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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2022 20:01:54 GMT
I think the fact the Flintshire Mino Raiola has jumped straight on here to defend and justify his actions says a lot to me. A few of us noted the strange relationship between ‘agent’ and a few of the team and staff last year, and oh look, a 3 month ban. Shall we do a go fund me for the fine since he ‘represents’ our players? 😂😂 Or maybe he was in the process of becoming an agent while at the same time helping out at the club and forged relationships with the players, maybe they signed with him because they like and trust him Shall we start witch hunts for the other agents that represent the other players?
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Sept 1, 2022 20:12:57 GMT
Said it before and I’ll say it again, if we all woke up tomorrow morning and there were no agents in football, things would continue. Agents represent everything that’s wrong with the sport - ESPECIALLY in non-league part-time semi-pro football.
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Post by Si on Sept 2, 2022 8:40:33 GMT
I think certain posters have had an agenda with this guy since day 1, maybe there's a personal gripe. As soon as he's put one foot out of line they are all over it like a tramp on chips. I'd say Chester FC has had plenty of benefit out of this guy as an agent and volunteer, and perhaps he's made an honest mistake like any of us are capable of doing.
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Post by loskasleftfoot on Sept 2, 2022 8:53:26 GMT
I think certain posters have had an agenda with this guy since day 1, maybe there's a personal gripe. As soon as he's put one foot out of line they are all over it like a tramp on chips. I'd say Chester FC has had plenty of benefit out of this guy as an agent and volunteer, and perhaps he's made an honest mistake like any of us are capable of doing. 100% correct Si The two welsh based posters clearly have sn agenda against someone who is held in high regard by a number of our players and has helped out the club as a volunteer in the past.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Sept 2, 2022 9:01:01 GMT
Not for me to speak up on behalf of the other guy, but you may want to check Google Maps to find out where Bruera is.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2022 9:15:24 GMT
I think certain posters have had an agenda with this guy since day 1, maybe there's a personal gripe. As soon as he's put one foot out of line they are all over it like a tramp on chips. I'd say Chester FC has had plenty of benefit out of this guy as an agent and volunteer, and perhaps he's made an honest mistake like any of us are capable of doing. 100% correct Si The two welsh based posters clearly have sn agenda against someone who is held in high regard by a number of our players and has helped out the club as a volunteer in the past. You’ll find Bruera / Saighton is in England, unless Drakeford has started an invasion?
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Post by Lobster on Sept 2, 2022 9:58:09 GMT
Nothing against the agent personally, who as far as I know I've never met, but I'm not very surprised to read this. The whole thing seemed odd from day one to me, starting with a thread about Stanway appearing on here before he'd even signed for us. This was part of the reason why I found all the talk about Stanway so tiresome last season. The sad thing is he's a decent young keeper.
I've never heard anything to convince me agents bring anything but toxicity to the game.
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Post by avfo on Sept 23, 2022 18:00:38 GMT
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Sept 23, 2022 18:15:52 GMT
Good move for all concerned. Wyll gets games, FC cover his wages. He isn't going to oust Tyrer in a hurry.
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Post by iamaCestrian on Sept 23, 2022 19:14:55 GMT
Good move for all concerned. Wyll gets games, FC cover his wages. He isn't going to oust Tyrer in a hurry. He would have to get Everton's permission to oust Tyrer.
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Post by Wortleyblue on Sept 23, 2022 19:25:29 GMT
Great move for the lad he needs game time he has a great future in the game we need to keep him on our books
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Post by Lobster on Sept 23, 2022 20:25:54 GMT
So what happens if Tyrer gets injured or recalled?
I struggle to understand the logic of having two keepers who aren't 40 between them on the books. If we're not playing Stanway, let him go and get another outfield player.
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Post by Curva Nord on Sept 23, 2022 20:51:22 GMT
So what happens if Tyrer gets injured or recalled? I struggle to understand the logic of having two keepers who aren't 40 between them on the books. If we're not playing Stanway, let him go and get another outfield player. If Tyrer gets injured we recall Stanway, he's in Manchester, not the International Space Station. Tyrer I imagine will spend the season here and won't be coming back next year. Whereas Stanway is still signed to us, I'm guessing on not a very expensive contract.
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Sept 23, 2022 20:54:34 GMT
Good move for all concerned. Wyll gets games, FC cover his wages. He isn't going to oust Tyrer in a hurry. He would have to get Everton's permission to oust Tyrer. He'd also have to improve his goalkeeping skills.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Sept 23, 2022 22:38:19 GMT
This is the right move for all parties. I feel incredibly sorry for Wyll given he has been sitting in the stands for every match this season, as it has been no fault of his own because he has barely put a foot wrong for us. However, we are in an obscure scenario where we have two top goalkeepers in him and Harry Tyrer, and given Harry is on loan from Everton I presume they have a say in whether he starts for us, otherwise they would want him to be elsewhere. Tyrer was actually meant to go out on loan to Tranmere Rovers, but it fell through at the final hurdle, hence he is here now. The problem we have, however, is even though Tyrer is such a good goalkeeper, it is very unlikely that he will be here next season once his loan spell ends, whereas Stanway is actually contracted with us yet he isn’t playing. Therefore, I think the best thing that can happen now is for Wyll to stay out on loan for the rest of the season in the Pitching In Northern Premier League Premier Division so he can get match fitness, then hopefully he can sign on again next Summer with a guarantee that he will be first choice. At the same time we can make the most out of Tyrer who has really impressed me so far. It’s inevitable Tyrer will be gone by the end of the season, but we can’t afford to lose both, so it is right that Wyll gets some game time for the time being. It must be a really difficult situation for Calum McIntyre, but in this instance I think he’s right that both ‘keepers need to be playing (albeit for different clubs).
Good luck Wyll!
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Post by Lobster on Sept 24, 2022 16:38:22 GMT
So what happens if Tyrer gets injured or recalled? I struggle to understand the logic of having two keepers who aren't 40 between them on the books. If we're not playing Stanway, let him go and get another outfield player. If Tyrer gets injured we recall Stanway, he's in Manchester, not the International Space Station. Tyrer I imagine will spend the season here and won't be coming back next year. Whereas Stanway is still signed to us, I'm guessing on not a very expensive contract. Don't get it myself. We're struggling to get an outfield team together and we've got a decent keeper on the books who we're loaning out. Might as well get rid of him and use his wage to get someone likely to start games.
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Post by yossergolf on Sept 24, 2022 16:57:19 GMT
We have been fortunate to get a keeper on loan from Everton for the season, however there will be a call back clause in the loan deal as there will be the expectation that he gets game time. Any premier club loaning players to lower leagues do so for the player to gain experience. Obviously Wyll is going to be a very good keeper and I’m sure at some point he will get a chance with us, when he does he has to grab it and make it impossible for Callum to drop him. If all we had was Wyll and he wasn’t playing well then many would be critical of not having a second keeper. It may look like a wasted wage but look at how many first choice players are unavailable through injury. We have a solid squad with options in many positions, much better than previous seasons.
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Post by Wortleyblue on Sept 24, 2022 17:01:53 GMT
We have been fortunate to get a keeper on loan from Everton for the season, however there will be a call back clause in the loan deal as there will be the expectation that he gets game time. Any premier club loaning players to lower leagues do so for the player to gain experience. Obviously Wyll is going to be a very good keeper and I’m sure at some point he will get a chance with us, when he does he has to grab it and make it impossible for Callum to drop him. If all we had was Wyll and he wasn’t playing well then many would be critical of not having a second keeper. It may look like a wasted wage but look at how many first choice players are unavailable through injury. We have a solid squad with options in many positions, much better than previous seasons. True and what looks like another serious injury today definitely a good move all round
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Post by happyclapper on Sept 24, 2022 18:26:54 GMT
Stanway voted Man of the match today - pulling off 4 brilliant 2nd half saves according to FC United radio
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Post by Curva Nord on Sept 24, 2022 19:28:44 GMT
If Tyrer gets injured we recall Stanway, he's in Manchester, not the International Space Station. Tyrer I imagine will spend the season here and won't be coming back next year. Whereas Stanway is still signed to us, I'm guessing on not a very expensive contract. Don't get it myself. We're struggling to get an outfield team together and we've got a decent keeper on the books who we're loaning out. Might as well get rid of him and use his wage to get someone likely to start games. What happens next season when Tyrer doesn't come back and we end up with a Grant Shenton again? Anyone decent is going to be signed up for the year anyway.
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Post by paw2904 on Sept 25, 2022 9:18:10 GMT
Tyrer is very good, so is Stanway.
Everyone was delighted when Wyll signed for us at the start of the season. Then we got Tyrer on loan from a Premier League team with the clear expectation that he would be our number one choice. Didn't understand the logic then. Still don't. Despite the fact that Tyrer has been excellent- no criticism of him. But, come next season, will Stanway sign for us again? Sort of doubt that.
I think we are wasting an exceptional talent by not having him learning his game with us. He is good. He will get better. He is, already, a very safe pair of hands. He will be of significant interest to Clubs higher up the pyramid. Big payday for us potentially.
Calum, in his post Buxton match interview, was clearly referring to the Tyrer/Stanway issue when he got a little defensive about looking after all the squad. As he says, there are undoubtedly background details that we are not aware of. We don't need to know. I am 100% sure Calum is doing what he thinks is best for the Club, the team, the fans. It is obvious he is Chester through and through. But it is legitimate for we as fans, as owners, to express our opinions in a polite and constructive manner. No need to be defensive. He made his decision and he is managing the issue.
I just disagree.
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Post by eltonblues on Sept 25, 2022 9:29:17 GMT
This is a pure guess, Everton have loaned us a quality player but they will expect him to play as many matches as possible as part of this deal. If we look after this loanee then that will open up more deals for this or next season. Its not as though Tyrer is a donkey is it? Yes Stanway is a decent young keeper but he needs pitch time to keep match sharpness and be ready should we need him.
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Post by Curva Nord on Sept 25, 2022 10:06:18 GMT
You'll also find with players in on loan, that for every week the player plays, the parent club pays his wage. I would also hazard a guess the games he doesn't play, we'll be paying it, or a substantial chunk of it.
I imagine Stanway will be a solid number 1 next season, to the disappointment of FOPB
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Post by southernblue on Sept 25, 2022 11:50:01 GMT
If Tyrer gets injured we recall Stanway, he's in Manchester, not the International Space Station. Tyrer I imagine will spend the season here and won't be coming back next year. Whereas Stanway is still signed to us, I'm guessing on not a very expensive contract. Don't get it myself. We're struggling to get an outfield team together and we've got a decent keeper on the books who we're loaning out. Might as well get rid of him and use his wage to get someone likely to start games. Tyrer could get recalled or injured in a second, it would be madness to let Stanway go and not have cover for Tyrer.
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Sept 25, 2022 16:28:30 GMT
Tyrer is very good, so is Stanway. Everyone was delighted when Wyll signed for us at the start of the season. Then we got Tyrer on loan from a Premier League team with the clear expectation that he would be our number one choice. Didn't understand the logic then. Still don't. Despite the fact that Tyrer has been excellent- no criticism of him. But, come next season, will Stanway sign for us again? Sort of doubt that. I think we are wasting an exceptional talent by not having him learning his game with us. He is good. He will get better. He is, already, a very safe pair of hands. He will be of significant interest to Clubs higher up the pyramid. Big payday for us potentially. Calum, in his post Buxton match interview, was clearly referring to the Tyrer/Stanway issue when he got a little defensive about looking after all the squad. As he says, there are undoubtedly background details that we are not aware of. We don't need to know. I am 100% sure Calum is doing what he thinks is best for the Club, the team, the fans. It is obvious he is Chester through and through. But it is legitimate for we as fans, as owners, to express our opinions in a polite and constructive manner. No need to be defensive. He made his decision and he is managing the issue. I just disagree. The management team will also see the two goalkeepers in situations we don't. Ie, at training, around the club, communication, agent intereference etc, and make their choice accordingly. There is a lot more to being a (semi) professional footballer than 90 odd minutes of game time. Before anybody gets defensive I'm not casting any aspersions.
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Post by borussiachester on Sept 25, 2022 19:32:41 GMT
He’s gone on a 28-day loan ffs, he’s still our player. Judging by a lot of the comments on here and on Twitter you’d think we’d sold him.
I was as puzzled as anyone when we signed Tyrer considering Wyll had only just penned a new deal, but the former is the better goalkeeper and it’d be pretty silly for us to deliberately play an inferior player just because he’s ‘ours’ - especially considering his contract only lasts as long as Tyrer’s loan. If Tyrer gets recalled in January then great, Stanway’s still under contract here and he’d be ready to step up as number one… hence why I don’t understand why people’s heads are falling off over a short-term loan which will allow him to play regularly and keep his fitness up.
It’s also worth noting that we’d still receive compensation for Wyll should a bigger team poach him at the end of the season, regardless of how much or how little he plays for us.
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Post by southernblue on Sept 26, 2022 17:53:00 GMT
He’s gone on a 28-day loan ffs, he’s still our player. Judging by a lot of the comments on here and on Twitter you’d think we’d sold him. I was as puzzled as anyone when we signed Tyrer considering Wyll had only just penned a new deal, but the former is the better goalkeeper and it’d be pretty silly for us to deliberately play an inferior player just because he’s ‘ours’ - especially considering his contract only lasts as long as Tyrer’s loan. If Tyrer gets recalled in January then great, Stanway’s still under contract here and he’d be ready to step up as number one… hence why I don’t understand why people’s heads are falling off over a short-term loan which will allow him to play regularly and keep his fitness up. It’s also worth noting that we’d still receive compensation for Wyll should a bigger team poach him at the end of the season, regardless of how much or how little he plays for us. Completely agree, my comment about madness to let him go was in reply to someone suggesting we get rid altogether. Makes perfect sense to give him game time, keep him fresh, interested, and developing match experience.
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Post by MPW on Oct 24, 2022 18:35:03 GMT
Stanway back at Chester after FC United didn’t extend his loan. Strange one.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 24, 2022 18:38:36 GMT
Hopefully we can find a club at a similar level to loan him out to, so he can continue to get game time.
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Post by bryndjones on Oct 24, 2022 19:08:42 GMT
With Cheshire Senior Cup and FA Trophy games coming up, it wouldn’t surprise me to see him get some game time for us in those matches. Makes sense, as Tyrer’s stay with us is finite, whereas if we look after Will, hopefully he’ll sign for us next season as he is also a huge talent.
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