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Post by boughtonblue on Feb 5, 2023 10:58:23 GMT
I'm watching from afar and haven't been since Telford away. Is it 1. Traditional post Xmas slump 2. Teams have worked us out 3. We overchieved before xmas 4. It's just a bad patch My gut feeling is maybe we are a bit tired and got carried away with results before Xmas.
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Post by chesterken on Feb 5, 2023 11:19:40 GMT
I'm watching from afar and haven't been since Telford away. Is it 1. Traditional post Xmas slump 2. Teams have worked us out 3. We overchieved before xmas 4. It's just a bad patch My gut feeling is maybe we are a bit tired and got carried away with results before Xmas. I don’t think it’s a case of a post Xmas slump at the moment because we have been poor at home all season not just in the last few games, teams now know how to stop us playing at home and every game is following a similar pattern.it’s funny that I came away from that defeat yesterday in a much more upbeat mood than I have when we were scoring last minute winners because we created more chances in the game than we have from the last five combined. We have already shown it’s possible to go on a run and get back on track as we came from 16th to 2nd with the little run we put together I’d season, so we don’t need to panic we just need to get players in the positions they are comfortable in and get a few wins under our belts.
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Post by Lobster on Feb 5, 2023 12:21:24 GMT
Spennymoor have put the goals up already.
Not great goals to concede. Can't really see what the penalty was for, nobody seemed to be appealing for anything.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2023 12:33:47 GMT
Spennymoor have put the goals up already. Not great goals to concede. Can't really see what the penalty was for, nobody seemed to be appealing for anything. I think he gave that pen because he know he missed a stonewall hand ball for us a few minutes earlier. That was the general consensus on the Harry Mac !
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Post by Lobster on Feb 5, 2023 12:52:27 GMT
Spennymoor have put the goals up already. Not great goals to concede. Can't really see what the penalty was for, nobody seemed to be appealing for anything. I think he gave that pen because he know he missed a stonewall hand ball for us a few minutes earlier. That was the general consensus on the Harry Mac ! We're due a dodgy decision in our favour anyway, and they're had plenty against us over the years.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2023 13:07:24 GMT
So we just ignoring Calum pretty much blaming home fans for our poor home record here, twice! Previous managers been slaughtered for less
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Post by Lobster on Feb 5, 2023 13:28:04 GMT
So we just ignoring Calum pretty much blaming home fans for our poor home record here, twice! Previous managers been slaughtered for less Did he though? He mentioned confidence being low at home, which could be inferred as a call to create a better atmosphere. He's probably got a point to be fair, the Deva can be a very grumbly place at times.
We've identified that we have an issue with home performances and results. Personally, I'm willing to be patient and allow Calum to experiment as he looks to solve this, and accept that not everything he tries will work. When that patience gets tested is when we lose doing largely the same thing.
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Post by rcb on Feb 5, 2023 13:40:42 GMT
Dudley MoM by a mile, Coates and Stephenson close runners up. These fake injuries need stamping out too. Unless it is clear head, play on. If they're not injured they'll soon get up and play on. Christian Eriksen didn’t have a head injury.
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Post by oldblue72 on Feb 5, 2023 13:50:33 GMT
He’s talking a good talk but he picked the wrong team yesterday and although he talks about changing things at home he’s changed nothing and remains too cautious and fearful of the opposition.
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Post by Jack on Feb 5, 2023 14:38:50 GMT
Bit concerning that he's focusing on the negatives of the second half yesterday and being too open, as opposed to the clear improvement in attack/chances made when we played with wingers. We can't look at earlier victories this season against Blyth, Bradford, Southport etc as the blueprint because we were fortunate in all of them.
I really do think we need to be on the front foot at home in this league. In a pretty miserable season last year, we still emphatically won at least 5 or 6 home games by a few goals. The Deva is an asset when we're on the front foot and it gives us an advantage.
I've not been impressed with the bits and pieces I've seen of Adam Thomas, however yesterday he was direct and a threat. To be fair to the lad, he's been given very minutes and it's hard to gain momentum coming off the bench for 5 minutes here and there. He and Stephenson have to play at home.
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Post by boughtonblue on Feb 5, 2023 15:13:28 GMT
So we just ignoring Calum pretty much blaming home fans for our poor home record here, twice! Previous managers been slaughtered for less Did he though? He mentioned confidence being low at home, which could be inferred as a call to create a better atmosphere. He's probably got a point to be fair, the Deva can be a very grumbly place at times.
We've identified that we have an issue with home performances and results. Personally, I'm willing to be patient and allow Calum to experiment as he looks to solve this, and accept that not everything he tries will work. When that patience gets tested is when we lose doing largely the same thing.
We had a great record at home with B&J with worse atmospheres I think. Admittedly we were rubbish away though!!
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Post by vandycandy on Feb 5, 2023 15:29:11 GMT
He’s talking a good talk but he picked the wrong team yesterday and although he talks about changing things at home he’s changed nothing and remains too cautious and fearful of the opposition. I don't get why he is so negative...as playing at home is a chance to make away sides fearful of coming here. It doesn't make sense to me. I still maintain we have the players capable of getting promotion but the tactics are what's letting us down. Imagine if we didn't have Willoughby scoring all his goals too.
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Post by Harry Lime on Feb 5, 2023 15:42:09 GMT
Bit concerning that he's focusing on the negatives of the second half yesterday and being too open, as opposed to the clear improvement in attack/chances made when we played with wingers. We can't look at earlier victories this season against Blyth, Bradford, Southport etc as the blueprint because we were fortunate in all of them. I really do think we need to be on the front foot at home in this league. In a pretty miserable season last year, we still emphatically won at least 5 or 6 home games by a few goals. The Deva is an asset when we're on the front foot and it gives us an advantage. I've not been impressed with the bits and pieces I've seen of Adam Thomas, however yesterday he was direct and a threat. To be fair to the lad, he's been given very minutes and it's hard to gain momentum coming off the bench for 5 minutes here and there. He and Stephenson have to play at home. That was the concern for me too. Spennymoor were unable to get near our goal or even keep the ball for 20 minutes. Cal highlights us letting a goal in. I think most supporters would feel the 2nd half was the most enjoyable football we've seen at home since Oldham. Positive for me was that Cal made the change in shape and tactics. Because in recent games at home, we haven't really changed much. Suppose from a coach's viewpoint you'd rather win 1-0 where you create one chance and take it, and limit the opposition to nothing, than have a frantic exciting game. Learning curve for Cal this. We're not really doing anything different than we were in early December. Except maybe having a younger inexperienced attacking midfield. Caton, Hughes and Murray wasn't ideal against Alfreton. Hardly going to grind out results in that kind of game. Cal may need to accept a less considered style may get better results. Veiled comments about pressure on the players from the crowd are disappointing. We can be an expectant grumbly lot, but we've been almost fully supportive and behind the players and manager this season. Cal should just concentrate on getting players prepared and we'll support him and the team.
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Post by Curva Nord on Feb 5, 2023 15:50:30 GMT
Dudley MoM by a mile, Coates and Stephenson close runners up. These fake injuries need stamping out too. Unless it is clear head, play on. If they're not injured they'll soon get up and play on. Christian Eriksen didn’t have a head injury. Christian Erkisen was clearly fucked. He wasn't sat on the floor rubbing a twisted sock.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2023 15:57:09 GMT
Bit concerning that he's focusing on the negatives of the second half yesterday and being too open, as opposed to the clear improvement in attack/chances made when we played with wingers. We can't look at earlier victories this season against Blyth, Bradford, Southport etc as the blueprint because we were fortunate in all of them. I really do think we need to be on the front foot at home in this league. In a pretty miserable season last year, we still emphatically won at least 5 or 6 home games by a few goals. The Deva is an asset when we're on the front foot and it gives us an advantage. I've not been impressed with the bits and pieces I've seen of Adam Thomas, however yesterday he was direct and a threat. To be fair to the lad, he's been given very minutes and it's hard to gain momentum coming off the bench for 5 minutes here and there. He and Stephenson have to play at home. That was the concern for me too. Spennymoor were unable to get near our goal or even keep the ball for 20 minutes. Cal highlights us letting a goal in. I think most supporters would feel the 2nd half was the most enjoyable football we've seen at home since Oldham. Positive for me was that Cal made the change in shape and tactics. Because in recent games at home, we haven't really changed much. Suppose from a coach's viewpoint you'd rather win 1-0 where you create one chance and take it, and limit the opposition to nothing, than have a frantic exciting game. Learning curve for Cal this. We're not really doing anything different than we were in early December. Except maybe having a younger inexperienced attacking midfield. Caton, Hughes and Murray wasn't ideal against Alfreton. Hardly going to grind out results in that kind of game. Cal may need to accept a less considered style may get better results. Veiled comments about pressure on the players from the crowd are disappointing. We can be an expectant grumbly lot, but we've been almost fully supportive and behind the players and manager this season. Cal should just concentrate on getting players prepared and we'll support him and the team. Great points - I felt his interview was a dig at 90% of the crowd screaming out for width and he’s like ‘look I give you 2 wingers and we got hit on the counter so who’s knows best’ We created / were more of a threat second half with Thomas and Daz than we’d done in some time. We don’t need to play the same way at home than we do away and I thought the penny dropped yesterday but then his interview makes me think it won’t happen again? We’re still in the playoffs and after Kings Lynn we can string a run with any luck and I’ll give Cal the benefit in his interviews; he’s not perfectly media trained and is a little raw but treading a fine line insinuating the expectation of home fans are causing the players to lack confidence…. Would they rather 1300 in? Don’t like a big club with pressure in NLN then off you pop to Curzon or Farsley.
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Post by brooklaneblue on Feb 5, 2023 19:20:08 GMT
Unfortunately a loss was on the cards sooner or later but its not the end of the world and we played better than on the Tuesday night unfortunately we did not get the rub of the green this time.
Players, Burk looked unfit and also struggled in midfield, won very little. Roberts looked a little jaded, Weeks and Roberts having to drop back deep to pick up the ball creates problems and weakens the midfield. I am baffled why Cal does not start with Stephenson and Thomas its so obvious that they make an impact. Williams can and will bring the ball up the pitch but Edwards seems to be uncomfortable doing this and has i high percentage on sideways or back passing, this need resolving.
MOTM, Coats always puts in a shift and seldom makes mistakes, Williams had a good game and so did Dudley.
Did anyone else notice their back pass in the second half, the Ref was not having any of it, stating it was un intended, the ball was kicked from outside the area and the keeper caught with out moving.
Fantastic home support this week and its nice to see a queue at the turnstiles, well done everyone who makes this happen.
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Post by jimianto on Feb 6, 2023 9:59:42 GMT
Bit concerning that he's focusing on the negatives of the second half yesterday and being too open, as opposed to the clear improvement in attack/chances made when we played with wingers. We can't look at earlier victories this season against Blyth, Bradford, Southport etc as the blueprint because we were fortunate in all of them. I really do think we need to be on the front foot at home in this league. In a pretty miserable season last year, we still emphatically won at least 5 or 6 home games by a few goals. The Deva is an asset when we're on the front foot and it gives us an advantage. I've not been impressed with the bits and pieces I've seen of Adam Thomas, however yesterday he was direct and a threat. To be fair to the lad, he's been given very minutes and it's hard to gain momentum coming off the bench for 5 minutes here and there. He and Stephenson have to play at home. Well maybe in the Fylde debacle he was daft, but otherwise I don't think he's done too much wrong. He was excellent at Peterborough and Chorley, but Cal clearly prefers Iwan Murray over him in his favoured system. I think we would see a benefit form him starting games, along with Stevo - especially at home. Totally agree with your first point - don't understand Cal's attitude here. We were unlucky not to win a pen at 0-1 and had we equalised, we possibly go on and win that, as they were tiring near the end. Overall, we were so much better than the 3 previous home games despite Brown, Weeks & Roberts being fairly poor. With that set up, we'll start winning soon. I really hope he doesn't revert to plan A against Boston, because it's awful to endure at home.
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Post by jimianto on Feb 6, 2023 12:19:17 GMT
Highlights -
On a really good day, we're 5-1 up after 32 minutes!
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Feb 6, 2023 12:41:02 GMT
For a loss I actually enjoyed the game. They had a few really decent players, McKeown (28) was a real threat, and the number 2 gave Brown a torrid time. Glen Taylor is the best centre forward in this league. In our side he scores 30 goals.
Dudley scores the 1 on 1 we win easy. He had his best game in a while, as did Williams. I prefer Williams and Burke at CH, as Edwards distribution is poor and there is a cigarette papers difference in defensive quality between him and Burke. 2nd half was really enjoyable, and as above if the pen is given at 0-1 we win the game. Stephenson looked like his last season self down the left, and Coates/Thomas were a threat down the right.
When I read some of the words used above I despair, especially oldseal72. Almost like a vendetta. Personally not panicking, happy with the progress made from last season and confident we will get into the playoffs where its anyones game. I am really excited for what next season brings though, when Cal Mac has had a chance to refine a settled squad. Get rid of some players for whom it hasn't worked out, and add some new blood.
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Post by iandychesterfc on Feb 6, 2023 14:07:37 GMT
Its not a vendetta at all. Simply saying Cal is getting a very easy ride for blaming home fans for the poor performances.
The atmosphere and attendances have been best they have been for years, the team simply isn't setup to do anything but be compact and hit on the counter. Its away team tactics, when the deva is one of the better pitches in the league.
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Feb 6, 2023 14:50:10 GMT
Its not a vendetta at all. Simply saying Cal is getting a very easy ride for blaming home fans for the poor performances. The atmosphere and attendances have been best they have been for years, the team simply isn't setup to do anything but be compact and hit on the counter. Its away team tactics, when the deva is one of the better pitches in the league. He isn't blaming home fans? He is blaming confidence, saying it "is really low around the group at home.." I just think that as bad as the run has been at home, using words like "disgrace", "utter garbage" and "dire" just isn't accurate after Saturday.
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Post by beavis on Feb 6, 2023 14:56:20 GMT
For a loss I actually enjoyed the game. They had a few really decent players, McKeown (28) was a real threat, and the number 2 gave Brown a torrid time. Glen Taylor is the best centre forward in this league. In our side he scores 30 goals. Dudley scores the 1 on 1 we win easy. He had his best game in a while, as did Williams. I prefer Williams and Burke at CH, as Edwards distribution is poor and there is a cigarette papers difference in defensive quality between him and Burke. 2nd half was really enjoyable, and as above if the pen is given at 0-1 we win the game. Stephenson looked like his last season self down the left, and Coates/Thomas were a threat down the right. When I read some of the words used above I despair, especially oldseal72. Almost like a vendetta. Personally not panicking, happy with the progress made from last season and confident we will get into the playoffs where its anyones game. I am really excited for what next season brings though, when Cal Mac has had a chance to refine a settled squad. Get rid of some players for whom it hasn't worked out, and add some new blood. I think every single one of us agrees that this season is a huge improvement on last year but lets be honest here last season should have been and I think will be our nadir. I don't think by constantly comparing to last season should mean we're all happy with the last few weeks and the home form which quite frankly is awful. I can't believe any of us are excited for next season when there's so much left of this one and whilst we're sat in a playoff spot. We've essentially gone full time now and have a bigger budget than we've had before so we should be doing what we can to get over the line this time. Last seasons home points per game = 1.57 This seasons home points per game = 1.40 I like Calum, I thought he was the right fit at the right time and still do but he needs to stop worrying about the opposition and switch off from the dopes who sit behind him. In Cal we trust
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Feb 6, 2023 15:45:46 GMT
For a loss I actually enjoyed the game. They had a few really decent players, McKeown (28) was a real threat, and the number 2 gave Brown a torrid time. Glen Taylor is the best centre forward in this league. In our side he scores 30 goals. Dudley scores the 1 on 1 we win easy. He had his best game in a while, as did Williams. I prefer Williams and Burke at CH, as Edwards distribution is poor and there is a cigarette papers difference in defensive quality between him and Burke. 2nd half was really enjoyable, and as above if the pen is given at 0-1 we win the game. Stephenson looked like his last season self down the left, and Coates/Thomas were a threat down the right. When I read some of the words used above I despair, especially oldseal72. Almost like a vendetta. Personally not panicking, happy with the progress made from last season and confident we will get into the playoffs where its anyones game. I am really excited for what next season brings though, when Cal Mac has had a chance to refine a settled squad. Get rid of some players for whom it hasn't worked out, and add some new blood. I think every single one of us agrees that this season is a huge improvement on last year but lets be honest here last season should have been and I think will be our nadir. I don't think by constantly comparing to last season should mean we're all happy with the last few weeks and the home form which quite frankly is awful. I can't believe any of us are excited for next season when there's so much left of this one and whilst we're sat in a playoff spot. We've essentially gone full time now and have a bigger budget than we've had before so we should be doing what we can to get over the line this time. Last seasons home points per game = 1.57 This seasons home points per game = 1.40 I like Calum, I thought he was the right fit at the right time and still do but he needs to stop worrying about the opposition and switch off from the dopes who sit behind him. In Cal we trust I agree with what you are saying, but would want confirmation from someone on the board about the budget. I'm not too sure its as high as in the past. I also think some of the words used above after Saturday are plain wrong. We weren't dire. We were too conservative first half and missed chances, but second half were very good. The reason I'm excited for next season is due to me listening to the podcast from the other day, and Cals explanation about next season not having to start with a blank canvas.
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Post by cestrian60 on Feb 6, 2023 16:30:32 GMT
At last some common sense posts, even though we lost Saturday I enjoyed the game. The atmosphere in the Harry Mac has been great this season and probably contributes to the attendance’s being better. The last thing that’s needed is some of the ultra negative comments on here that basically tells people don’t bother going again. I was frustrated at times Saturday but please give the manager a chance, anyone would think we have a squad full of Internationals.
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Post by yossergolf on Feb 6, 2023 18:01:50 GMT
The game against Spennymoor overall was a decent game at this level. Thought we created the better chances but Spennymoor looked more dangerous. When I saw the team selected I was convinced that we would play a back 3 with the full backs providing the width. Surprised that Burke was playing so far forward. Unfortunately Burke has excellent potential as a centre back and we should be looking to get him playing in that position - after all that is where we will get the best return on him from. We are in desperate need for a strike partner for Willoughby, Dudley played really well but he is not an out and out striker. Kole Hall when he plays has the habit of drifting in to a deeper role. If we are to maintain a play off position and then mount a challenge then that is an area to strengthen.
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Post by jimianto on Feb 7, 2023 10:25:46 GMT
At last some common sense posts, even though we lost Saturday I enjoyed the game. The atmosphere in the Harry Mac has been great this season and probably contributes to the attendance’s being better. The last thing that’s needed is some of the ultra negative comments on here that basically tells people don’t bother going again. I was frustrated at times Saturday but please give the manager a chance, anyone would think we have a squad full of Internationals. Absolutely. The irony is that some of those posters won't have even been at the match. I read a rant on one of the previous game's threads and the poster was calling this and that..but they had only been on Seals Live for the commentary! The supporters have been fantastic over this season and long may it continue. There is a great vibe and we just need to hammer someone at home and all will be well!
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Post by Moltisanti on Feb 7, 2023 11:34:10 GMT
At last some common sense posts, even though we lost Saturday I enjoyed the game. The atmosphere in the Harry Mac has been great this season and probably contributes to the attendance’s being better. The last thing that’s needed is some of the ultra negative comments on here that basically tells people don’t bother going again. I was frustrated at times Saturday but please give the manager a chance, anyone would think we have a squad full of Internationals. Absolutely. The irony is that some of those posters won't have even been at the match. I read a rant on one of the previous game's threads and the poster was calling this and that..but they had only been on Seals Live for the commentary! The supporters have been fantastic over this season and long may it continue. There is a great vibe and we just need to hammer someone at home and all will be well! I don’t even discuss the match with someone who doesn’t even go and listens on the radio, more so people who just can’t be arsed going.
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Post by Harry Lime on Feb 7, 2023 18:34:20 GMT
Where are these so called ultra negative comments?
Most people on here seemed to be fairly positive about the performance. More so than other recent home games. Balanced thread imo.
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Post by glanaber1 on Feb 10, 2023 10:40:35 GMT
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Post by league2 on Feb 10, 2023 13:07:04 GMT
Our manager isn't blaming the crowd 🙄
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