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Post by league2 on Apr 1, 2024 18:56:55 GMT
Money Money Money as the song goes, When the smaller teams play against us they all raise there game, if we haven't got better players we get beat,and we haven't. So unless the budget is significantly improved next season and we can get the better players in we will be in the same boat....... football is all about money and we haven't got any.
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Post by Lon on Apr 1, 2024 19:05:06 GMT
Being fan owned brings a toxic atmosphere and attitude towards the club , a lot of people on here believe that they are a chairman and a klopp ... we need to be realistic... we are fan owned we can only spend what we earn ... we are not bank rolled .... we've had a go .. its not worked this year ... if we don't make the play offs , we go again next season ... remember we don't have deep pockets... so many fickle c u next Tuesday s on here Fan owned brings a toxic atmosphere. Nice fucking troll 😂😂😂😂
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Post by deeseal on Apr 1, 2024 19:08:57 GMT
Being fan owned brings a toxic atmosphere and attitude towards the club , a lot of people on here believe that they are a chairman and a klopp ... we need to be realistic... we are fan owned we can only spend what we earn ... we are not bank rolled .... we've had a go .. its not worked this year ... if we don't make the play offs , we go again next season ... remember we don't have deep pockets... so many fickle c u next Tuesday s on here Fan owned brings a toxic atmosphere. Nice fucking troll 😂😂😂😂 It does because everyone thinks because they put in a couple of quid they are a football manager, director of football , scout , chairman, physio just be a fan and support the players and just accept we are where we are ... this is our level
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Post by muchwenlock on Apr 1, 2024 19:19:07 GMT
Fan owned brings a toxic atmosphere. Nice fucking troll 😂😂😂😂 It does because everyone thinks because they put in a couple of quid they are a football manager, director of football , scout , chairman, physio just be a fan and support the players and just accept we are where we are ... this is our level The question is how long are people just going to accept what you say about "our level" People will get bored and interest will wain leading to a slow and lingering decline
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Post by league2 on Apr 1, 2024 19:19:26 GMT
Fan owned brings a toxic atmosphere. Nice fucking troll 😂😂😂😂 It does because everyone thinks because they put in a couple of quid they are a football manager, director of football , scout , chairman, physio just be a fan and support the players and just accept we are where we are ... this is our level Excellent post to many wanabe chairman managers ext who need to except we need some sought of investment, but God knows where it would come from
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Post by agl on Apr 1, 2024 19:20:18 GMT
Fan owned brings a toxic atmosphere. Nice fucking troll 😂😂😂😂 It does because everyone thinks because they put in a couple of quid they are a football manager, director of football , scout , chairman, physio just be a fan and support the players and just accept we are where we are ... this is our level It's only our level because we've spunked a shot at the play offs. Cruising in third, to mid table in a couple of months. No one should accept that. I hate this set the bar low attitude. And it's nothing to do with being fan owned. Any fan with any passion should be mightily pissed off right now. Sorry if I give a shit.
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Post by Rimmer on Apr 1, 2024 19:21:40 GMT
Fan owned brings a toxic atmosphere. Nice fucking troll 😂😂😂😂 It does because everyone thinks because they put in a couple of quid they are a football manager, director of football , scout , chairman, physio just be a fan and support the players and just accept we are where we are ... this is our level Not for me it’s not our level, I so desperately want promotion to the National League and if we carry on showing a lack of ambition, I can see donations to the budget dropping off
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Post by deeseal on Apr 1, 2024 19:23:51 GMT
It does because everyone thinks because they put in a couple of quid they are a football manager, director of football , scout , chairman, physio just be a fan and support the players and just accept we are where we are ... this is our level Excellent post to many wanabe chairman managers ext who need to except we need some sought of investment, but God knows where it would come from If we got to national league we would come straight back down , people need to realise without outside investment its what will happen .... we are not a full time team and won't be if we ever got to national league because we don't have the money
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Post by agl on Apr 1, 2024 19:29:41 GMT
Excellent post to many wanabe chairman managers ext who need to except we need some sought of investment, but God knows where it would come from If we got to national league we would come straight back down , people need to realise without outside investment its what will happen .... we are not a full time team and won't be if we ever got to national league because we don't have the money We're not even debating that. The point is why is this squad not top 7? Why have we collapsed since Christmas? Whether we could survive right now in NL is pretty much irrelevant. We are not even a good NLN team in a league which looks pretty weak. That's what hurts.
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Post by deeseal on Apr 1, 2024 19:33:41 GMT
If we got to national league we would come straight back down , people need to realise without outside investment its what will happen .... we are not a full time team and won't be if we ever got to national league because we don't have the money We're not even debating that. The point is why is this squad not top 7? Why have we collapsed since Christmas? Whether we could survive right now in NL is pretty much irrelevant. We are not even a good NLN team in a league which looks pretty weak. That's what hurts. Pretty sure we have a top 10 budget for this league.... what we earn is what we spend ... no credit
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Post by Jack on Apr 1, 2024 19:36:08 GMT
The point with saying ‘they only pass sideways’ or they keep ‘slowing it down’ is a criticism of the system. There are no forward options, there are no runners and there’s no space to hit either.
It’s harder when the opposition sit in, but that’s when we need to commit bodies and take a risk. We’ll get caught every so often but it’s got to be better than what we’ve seen at the Deva.
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Post by oldtimer on Apr 1, 2024 19:36:41 GMT
Being fan owned brings a toxic atmosphere and attitude towards the club , a lot of people on here believe that they are a chairman and a klopp ... we need to be realistic... we are fan owned we can only spend what we earn ... we are not bank rolled .... we've had a go .. its not worked this year ... if we don't make the play offs , we go again next season ... remember we don't have deep pockets... so many fickle c u next Tuesday s on here Fan owned brings a toxic atmosphere. Nice fucking troll 😂😂😂😂 losing games to clubs who only get a small fraction of our attendances is what creates the toxic atmosphere as you put it not everyone is happy to watch games at this level season after season
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Post by properblue87 on Apr 1, 2024 19:36:52 GMT
Is it truly impossible to go up 9 points should get us over the line if results go out way
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Post by borussiachester on Apr 1, 2024 19:36:52 GMT
Certain people are revelling in Glendon’s poor performance today, but he’s not the central midfielder about whom I’m most concerned at the moment - has Weeks got a clause in his contract where he has to play ninety minutes every game or something? At least Friday showed that the former isn’t totally assured of his place in the side, but the latter appears to be untouchable and is still seemingly the first name on the team sheet despite having a hugely disappointing season.
Otherwise, I don’t think there’s all that much to discuss about our performance, because we’d just be saying the exact same things that have been said after every other recent home game, but it does my head in that we could perform so well a few days ago and then revert straight back to the same old the following game. Burton was the obvious choice for MOTM, although his passing was quite erratic, and I thought Taylor actually did alright again after coming on, but we’re talking about slim pickings here. On the other hand, I was very impressed by Alfreton, who looked everything we’re not - physical, direct, very dangerous from set-plays, and perhaps most crucially of all, communicative with one another at all times. I’m not suggesting that we ought to suddenly adopt their style of play, but I certainly think there are lessons we could learn from them, because they won every battle there was to be won both physically and mentally. I wasn’t too encouraged by the body language we displayed either - the players seemed to be getting easily wound-up and looked as though they’d just been told someone had died as they trudged off the pitch at the end, while Cal spent most of the game looking pretty exasperated, before disappearing straight down the tunnel on full-time and almost impressively managing to talk for 14 minutes in his interview without giving a straight answer to any of the questions or indeed saying anything that might inspire confidence.
Gloucester will be relegated if they fail to beat us on Saturday - surely even by our standards, that’s as winnable a game as they come. The one thing for which we ought to be thankful this season is that the league is so poor that we could end up back in the playoff spots with a win…
Also, I know it’s a big ask, but is there any chance we could have a sort of moratorium on registrations on here until the end of the season? Been a fair few new accounts popping up over the last week or so, and I’m not convinced any of them actually support us as they show little understanding of the club and only seem interested in stoking divisions.
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Post by deeseal on Apr 1, 2024 19:37:08 GMT
We're not even debating that. The point is why is this squad not top 7? Why have we collapsed since Christmas? Whether we could survive right now in NL is pretty much irrelevant. We are not even a good NLN team in a league which looks pretty weak. That's what hurts. Pretty sure we have a top 10 budget for this league.... what we earn is what we spend ... no credit We have no god given right to be promoted from this league
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Post by weareblues on Apr 1, 2024 19:37:17 GMT
Think the main thing we need to get sorted more than anything is wether we're part time or full time, Players training different times & Missing sessions through the day doesn't help us Don't think the Hybrid model works as well as people think at this level.
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Post by bb93 on Apr 1, 2024 19:38:38 GMT
The point with saying ‘they only pass sideways’ or they keep ‘slowing it down’ is a criticism of the system. There are no forward options, there are no runners and there’s no space to hit either. It’s harder when the opposition sit in, but that’s when we need to commit bodies and take a risk. We’ll get caught every so often but it’s got to be better than what we’ve seen at the Deva. There's no space for them to run into that's the issue. So you keep the ball looking for them to make a mistake but when they're as well drilled as Billy Heath teams are they very rarely do. We could have launched cross after cross into the box today if we wanted to, score would have still ended 0-2.
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Post by Lon on Apr 1, 2024 19:40:12 GMT
Fan owned brings a toxic atmosphere. Nice fucking troll 😂😂😂😂 It does because everyone thinks because they put in a couple of quid they are a football manager, director of football , scout , chairman, physio just be a fan and support the players and just accept we are where we are ... this is our level Actually a toxic atmosphere comes from the fanbase being from the old club that was in the football league for decades. Nothing to do with being fan owned
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Post by Lon on Apr 1, 2024 19:41:32 GMT
It does because everyone thinks because they put in a couple of quid they are a football manager, director of football , scout , chairman, physio just be a fan and support the players and just accept we are where we are ... this is our level It's only our level because we've spunked a shot at the play offs. Cruising in third, to mid table in a couple of months. No one should accept that. I hate this set the bar low attitude. And it's nothing to do with being fan owned. Any fan with any passion should be mightily pissed off right now. Sorry if I give a shit. If we weren’t fan owned you wouldn’t give a shit though apparently 😂😂😂
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Post by leedsutd234 on Apr 1, 2024 19:41:57 GMT
Is it truly impossible to go up 9 points should get us over the line if results go out way Possibly, but we'll get 4 tops.
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Post by highpeakblue on Apr 1, 2024 19:42:23 GMT
Some of the reactions on here are way over the top.
We have the second best defensive record in the league. We have the joint 6th worst scoring record. It is obvious where our problems lie.
We are not a total disaster, but work is needed to improve us and whether Cal is the man to make those improvements is obviously open to debate, as it is not clear whether he has the tactical nous to make those changes. We will need new personnel next season and we may lose players who we want to keep next season. It could be a big rebuilding job, but it may not be our choice.
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Post by Lon on Apr 1, 2024 19:44:09 GMT
Fan owned brings a toxic atmosphere. Nice fucking troll 😂😂😂😂 losing games to clubs who only get a small fraction of our attendances is what creates the toxic atmosphere as you put it not everyone is happy to watch games at this level season after season Wasn’t me who put toxic atmosphere. Personally I don’t feel the atmosphere is that bad really apart from the people who think we’re some massive club and have a divine right to be out of this league. We don’t even get the highest attendance in this league 😂 It really is laughable
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Post by tooth on Apr 1, 2024 19:45:13 GMT
What gets me is apart from a couple of homes games since what's happened to our home form since we battered Scunthorpe that day at home we looked unstoppable that day apart from the odd occasion that was a definite high point of the season because we gave it everything that day just wish we showed it more often
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Post by weareblues on Apr 1, 2024 19:53:16 GMT
Feel like we missed an opportunity to take advantage of how weak the league is this season could be a long old season next season if likes kidderminster,York Macc & Radcliffe all come into this league + Scunthorpe if they stay down.
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Post by luckyblue on Apr 1, 2024 19:59:08 GMT
Norton for Williams WTAF !!
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Post by yoshimitsu on Apr 1, 2024 20:07:05 GMT
Listening to Seals Live today I just accepted the result before they’d even scored. Two very poor defensive errors (free hits) from what I could make out which is inexcusable. But they also hit the woodwork twice.
So, so disappointing we couldn’t carry on where we left off from Buxton. Proper Chester.
I get the feeling that Cal is too reluctant to evolve and adapt. I’m happy to give him the rest of the year to see what happens. If we get to Christmas and it’s just same old same old then it’s goodbye time I’m afraid. I really hope he can turn us around and have a good start to next season.
As it’s worked out I’m going to both Gloucester and Brackley away and it’s been a while since I’ve been to a game with nothing riding on it.
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Post by The Angry Agenda on Apr 1, 2024 20:07:21 GMT
Is it truly impossible to go up 9 points should get us over the line if results go out way If we scraped into the playoffs, it could be a blessing in disguise That we’d play all our games away from home, and although he’d probably not admit it, I reckon Cal would feel that way too at the moment.
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Post by waggoner on Apr 1, 2024 20:58:39 GMT
Being fan owned brings a toxic atmosphere and attitude towards the club , a lot of people on here believe that they are a chairman and a klopp ... we need to be realistic... we are fan owned we can only spend what we earn ... we are not bank rolled .... we've had a go .. its not worked this year ... if we don't make the play offs , we go again next season ... remember we don't have deep pockets... so many fickle c u next Tuesday s on here Another ‘newbie’ with an agenda
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Apr 1, 2024 21:00:48 GMT
The thought of yet another season in this league is really hard to swallow at the moment . I know we can still make it but it looks unlikely now. We should get a result at Gloucester who are pretty much down . Which would keep the flame burning . I can’t see us getting a result at brackley who are trying for top three . Time wouldn’t allow a trip to the deva today so I opted to watch brackley v Tamworth . On todays showing brackley will be very hard to beat Their style might suite our game ? Be great if we could sneak in but can’t see us winning three which it almost certainly requires . After what is a deflating day let’s leave all other matters until we know for certain where we shall finish this season
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Post by MPW on Apr 1, 2024 21:19:27 GMT
Today was another repeat performance like many games in the past twelve months, even going back to Brackley in the play off defeat. Unfortunately, we've not learnt our lessons at all and we are so one dimensional.
As soon as Alfreton took the lead, you could see what little confidence we had drain out of us. At half time, I thought we might see some reaction similar to Friday, especially considering what was riding on it, but there was very little urgency and it all got very disjointed with some players arguing with each other and others looking like they wanted to be elsewhere.
Whilst I think Gloucester is winnable, I can’t see us beating Brackley or Darlington, so we’ll need a miracle to get into the play offs now.
I believe Cal is contracted for next season and I still think he’s the right man for the job, but I think he needs to have a good think about where it’s all gone wrong this season and look at how the poor recruitment and fitness has been overall.
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