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Post by dmcnally on Nov 24, 2021 22:56:04 GMT
The only worry I have is the board though excellent in lots of ways are not football people and will probably either have there own preference as we all do or they will be persuaded by an agent in to committing to the wrong man. An ex manager who I know well says that the problem with us is we have no football person on the board. It’s not really about who we get at this stage, the questions we need to ask as owners is how is the decision made and by who. We made a mistake by not kicking Neil upstairs when he left after our most successful run ever. My own opinion for what it’s worth should have skills to work with our budget which will only grow smaller after this season and can produce hard working teams. As chester fans we don’t expect to win all the time but we appreciate hard working teams that try and give us their best. Kevin Ratcliffe has sat on the panel for recruiting the last few managers IIRC |
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Post by MPW on Nov 24, 2021 23:35:12 GMT
It’s easy to criticise the board for the managerial appointments when it goes wrong, but bringing in Young, Burr and B&J were seen as coups at the time. You can argue McCarthy earned his chance, but the club did make the mistake of giving him an extended contract too soon. Bignot was always up against it when he inherited an awful squad and no money to do anything about it.
On this occasion, we have a half decent squad of players, we’re 5th highest goal scorers even without a regular goal scorer. Getting them to perform as a team like they did in the Boston game and with consistency will be key. If we can move a couple of players out and bring some in then hopefully we can start to move up the table. With Livesey being an experienced centre half, I’m hoping he can at least tighten up the defence and make us harder to beat.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Nov 24, 2021 23:37:03 GMT
Rio mentioned Tim Flowers I spoke with him during the summer He would like to get back into management I’m not sure if the commute from West Midlands would be an issue. I know his thoughts are centred around having a big string physical side and making his team hard to beat . He wasn’t working on a shoestring at Solihull moors so that might be an issue ? As Others have said I’m not sure we could get Keith curle Decent shout for the job he did at Solihull - not sure what happened at Barnet though, only lasting 12 games and losing 11 of them. Think big, strong and tough to beat is what we need. Frank I was advised that the chairman at Barnet decided to cut their budget drastically but then still expected results with mediocre resources . He then had a change of heart hence why they picked up a bit. Personally I think you can draw a CNN line through his brief stint there. |
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Post by cameandabel on Nov 25, 2021 6:47:47 GMT
The only worry I have is the board though excellent in lots of ways are not football people and will probably either have there own preference as we all do or they will be persuaded by an agent in to committing to the wrong man. An ex manager who I know well says that the problem with us is we have no football person on the board. It’s not really about who we get at this stage, the questions we need to ask as owners is how is the decision made and by who. So Jim Green, who has been involved in football in some form virtually all his life and has covered the sport in the media, isn’t a ‘football person’? Can’t agree there. By that definition the vast majority of managerial appointments in the history of English football weren’t made by ‘football people’ - including when we appointed the likes of Ken Roberts in years gone by. As has been said, there have been people who have managed professionally on the panels previously anyway. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2021 7:44:03 GMT
Three or four wins in the next half dozen matches could see us climb the league and be within touching distance of the playoffs. I don't think that this squad is as bad as the position currently suggests. At times, albeit too infrequently, they have played really good, exciting football. With luck, and we are due some, there maybe a positive reaction from the team. New Manager bounce etc, I would stick with Danny Livesey. Maybe the start of something special! Or maybe not ;-) Well the next 5 games will tell us all we need to know about this squad of players. IF they were to win all 5 convincingly i would suggest they were not playing for the managers. IF they lose or only pick up a couple of points+ get knocked out of the trophy at Curzon then the squad is as bad as we thought. 5 games to decide? |
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Post by agl on Nov 25, 2021 8:45:42 GMT
Three or four wins in the next half dozen matches could see us climb the league and be within touching distance of the playoffs. I don't think that this squad is as bad as the position currently suggests. At times, albeit too infrequently, they have played really good, exciting football. With luck, and we are due some, there maybe a positive reaction from the team. New Manager bounce etc, I would stick with Danny Livesey. Maybe the start of something special! Or maybe not ;-) Well the next 5 games will tell us all we need to know about this squad of players. IF they were to win all 5 convincingly i would suggest they were not playing for the managers. IF they lose or only pick up a couple of points+ get knocked out of the trophy at Curzon then the squad is as bad as we thought. 5 games to decide? If only it were that simple. Why is it that clubs often get a new manager bounce? Imo its nothing to do with 'not playing for' the old manager. More a case of matters having gone stale and a fresh approach giving the place a lift and the sense among players that the slate is wiped clean. Players who were out of favour feel they can make an impact, while those who were favourites under the old bosses maybe feel they have to prove themselves again. Equally, after a few games it can easily slide downhill again. Of course, if we really are as shit as the table suggests we could make Klopp and Guardiola the new Bern and Jonno and still not see an improvement 😂 |
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Post by scott on Nov 25, 2021 9:00:40 GMT
Paul Simpson incoming to guide Livesey? Paul Simpson ex Carlisle manager? Is he at Bristol city but not well at the moment? |
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Post by Anders on Nov 25, 2021 10:02:40 GMT
Paul Simpson incoming to guide Livesey? Paul Simpson ex Carlisle manager? Is he at Bristol city but not well at the moment? Just left them a few weeks ago, he's been working though after taking leave earlier in the year. Just noticed Tim Flowers is off the market after going to Stratford Town. Not sure how that would have worked with our players anyway given that he's more a rugby coach than a football one. |
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Post by bluetartan on Nov 25, 2021 12:23:22 GMT
We need to appoint first and foremost a coach, someone that can coach what we have and make them work as a team and get the most out of what we’ve got as I don’t see any money to bring in players apart on loan.
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Post by iandychesterfc on Nov 25, 2021 12:39:10 GMT
Andy Morrison's achievements in the LoW must make him a stand-out candidate if he does apply.
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Post by weareblues on Nov 25, 2021 12:43:40 GMT
Andy Morrison's achievements in the LoW must make him a stand-out candidate if he does apply. Half his team played for us 10 years ago... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2021 12:46:45 GMT
Andy Morrison's achievements in the LoW must make him a stand-out candidate if he does apply. Personally, if he got us results and made us a consistent solid side I wouldn't complain. Also handy with local contacts |
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Post by utb on Nov 25, 2021 12:47:07 GMT
Personally I'd prefer Ruscoe over Morrison. A better style of football and as mentioned above, the pressure of working for TNS may serve him well at a club like this. Would be happy with either though.
Half the names mentioned won't drop into the NLN. Surely Jim Gannon would be interested though.
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Post by cityboy5705 on Nov 25, 2021 12:49:58 GMT
Personally I'd prefer Ruscoe over Morrison. A better style of football and as mentioned above, the pressure of working for TNS may serve him well at a club like this. Would be happy with either though. Half the names mentioned won't drop into the NLN. Surely Jim Gannon would be interested though. only problem is Gannon hates us when he was Stockport manager ruscoe couldn't win the league of Wales with Megabucks so that's a no from me |
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Post by Si on Nov 25, 2021 12:52:47 GMT
Personally I'd prefer Ruscoe over Morrison. A better style of football and as mentioned above, the pressure of working for TNS may serve him well at a club like this. Would be happy with either though. Half the names mentioned won't drop into the NLN. Surely Jim Gannon would be interested though. only problem is Gannon hates us when he was Stockport manager ruscoe couldn't win the league of Wales with Megabucks so that's a no from me Is this the same Scott Ruscoe that won the Welsh Premier twice with The New Saints? |
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Nov 25, 2021 12:53:46 GMT
Gannon is a nut job, listen to any podcasts with his ex players. The Sky story alone...
Andy Morrison would be effective, but very difficult to manage.
Keith Curle, Ian Sharps won't drop to our level.
I'd give Danny Livesey to the end of the season then look to build a young full time side under Calum, Danny and Colin Woodthorpe.
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Post by scott on Nov 25, 2021 13:02:13 GMT
Gannon is a nut job, listen to any podcasts with his ex players. The Sky story alone... Andy Morrison would be effective, but very difficult to manage. Keith Curle, Ian Sharps won't drop to our level. I'd give Danny Livesey to the end of the season then look to build a young full time side under Calum, Danny and Colin Woodthorpe. Where is Ian sharps |
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Nov 25, 2021 13:04:35 GMT
Gannon is a nut job, listen to any podcasts with his ex players. The Sky story alone... Andy Morrison would be effective, but very difficult to manage. Keith Curle, Ian Sharps won't drop to our level. I'd give Danny Livesey to the end of the season then look to build a young full time side under Calum, Danny and Colin Woodthorpe. Where is Ian sharps Walsall 1st team coach. |
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Post by weareblues on Nov 25, 2021 13:13:41 GMT
Jim Gannon clashes with players far to much only really works out for him at stockport Besides hes at Hyde anyway
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Post by scott on Nov 25, 2021 13:13:53 GMT
Personally I'd prefer Ruscoe over Morrison. A better style of football and as mentioned above, the pressure of working for TNS may serve him well at a club like this. Would be happy with either though. Half the names mentioned won't drop into the NLN. Surely Jim Gannon would be interested though. only problem is Gannon hates us when he was Stockport manager ruscoe couldn't win the league of Wales with Megabucks so that's a no from me Didn't Gannon get the sack from Stockport for bullying? Could he work with a small budget? |
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Post by cityboy5705 on Nov 25, 2021 13:15:23 GMT
only problem is Gannon hates us when he was Stockport manager ruscoe couldn't win the league of Wales with Megabucks so that's a no from me Is this the same Scott Ruscoe that won the Welsh Premier twice with The New Saints? with money could he without it |
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Post by cityboy5705 on Nov 25, 2021 13:15:57 GMT
only problem is Gannon hates us when he was Stockport manager ruscoe couldn't win the league of Wales with Megabucks so that's a no from me Didn't Gannon get the sack from Stockport for bullying? Could he work with a small budget? yes that's the other thing have Hyde got money |
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Post by Moltisanti on Nov 25, 2021 13:16:46 GMT
Gannon is a nut job, listen to any podcasts with his ex players. The Sky story alone... Andy Morrison would be effective, but very difficult to manage. Keith Curle, Ian Sharps won't drop to our level. I'd give Danny Livesey to the end of the season then look to build a young full time side under Calum, Danny and Colin Woodthorpe. Yep, Gannon is a total helmet. His own player made him get off the team coach once and dumped at the road side. |
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Post by Moltisanti on Nov 25, 2021 13:17:19 GMT
Is this the same Scott Ruscoe that won the Welsh Premier twice with The New Saints? with money could he without it You make no sense whatsoever. |
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Post by cityboy5705 on Nov 25, 2021 13:21:54 GMT
with money could he without it You make no sense whatsoever. my point is he had money to burn at tns Chester has no money could he work on a small budget I have doubts not for me I'm afraid although he was a good player for us |
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Post by cityboy5705 on Nov 25, 2021 13:22:51 GMT
Gannon is a nut job, listen to any podcasts with his ex players. The Sky story alone... Andy Morrison would be effective, but very difficult to manage. Keith Curle, Ian Sharps won't drop to our level. I'd give Danny Livesey to the end of the season then look to build a young full time side under Calum, Danny and Colin Woodthorpe. Yep, Gannon is a total helmet. His own player made him get off the team coach once and dumped at the road side. is that true never knew that heard he is a helmet as well |
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Post by superman on Nov 25, 2021 13:31:27 GMT
Ian Sharps was sacked by Walsall a few years ago now. He has since that time been lead u16 coach at Wolves academy. |
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Post by tonya on Nov 25, 2021 13:45:31 GMT
Askey - reputation for getting the most out of a tight budget Bern and Jonno - reputation for embracing the pressure of being title favourites with a healthy budget Manager swap with York anyone?! On a serious note, a few names we should be putting a word in for, before any ad goes out… Keith Curle Tim Flowers Steve Davis Anthony Limbrick Steve Watson Maybe even a chat with Ricketts or Keates, or even Wilkin… John Askey would still be my favourite though. Maybe something to be done in the summer if Livesey sees the season out. Some unease in York with how Askey became manager, so perhaps a chance at the end of the season. some good shouts not keates though his style of football is worse than Morrison coming round to Tim flowers now As Chester fans we do expect to win most of the time if we want promotion. |
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Nov 25, 2021 13:52:17 GMT
Ian Sharps was sacked by Walsall a few years ago now. He has since that time been lead u16 coach at Wolves academy. Ooh might be interested then. All went tits for Jon McCarthy after he left. |
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Post by superman on Nov 25, 2021 13:55:41 GMT
Ian Sharps was sacked by Walsall a few years ago now. He has since that time been lead u16 coach at Wolves academy. Ooh might be interested then. All went tits for Jon McCarthy after he left. Think he has got more sense! |
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