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Post by Wortleyblue on Dec 5, 2022 11:19:34 GMT
Why has the chief executive of a part time non-league team paid for a blue tick on Twitter? Some ego that. Stupid question go back to wetting yourself over your pictures of Rob and Ryan
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Post by Curva Nord on Dec 5, 2022 12:50:17 GMT
Any charge for streaming at our level should cost more than it does to actually attend the match itself. This way it still encourages people in the area to attend games rather than sit at home and watch it on some live stream. Also if it ever did come down as far as this league, I'd like to think the money being taken by the NL will be used to make sure every club is provided with professional equipment to produce a first class stream worthy of the money paid to watch it, as some of those on offer during the covid times were awful Why should exiles pay more? So you're expecting people to make a round trip from, Inverness for example because it is cheaper for them to attend than it is to go the game? Or the elderly in the dead of winter. Chester has always been the same. The hardcore 1500 will always go. When we do well, the fair weathers turn up. I full expect our crowds to be up to at least 3500 come the end of the season. If we're in the same position. Streaming should be an alternative to going the game. Makes life easier for some people. Money will still come in.
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Post by cameandabel on Dec 6, 2022 8:17:32 GMT
I think another thing that has to be remembered when setting the prices for streaming is how many technical issues there were with it during the 2020-21 season. It felt like every away game there was a problem (I remember the stream packing up at York about 15 minutes from the end, for example) and I certainly wouldn’t say it’s a comparable product to watching the game in person.
People will probably be less forgiving if they end up missing goals etc having paid something close to full matchday prices (remains to be seen whether the streams will be more reliable this time around, particularly if fewer people are watching it that way than when games were behind closed doors).
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Post by Blockhead on Dec 6, 2022 9:25:48 GMT
Any charge for streaming at our level should cost more than it does to actually attend the match itself. This way it still encourages people in the area to attend games rather than sit at home and watch it on some live stream. Also if it ever did come down as far as this league, I'd like to think the money being taken by the NL will be used to make sure every club is provided with professional equipment to produce a first class stream worthy of the money paid to watch it, as some of those on offer during the covid times were awful Why should exiles pay more? So you're expecting people to make a round trip from, Inverness for example because it is cheaper for them to attend than it is to go the game? Or the elderly in the dead of winter. Chester has always been the same. The hardcore 1500 will always go. When we do well, the fair weathers turn up. I full expect our crowds to be up to at least 3500 come the end of the season. If we're in the same position. Streaming should be an alternative to going the game. Makes life easier for some people. Money will still come in. There's no travel costs involved for streaming, so it's still comparatively cheaper.
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Post by avfo on Dec 8, 2022 16:02:54 GMT
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Streaming
Dec 8, 2022 20:33:40 GMT
via mobile
Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Dec 8, 2022 20:33:40 GMT
Be useful for Hereford as working.
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Post by avfo on Dec 8, 2022 20:54:46 GMT
Be useful for Hereford as working.
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Streaming
Dec 8, 2022 20:59:48 GMT
via mobile
Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Dec 8, 2022 20:59:48 GMT
Never mind. Don't agree with it anyway (😬)
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Post by Curva Nord on Dec 8, 2022 21:12:21 GMT
So more exposure, better highlights and more money going to the league, but lets not have it because Neil Potter doesn't like it
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Post by blaconblues on Dec 8, 2022 21:32:13 GMT
So more exposure, better highlights and more money going to the league, but lets not have it because Neil Potter doesn't like it That's, arguably, not correct though given how it could detract away fans from visiting other grounds and instead paying a much smaller fee. Of that smaller fee, the home team could potentially receive a considerably lesser amount and thus lose out on much required funds. At our level, fans through the gate is far more important than at any other level (imo). Not only the entrance fee, but other revenue such as kiosk sales, programme and raffle sales etc which will be missed out on.
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Post by Curva Nord on Dec 8, 2022 21:58:49 GMT
What travelling fans? We get a handful every game. If 100 away fans buy a stream over 20-30 that turn up surely that is better? The fans that want to goto games, always will do.
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Post by blaconblues on Dec 8, 2022 22:17:29 GMT
What travelling fans? We get a handful every game. If 100 away fans buy a stream over 20-30 that turn up surely that is better? The fans that want to goto games, always will do. It's not all about us.
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Post by kevlar on Dec 9, 2022 7:59:42 GMT
Hi all
As an exile myself abroad, my 2 cents (euros?) worth.
I have very little chance to attend games at all these days, however I tune in via seals live religiously.
The club doesn’t benefit at all from what I can tell from my continued support. I then have to wait a couple days for someone to upload a link to the highlights.
I am the target audience for the streaming service and the club will benefit, I bet their are hundreds like me scattered around the world
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Dec 9, 2022 8:12:21 GMT
Well you’re correct in saying you’re the target audience in a sense, because it’s the American market the Goats want that has sparked all this.
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Post by Churton Blue on Dec 9, 2022 8:49:08 GMT
Well you’re correct in saying you’re the target audience in a sense, because it’s the American market the Goats want that has sparked all this. A number of clubs asked the National League to look at streaming after crowds returned to grounds after the pandemic. The National League were developing a central platform proposal long before the intervention of Hollywood FC. Part of the thinking was to align the National League to the EFL who have streaming for their clubs.
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Post by Curva Nord on Dec 9, 2022 11:52:58 GMT
Hi all As an exile myself abroad, my 2 cents (euros?) worth. I have very little chance to attend games at all these days, however I tune in via seals live religiously. The club doesn’t benefit at all from what I can tell from my continued support. I then have to wait a couple days for someone to upload a link to the highlights. I am the target audience for the streaming service and the club will benefit, I bet their are hundreds like me scattered around the world People don't want people like you not streaming because they think it will stop Bastard Woods four away fans turning up.
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Post by Churton Blue on Dec 9, 2022 15:02:46 GMT
Hi all As an exile myself abroad, my 2 cents (euros?) worth. I have very little chance to attend games at all these days, however I tune in via seals live religiously. The club doesn’t benefit at all from what I can tell from my continued support. I then have to wait a couple days for someone to upload a link to the highlights. I am the target audience for the streaming service and the club will benefit, I bet their are hundreds like me scattered around the world There will be a lot of exile fans living abroad and in the UK. It would appear sensible to find out if there is an audience out there that either can’t or won’t attend a live match. Let’s face it there are thousands of armchair Man Utd, Liverpool and Everton fans in Chester who never set foot in the Deva.
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Post by devachatter on Dec 9, 2022 17:25:11 GMT
A lot of IPTV servers will be running a trial for the National League games tomorrow
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Post by avfo on Jan 15, 2023 20:48:30 GMT
'There have been no official figures released by the National League but unofficially I understand that there has been income generated of around £200,000 for the first six games, which is quite impressive. There was a discounted introductory rate of £4.75 a game for the first two games so it is a pure guess as to how many streams per game that equates to. I understand that international take-up has not been as big as perhaps predicted, but I understand that Wrexham have accounted for around 80pc of all streams which, if confirmed, could generate the club around £100,000 in revenue.' www.edp24.co.uk/sport/23249672.stephen-cleeve-putting-national-league-streaming-deals-scrutiny/
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Post by avfo on Feb 3, 2023 21:13:16 GMT
From BPA OWS - 'At January’s EGM meeting of the National League we were advised that a NLN game would be tested for streaming very soon. The NL Premier League has already got streaming under way on Boxing Day. Whilst we won’t be able to stream matches between 3pm and 5pm on Saturdays due to old legislation from decades ago, all other kick-off times would be available for streaming. EFL analysis apparently suggests that gates are not affected adversely by streaming. It will be important to encourage participation in streaming through the NL website. Whilst about 3% of streamers are international, that runs to over 50 countries already. 85% of streamers are UK based and the next largest audience are in North America. The league should cover the cost of the camera, the signal and a camera operator. A clubhouse license to show games will cost £180 per match and NL profits from streaming will be shared monthly or quarterly with clubs. Amongst other issues discussed, which hopefully won’t be part of Horsfall life: Concern was raised by the FA and NL about the increased crowd problems with pyrotechnics, discriminatory abuse, be that racial, homophobic or misogynistic and obscene chants. Another interesting nugget was that in League 2 the ball was in play on average for just under 50 minutes, which led to concerns raised about the increasing level of time-wasting in games.' Telford Fined £6,000 - www.telfordunited.com/news/club-statement-7/
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Post by Curva Nord on Feb 3, 2023 22:56:31 GMT
From BPA OWS - 'At January’s EGM meeting of the National League we were advised that a NLN game would be tested for streaming very soon. The NL Premier League has already got streaming under way on Boxing Day. Whilst we won’t be able to stream matches between 3pm and 5pm on Saturdays due to old legislation from decades ago, all other kick-off times would be available for streaming. EFL analysis apparently suggests that gates are not affected adversely by streaming. It will be important to encourage participation in streaming through the NL website. Whilst about 3% of streamers are international, that runs to over 50 countries already. 85% of streamers are UK based and the next largest audience are in North America. The league should cover the cost of the camera, the signal and a camera operator. A clubhouse license to show games will cost £180 per match and NL profits from streaming will be shared monthly or quarterly with clubs. Amongst other issues discussed, which hopefully won’t be part of Horsfall life: Concern was raised by the FA and NL about the increased crowd problems with pyrotechnics, discriminatory abuse, be that racial, homophobic or misogynistic and obscene chants. Another interesting nugget was that in League 2 the ball was in play on average for just under 50 minutes, which led to concerns raised about the increasing level of time-wasting in games.'Telford Fined £6,000 - www.telfordunited.com/news/club-statement-7/Put the game on a fucking stop clock. Can't waste time then, and you get a full 90 minutes
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Post by Lobster on Feb 3, 2023 23:08:10 GMT
From BPA OWS - 'At January’s EGM meeting of the National League we were advised that a NLN game would be tested for streaming very soon. The NL Premier League has already got streaming under way on Boxing Day. Whilst we won’t be able to stream matches between 3pm and 5pm on Saturdays due to old legislation from decades ago, all other kick-off times would be available for streaming. EFL analysis apparently suggests that gates are not affected adversely by streaming. It will be important to encourage participation in streaming through the NL website. Whilst about 3% of streamers are international, that runs to over 50 countries already. 85% of streamers are UK based and the next largest audience are in North America. The league should cover the cost of the camera, the signal and a camera operator. A clubhouse license to show games will cost £180 per match and NL profits from streaming will be shared monthly or quarterly with clubs. Amongst other issues discussed, which hopefully won’t be part of Horsfall life: Concern was raised by the FA and NL about the increased crowd problems with pyrotechnics, discriminatory abuse, be that racial, homophobic or misogynistic and obscene chants. Another interesting nugget was that in League 2 the ball was in play on average for just under 50 minutes, which led to concerns raised about the increasing level of time-wasting in games.'Telford Fined £6,000 - www.telfordunited.com/news/club-statement-7/Put the game on a fucking stop clock. Can't waste time then, and you get a full 90 minutes And be at the ground until 6pm? It's as much about breaking up momentum and frustrating the other team as using up time. A better solution would be some sort of timer when the ball's out of play. If you take too long with a throw-in, it goes the other way. If the keeper holds onto the ball for too long, it's an indirect free kick to the other team. Never really understood why the six second rule was phased out myself.
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Post by Curva Nord on Feb 4, 2023 9:19:37 GMT
That will take time too, as on the swap of play, teams will obstruct, kick away the ball, boot off at the ref.
Well either stick game on a stop clock. Time wasters get booked early doors or we just shut up and accept it.
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