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Post by agl on May 16, 2024 13:42:30 GMT
If we judge Glendon and Weeks as individuals then there's no doubting their talent. However, there's probably only one season where they looked compatible as a pairing and that was the behind closed doors campaign. Weeks had his best season without Glendon, and when Glendon was back last season it seemed to neutralise Weeks as he was undoubtedly playing further back which is not where his strengths lie. Weeks needs to be in and around the area playing the give and go's and getting shots away, not pirouetting on the edge of his area. Roberts played that holding role a lot in the last couple of years and has done well at times, but realistically we need someone with more legs and physicality instead.....not easy to find those kind of players but if you have any chance of getting Glendon and Weeks playing to their maximum whilst in the same starting 11 then it's an absolute must that the holding player has all the necessary attributes to allow them the freedom to go and play. It's a bit lazy to say the same system will maybe see little difference.....we were massively hampered by the full backs last season. They were supposed to give us width but Joel Taylor was a shadow of what he once was, Coates was injured most of the time and when he did play his final delivery was shocking.....our most effective full back was Burke who played out of position and did a better job than both of those I've mentioned but it's not natural to him. We also needs forwards who are going to make better runs and work the channels better, rather than waiting on the toes of a defender and fighting aerial duels....not sure Peers is an intelligent enough footballer to do that but a fit Caton should do better this year and Calum will surely be assessing possible transfers in that area. It's not the system that's the big problem, it's just that you need quality full backs to make it work. Going back to the Mark Wright conference winning team.....Kev McIntyre absolutely quality at that left wing back role in both aspects of the game, Jamie Heard very influential going forwards (not always defensively), and then forwards who could make the ball stick and bring others into play.....it works with the right players. Agree with most of this. I hadn't really thought about the full backs being part of the problem but you are spot on. There was a point during the Brackley away game when we were chasing the game, Heywood got into a great wide position with plenty of time and just sliced the ball in to the crowd behind the goal. Does my head in when players can't do the basics. Presumably Cal doesn't think we area million miles from being a decent side and, on the face of it, it's madness to get rid of a midfielder with that sort of scoring record. But definitely need a ball winner in that midfield now for it to work.
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Post by agl on May 16, 2024 13:46:58 GMT
Jonno said Glendon called them but they couldnāt match the money heās on at Chester. I saw that. Must admit I'm not sure it sits right with me that our club captain was touting himself to B&J which is kind of what Jonno has implied. Don't blame him for having a conversation, would have expected nothing less given the previous relationship between those parties, but I expected that it would have been initiated by B&J rather than the other way around. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, I just thought it was an odd thing for Jonno to come out with - he was being goaded by one of our gimps on Twitter so maybe it's just a bit of tit for tat without loads of substance. Jonno should keep his mouth shut, for once. Not done Glendon any favours with that. Still, good to know that we can compete with Radcliffe Borough on wages. |
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Post by superhans on May 16, 2024 13:52:57 GMT
I think 3-5-2 is how weāll go next season primarily. It's been hinted at a few times. Ideally that would be Pollock, Burke & Williams as three centre backs with Roberts as backup. Woodthorpe first choice left wing back with Heywood as backup and both of those also capable of slotting in to the back three if necessary. Glendon, Weeks, Murray and Daly sharing the front two central midfield positions between them in front of a new holding midfielder with another (perhaps younger) as backup. Depending on the situation can switch the midfield three to two holding and one attacking or one holding and two attacking. Two up front. Need: RB/RWB x2, DM x2, ST x2 + maybe replacements for Williams and Stanway. Agree on the formation, I think it makes sense as most teams at this level and the one above use some variation of it. I'd also add a first choice left back to that list, I like Woodthorpe but not sure he's good enough going forward but has potential, Heywood to me should be a last resort as again I think he really struggles in attacking situations and just generally on the ball at times. It's getting expensive when you think we currently want / need 7 players, make that 9 if Stanway and Williams go. |
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Post by superhans on May 16, 2024 14:01:31 GMT
I saw that. Must admit I'm not sure it sits right with me that our club captain was touting himself to B&J which is kind of what Jonno has implied. Don't blame him for having a conversation, would have expected nothing less given the previous relationship between those parties, but I expected that it would have been initiated by B&J rather than the other way around. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, I just thought it was an odd thing for Jonno to come out with - he was being goaded by one of our gimps on Twitter so maybe it's just a bit of tit for tat without loads of substance. Jonno should keep his mouth shut, for once. Not done Glendon any favours with that. Still, good to know that we can compete with Radcliffe Borough on wages. Yep surprised to see Jonno still can't help himself on Twitter, they'll never make it at a pro club while he does that. Though don't see why some fans feel the need to constantly goad him, they both did their best it just didn't work out. Wouldn't be surprised to see them compete strongly this season based off how well they stormed the NLP. If it's true what he's tweeted though (big if) it does make me all the more surprised that Glendon's been kept on, if budget is as constrained as we're led to believe and the overhaul that's needed |
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Post by noddy on May 16, 2024 14:19:51 GMT
I think 3-5-2 is how weāll go next season primarily. It's been hinted at a few times. Ideally that would be Pollock, Burke & Williams as three centre backs with Roberts as backup. Woodthorpe first choice left wing back with Heywood as backup and both of those also capable of slotting in to the back three if necessary. Glendon, Weeks, Murray and Daly sharing the front two central midfield positions between them in front of a new holding midfielder with another (perhaps younger) as backup. Depending on the situation can switch the midfield three to two holding and one attacking or one holding and two attacking. Two up front. Need: RB/RWB x2, DM x2, ST x2 + maybe replacements for Williams and Stanway. I'd say we need a left back with the ability to get forward with pace as well. Woodthorpe and Heywood are more defensive minded and wouldn't suit a 3 5 2, especially at home. |
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Post by milnerisgod on May 16, 2024 14:20:33 GMT
Re Jonno's Tweet
I think a lot depends on how/when the alleged conversation between Glendon and Jonno came about.
There's a whole world difference between Glendon calling Jonno out of the blue to say 'I'm sick of Chester, make me an offer,' to an out of contract Glendon making sure he's got a job come August by contacting a manager whom he knows rates him. Even if we'd offered him a new contract by that stage, I certainly don't begrudge a player looking to see what could be on the table elsewhere. It's a short career and not particularly well paid at our level and I'd reckon 99% of the people on here would do the same.
Obviously, if it's the first scenario it does raise a few questions. Either way, Jonno once again does himself no favours and comes across as totally unprofessional. I'm sure he's doing it just to big himself and Radcliffe up, but it may make prospective signings think twice before talking to him, knowing that he may out them to their current club. Imagine going for a job interview, knowing that the interviewer will contact your current firm for fun, just to let them know you're on the lookout for a change.
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Post by devadiva on May 16, 2024 15:11:35 GMT
I think all the Weeks/Glendon compatibility points have been made above but for me Glendon is just not a captain. Have posted on this before but we need someone far more vocal, inspirational and willing to roll his sleeves up and muck in. Have always thought it should have been Roberts but if he wonāt always be in the starting line up next season, Cal should look elsewhere - maybe the new 6ā4ā CDM we all think we need.
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Post by weareblues on May 16, 2024 15:24:23 GMT
I think all the Weeks/Glendon compatibility points have been made above but for me Glendon is just not a captain. Have posted on this before but we need someone far more vocal, inspirational and willing to roll his sleeves up and muck in. Have always thought it should have been Roberts but if he wonāt always be in the starting line up next season, Cal should look elsewhere - maybe the new 6ā4ā CDM we all think we need. Spot on this Over the years weāve been too lightweight we need some horrible shithouses in the team proper leaders |
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Post by brooklaneblue on May 16, 2024 15:36:16 GMT
Fantastic news Our top scorer signed for another year. Spare a thought for 1PaulCarden. š Spare a thought for our fanbase as we wonāt go up with him as captain. Unfortunately Mr Carden could be right on the money, just for clarity Glendon at this level is a good footballer but not a captain. Looking forward to seeing Glendon and Weeks spend hours passing the ball to each other in our half while we are one nil down. |
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Post by martyntrumpcaster on May 16, 2024 15:41:15 GMT
Good player, so I'm happy he's re-signed. Shame about the Johnno tweets business but he's managing a rival team now so we'll have to deal with it.
On the pitch Glendon's not an obvious captain but as long as we've got leaders on the pitch I don't care who's wearing the armband.
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Post by Lobster on May 16, 2024 15:54:04 GMT
No questioning his quality or commitment, and really he did exceptionally well last season considering he'd had 12 months out.
Just a bit of a concern that we're keeping the fulcrum of a team that ultimately hasn't got out of this division yet. Glendon has been here for a long time now and is the sort of player you build a team around, but we're still in the NLN, and coincidentally or not, the closest we came to getting out was the season where he didn't kick a ball.
Really, I think we're going to need a prolific striker if we're keeping the midfield largely intact, but they don't grow on trees. We'll wait and see who we sign.
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Post by agl on May 16, 2024 17:13:13 GMT
22 goal involvements in 47 games. Wow. Weāre so lucky What's a "goal involvement"? |
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Post by Moltisanti on May 16, 2024 17:18:50 GMT
22 goal involvements in 47 games. Wow. Weāre so lucky What's a "goal involvement"? You really need me to explain that? |
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Post by rhodri on May 16, 2024 17:21:00 GMT
We have to remember that Jonno is now a rival manager in the same league, who may be purposely playing a few mind games, and might still have a bit of a chip on his shoulder about how things finished here. I'd take it with a pinch of salt
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Post by Jack on May 16, 2024 17:37:15 GMT
You just absolutely LOVE to see it.
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Post by miltongraham on May 16, 2024 17:47:52 GMT
Great signing. Personally, I don't even see it as that big of a call. One of our better players and top scorer in what was a generally poorly performing team last season. A generally poorly performing team of which we seem to be resigning many , Glendon and weeks are both two of our better players hampered by tactics . Macintyre has to sort out the best way these two can play together , Something he failed to do last season. |
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Post by bryndjones on May 16, 2024 18:19:22 GMT
Play a big nasty brute next to GG and he will make hay. Delighted to see him sign for another year. He was our best player before Christmas and a proper pre season will do him the world of good.
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Post by Harry Lime on May 16, 2024 19:10:10 GMT
Formation will be interesting next season. Personally I'm hoping it's not a diamond midfield again. Not many sides play that, mainly due to the limitations we saw last season.
Like a few posters I can see us going 352. Although more teams further up the pyramid are going 343.
If we are to play a back four I'd prefer the 4231.
You need the 2 wide players to be mobile and a goal threat, like Liverpool or Arsenal, rather than using midfield players. Goal threats rather than controlling players.
It's a bit like the difference between a 532 and 352. It all depends on your type of wing backs and their starting positions.
As the signings come in we should get an idea of likely formations.
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Post by chesterken on May 16, 2024 20:19:08 GMT
Jonno has already backtracked a little by saying George declined to join them and stay with us so for me that draws a line under any criticism of him for me, as for the squad and likely team for next season ,thatās Calumās job not mine. We have a few additions to come in yet and no one knows what the final squad will look like so perhaps we need to stop with the knee jerk reactions and just wait to see what the final squad will look like when the season starts.
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Post by noddy on May 16, 2024 20:29:49 GMT
Jonno has already backtracked a little by saying George declined to join them and stay with us so for me that draws a line under any criticism of him for me, as for the squad and likely team for next season ,thatās Calumās job not mine. We have a few additions to come in yet and no one knows what the final squad will look like so perhaps we need to stop with the knee jerk reactions and just wait to see what the final squad will look like when the season starts. True Ken and fair points. Wouldn't call them knee jerk reactions though, just opinions and discussions on a fans forum. The team, squad and Callum will be judged after a minimum of 10 league games which should give us an idea regarding the players, shape and the style of football. |
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Post by Imperial on May 16, 2024 21:32:16 GMT
22 goal involvements in 47 games. Wow. Weāre so lucky What's a "goal involvement"? Scored or assisted. |
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Post by agl on May 17, 2024 5:42:47 GMT
What's a "goal involvement"? You really need me to explain that? What I'm saying is it's a bit of a nothing term isn't it? If a keeper punts a long ball and it bounces through to a forward that's an involvement/ assist. If a player does nothing for 90 minutes then puts in a cross leading to a consolation goal, ditto. You have to look a bit deeper. The issue with Glendon is surely whether him and Weeks can work in the same side. I tend to think they can if we recruit an enforcer. Games I've seen, they struggle when it becomes a scrap against so called lesser teams, or on poor pitches. Maybe away from home in those games they don't both play. |
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Post by Harry Lime on May 17, 2024 6:45:03 GMT
There's an interesting aspect to the fact that Glendon has re-signed.
We have to assume that there was little or no interest from clubs in a higher division who would have paid more. Oldham, York, Fylde, maybe Scunthorpe etc. On paper you have a midfield player who has scored double figures. He is 29 so maybe age was the issue? Maybe they don't see him as being an upgrade?
I just find it interesting he maybe didn't get many (any?) clubs wanting to sign him. Some of us have a tendency to over inflate some of our players ability, and others can be overly critical.
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Post by blue4life on May 17, 2024 7:08:36 GMT
Jono is a grade A idiot and its cringe to see so many Chester fans arse licking upto him. As for Glendon, great signing.
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Post by Anders on May 17, 2024 8:30:57 GMT
I think 3-5-2 is how weāll go next season primarily. It's been hinted at a few times. Ideally that would be Pollock, Burke & Williams as three centre backs with Roberts as backup. Woodthorpe first choice left wing back with Heywood as backup and both of those also capable of slotting in to the back three if necessary. Glendon, Weeks, Murray and Daly sharing the front two central midfield positions between them in front of a new holding midfielder with another (perhaps younger) as backup. Depending on the situation can switch the midfield three to two holding and one attacking or one holding and two attacking. Two up front. Need: RB/RWB x2, DM x2, ST x2 + maybe replacements for Williams and Stanway. I'd say we need a left back with the ability to get forward with pace as well. Woodthorpe and Heywood are more defensive minded and wouldn't suit a 3 5 2, especially at home. Shane has tweeted an update after a chat with Cal. We're after a right back, two holding mids and three forwards it looks like. Woodthorpe is first choice then going by that. |
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Post by noddy on May 17, 2024 9:15:27 GMT
I'd say we need a left back with the ability to get forward with pace as well. Woodthorpe and Heywood are more defensive minded and wouldn't suit a 3 5 2, especially at home. Shane has tweeted an update after a chat with Cal. We're after a right back, two holding mids and three forwards it looks like. Woodthorpe is first choice then going by that. I don't mind Woodthorpe, decent and solid and will do a good job, especially away from home. At home though, didn't look particularly comfortable as a typical wingback in the 3 5 2 formation, guess time will tell. The three forwards part is interesting though, maybe one or both of Peers and Caton could be moving on? |
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on May 17, 2024 9:45:53 GMT
Interesting that it doesn't mention a keeper? Maybe Stanway willing to renew?
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Post by Harry Lime on May 17, 2024 10:09:53 GMT
Interesting that it doesn't mention a keeper? Maybe Stanway willing to renew? He didn't mention a centre half either. So I'm assuming he's not including Williams or Stanway replacements in the numbers. He can't until they decide whether to accept the contract offers. |
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Post by inthestand on May 17, 2024 10:50:53 GMT
There's an interesting aspect to the fact that Glendon has re-signed. We have to assume that there was little or no interest from clubs in a higher division who would have paid more. Oldham, York, Fylde, maybe Scunthorpe etc. On paper you have a midfield player who has scored double figures. He is 29 so maybe age was the issue? Maybe they don't see him as being an upgrade? I just find it interesting he maybe didn't get many (any?) clubs wanting to sign him. Some of us have a tendency to over inflate some of our players ability, and others can be overly critical. Letās be honest..Glendon is slightly above average in this league , good squad player and his career statistics suggest this is his level , but we need better if we are to make a serious challenge for promotionā¦to have won this league this time we would have needed an extra 28 pts which is massiveā¦we really need to get serious in our midfieldā¦and get a lot more quality all round.. |
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Post by cmbwa on May 17, 2024 11:28:42 GMT
Great news
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