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Post by loskasleftfoot on Nov 16, 2022 12:56:09 GMT
Hasn't gone down at all well with the players calling the sacking scandellous and Guy Mowbray requesting a refund of his fighting fund donation.
Seemingly another Chairman with a big ego.
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Post by Lobster on Nov 16, 2022 13:03:08 GMT
Seems ludicrous. He's taken them from bottom half in the NLN to comfortably mid-table a division higher.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 16, 2022 13:20:32 GMT
Apparently Askey given the boot cause he wanted to sign two more players on loan.
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Post by avfo on Nov 16, 2022 14:46:32 GMT
Hasn't gone down at all well with the players calling the sacking scandellous and Guy Mowbray requesting a refund of his fighting fund donation. Seemingly another Chairmen with a big ego. He wanted a lapdog but found he'd inherited a pitbull.
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Post by Curva Nord on Nov 16, 2022 16:17:28 GMT
I think there should be a ruling once you sign a manger they have to stay for the duration of their contract.
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Post by RonD on Nov 16, 2022 18:15:30 GMT
Mike Williamson and Jonathan Greening among the favourites to go in.
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Post by Lobster on Nov 16, 2022 18:40:10 GMT
I think there should be a ruling once you sign a manger they have to stay for the duration of their contract. I'd definitely support some sort of minimum managerial term. Any club sacking more than one manager a season has problems that go beyond the manager.
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Post by utb on Nov 16, 2022 19:39:01 GMT
If McIntyre got us promoted and 12th place in the National League six points off the play-offs by this time next year, we'd be calling for him to get freedom of the city! York's response is to sack John Askey. Honestly, who'd be a manager?
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Nov 16, 2022 19:53:19 GMT
I'd read somewhere it was because he spoke to Fylde?
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Post by Lobster on Nov 16, 2022 19:54:25 GMT
If McIntyre got us promoted and 12th place in the National League six points off the play-offs by this time next year, we'd be calling for him to get freedom of the city! York's response is to sack John Askey. Honestly, who'd be a manager? Given he'll be paid off and will probably land another job in no time, he's probably not that bothered. But it's still not right and shows how casually many chairmen will waste large sums of money.
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Post by avfo on Nov 16, 2022 20:06:33 GMT
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Post by utb on Nov 16, 2022 20:20:53 GMT
Sad read that, he'll get fixed up in no time I'm sure. Bit hypocritical to say this as it would mean another manager losing their job, but Oldham could do a lot worse than pot Unsworth and get Askey in to sort them out, if they can afford it.
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Post by miltongraham on Nov 16, 2022 21:13:04 GMT
First-team coach Kingsley James has turned down the approach to become interim manager, an appointment which is set to come from the club’s existing staff, Askey has said.
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Post by Harry Lime on Nov 17, 2022 7:40:42 GMT
I think there should be a ruling once you sign a manger they have to stay for the duration of their contract. Not sure about that. A poor manager can do a lot of damage to a football club over a relatively short time. Once you can see it happening it's often best to cut your losses before it gets worse. Surprised in Askey's case though. Maybe he wanted to keep bringing in more players, which increases the wage bill every time. Maybe cos he'd signed some duffers. A bit like Burr was with us. He once said at a meeting that it was his job to keep asking for more money and more players, and the chairman's job to say no. Didn't quite seem to realise the fans owned club aspect. I suppose it depends on how you ask.
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Post by avfo on Nov 17, 2022 11:40:31 GMT
Mike Williamson and Jonathan Greening among the favourites to go in.
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Post by Curva Nord on Nov 17, 2022 12:44:25 GMT
I think there should be a ruling once you sign a manger they have to stay for the duration of their contract. Not sure about that. A poor manager can do a lot of damage to a football club over a relatively short time. Once you can see it happening it's often best to cut your losses before it gets worse. Surprised in Askey's case though. Maybe he wanted to keep bringing in more players, which increases the wage bill every time. Maybe cos he'd signed some duffers. A bit like Burr was with us. He once said at a meeting that it was his job to keep asking for more money and more players, and the chairman's job to say no. Didn't quite seem to realise the fans owned club aspect. I suppose it depends on how you ask. Don't hire him then, do your due diligence. Best way would be to ask your players, they all talk and if their is a manager the player doesn't like at a club, they won't sign there.
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Post by Arthur's Carpet slipper on Nov 17, 2022 23:10:58 GMT
Reading Askey version of events on the BBC web site today it really highlights the peril a single influential investor can have. Also interesting to see the Scarborough manager tweeting why he turned down an approach. It may be frustrating and difficult at times under fan ownership but at least we are not subject anymore to this damaging culture
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Post by avfo on Nov 18, 2022 23:42:59 GMT
Statement issue by York City Supporters Trust (Brown and Smith are also board members of the football club, Brown in an interview appeared to express support for Hendersons decision to sack Askey)
'To avoid any perceived conflict of interest, this statement has been drafted by Trust board members independently of those who also sit on the club board. All Supporters’ Trust board members, including Mike Brown and Alastair Smith have had the opportunity to review and comment on the statement.
John Askey’s Departure The last three days have been difficult days in the recent history of York City Football Club and the Supporters’ Trust; for that we are sorry. Mistakes have been made, they will be learned from and, to our best efforts, they will never be repeated.
Your Supporters’ Trust board were shocked and dismayed to learn of John Askey’s departure on Wednesday morning from BBC Radio York. John Askey united our fanbase leading our club back to the National League and gave pride back to supporters. For that we will be eternally grateful.
Dismayed at the initial decision, we were then disappointed throughout the day with the manner in which John Askey’s dismissal was handled and communicated. Such a major decision affecting both John and the football club should have been handled better by all involved.
On Thursday, we the Supporters’ Trust board held a meeting with our representatives from the Football Club board solely to discuss the events that led to John Askey leaving the football club and how it was handled. Between the briefing received from Club board members, and having listened to John Askey on the radio the previous evening, the Supporters’ Trust board recognise that the relationship between both parties had reached breaking point.
Whilst the Supporters’ Trust are 49% shareholders, all employment matters are strictly managed by the football club as required by law. There is no legal scope for the Trust board to be consulted or to intervene on confidential employment matters.
The role of the Supporters’ Trust board is to guide and scrutinise the actions of the Football Club board representing fans at the highest level of the Club. On the matter of John Askey’s dismissal, we have presented the Club Board with considerable feedback regarding the events that led to a breakdown in relationships, the lack of earlier interventions, and the overall handling of John’s dismissal. Our feedback reflected the depth of fan opinion. However, the Trust board recognise that the action taken to relieve John of his duties were the culmination of numerous factors that had led to an irretrievable situation.
While we deeply regret the situation, it is important for the good of the club to move forward and deal with the challenges ahead.
Going forward the Supporters’ Trust board have requested significantly more detailed updates from its representatives on the Football Club board. These updates, blended with fan opinion, will be used to provide significant recommendations, guidance and oversight into the goals and priorities for the Football Club. Lessons must be learnt; new policies and procedures must be put in place to avoid similar situations arising in the future.
This situation has reinforced the Supporters’ Trust board’s need to modernise the way in which we represent our members and draw clear lines of responsibility between us and the Football Club. In the coming months, whilst working alongside the Football Club and Football Supporters Association, we will be looking to update our own governance and procedures to ensure that now, and in the future, we remain best placed to represent the fans of York City Football Club.
We are sorry, we will do better.
With this statement in mind, we are pausing our Boost the Budget campaign. All monies received will remain under Supporters’ Trust control and will only ever be released to enhance the playing budget of the Football Club.'
Seems that this version of the 51/49% split isn't working as well as hoped. Mr Henderson has recently stated his intent to increase the number of directors (currently 3, although Brown is due to step down next year), to 4 and has indicated that the new member of the club's board will be his wife - “I’m going to put her on the board because she’s fantastic, she works her socks off and she knows exactly what she’s talking about and ran the other businesses with me."
“It’s a team effort and you need a good team around you in order to succeed. If you don’t have a good team, you’re struggling"
Staying with the team theme, Henderson has now taken to twitter to offer a kind of (non) 'apology,' he is sorry for the way information has been handled, as a team mistakes have been made, get behind the players etc- possibly in an attempt to ward of the abuse he and the board are likely to receive at tomorrows match.
Judging by the replies to his tweet, it doesn't seem to have had the desired effect.
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Post by archwhopper on Nov 19, 2022 0:51:29 GMT
Who actually gives a shiny shite about york ? Bollocks to them
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Post by Blockhead on Nov 19, 2022 1:13:58 GMT
It's almost like fan ownership works...
The York supporters' trust could have had control of their club and instead decided to let this charlatan have the majority.
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Post by Lobster on Nov 19, 2022 10:45:09 GMT
Staying with the team theme, Henderson has now taken to twitter to offer a kind of (non) 'apology,' he is sorry for the way information has been handled, as a team mistakes have been made, get behind the players etc- possibly in an attempt to ward of the abuse he and the board are likely to receive at tomorrows match. Judging by the replies to his tweet, it doesn't seem to have had the desired effect. What a pathetic tweet, doesn't say anything. It's just "I'd better say something, hadn't I?"
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Post by Lobster on Nov 19, 2022 10:51:31 GMT
Not sure about that. A poor manager can do a lot of damage to a football club over a relatively short time. Once you can see it happening it's often best to cut your losses before it gets worse. Surprised in Askey's case though. Maybe he wanted to keep bringing in more players, which increases the wage bill every time. Maybe cos he'd signed some duffers. A bit like Burr was with us. He once said at a meeting that it was his job to keep asking for more money and more players, and the chairman's job to say no. Didn't quite seem to realise the fans owned club aspect. I suppose it depends on how you ask. Don't hire him then, do your due diligence. Best way would be to ask your players, they all talk and if their is a manager the player doesn't like at a club, they won't sign there. I think all you'd get if you had to give managers the duration of their contact is all clubs giving managers six- or even three-month contracts. Managers probably don't care too much about the current attitude to sackings because they get a decent payoff and are often quickly in a new job. From the point of view of a fan who puts money into their club though, it's a shocking waste. Some sort of rule where you can't dismiss more than one manager a season might be good, particular aimed at clubs like Watford who seem to sack someone every time they want a bit of "new manager bounce".
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Post by avfo on Dec 13, 2022 22:48:41 GMT
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Post by avfo on Feb 8, 2023 19:08:07 GMT
01/02/2023, Extract from statement issued by YCFC following the latest protests against new owner Glenn Henderson -
'Unfortunately in recent weeks there have been several incidents in the hospitality area of the LNER Azuma Stand, so we feel it is important to remind supporters that the hospitality areas of the LNER Community Stadium are subject to the same protocol as the rest of the stadium, and going forward, any foul or abusive language and behaviour will be dealt with as strongly as it would in any other stand, with eviction from the ground.
To ensure that the focus of supporters remains towards supporting the team on the pitch, Club Chairman, Glen Henderson, has chosen not to attend York City matches for the time being. The club respects his decision not to attend in order to ensure the best playing atmosphere for the team.
We would like to thank our supporters for your commitment to the club and encourage you to get behind the Manager and his team throughout the upcoming matches.'
08/02/2023
'York City FC can confirm that first-team manager David Webb has been relieved of his duties with immediate effect. We would like to thank David for his efforts over the last few months and wish him all the best for the future.
The club has commenced its search for a new manager, and we will bring further communication on who will take interim charge in due course.'
Webb's tenure as manager was the shortest in the football clubs history.
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Post by Lobster on Feb 8, 2023 23:04:55 GMT
What an idiot. The arrogance of some club chairman never ceases to amaze me.
He sacks a proven and highly regarded manager in Askey, replaces him with someone nobody's heard of with no first team experience, results go to shit and he sacks him as well two months later.
Who else but himself does he think is responsible for this? On what basis does he think his decision making is suitable for the club?
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Post by cameandabel on Apr 1, 2023 8:19:52 GMT
Looks like a right mess there now, with the Supporters’ Trust stepping in to help ensure all staff get paid but encountering problems in trying to complete a takeover deal for the club. www.ycst.org.uk/trust-pay-club-payroll/
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Post by Lobster on Apr 1, 2023 8:24:33 GMT
Didn't their supporters' trust buy the club in the summer but then immediately sell it to this Henderson character?
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Apr 1, 2023 9:47:10 GMT
Yes.
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Post by devachatter on Apr 1, 2023 10:08:34 GMT
Wouldn't surprise me if York drop out of the National League
Dorking, Gateshead, Yeovil all having games in hand over them
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Post by agl on Apr 1, 2023 17:28:09 GMT
So, could have Scunthorpe and York in NLN next season. Good reason to go up.
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