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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Apr 23, 2023 6:18:50 GMT
Imagine - they finally get out the Conference after 15 years (and it only took multi-millionaire owners paying Championship wages for League One players… who knew!) and the first thing you do is go on a Chester FC messageboard.
Proof we will forever be living in their heads no matter where they end up. Love it.
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Post by vandycandy on Apr 23, 2023 7:12:54 GMT
Imagine - they finally get out the Conference after 15 years (and it only took multi-millionaire owners paying Championship wages for League One players… who knew!) and the first thing you do is go on a Chester FC messageboard. Proof we will forever be living in their heads no matter where they end up. Love it. They will forever be obsessed with us. Sad little freaks the lot of them.  |
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Post by cameandabel on Apr 23, 2023 8:11:07 GMT
The media hype surrounding them is ridiculously OTT and I can honestly say I’d think that if it was any other club in that position, not just our traditional rivals. Yes it’s a big deal going back up to the Football League, but I bet they wouldn’t have had even a quarter as much publicity or attention if they’d done so when owned by the WST (which they nearly did on more than one occasion).
Meanwhile, Rochdale drop out of the Football League after more than 100 years and you’d have to look hard in the media to find any mention of it…
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Post by rossettred on Apr 23, 2023 11:14:09 GMT
Wrexham Council in a private confidential meeting have voted to give 17 million pounds of UK taxpayer money to Hollywood FC. The money was given to the Council by the Welsh Government to fund the Eastern Part of the Wrexham Gateway Project. The money was intended for transport infrastructure connected to Wrexham Station and the local bus network. The Council Executive Board has diverted this money to pay for a new stand at the Racecourse Ground. The Welsh Government does have tax raising powers but does not use them and all their money comes from general taxation by means of a block grant from the UK Government. So we are all going to fund a new stand for the Hollywood duo. Thanks mate - much appreciated  |
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Post by Churton Blue on Apr 23, 2023 11:58:57 GMT
Thanks mate - much appreciated Much rather the NHS was funded properly in Wrexham. My elderly mother lives in Wrexham as do my parents in law who are in their mid seventies. Last year my Auntie waited six hours for an ambulance and sadly died before she got to Wrexham hospital. My father received very poor treatment when he died in the same hospital. No point in complaining as you get nowhere and it does not bring them back. Anyway I am sure your Hollywood owners will make better use of the 17 million of tax payer money the Council are bunging their way ? |
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Post by apburke on Apr 23, 2023 12:08:18 GMT
Thanks mate - much appreciated Don't mention it. We taxpayers are used to it by now after years of public money being funnelled into Wrexham FC via the university, Welsh government gifts and now it appears the UK government. We had hoped that once you had found your millionaire carers (or, more typically, they found you) some of the burden might be lifted, but it seems not. Still, we can live in hope that at some stage the day will come when you can stand on your own two feet. Like certain other clubs I could mention. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2023 12:15:45 GMT
Thanks mate - much appreciated Don't mention it. We taxpayers are used to it by now after years of public money being funnelled into Wrexham FC via the university, Welsh government gifts and now it appears the UK government. We had hoped that once you had found your millionaire carers (or, more typically, they found you) some of the burden might be lifted, but it seems not. Still, we can live in hope that at some stage the day will come when you can stand on your own two feet. Like certain other clubs I could mention. The owners are frauds. Roll out any terminally ill fan for a photo op or documentary clip, donate the odd £1,000 to a Wrexham charity (which is probably like a £1 for us) and roll the club in debt. Can’t wait til they realise these 2 muppets don’t have the money to go much further and they’ll go bust and reform in the Cymru Alliance, back in front of their usual crowds of 2,000. Won’t say any more on the matter. Whole town is full of sex offenders anyway. |
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Post by Matt on Apr 23, 2023 12:22:12 GMT
The media hype surrounding them is ridiculously OTT and I can honestly say I’d think that if it was any other club in that position, not just our traditional rivals. Yes it’s a big deal going back up to the Football League, but I bet they wouldn’t have had even a quarter as much publicity or attention if they’d done so when owned by the WST (which they nearly did on more than one occasion). Meanwhile, Rochdale drop out of the Football League after more than 100 years and you’d have to look hard in the media to find any mention of it… It's literally just down to the owners. Only BBC Wales bothered posting about them before this. |
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Post by Curva Nord on Apr 23, 2023 13:24:02 GMT
Don't mention it. We taxpayers are used to it by now after years of public money being funnelled into Wrexham FC via the university, Welsh government gifts and now it appears the UK government. We had hoped that once you had found your millionaire carers (or, more typically, they found you) some of the burden might be lifted, but it seems not. Still, we can live in hope that at some stage the day will come when you can stand on your own two feet. Like certain other clubs I could mention. The owners are frauds. Roll out any terminally ill fan for a photo op or documentary clip, donate the odd £1,000 to a Wrexham charity (which is probably like a £1 for us) and roll the club in debt. Can’t wait til they realise these 2 muppets don’t have the money to go much further and they’ll go bust and reform in the Cymru Alliance, back in front of their usual crowds of 2,000. Won’t say any more on the matter. Whole town is full of sex offenders anyway. They probably have the money to put them into Division 1,The Championship, what ever you want to call it. I think RR used this as a trial run for his next venture though. Which when it goes though, I don't think he'll be in Wrexham as much |
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Post by Churton Blue on Apr 23, 2023 14:28:38 GMT
Reynolds does have enough money to get them in to the Championship but prefers to lend the club millions at 7% interest and exploit gullible politicians who are falling over themselves to be associated with a film star.
The local politicians are villains as the money is not theirs to give without proper accountability. The Welsh Government are villains as they were trying to buy votes in north east Wales when they offered 25 million for the transport infrastructure and now the Council have pulled a fast one and diverted 17 million of the money to Hollywood FC.
The Welsh Government have the power to stop this and it will be interesting to see what they do. Anybody who lives in Wales should make a polite complaint to their local MS.
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Post by wxmred on Apr 23, 2023 16:32:18 GMT
The owners are frauds. Roll out any terminally ill fan for a photo op or documentary clip, donate the odd £1,000 to a Wrexham charity (which is probably like a £1 for us) and roll the club in debt. Can’t wait til they realise these 2 muppets don’t have the money to go much further and they’ll go bust and reform in the Cymru Alliance, back in front of their usual crowds of 2,000. Won’t say any more on the matter. Whole town is full of sex offenders anyway. They probably have the money to put them into Division 1,The Championship, what ever you want to call it. I think RR used this as a trial run for his next venture though. Which when it goes though, I don't think he'll be in Wrexham as much Wow, And I came on here to wish you luck for the playoffs. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2023 16:41:37 GMT
They probably have the money to put them into Division 1,The Championship, what ever you want to call it. I think RR used this as a trial run for his next venture though. Which when it goes though, I don't think he'll be in Wrexham as much Wow, And I came on here to wish you luck for the playoffs. Don’t want your luck. Just want my share of the £25 million of taxpayers money back you’ve scammed for building that stupid fucking stand. |
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Post by thetheremin on Apr 23, 2023 17:17:47 GMT
The fact that the money is going in as loans and the club is being charged 7% interest on those loans should be setting some off some alarm bells amongst fans.
It’s a business transaction.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Apr 23, 2023 21:58:19 GMT
The fact that the money is going in as loans and the club is being charged 7% interest on those loans should be setting some off some alarm bells amongst fans. It’s a business transaction. Should be aye, but they don’t care about end game do they? I’ve even had one Goat I know tell me “it’s worth it” for the short-term success and getting back in the league. This is when I asked him if he’s concerned about this £3.7m and rising LOAN with interest on top. The potential loss of their club in mountains of debt further down the line is “worth it” for finally getting out of non-league apparently. Each to their own but I wouldn’t be of that disposition if it was us. |
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Post by thetheremin on Apr 23, 2023 22:18:07 GMT
The fact that the money is going in as loans and the club is being charged 7% interest on those loans should be setting some off some alarm bells amongst fans. It’s a business transaction. Should be aye, but they don’t care about end game do they? I’ve even had one Goat I know tell me “it’s worth it” for the short-term success and getting back in the league. This is when I asked him if he’s concerned about this £3.7m and rising LOAN with interest on top. The potential loss of their club in mountains of debt further down the line is “worth it” for finally getting out of non-league apparently. Each to their own but I wouldn’t be of that disposition if it was us. It’s understandable that fans want success but they’re in a position where the business is running unsustainably. Reynolds could probably afford to bankroll them all the way to the championship using his personal wealth without the need for any loans into the club, or at least without charging interest on the loans. That’s what I don’t get. Why are the loans repayable and why are they extracting interest. |
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Post by Si on Apr 24, 2023 15:48:22 GMT
I don't blame Wrexham fans for enjoying the ride, we'd all be the same. However, I'm not envious of it all as it's just a circus of a club these days. You had the cycling podcast goalkeeper who couldn't even do a post match interview without Ryan and the cameras doing some weird staged intervention. The media fawning over them is grating, but in all honestly they'll be rising through the levels and the days where we play them will be long gone so I'm not that arsed with how they get on any more. There'll be plenty of the newer fans they've gained absolutely loving life, but I bet that there will come a point where the older fans don't recognise their club anymore. I'm not saying they'll be yearning to going back to play Eastleigh away etc, but Wrexham FC is already a far cry from what it was a couple of years back and honestly if it was my club I'd be having those kind of thoughts where I'd have rather had some modest progression rather than being submission to the Deadpool vanity project and the talk all being about which actor is going to turn up in the turf today rather than the actual football.
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Post by Churton Blue on Apr 25, 2023 17:29:11 GMT
Should be aye, but they don’t care about end game do they? I’ve even had one Goat I know tell me “it’s worth it” for the short-term success and getting back in the league. This is when I asked him if he’s concerned about this £3.7m and rising LOAN with interest on top. The potential loss of their club in mountains of debt further down the line is “worth it” for finally getting out of non-league apparently. Each to their own but I wouldn’t be of that disposition if it was us. It’s understandable that fans want success but they’re in a position where the business is running unsustainably. Reynolds could probably afford to bankroll them all the way to the championship using his personal wealth without the need for any loans into the club, or at least without charging interest on the loans. That’s what I don’t get. Why are the loans repayable and why are they extracting interest. Good question and it is very odd as is the whole tax payer funding issue. Been made aware that other Council and Government funding for football stadiums has been cited to defend the Wrexham Gateway scheme Man City and Hull City have benefitted from Council funding but their stadiums are Council owned and rented back. West Ham rent their Government funded stadium. The new stand at Hollywood FC will be privately owned so cannot be compared to the above. Even Wrexham.com asked the Council if it was appropriate to give away tax payer money to a private enterprise. It remains to be seen if Wrexham Council and Hollywood FC can get away with two American business men who are worth hundreds of millions receiving 17 million of tax payer money. This is fundamentally about the misuse of public funds not football rivalry. Very hard to understand how anybody can defend it in the current economic climate. |
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Post by welshrover on Apr 25, 2023 21:20:45 GMT
Don't wish to get into a "right or wrong" argument re Wrexham's stand but the much quoted "misuse of taxpayer funds" goes on every day in every walk of life.
The bloke who lives up the road from me who is allegedly disabled spends my taxes down the pub seven nights a week.
There is right and wrong but it appears we live in a country now where if you can get away with it, crack on, be you a mega rich Canadian (not American) or just ordinary Joe from down the road.
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Post by Churton Blue on Apr 25, 2023 22:15:17 GMT
Don't wish to get into a "right or wrong" argument re Wrexham's stand but the much quoted "misuse of taxpayer funds" goes on every day in every walk of life. The bloke who lives up the road from me who is allegedly disabled spends my taxes down the pub seven nights a week. There is right and wrong but it appears we live in a country now where if you can get away with it, crack on, be you a mega rich Canadian (not American) or just ordinary Joe from down the road. Afraid I cannot agree with your comparison of the two issues. Ryan, who took out American citizenship in 2018, and Rob are merely extras. Wrexham Council have become a law unto themselves on a number issues. For instance they have just voted against their own Local Development Plan. They are the only Council in Wales not to have one. Even some Wrexham Councillors are talking in public about maladministration and illegality in relation to this. The bigger picture is do the Welsh Government have the courage to bring them into line and spend the 17 million on what is what intended for. The situation is made worse when the meeting was confidential and there is no public record of what happened. At least two Councillors of the ten who made the decision are season ticket holders and a third is seen regularly at matches. One correctly records this in the register of interests whilst two do not. In Local Government decision making such things are really important to uphold the integrity of the process. Because the meeting was held in private nobody has any idea if proper procedures were followed in regard to this or other matters. The Welsh Government know what the rights and wrongs are and unfortunately, given their track record on some local matters, tax payers have to put their faith in them to do the right thing and upset Ryan and Rob who have almost sainthood status at the moment. You could almost make a film or documentary about it ! |
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Post by welshrover on Apr 25, 2023 22:49:41 GMT
Don't wish to get into a "right or wrong" argument re Wrexham's stand but the much quoted "misuse of taxpayer funds" goes on every day in every walk of life. The bloke who lives up the road from me who is allegedly disabled spends my taxes down the pub seven nights a week. There is right and wrong but it appears we live in a country now where if you can get away with it, crack on, be you a mega rich Canadian (not American) or just ordinary Joe from down the road. Afraid I cannot agree with your comparison of the two issues. Ryan, who took out American citizenship in 2018, and Rob are merely extras. Wrexham Council have become a law unto themselves on a number issues. For instance they have just voted against their own Local Development Plan. They are the only Council in Wales not to have one. Even some Wrexham Councillors are talking in public about maladministration and illegality in relation to this. The bigger picture is do the Welsh Government have the courage to bring them into line and spend the 17 million on what is what intended for. The situation is made worse when the meeting was confidential and there is no public record of what happened. At least two Councillors of the ten who made the decision are season ticket holders and a third is seen regularly at matches. One correctly records this in the register of interests whilst two do not. In Local Government decision making such things are really important to uphold the integrity of the process. Because the meeting was held in private nobody has any idea if proper procedures were followed in regard to this or other matters. The Welsh Government know what the rights and wrongs are and unfortunately, given their track record on some local matters, tax payers have to put their faith in them to do the right thing and upset Ryan and Rob who have almost sainthood status at the moment. You could almost make a film or documentary about it ! And you have every right to disagree Churton, my point was everybody and his brother seems to be in the take nowadays and getting away with it, from false COVID loans to PPE to benefits claiments. I have got to the point where I say "what is the point in getting angry anymore" Steal a load of money, don't go to prison because they are full and pay back £1 a week. Country is f----d be it the Welsh or English government. |
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Post by welshrover on Apr 25, 2023 22:53:42 GMT
Apologies to all for going off on a rant in my last post.
Just sick to death of seemingly being the only person in Britain who ain't getting something for nothing.
Apologies.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Apr 26, 2023 5:36:16 GMT
Don't wish to get into a "right or wrong" argument re Wrexham's stand but the much quoted "misuse of taxpayer funds" goes on every day in every walk of life. The bloke who lives up the road from me who is allegedly disabled spends my taxes down the pub seven nights a week. There is right and wrong but it appears we live in a country now where if you can get away with it, crack on, be you a mega rich Canadian (not American) or just ordinary Joe from down the road. Are disabled people not allowed to drink alcohol or am I missing something? The fact that you’re punching down, not up, means the government have got you right where they want you. |
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Post by Moltisanti on Apr 26, 2023 5:42:51 GMT
Afraid I cannot agree with your comparison of the two issues. Ryan, who took out American citizenship in 2018, and Rob are merely extras. Wrexham Council have become a law unto themselves on a number issues. For instance they have just voted against their own Local Development Plan. They are the only Council in Wales not to have one. Even some Wrexham Councillors are talking in public about maladministration and illegality in relation to this. The bigger picture is do the Welsh Government have the courage to bring them into line and spend the 17 million on what is what intended for. The situation is made worse when the meeting was confidential and there is no public record of what happened. At least two Councillors of the ten who made the decision are season ticket holders and a third is seen regularly at matches. One correctly records this in the register of interests whilst two do not. In Local Government decision making such things are really important to uphold the integrity of the process. Because the meeting was held in private nobody has any idea if proper procedures were followed in regard to this or other matters. The Welsh Government know what the rights and wrongs are and unfortunately, given their track record on some local matters, tax payers have to put their faith in them to do the right thing and upset Ryan and Rob who have almost sainthood status at the moment. You could almost make a film or documentary about it ! And you have every right to disagree Churton, my point was everybody and his brother seems to be in the take nowadays and getting away with it, from false COVID loans to PPE to benefits claiments. I have got to the point where I say "what is the point in getting angry anymore" Steal a load of money, don't go to prison because they are full and pay back £1 a week. Country is f----d be it the Welsh or English government. Conservative voter. 100% I’d be more concerned about the scumbags running the country if I were you. They despise you. |
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Post by Moltisanti on Apr 26, 2023 5:43:10 GMT
Don't wish to get into a "right or wrong" argument re Wrexham's stand but the much quoted "misuse of taxpayer funds" goes on every day in every walk of life. The bloke who lives up the road from me who is allegedly disabled spends my taxes down the pub seven nights a week. There is right and wrong but it appears we live in a country now where if you can get away with it, crack on, be you a mega rich Canadian (not American) or just ordinary Joe from down the road. Are disabled people not allowed to drink alcohol or am I missing something? The fact that you’re punching down, not up, means the government have got you right where they want you. This |
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Post by welshrover on Apr 26, 2023 7:55:36 GMT
And you have every right to disagree Churton, my point was everybody and his brother seems to be in the take nowadays and getting away with it, from false COVID loans to PPE to benefits claiments. I have got to the point where I say "what is the point in getting angry anymore" Steal a load of money, don't go to prison because they are full and pay back £1 a week. Country is f----d be it the Welsh or English government. Conservative voter. 100% I’d be more concerned about the scumbags running the country if I were you. They despise you. I don't vote anymore mate, I have joined the apathy party. |
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Post by welshrover on Apr 26, 2023 7:56:58 GMT
Don't wish to get into a "right or wrong" argument re Wrexham's stand but the much quoted "misuse of taxpayer funds" goes on every day in every walk of life. The bloke who lives up the road from me who is allegedly disabled spends my taxes down the pub seven nights a week. There is right and wrong but it appears we live in a country now where if you can get away with it, crack on, be you a mega rich Canadian (not American) or just ordinary Joe from down the road. Are disabled people not allowed to drink alcohol or am I missing something? The fact that you’re punching down, not up, means the government have got you right where they want you. You conveniently skip read the word allegedly in my post. |
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Post by Lobster on Apr 26, 2023 11:24:29 GMT
Are disabled people not allowed to drink alcohol or am I missing something? The fact that you’re punching down, not up, means the government have got you right where they want you. You conveniently skip read the word allegedly in my post. So you're questioning his disability then? Is he not making it visible enough to you?
For all you know he could have a few months to live and you're begrudging him spending what little time he has left enjoying himself.
Anyway, alcohol is highly taxable, so who cares? He's effectively putting a lot of that money back into the economy and supporting a local pub at the same time. It's the bastards hoarding millions in the Cayman Islands you should be getting worked up about.
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Post by thetheremin on Apr 26, 2023 13:34:19 GMT
It’s August 2027, two months after Ryan Reynolds opened the new Welsh Dragon gin distillery on the site of the famous old Racecourse ground in Wrexham. One enormous floodlight pylon has been retained on the site as a grudging nod to the history of the place. AFC Wrexham 1864 fans wearily look forward to their new start ground sharing at Llangollen United in the Ardal League. Bootlegger is on TikTok 24/7 threatening to kill Reynolds.
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Post by welshrover on Apr 28, 2023 10:25:42 GMT
In even more bizarre news Wrexham MP (Conservative) offered her congratulations to Wrexham FC in the houses of Parliament and Rishi Sunak (obviously Conservative) endorsed these congratulations.
Obviously they don't eat at MacDonalds!
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Post by Matt on Apr 28, 2023 10:49:30 GMT
In even more bizarre news Wrexham MP (Conservative) offered her congratulations to Wrexham FC in the houses of Parliament and Rishi Sunak (obviously Conservative) endorsed these congratulations. Obviously they don't eat at MacDonalds! Strange chant considering it's who they voted for |
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