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Post by blues on May 12, 2017 9:34:29 GMT
I have seen a few comments regarding this, and this the whole matchday experience has declined over the past few years. I was just wondering - what were we doing 5 years ago that we aren't doing now (apart from smashing teams every week)? And what changes would people like to see being made? It is worrying that some fans are starting to see going to watch Chester as a chore rather than an enjoyable afternoon watching the club we all love, so what ideas do people have?
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Post by Oaks Blue on May 12, 2017 10:01:34 GMT
Equality for all fans, reference the blues bar versus legends lounge.
Directors and board members mingling with fans
Players chatting to fans after games. MOM presentation in blues bar win, lose or draw
No charges for blues bar before game
£10 terrace
More kids at games
Crossbar challenge at half time where fans pay a fiver to have 3 cracks. 18 yard box, 30 yards and half way line could be options, furthest distance wins a shirt.
A well stocked club shop
Anything to remove the soulless graveyard atmosphere that currently circles the deva on matchdays, literally anything!
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Post by Blue Boy on May 12, 2017 10:07:50 GMT
Equality for all fans, reference the blues bar versus legends lounge. Directors and board members mingling with fans Players chatting to fans after games. MOM presentation in blues bar win, lose or draw No charges for blues bar before game £10 terrace More kids at games Crossbar challenge at half time where fans pay a fiver to have 3 cracks. 18 yard box, 30 yards and half way line could be options, furthest distance wins a shirt. A well stocked club shop Anything to remove the soulless graveyard atmosphere that currently circles the deva on matchdays, literally anything! Totally agree with both although corporate facilities such as the legends lounge are a necessary evil in modern football and bring in significant income
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Post by Oaks Blue on May 12, 2017 10:13:06 GMT
I'm not suggesting the legends lounge is the problem. It's the division of the fans that I don't like.
I can't remember the last time any players or officials from the club were stood in the blues bar actively engaging the fans. The players normally scurry through as quick as possible trying not to be seen. It stinks
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Post by Blue Boy on May 12, 2017 10:21:46 GMT
I must say I have always thought the idea of a draw at the start of the season for all CFU members to be entered into with 2 tickets for match day boardroom experience for each game , I.e 23 sets of tickets , it might improve the concept of fan ownership and add value to the CFU membership
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Post by Disgruntled on May 12, 2017 10:35:43 GMT
I'm not suggesting the legends lounge is the problem. It's the division of the fans that I don't like. I can't remember the last time any players or officials from the club were stood in the blues bar actively engaging the fans. The players normally scurry through as quick as possible trying not to be seen. It stinks Agreed, the players and officials should have to face the fans ,win lose or draw .This hasnt happened for over 3 years now
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Post by Common Sense on May 12, 2017 10:39:40 GMT
Equality for all fans, reference the blues bar versus legends lounge. - You pay to go in the legends lounge to eat etc. so comparison is unfair. Directors and board members mingling with fans - Regularly see a one or two in the bar after a game, most fans aren't there. Players chatting to fans after games. MOM presentation in blues bar win, lose or draw - See above, Jonny Hunt, Lynch and George we're in the bar after the Boreham Game. In general our players do more for the fans than any other group. No charges for blues bar before game - This was Scrapped if you remember?! £10 terrace - Already Open to Under 21's More kids at games - Err have you not seen the work of the community trust Crossbar challenge at half time where fans pay a fiver to have 3 cracks. 18 yard box, 30 yards and half way line could be options, furthest distance wins a shirt. - fair enough, not hard to do. A well stocked club shop - PUMA DEAL Anything to remove the soulless graveyard atmosphere that currently circles the deva on matchdays, literally anything!
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Post by bing on May 12, 2017 10:46:12 GMT
Some good ideas being suggested here.
I like the idea of a draw for corporate hospitality to help dispel this "us and them" myth that some people seem intent on focusing on. For the life of me I don't understand why any fan would be against the club looking to offer different price points for different people to enjoy the game. At the end of the day, their money goes to our club.
Like some of Oaks Blue's ideas - especially something like the crossbar challenge. If we got loads of kids in we could even have a 'School of the day' and get them to see how many times they can hit the cross bar / post in one minute - a bit like Soccer AM. We could video it, put it online, which hopefully would create some viral marketing amongst friends and relatives of the kids.
I love seeing the likes of Alan Tarbuck wondering round the stands talking to people. I've seen various directors doing this too, so more of the same would be good - and perhaps some of the squad members who aren't playing, or are out injured. Remember when Ben Mills stood in the Harry Mac? I thought that was brilliant! MOM presented in Blues Bar would be great.
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Post by sqzl on May 12, 2017 10:46:23 GMT
Equality for all fans, reference the blues bar versus legends lounge. - You pay to go in the legends lounge to eat etc. so comparison is unfair. Directors and board members mingling with fans - Regularly see a one or two in the bar after a game, most fans aren't there. Players chatting to fans after games. MOM presentation in blues bar win, lose or draw - See above, Jonny Hunt, Lynch and George we're in the bar after the Boreham Game. In general our players do more for the fans than any other group. No charges for blues bar before game - This was Scrapped if you remember?! £10 terrace - Already Open to Under 21's More kids at games - Err have you not seen the work of the community trust Crossbar challenge at half time where fans pay a fiver to have 3 cracks. 18 yard box, 30 yards and half way line could be options, furthest distance wins a shirt. - fair enough, not hard to do. A well stocked club shop - PUMA DEAL Anything to remove the soulless graveyard atmosphere that currently circles the deva on matchdays, literally anything! Puma deal is the worst decision this club has made. I agree with Oaks, things need to change to improve the feeling around the place, it wouldn't be too hard to integrate some of the suggestions either. Not sure regarding players though, not often would you see players integrating after a heavy loss, they are probably equally frustrated.
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Post by Disgruntled on May 12, 2017 10:56:11 GMT
Puma deal is the worst decision this club has made. I agree with Oaks, things need to change to improve the feeling around the place, it wouldn't be too hard to integrate some of the suggestions either. Not sure regarding players though, not often would you see players integrating after a heavy loss, they are probably equally frustrated. But we are supposed to be different .Fans owned . If the players were told by the club that they had to show their faces in the blues bar after every game performances would soon improve .
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Post by Seal on May 12, 2017 11:16:57 GMT
Puma deal is the worst decision this club has made. I agree with Oaks, things need to change to improve the feeling around the place, it wouldn't be too hard to integrate some of the suggestions either. Not sure regarding players though, not often would you see players integrating after a heavy loss, they are probably equally frustrated. But we are supposed to be different .Fans owned . If the players were told by the club that they had to show their faces in the blues bar after every game performances would soon improve . If only it was that easy to get Winning team
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Post by Hannibal on May 12, 2017 11:26:07 GMT
Puma deal is the worst decision this club has made. I agree with Oaks, things need to change to improve the feeling around the place, it wouldn't be too hard to integrate some of the suggestions either. Not sure regarding players though, not often would you see players integrating after a heavy loss, they are probably equally frustrated. Greetings from Hotel Yahuda, in Jerusalem.
The man of the match has to be presented in Legends Lounge because it is chosen by match day sponsors, who also have,a meal there as part of their package.
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Post by Common Sense on May 12, 2017 11:34:13 GMT
A Pool Table and a Football Table in the Blues Bar wouldn't go amiss, also a play station with FIFA for the younger fans (or those that haven't grown up yet)?
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Post by sqzl on May 12, 2017 12:12:29 GMT
Puma deal is the worst decision this club has made. I agree with Oaks, things need to change to improve the feeling around the place, it wouldn't be too hard to integrate some of the suggestions either. Not sure regarding players though, not often would you see players integrating after a heavy loss, they are probably equally frustrated. But we are supposed to be different .Fans owned . If the players were told by the club that they had to show their faces in the blues bar after every game performances would soon improve . I know where you're coming from, but fan owned or not we still operate as a working business, under paid staff. I doubt we can force any player to go into the blues bar after a game, win or defeat. Not exactly a standard clause in a players contract. It would be up to the player at their own digression. Notably, strong rumor has it that Hunt and Durrell were both released for being disruptive in the dressing room...with Hunt actually kicking off on team mates several times. Not the type of player you'd want to chat to after a defeat i imagine. There must be some personalities in there that would want to integrate, it's a question of getting it across to them.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 12:22:39 GMT
Think there needs to be more done with the matchday experience for kids.
We had the opening of the family zone which was ok, players made accessible to kids for autos etc but nothing has been done since.
I've felt the club has concentrated more on entertaining local football teams/team of the day etc (which itself is a great thing) and I feel it's been at the expense of entertaining kids who are actually there for the game. I've seen players engaging with kids in their local football strips whilst other kids with their parents just sit there waiting for kick off.
I feel more could be done with Junior Blues every matchday (the Takeover looked a success). Online videos doesn't really get the kids involved, Junior Blues Live I think it's called.
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Post by Disgruntled on May 12, 2017 12:27:16 GMT
I realise that we cant force players to mingle with the fans . Thats one good thing about the lower leagues . If you didnt think players were giving enough you could get rid of them easily . Sadly money ,even at our level is the root of all evil . But there has to be discipline and that starts at the top .The directors need to put more pressure on all of the staff,not just players to perform better . Sorry ,this has gone somewhat off topic . Basicly all of the things we did with the match day experience 3 years ago should be re-instated .
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Post by dmcnally on May 12, 2017 12:54:42 GMT
Equality for all fans, reference the blues bar versus legends lounge. Directors and board members mingling with fans Players chatting to fans after games. MOM presentation in blues bar win, lose or draw No charges for blues bar before game £10 terrace More kids at games Crossbar challenge at half time where fans pay a fiver to have 3 cracks. 18 yard box, 30 yards and half way line could be options, furthest distance wins a shirt. A well stocked club shop Anything to remove the soulless graveyard atmosphere that currently circles the deva on matchdays, literally anything! Just regarding the atmosphere and more kids at games. As many are aware I'm working on improving the atmosphere and adding more life to the matchday experience, I've also been invited to a meeting with the club to see how they can help with that. Hopefully some progress on that front next season.
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Post by dmcnally on May 12, 2017 13:01:43 GMT
The club need to see this thread. Might be best off emailing the club with a link to this thread asking them to consider some of the ideas raised.
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Post by billyw on May 12, 2017 17:29:36 GMT
Equality for all fans, reference the blues bar versus legends lounge. Directors and board members mingling with fans Players chatting to fans after games. MOM presentation in blues bar win, lose or draw No charges for blues bar before game £10 terrace More kids at games Crossbar challenge at half time where fans pay a fiver to have 3 cracks. 18 yard box, 30 yards and half way line could be options, furthest distance wins a shirt. A well stocked club shop Anything to remove the soulless graveyard atmosphere that currently circles the deva on matchdays, literally anything! An occasional win might help as well.
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Post by Simon O on May 12, 2017 17:55:52 GMT
I'm not suggesting the legends lounge is the problem. It's the division of the fans that I don't like. I can't remember the last time any players or officials from the club were stood in the blues bar actively engaging the fans. The players normally scurry through as quick as possible trying not to be seen. It stinks Agreed, the players and officials should have to face the fans ,win lose or draw .This hasnt happened for over 3 years now [ I have to disagree with the comment that this has not happened for the past 3 years. I used to be in the Blues Bar talking to both our fans and the away fans two or three times before the game and after the game, regardless of the result.
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Post by banksy on May 12, 2017 19:45:13 GMT
Equality for all fans, reference the blues bar versus legends lounge. There is a clear need for the hospitality in the lounge. It brings in a major amount of income from those who are in a fortunate position to afford it. A few years ago, the Lounge was accessible from the Blues Bar after the game, I think around 5.30pm once the players had been fed. Directors and board members mingling with fans From my time on the board, we always did that, but you always have to consider that there are various roles that board members have to do during matchday. Mike Day for instance has to ensure that the match DVD is with both match officials and the opposing club too. That takes a fair bit of time to sort. That's just one role but each and every board member has a duty of some sort to fulfil on the day itself and therefore can appear as though they are off doing other things. I know Alan and Simon used to frequent the Blues bar to greet and speak to fans in there, whilst others were probably getting on with those other essential match day roles. Players chatting to fans after games. MOM presentation in blues bar win, lose or draw You would hope the players do this, and it's quite disappointing if the man of the match doesn't appear downstairs in the Blues bar as that should be a given. It was always something we did do, once the presentation had taken place upstairs first with the match sponsor. No charges for blues bar before game Wasn't this trialled towards the end of the season with a view to it being the case on a permanent basis? £10 terrace This has long been debated, and there is much to consider. There is a massive risk with reducing the price to that level, hence I would imagine why it's not happened recently. More kids at games Couldn't agree more, and the fun factor for kids has to be there on the day. Hopefully the likes of the Community Trust can be expanded to include things going on outside the ground before the game to make the whole day great for kids. Crossbar challenge at half time where fans pay a fiver to have 3 cracks. 18 yard box, 30 yards and half way line could be options, furthest distance wins a shirt. Believe it or not, when I tried to get this going, we were prevented from doing so by health and safety! A well stocked club shop Will leave that to those better suited to answer, but there does seem to plenty in there when I've been in there. Anything to remove the soulless graveyard atmosphere that currently circles the deva on matchdays, literally anything! That's the challenge for everyone to rise to. The club, the fans, and the players. That's just my take on things that have been raised. There are lots of good things suggested by many which should de followed up, and some things that don't happen anymore for some unknown reason, but surely could be brought back to get the fun factor going again. Sorry haven't quite hot used to the format on here to quote and respond to others yet! Jeff
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Post by Rio Doherty on May 12, 2017 20:59:40 GMT
A Pool Table and a Football Table in the Blues Bar wouldn't go amiss, also a play station with FIFA for the younger fans (or those that haven't grown up yet)? The pool table is a good idea, but I disagree with the play station. I have seen far too many kids at home matches just staring at their phones without engaging towards the action. They should be there to enjoy a live professional football match. A PlayStation in the blues bar would just make it worse as they should interact with fellow supporters or they could even queue up for autographs with players. I have never touched/played on an XBOX/PlayStation (whatever they're called) at home and on a matchday I wouldn't either. I like to communicate with fans and players. I apologise for my mini rant, but on the other hand your idea of a pool/football table is a great idea. We could even erect a darts board. That would make the blues bar look like a proper bar. They should put music on in there like they did at Witton, or do a fans' karaoke. The club should read this thread as their have been some good suggestions so far, and have a real think through of the match day experience.
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Post by Oaks Blue on May 12, 2017 21:36:16 GMT
So we've had 12 or 13 different people post on this thread. And only 4 or 5 have actually responded with half decent ideas
It's no wonder there's apathy inside and outside of the club. Do you people actually give a shit?
Use your brains guys. Is it not obvious that the guest who started the thread works for the club?
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Post by Simon O on May 12, 2017 22:24:00 GMT
So we've had 12 or 13 different people post on this thread. And only 4 or 5 have actually responded with half decent ideas It's no wonder there's apathy inside and outside of the club. Do you people actually give a shit? Use your brains guys. Is it not obvious that the guest who started the thread works for the club? Oaks Blue, if you actually read back through this thread you will realise it is you that is trying to get a reaction. You are the one that stated you haven't seen a Director in the Blues Bar for three years. It is obvious that don't attend the club then, as I stated I used to go in there, Alan Povey did, Laurence does, Jonny Hughes does, Anne Salmon does, Neil Bellis does, and apologies to any other Directors who have done over the past three years who I have missed. It is people like you who claim the want "the best for the club" who in reality just want to criticise and wear down the enthusiasm of those who volunteer for your own agenda, whatever that is. When I was Chairman I did not read DC, as I felt it was important not to get involved in the mischief making that so called supporters get up to but I always made sure that I knew what the underlying feeling was. I do not understand how people can say that they want the best for the club, and then come out with such utter rubbish as you have spouted in this thread, as I have clearly demonstrated. Now I am not on the Board I am more than happy to respond to the fantasy posts on this forum, and unlike most people, I am happy to do so under my own name. Those who knew me as my time as Chairman will appreciate that I don't suffer fools gladly.
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Post by paulie on May 12, 2017 22:28:23 GMT
What happened to that lupus thing that used to go around the ground? Kids loved it.
Pool table in the blues bar is a ridiculous idea, hardly enough room to swing a cat.
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Post by paulie on May 12, 2017 22:29:32 GMT
Whŷ doesn't the man of the match get paraded in the blues bar anymore. Another perk taken away from us peasants.
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Post by Oaks Blue on May 12, 2017 22:30:44 GMT
So we've had 12 or 13 different people post on this thread. And only 4 or 5 have actually responded with half decent ideas It's no wonder there's apathy inside and outside of the club. Do you people actually give a shit? Use your brains guys. Is it not obvious that the guest who started the thread works for the club? Oaks Blue, if you actually read back through this thread you will realise it is you that is trying to get a reaction. You are the one that stated you haven't seen a Director in the Blues Bar for three years. It is obvious that don't attend the club then, as I stated I used to go in there, Alan Povey did, Laurence does, Jonny Hughes does, Anne Salmon does, Neil Bellis does, and apologies to any other Directors who have done over the past three years who I have missed. It is people like you who claim the want "the best for the club" who in reality just want to criticise and wear down the enthusiasm of those who volunteer for your own agenda, whatever that is. When I was Chairman I did not read DC, as I felt it was important not to get involved in the mischief making that so called supporters get up to but I always made sure that I knew what the underlying feeling was. I do not understand how people can say that they want the best for the club, and then come out with such utter rubbish as you have spouted in this thread, as I have clearly demonstrated. Now I am not on the Board I am more than happy to respond to the fantasy posts on this forum, and unlike most people, I am happy to do so under my own name. Those who knew me as my time as Chairman will appreciate that I don't suffer fools gladly. Simon, please point out where I stated that I hadn't seen a director in the blues bar for 3 years. Once you've tried to do that I'll happily accept your apology. And if you read my last post you'll find that I'm appealing to the fans to contribute to this thread with more ideas. I don't suffer fools either, so if you don't get what I'm talking about I'll not bother responding to you again.
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Post by Simon O on May 12, 2017 23:13:52 GMT
Oaks Blue, if you actually read back through this thread you will realise it is you that is trying to get a reaction. You are the one that stated you haven't seen a Director in the Blues Bar for three years. It is obvious that don't attend the club then, as I stated I used to go in there, Alan Povey did, Laurence does, Jonny Hughes does, Anne Salmon does, Neil Bellis does, and apologies to any other Directors who have done over the past three years who I have missed. It is people like you who claim the want "the best for the club" who in reality just want to criticise and wear down the enthusiasm of those who volunteer for your own agenda, whatever that is. When I was Chairman I did not read DC, as I felt it was important not to get involved in the mischief making that so called supporters get up to but I always made sure that I knew what the underlying feeling was. I do not understand how people can say that they want the best for the club, and then come out with such utter rubbish as you have spouted in this thread, as I have clearly demonstrated. Now I am not on the Board I am more than happy to respond to the fantasy posts on this forum, and unlike most people, I am happy to do so under my own name. Those who knew me as my time as Chairman will appreciate that I don't suffer fools gladly. Simon, please point out where I stated that I hadn't seen a director in the blues bar for 3 years. Once you've tried to do that I'll happily accept your apology. And if you read my last post you'll find that I'm appealing to the fans to contribute to this thread with more ideas. I don't suffer fools either, so if you don't get what I'm talking about I'll not bother responding to you again. Oaks Blue, I have re-read the thread and realised that the "three year" comment was made by a guests, and therefore I apologise for the mistaken identity. However, the sentiments in my original post still stand, maybe if not directed at you, but the tone, and language, in your "appeal " does nothing for me, and comes across as confrontational, as does your response to my post.
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Post by Oaks Blue on May 12, 2017 23:24:03 GMT
Simon, please point out where I stated that I hadn't seen a director in the blues bar for 3 years. Once you've tried to do that I'll happily accept your apology. And if you read my last post you'll find that I'm appealing to the fans to contribute to this thread with more ideas. I don't suffer fools either, so if you don't get what I'm talking about I'll not bother responding to you again. Oaks Blue, I have re-read the thread and realised that the "three year" comment was made by a guests, and therefore I apologise for the mistaken identity. However, the sentiments in my original post still stand, maybe if not directed at you, but the tone, and language, in your "appeal " does nothing for me, and comes across as confrontational, as does your response to my post. The guest who started the thread was asking for people to advise what was being done 5 years ago, and to suggest new ideas to make the match day experience a better one. I stated facts, and also new ideas. Which have been quoted and agreed with by a number of people. My response to you may seem confrontational, that's because I felt I needed to defend myself against your confrontational post towards me. Maybe once you've sobered up you'll read it all again providing you don't edit your post again to make it sound a bit better. We all want what is best for the club at the end of the day, I'd appreciate it if we kept this on topic instead of misreading message's and trying to pick up on stuff that has no relevance.
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Post by Simon O on May 12, 2017 23:49:04 GMT
Oaks Blue, your comment regarding my sobriety is both uncalled for, and inaccurate, maybe you should stick to things that are relevant. With regards to your comment on editing posts, I joined this forum last night andvi am still getting used to how it works, hopefully others on this forum will be more foregiving and less cynical than you.
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