, I follow the Club because I love Chester FC, I don't need us to win every week to stay invested. This season is unprecedented we might get in the play offs or we might not. I don't understand the unrelenting need for promotions. Does anyone really think if we we're in league 2 we'd get more than 2,500 through the gate? We'd be dead in the water. You all know why you follow Chester and success isn't the reason. How far up would we have to get before people are happy? whats the difference between playing York and Plymouth. We're not going to win the premier league it's just lower league football, people talk about league two like its a revered league and everyone cares about it. In Chester nobody cares about us. Get through this year. maybe make the playoffs maybe don't. I am happy to support the team, you cant always be the best team. Without doubt this year is about surviving. We have almost no playing budget. The most significant shortfall this club has is the people of Chester who don't back the club. These players played for free in the playoffs and some of them are still playing for free. Most took reduced wages, they're not world beaters but they play for the shirt. I'm in it for the community and belonging that being a Chester Fan brings. We built a club from nothing and are still going. Ask yourselves what you really think is enough from Chester FC. If you really need us to be losing every game in league 2 then fair enough. I want a squad of players who are honest and hard working who can distract me from the hardships of life twice a week. UTFS
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Post by hughie on Nov 29, 2020 6:47:13 GMT
Great post.Wereinitogether.Roll on Tuesday.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Nov 29, 2020 6:49:32 GMT
If that’s all we can realistically manage then we should just padlock the gates and forget about it I don't get this attitude, I follow the Club because I love Chester FC, I don't need us to win every week to stay invested. This season is unprecedented we might get in the play offs or we might not. I don't understand the unrelenting need for promotions. Does anyone really think if we we're in league 2 we'd get more than 2,500 through the gate? We'd be dead in the water. You all know why you follow Chester and success isn't the reason. How far up would we have to get before people are happy? whats the difference between playing York and Plymouth. We're not going to win the premier league it's just lower league football, people talk about league two like its a revered league and everyone cares about it. In Chester nobody cares about us. Get through this year. maybe make the playoffs maybe don't. I am happy to support the team, you cant always be the best team. Without doubt this year is about surviving. We have almost no playing budget. The most significant shortfall this club has is the people of Chester who don't back the club. These players played for free in the playoffs and some of them are still playing for free. Most took reduced wages, they're not world beaters but they play for the shirt. I'm in it for the community and belonging that being a Chester Fan brings. We built a club from nothing and are still going. Ask yourselves what you really think is enough from Chester FC. If you really need us to be losing every game in league 2 then fair enough. I want a squad of players who are honest and hard working who can distract me from the hardships of life twice a week. UTFS If there is no playing budget then it is an ideal time to give he likes of Goocdwin Marsh Hughes, Crilly and Burke game time. We may be surprises ar what they can do. Goodwin's cameo yeaterday being an example.
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Post by Cestrian For Life on Nov 29, 2020 6:53:37 GMT
Agree 100%. This season is simply about survival. Would love to see more of the likes of Goodwin in the coming months. He looked a bit of a beast. If that’s all we can realistically manage then we should just padlock the gates and forget about it I don't get this attitude, I follow the Club because I love Chester FC, I don't need us to win every week to stay invested. This season is unprecedented we might get in the play offs or we might not. I don't understand the unrelenting need for promotions. Does anyone really think if we we're in league 2 we'd get more than 2,500 through the gate? We'd be dead in the water. You all know why you follow Chester and success isn't the reason. How far up would we have to get before people are happy? whats the difference between playing York and Plymouth. We're not going to win the premier league it's just lower league football, people talk about league two like its a revered league and everyone cares about it. In Chester nobody cares about us. Get through this year. maybe make the playoffs maybe don't. I am happy to support the team, you cant always be the best team. Without doubt this year is about surviving. We have almost no playing budget. The most significant shortfall this club has is the people of Chester who don't back the club. These players played for free in the playoffs and some of them are still playing for free. Most took reduced wages, they're not world beaters but they play for the shirt. I'm in it for the community and belonging that being a Chester Fan brings. We built a club from nothing and are still going. Ask yourselves what you really think is enough from Chester FC. If you really need us to be losing every game in league 2 then fair enough. I want a squad of players who are honest and hard working who can distract me from the hardships of life twice a week. UTFS
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Post by Jack on Nov 29, 2020 8:31:33 GMT
I don't think we ever hit a rhythm where you felt a goal was round the corner. Even when Grand equalised, it was a nice surprise but I wouldn't have predicted it 5 minutes earlier. Gateshead were just a better side I think - they controlled it for the majority.
I still don't think it's cause for panic and I'd still be surprised to see us not in and around the top 6. As Jonno pointed out, if you look at the games we've lost (Gloucester, Spenny and Gateshead) then they've all been last minute winners that could easily have gone for us. There's not a side we've played yet who have been streets ahead of us and I do think we're a better side than last year. Yesterday was poor, but 3 games in a week after a fortnight of no training was never going to be good for us and Gateshead are just about the worse team to play in that situation because they're full time and keep the ball so well.
Grand's mistake is one of those things, you're not going to to coach that out of him but he and Livesey are written off after every defeat and they prove their worth. I am really struggling, however, with Johnston. It's just not going to work out for him here, he looks like the weight of the world is on his shoulders and I'm struggling to remember his last good game. A move elsewhere might be the best for all parties.
Thought there was a lot to like about Goodwin's cameo, think he'll start on Tuesday and rightly so.
Overall, a very disjointed performance but I still think there's no need to panic yet. Without a lapse in concentration today, we'd have had another point in a tricky fixture. Those 92nd winners have got to start going for us sometime!
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 29, 2020 9:26:47 GMT
Anybody else pissed off by the manager’s “he’ll do it again” comment about Grand’s horror show? Annoyed me that.
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Nov 29, 2020 9:39:03 GMT
I'd still be surprised to see us not in and around the top 6. As Jonno pointed out, if you look at the games we've lost (Gloucester, Spenny and Gateshead) then they've all been last minute winners that could easily have gone for us. I think the fact we keep coming up short against these sides over 90 minutes could be interpreted either way.
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Post by Jack on Nov 29, 2020 11:15:06 GMT
I'd still be surprised to see us not in and around the top 6. As Jonno pointed out, if you look at the games we've lost (Gloucester, Spenny and Gateshead) then they've all been last minute winners that could easily have gone for us. I think the fact we keep coming up short against these sides over 90 minutes could be interpreted either way. Definitely - suppose we'll only find out at the end of the season.
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Post by rcb on Nov 29, 2020 11:38:08 GMT
Anybody else pissed off by the manager’s “he’ll do it again” comment about Grand’s horror show? Annoyed me that. I’m pissed off that he’s still here.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2020 11:51:47 GMT
Anybody else pissed off by the manager’s “he’ll do it again” comment about Grand’s horror show? Annoyed me that. Not as much as when he always harps on about a team being full time when they turn us over. Almost as if the games a write off before we get out there. ‘Don’t worry lads they’re full time they should beat us’ 3 points v Alfreton and it’s a healthy enough start all considering.
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Post by superman on Nov 29, 2020 12:11:50 GMT
Much was made of the build the budget being chiefly about sustaining the hybrid model and being more than just part time. Pretty sure this has been watered down and the impact of the COVID restrictions and playing twice a week means little or no time for training. Gateshead played like a team who have spent many hours on the training ground working on their method and shape. We don’t have that luxury. Essentially we are still a part time team and don’t have the resources to be otherwise. Can’t see this changing anytime soon.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Nov 29, 2020 12:16:50 GMT
If that’s all we can realistically manage then we should just padlock the gates and forget about it I don't get this attitude, I follow the Club because I love Chester FC, I don't need us to win every week to stay invested. This season is unprecedented we might get in the play offs or we might not. I don't understand the unrelenting need for promotions. Does anyone really think if we we're in league 2 we'd get more than 2,500 through the gate? We'd be dead in the water. You all know why you follow Chester and success isn't the reason. How far up would we have to get before people are happy? whats the difference between playing York and Plymouth. We're not going to win the premier league it's just lower league football, people talk about league two like its a revered league and everyone cares about it. In Chester nobody cares about us. Get through this year. maybe make the playoffs maybe don't. I am happy to support the team, you cant always be the best team. Without doubt this year is about surviving. We have almost no playing budget. The most significant shortfall this club has is the people of Chester who don't back the club. These players played for free in the playoffs and some of them are still playing for free. Most took reduced wages, they're not world beaters but they play for the shirt. I'm in it for the community and belonging that being a Chester Fan brings. We built a club from nothing and are still going. Ask yourselves what you really think is enough from Chester FC. If you really need us to be losing every game in league 2 then fair enough. I want a squad of players who are honest and hard working who can distract me from the hardships of life twice a week. UTFS Thank you for your thoughts and constructive reply. I completely understand the unprecedented times etc. And perhaps survival is the most important thing at present . Of course I done expect us to win every week . The points you make about apathy and lack of interest in Chester for our club. It’s always been that way . I feel that this league is awful and that we need to be out of it ASAP . I’ve spent over 30 years watching us . The standard is awful but you put up with it as you say due to the love of the club. We should be doing all we can to get into a national league and become sustainable within it . How are we goi g to do that without investment ? I’ve no idea . Personally I find it sad and heartbreaking that we are in this awful league
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Post by devadiva on Nov 29, 2020 12:20:18 GMT
Not sure how legible this will be but this is how it stands on PPG right now (we are 11th):
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Post by Lobster on Nov 29, 2020 13:33:43 GMT
I don't get this attitude, I follow the Club because I love Chester FC, I don't need us to win every week to stay invested. This season is unprecedented we might get in the play offs or we might not. I don't understand the unrelenting need for promotions. Does anyone really think if we we're in league 2 we'd get more than 2,500 through the gate? We'd be dead in the water. You all know why you follow Chester and success isn't the reason. How far up would we have to get before people are happy? whats the difference between playing York and Plymouth. We're not going to win the premier league it's just lower league football, people talk about league two like its a revered league and everyone cares about it. In Chester nobody cares about us. Get through this year. maybe make the playoffs maybe don't. I am happy to support the team, you cant always be the best team. Without doubt this year is about surviving. We have almost no playing budget. The most significant shortfall this club has is the people of Chester who don't back the club. These players played for free in the playoffs and some of them are still playing for free. Most took reduced wages, they're not world beaters but they play for the shirt. I'm in it for the community and belonging that being a Chester Fan brings. We built a club from nothing and are still going. Ask yourselves what you really think is enough from Chester FC. If you really need us to be losing every game in league 2 then fair enough. I want a squad of players who are honest and hard working who can distract me from the hardships of life twice a week. UTFS Thank you for your thoughts and constructive reply. I completely understand the unprecedented times etc. And perhaps survival is the most important thing at present . Of course I done expect us to win every week . The points you make about apathy and lack of interest in Chester for our club. It’s always been that way . I feel that this league is awful and that we need to be out of it ASAP . I’ve spent over 30 years watching us . The standard is awful but you put up with it as you say due to the love of the club. We should be doing all we can to get into a national league and become sustainable within it . How are we goi g to do that without investment ? I’ve no idea . Personally I find it sad and heartbreaking that we are in this awful league The problem is the National League is even more depressing than this one in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, I'd rather be in it, but it's a miserable league.
Long-term, we need more regionalised football in my opinion, and hopefully this pandemic will shift that debate along.
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Post by rcb on Nov 29, 2020 13:53:55 GMT
Extracts from The Leader in January:
Chester managers Anthony Johnson and Bernard Morley have signed two-and-a-half-year contract extensions with the club.
The new deals will see the management duo commit to the Blues until the end of the 2021/22 season.
This term the Blues, who currently sit third in the table, have moved to a hybrid model with the managers assembling an exciting team playing attractive and fast-paced attacking football.
A joint statement issued by the managers following the club's announcement of the deals, said: "Stay with us. Our ambitions are limitless.
"Chester FC's ceiling is as high as we want it to be. This isn't a small little club punching above it's weight, where we are right now is the absolute minimum. We believe where we can get to over the next two-and-a-half years is scary."
Chester FC's Board of Directors were delighted to tie the managers down to new deals, with vice-chair Andy Morris impressed with the club's progress under the duo's stewardship.
He said: “The Board of City Fans United are delighted to secure the contract extension of Bernard Morley and Anthony Johnson until May 2022.
“Successful football clubs are built through sustained and continued improvement on and off the pitch and the work that these managers have done over the last 18 months to develop a footballing infrastructure, which aligned to our club values, has been remarkable given where the club were when they joined.
“The board look forward to working with the managers for the duration of the contract and have the utmost confidence that the club will continue to progress under their stewardship.”
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Post by Harry Lime on Nov 29, 2020 14:01:48 GMT
Thank you for your thoughts and constructive reply. I completely understand the unprecedented times etc. And perhaps survival is the most important thing at present . Of course I done expect us to win every week . The points you make about apathy and lack of interest in Chester for our club. It’s always been that way . I feel that this league is awful and that we need to be out of it ASAP . I’ve spent over 30 years watching us . The standard is awful but you put up with it as you say due to the love of the club. We should be doing all we can to get into a national league and become sustainable within it . How are we goi g to do that without investment ? I’ve no idea . Personally I find it sad and heartbreaking that we are in this awful league The problem is the National League is even more depressing than this one in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, I'd rather be in it, but it's a miserable league. Long-term, we need more regionalised football in my opinion, and hopefully this pandemic will shift that debate along.
This. The NL is the worst league of the lot to be stuck in. It's noticeable that a lot of the people are complaining we're in a 'crap regional league', are exiles. The sad fact is though the games aren't more enjoyable in the NL. Games against Woking, Dover, etc, are less interesting than those against the likes of Hereford, Darlo etc. There's more money bags funded clubs around the NL, with hardly any supporters. The Northern clubs, however, are our more traditional opponents. We've all just slid down the pyramid. The NL is just the stepping stone into the promised land of the FL. The question we might need to be asking is "what is the real benefit of the Hybrid system?" After all it is more expensive than being part time. Is it to help attract and bring through the young players? If so, should we be playing those younger players more regularly? In that case, we may need to accept that could make getting promoted more difficult, at least in the short term.
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Nov 29, 2020 14:29:13 GMT
Dire. Grand looked finished in the play off game, and we talked him out of retirement... We look leggy, have no pace and our star signing can't pass a ball let alone a full back. Gone stale, needs a bit of a shake up. Goodwins cameo was promising though. A worry for me is that Livesey and Grand have a combined age of 71... One old head at the back in this league is fine but 2 will get exposed. Can’t knock either of them but Bern and Johnno should have got some pace and youth next to one of them. Anyway, beat Alfreton and it’d still be a solid enough start to the season. No? Totally agree re Livesey and Grand. Grand also gives the ball away a lot with his constant attempts at Hollywood passes. A win Tuesday would see us in the top 7 so solid enough yes, but I am concerned that the Saturday / Tuesday / Saturday run in to the busy Christmas fixtures will see our older players for whom we have no cover tired.
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Post by sealking on Nov 29, 2020 14:40:58 GMT
The problem is the National League is even more depressing than this one in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, I'd rather be in it, but it's a miserable league. Long-term, we need more regionalised football in my opinion, and hopefully this pandemic will shift that debate along.
This. The NL is the worst league of the lot to be stuck in. It's noticeable that a lot of the people are complaining we're in a 'crap regional league', are exiles. The sad fact is though the games aren't more enjoyable in the NL. Games against Woking, Dover, etc, are less interesting than those against the likes of Hereford, Darlo etc. There's more money bags funded clubs around the NL, with hardly any supporters. The Northern clubs, however, are our more traditional opponents. We've all just slid down the pyramid. The NL is just the stepping stone into the promised land of the FL. The question we might need to be asking is "what is the real benefit of the Hybrid system?" After all it is more expensive than being part time. Is it to help attract and bring through the young players? If so, should we be playing those younger players more regularly? In that case, we may need to accept that could make getting promoted more difficult, at least in the short term. As Time goes on I can't see any benefits of the hybrid model currently, especially this season as we'll be playing a midweek game most weeks.
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