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Post by paulie on Apr 24, 2017 19:47:10 GMT
What is the point of waving a red card? It will divide the fan base and put even more pressure on JM. It's a no. The whole point is to put pressure on McCarty and the board to show him the door. |
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Post by whopper1 on Apr 24, 2017 19:50:56 GMT
Terrible idea. Whatever you may think about him, he's a genuinely nice bloke who doesn't deserve to be baited and hounded by his own fans. Like it or lump it, it's highly likely he'll be here next season, so quite what it will achieve is anyone's guess. Harold shipman was a nice bloke as well |
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Post by Blue4ever on Apr 24, 2017 19:57:21 GMT
What is the point of waving a red card? It will divide the fan base and put even more pressure on JM. It's a no. Good, he should be under immense pressure. 15 defeats in 20 games. Worst form team in the league over last 20 league games. Sorry but the more pressure he is under the better. Absolutely unacceptable form. If the goal was to keep us up, over the last 1/2 season he will take us down next year on current form without doubt. Bollocks to this he is a nice guy, he is useless and out of his depth and the last month has made me hate him with his childish outbursts and ridiculous post match interviews and failure to acknowledge this disgraceful 2017 of football.. The club needs to get rid so we can get someone in before the transfer dealings commence. The more people who show there displeasure on Saturday the better. I would say we have been very patient as football fans. There have been far worse show of hatred to managers on lesser runs. |
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Post by paulie on Apr 24, 2017 20:36:55 GMT
Terrible idea. Whatever you may think about him, he's a genuinely nice bloke who doesn't deserve to be baited and hounded by his own fans. Like it or lump it, it's highly likely he'll be here next season, so quite what it will achieve is anyone's guess. Harold shipman was a nice bloke as well Good boxer too. Had a lethal jab! |
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Post by durdy on Apr 24, 2017 20:49:18 GMT
Maybe the happy clappers could just wag their fingers at him or wave a yellow
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Post by Fed up on Apr 25, 2017 2:37:37 GMT
Terrible idea. Whatever you may think about him, he's a genuinely nice bloke who doesn't deserve to be baited and hounded by his own fans. Like it or lump it, it's highly likely he'll be here next season, so quite what it will achieve is anyone's guess. I take it then, that you're a Wrexham supporter? You obviously don't care about Chester and the Blues supporters or the fact that the manager and half his team have not even been trying in 2017. |
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Post by Jeff on Apr 25, 2017 6:23:18 GMT
You don't agree with me so you must be a wrexham fan.
Top logic
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Post by bing on Apr 25, 2017 7:22:24 GMT
Terrible idea. Whatever you may think about him, he's a genuinely nice bloke who doesn't deserve to be baited and hounded by his own fans. Like it or lump it, it's highly likely he'll be here next season, so quite what it will achieve is anyone's guess. I take it then, that you're a Wrexham supporter? You obviously don't care about Chester and the Blues supporters or the fact that the manager and half his team have not even been trying in 2017. Why? Because I suggest treating someone with respect? For the record, I've been a loyal supporter since the mid eighties. I've also been brought up to treat other people as you would want them to treat you. |
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Post by ted the count on Apr 25, 2017 8:05:24 GMT
Just spoken to the club and i will be on hand this Saturday to give out free emergency hand bag's to all DC drama queen's to put their little red card's in  |
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Post by Coybs1967 on Apr 26, 2017 11:35:29 GMT
17 points from our last 22 league games and some are still defending him get a grip he deserves the flack he should never of got us in to this mess we were only 9 points outside the play offs after we beat ferriby at home on november 29th
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Post by billyw on Apr 26, 2017 12:08:13 GMT
Just spoken to the club and i will be on hand this Saturday to give out free emergency hand bag's to all DC drama queen's to put their little red card's in I get the impression that there are some on here who don't give a toss about our results or which league we play in as long as we have a 'nice man' as manager, however clueless he may be. |
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Apr 26, 2017 12:19:13 GMT
Why do people find it so hard understand why fans want change?
If any other club had gone on a run as bad as ours then their messageboard would contain very similar sentiments to this one.
Nothing against JM but I think we'll live to regret it if we sit tight and hope for the best next season.
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Post by anonymous on Apr 26, 2017 12:24:07 GMT
red cards, yellow cards, flack, abuse etc etc..... The only way the board will sit up and take notice of the feeling against JM is with a no show. Show your displeasure by not turning up and giving them your money. Nothing hits home like a hit in the pocket! I'm sure if the crowd was less than a thousand for the last game of the season - he would be gone by the start of the next!
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Post by mcseal on Apr 26, 2017 12:35:59 GMT
Why do people find it so hard understand why fans want change? If any other club had gone on a run as bad as ours then their messageboard would contain very similar sentiments to this one. Nothing against JM but I think we'll live to regret it if we sit tight and hope for the best next season. It's not hard to understand but where are you going to find the £100k needed to settle his contract? Anyone who wants JM out can't just pretend that this isn't an issue. |
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Post by Frustrated on Apr 26, 2017 12:45:11 GMT
red cards, yellow cards, flack, abuse etc etc..... The only way the board will sit up and take notice of the feeling against JM is with a no show. Show your displeasure by not turning up and giving them your money. Nothing hits home like a hit in the pocket! I'm sure if the crowd was less than a thousand for the last game of the season - he would be gone by the start of the next! After talking to many long standing and moderate supporters in recent days, there is a general feeling that whilst Jabbering Jon and Pipeline Mark are still at the helm, season ticket sales and sponsorship will be severely hit . Whilst there is this "bury our head in the sand" attitude from the board, it is the only way for supporters to show their true feelings, ultimately the majority of fans will show their feelings at the "box office", will Happy Clappers be correct and ticket sales and sponsorship increase, or will the silent majority view win over with a protest hitting where it really hurts in the pocket.. The next couple of months will show the answers!!. |
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Post by blues on Apr 26, 2017 12:51:22 GMT
red cards, yellow cards, flack, abuse etc etc..... The only way the board will sit up and take notice of the feeling against JM is with a no show. Show your displeasure by not turning up and giving them your money. Nothing hits home like a hit in the pocket! I'm sure if the crowd was less than a thousand for the last game of the season - he would be gone by the start of the next! This sort of attitude is what's killing the club. With a "hit in the pocket", comes a lower budget, comes a worse team and hello Conference North. If people really want us to compete they won't stay away. It's like being in the Vaughan era again, don't give your money to the club. In those days it was completely justified as he was just ripping us off, this is a totally different scenario where we need as much income as we can get. And you can't blame the club for no fundraising etc when you are adding to the problem. Not having a go, this is just as I see it. |
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Post by dmcnally on Apr 26, 2017 13:30:34 GMT
red cards, yellow cards, flack, abuse etc etc..... The only way the board will sit up and take notice of the feeling against JM is with a no show. Show your displeasure by not turning up and giving them your money. Nothing hits home like a hit in the pocket! I'm sure if the crowd was less than a thousand for the last game of the season - he would be gone by the start of the next! You say it like we have some idiot at the realm like Stephen Vaughan. We don't. We're a fan-owned club going through a sticky patch. Literally couldn't of a worse thing to do than come on here and encourage fans to purposely miss the game to increase our losses. How are the club meant to sack McCathy when they can't afford to, as fans are staying away? |
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Post by billyw on Apr 26, 2017 15:28:12 GMT
red cards, yellow cards, flack, abuse etc etc..... The only way the board will sit up and take notice of the feeling against JM is with a no show. Show your displeasure by not turning up and giving them your money. Nothing hits home like a hit in the pocket! I'm sure if the crowd was less than a thousand for the last game of the season - he would be gone by the start of the next! I have made my position clear that I think McCarthy has proved to be a disaster as manager and unless there is some drastic change in the management team, we will be relegated by Christmas. It is unlikely that I will attend games while McCarthy serves up his dross but while expecting the worst, I will still be buying my season ticket, contributing to the lottery and squad builder etc - why, because I love the club and have no desire to 'hit in the pocket'. Who are we hitting if we withdraw our financial support - the answer is ourselves. McCarthy and co. will waltz off to other jobs but what happens to the club - it will die or at best stumble along in the Evostick so please let your feelings be known by all means, but don't talk of boycotting the game - the risk is too great. |
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Post by dmcnally on Apr 26, 2017 16:02:47 GMT
red cards, yellow cards, flack, abuse etc etc..... The only way the board will sit up and take notice of the feeling against JM is with a no show. Show your displeasure by not turning up and giving them your money. Nothing hits home like a hit in the pocket! I'm sure if the crowd was less than a thousand for the last game of the season - he would be gone by the start of the next! I have made my position clear that I think McCarthy has proved to be a disaster as manager and unless there is some drastic change in the management team, we will be relegated by Christmas. It is unlikely that I will attend games while McCarthy serves up his dross but while expecting the worst, I will still be buying my season ticket, contributing to the lottery and squad builder etc - why, because I love the club and have no desire to 'hit in the pocket'. Who are we hitting if we withdraw our financial support - the answer is ourselves. McCarthy and co. will waltz off to other jobs but what happens to the club - it will die or at best stumble along in the Evostick so please let your feelings be known by all means, but don't talk of boycotting the game - the risk is too great. Very well put and well done to you Billy. I don't think anyone has enjoyed 2017 watching the Blues but boycotting games with a view to hitting our own club in the pocket certainly isn't the way to go about things. |
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Post by Broughton Bob. on Apr 26, 2017 16:17:02 GMT
red cards, yellow cards, flack, abuse etc etc..... The only way the board will sit up and take notice of the feeling against JM is with a no show. Show your displeasure by not turning up and giving them your money. Nothing hits home like a hit in the pocket! I'm sure if the crowd was less than a thousand for the last game of the season - he would be gone by the start of the next! I have made my position clear that I think McCarthy has proved to be a disaster as manager and unless there is some drastic change in the management team, we will be relegated by Christmas. It is unlikely that I will attend games while McCarthy serves up his dross but while expecting the worst, I will still be buying my season ticket, contributing to the lottery and squad builder etc - why state, because I love the club and have no desire to 'hit in the pocket'. Who are we hitting if we withdraw our financial support - the answer is ourselves. McCarthy and co. will waltz off to other jobs but what happens to the club - it will die or at best stumble along in the Evostick so please let your feelings be known by all means, but don't talk of boycotting the game - the risk is too great. Unfortunately there is a momentum building amongst the moderate supporters, not the usual keyboard warriors of either viewpoint, that things must change on the managerial front. The record since Christmas, plus the ridiculous Alan Partridge style interview responses , have made the silent majority think, "do I need this rubbish". The board of directors have a massive responsibility here, there is obvious discontent, you can argue separately about numbers etc., but they must come out with a definitive statement regarding McCarthy, do they back him or sack him, to do nothing is a dereliction of duty; when that statement is released, supporters, diehard or floating, can then decide how or if they spend their money in the coming months. Sadly McCarthy is turning himself and the club into a Marmite proposition, which saddens me. |
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Post by worried on Apr 26, 2017 16:31:36 GMT
I have made my position clear that I think McCarthy has proved to be a disaster as manager and unless there is some drastic change in the management team, we will be relegated by Christmas. It is unlikely that I will attend games while McCarthy serves up his dross but while expecting the worst, I will still be buying my season ticket, contributing to the lottery and squad builder etc - why state, because I love the club and have no desire to 'hit in the pocket'. Who are we hitting if we withdraw our financial support - the answer is ourselves. McCarthy and co. will waltz off to other jobs but what happens to the club - it will die or at best stumble along in the Evostick so please let your feelings be known by all means, but don't talk of boycotting the game - the risk is too great. Unfortunately there is a momentum building amongst the moderate supporters, not the usual keyboard warriors of either viewpoint, that things must change on the managerial front. The record since Christmas, plus the ridiculous Alan Partridge style interview responses , have made the silent majority think, "do I need this rubbish". The board of directors have a massive responsibility here, there is obvious discontent, you can argue separately about numbers etc., but they must come out with a definitive statement regarding McCarthy, do they back him or sack him, to do nothing is a dereliction of duty; when that statement is released, supporters, diehard or floating, can then decide how or if they spend their money in the coming months. Sadly McCarthy is turning himself and the club into a Marmite proposition, which saddens me.I have just read the latest ramblings of our " manager " in the chronicle www.chesterchronicle.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/chester-fc-boss-jon-mccarthy-12948585He is in another world, he just carries on the same rubbish as he did when he was an assistant manager, budget budget budget, he knew what he was taking on; so shut the f*** up about it . I agree that he was the cheap option, but do not agree that we are a cheap low class club, which is what he infers! He more or less says that his " aim " for next season is to stay in the league, what lack of ambition, how can you expect players to be up for it ;when they are told we only need to stay in the league ! His weird logic will take us down, so please all of you speak up to get rid. And if as many say, he is a nice man, he would do the right thing and resign, but he is here for the pay off and nothing else ! |
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Post by Venty on Apr 26, 2017 16:38:36 GMT
It is interesting that when McCarthy took the job, he was very clear in avoiding mentioning the budget as an excuse, knowing that Burr had used it to the point where I think it was one of the principal reasons for his sacking.
Now we are where we are, the old budget excuse is being brought out every week again. It's also interesting how his "long term plan for getting back into the Football League" which we heard a lot of when we were around the play-offs has now transformed into "we were relegation fodder at the start of the season".
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Post by worried on Apr 26, 2017 16:44:01 GMT
It is interesting that when McCarthy took the job, he was very clear in avoiding mentioning the budget as an excuse, knowing that Burr had used it to the point where I think it was one of the principal reasons for his sacking. Now we are where we are, the old budget excuse is being brought out every week again. It's also interesting how his "long term plan for getting back into the Football League" which we heard a lot of when we were around the play-offs has now transformed into "we were relegation fodder at the start of the season". You have hit it right on the nail with Macarthy's quote in the chronicle, he has no respect for the club or its supporters !! |
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Post by trev on Apr 26, 2017 16:44:24 GMT
I am really surprised on his PR approach in the media. His mock outrage of anyone daring to question his position takes the biscuit. I am hoping that once the dust has settled after Saturdays match (and the "awards" dinner) that talks swiftly begin on an appropriate severance package for him, and also Mr Iwelumo is relieved of his duties (whatever they are). I know some have made reasonable points in his defence, and tbf he has met the objective of avoiding relegation - just. But the record and overall standard of performance have been simply awful for nearly five months and well beyond anything most other clubs would/could tolerate - especially at home. The simple truth is I don't believe, despite the purple patch in Autumn, that he really has the ability or judgement to improve things even with a refreshed squad and increased budget.
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Post by worried on Apr 26, 2017 16:52:03 GMT
It is interesting that when McCarthy took the job, he was very clear in avoiding mentioning the budget as an excuse, knowing that Burr had used it to the point where I think it was one of the principal reasons for his sacking. Now we are where we are, the old budget excuse is being brought out every week again. It's also interesting how his "long term plan for getting back into the Football League" which we heard a lot of when we were around the play-offs has now transformed into "we were relegation fodder at the start of the season". You have hit it right on the nail with Macarthy's quote in the chronicle, he has no respect for the club or its supporters !! I would think that the club should be looking into his continual running down of the club and its supporters! Hopefully there is enough to give him a fairly heavy push out the door with only a diidy severance package, irrespective of the result next Saturday. I have supported Chester for more than 60 years, this is the most disrespetive employee of the club I have seen or heard !! |
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Post by Broughton Bob. on Apr 26, 2017 17:02:23 GMT
I am really surprised on his PR approach in the media. His mock outrage of anyone daring to question his position takes the biscuit. I am hoping that once the dust has settled after Saturdays match (and the "awards" dinner) that talks swiftly begin on an appropriate severance package for him, and also Mr Iwelumo is relieved of his duties (whatever they are). I know some have made reasonable points in his defence, and tbf he has met the objective of avoiding relegation - just. But the record and overall standard of performance have been simply awful for nearly five months and well beyond anything most other clubs would/could tolerate - especially at home. The simple truth is I don't believe, despite the purple patch in Autumn, that he really has the ability or judgement to improve things even with a refreshed squad and increased budget. Spot on, his PR and interview techniques are childish in the extreme. Couple this with his main activity, which should be managing a Conference football club, and his abilities fall well short of what the majority would consider as acceptable. The ridiculous statement a couple of months ago, that he had offered deals the "virtually all of the squad" just beggers belief. How can any responsible CEO or board of directors entrust this, apology for a football manager, with assembling a squad for next season, he is turning the club into a laughing stock. His pre match talk tomorrow, will no doubt detail how he intends to re arrange the deck chairs on the good ship Chester FC. |
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Apr 26, 2017 20:47:48 GMT
Why do people find it so hard understand why fans want change? If any other club had gone on a run as bad as ours then their messageboard would contain very similar sentiments to this one. Nothing against JM but I think we'll live to regret it if we sit tight and hope for the best next season. It's not hard to understand but where are you going to find the £100k needed to settle his contract?  Anyone who wants JM out can't just pretend that this isn't an issue. Nobody is trying to and it's a good point. You could, however, argue that persevering with the current set up may also have serious financial implications. |
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Post by worried on Apr 27, 2017 4:50:56 GMT
It's not hard to understand but where are you going to find the £100k needed to settle his contract? Anyone who wants JM out can't just pretend that this isn't an issue. Nobody is trying to and it's a good point. You could, however, argue that persevering with the current set up may also have serious financial implications. You put him on gardening leave, which means we carry on paying him, but he does not go to work, untill he takes another job and resigns !! www.gov.uk/handing-in-your-notice/gardening-leaveI used this a couple of times with troublesome or useless employess, it is a very common practice ! |
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Post by dismissal on Apr 27, 2017 5:12:39 GMT
Nobody is trying to and it's a good point. You could, however, argue that persevering with the current set up may also have serious financial implications. You put him on gardening leave, which means we carry on paying him, but he does not go to work, untill he takes another job and resigns !! www.gov.uk/handing-in-your-notice/gardening-leaveI used this a couple of times with troublesome or useless employess, it is a very common practice ! Yes that is correct, but he would have to be dismissed on the grounds that he can not do his job to the standard required, then he would be given gardening leave . The club would never have to pay him for the remainder of his contract using the laid down procedure ! www.gov.uk/dismiss-staff/dismissals-on-capability-or-conduct-grounds |
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Post by Anonymous on Apr 27, 2017 7:06:39 GMT
I wasn't suggesting for one minute that we have an all out boycott of all games until JM goes. I was just responding to the original suggestion of showing red cards at the last game of the season. The last home game of the season is usually a party atmosphere (unless your relegated), and I just think that the board would sit up and take notice if the ground was empty and they knew the reason why. I get all the "you're only hurting the club by not giving then your money" argument, but it would only be a one off game and I firmly believe that if JM stays next season, then the club will be in a much worst financial situation when we are relegated! Just my opinion, but I'm entitled to it as much as anyone else. I'm also entitled to decide when and where I spend my hard earned cash - and the club should take note, and not take it for granted that we'll keep turning up every week no matter what sort of dross we're served!
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