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Post by Harry Lime on Jun 25, 2024 12:30:51 GMT
Has Southgate commented if he is leaving his position after the Euros have finished or if he is staying in charge for the next World Cup? He suggested a while back he might leave after the Euros if we didn't win it. He may just have been fishing to see what offers he might get. I'd be surprised if he got a big club wanting him, unless it was abroad. There does seem to be a job rotation programme for the established managers. Most fans wouldn't want him at their club. The better sides now play an aggressive front foot game to win the ball back quickly. That's not really his style though.
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Post by Eddie Gray's left foot on Jun 25, 2024 12:31:57 GMT
Looked a penalty to me. Stuart Armstrong was clever in getting his body in front of the defender and he was clearly caught. Imagine the outcry if a ref from Argentina doesn't give that to England. Having said that Scotland didn't deserve to go through over the three games. Zero attacking threat. Arguably they were too passive last night but Clarke must know that if they'd gone behind there was little chance of scoring 2 to win. Understandably he was cautious until the last 20 minutes. They've got to find a goal scorer or it will continue to be a struggle. Yes 100% a penalty.
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Post by Eddie Gray's left foot on Jun 25, 2024 12:39:07 GMT
Wharton has played something like 13 games in the Premier League. Mainoo has only broken into a poor United team this year. At the start of the season they were both playing for England under 19s. Gallagher is Chelsea's player of the season; their fans love him. He isn't absolutely top class, but he works his socks off, is defensively sound, and his creative stats last season were right up there. As a like for like replacement to Phillips he's the obvious option, and will be better than anything the opposition have on the pitch tonight. There's another completely different argument about what the best formation to play is, but for this particular positional choice it's ludicrous to suggest Southgate is 'clueless'. Have a day off it’s Southgate’s constant negative tactics & Repetitive team selections that’ve cost us He’s probably got the best England team in 15-20 years and still he hasn’t a clue who to play other than his favourites. Throwing TAA into the deep end in a position he’s not really played often for England when we’ve got players that have played that role and been fantastic all season missing out… Agree totally with all your points.
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Post by nytram on Jun 25, 2024 13:35:18 GMT
In all his term he hasn't found a system or players to score for England apart from Kane. That is the root of the problem. He has relied on Kane so much even giving him captain status. When doing so he also employed him in a one forward attack. I would like to see Kane dropped from all game starts and then brought on as a sub as Vardy does now for his team. After 57 kane goals are rashford and sterling in the teens. Plus from day one I think everyone knew he would concentrate on defending. That's fine but surely he would employ backroom staff to give guidance to forward play. Maybe it's the backroom staff we should be blaming. Anyway onwards and upwards.
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Post by vandycandy on Jun 25, 2024 14:53:06 GMT
Has Southgate commented if he is leaving his position after the Euros have finished or if he is staying in charge for the next World Cup? He suggested a while back he might leave after the Euros if we didn't win it. He may just have been fishing to see what offers he might get. I'd be surprised if he got a big club wanting him, unless it was abroad. There does seem to be a job rotation programme for the established managers. Most fans wouldn't want him at their club. The better sides now play an aggressive front foot game to win the ball back quickly. That's not really his style though. Doubt he'll want to leave, imagine he'll be receiving a fairly hefty pay packet as England boss. It's also doubtful anyone in the prem would take him.
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Post by Imperial on Jun 25, 2024 15:50:47 GMT
In all his term he hasn't found a system or players to score for England apart from Kane. That is the root of the problem. He has relied on Kane so much even giving him captain status. When doing so he also employed him in a one forward attack. I would like to see Kane dropped from all game starts and then brought on as a sub as Vardy does now for his team. After 57 kane goals are rashford and sterling in the teens. Plus from day one I think everyone knew he would concentrate on defending. That's fine but surely he would employ backroom staff to give guidance to forward play. Maybe it's the backroom staff we should be blaming. Anyway onwards and upwards. You want to drop arguably the best striker in the world?
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Post by Curva Nord on Jun 25, 2024 16:57:32 GMT
On average in tournaments he scores a goal every other game.
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Post by Lon on Jun 25, 2024 17:44:13 GMT
Kane has had one bad game where he wasn’t the only one ffs 😂
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Post by vandycandy on Jun 25, 2024 17:56:40 GMT
Holland vs Austria surely game of the tournament so far. Austria are an absolute delight to watch.
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Post by tooth on Jun 25, 2024 18:25:17 GMT
Holland vs Austria surely game of the tournament so far. Austria are an absolute delight to watch. backed Austria to win the group £3.00 at 7-1
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Post by agl on Jun 25, 2024 18:26:13 GMT
In all his term he hasn't found a system or players to score for England apart from Kane. That is the root of the problem. He has relied on Kane so much even giving him captain status. When doing so he also employed him in a one forward attack. I would like to see Kane dropped from all game starts and then brought on as a sub as Vardy does now for his team. After 57 kane goals are rashford and sterling in the teens. Plus from day one I think everyone knew he would concentrate on defending. That's fine but surely he would employ backroom staff to give guidance to forward play. Maybe it's the backroom staff we should be blaming. Anyway onwards and upwards. You want to drop arguably the best striker in the world? Kane would start for every team in this tournament.
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Post by tooth on Jun 25, 2024 18:26:50 GMT
In all his term he hasn't found a system or players to score for England apart from Kane. That is the root of the problem. He has relied on Kane so much even giving him captain status. When doing so he also employed him in a one forward attack. I would like to see Kane dropped from all game starts and then brought on as a sub as Vardy does now for his team. After 57 kane goals are rashford and sterling in the teens. Plus from day one I think everyone knew he would concentrate on defending. That's fine but surely he would employ backroom staff to give guidance to forward play. Maybe it's the backroom staff we should be blaming. Anyway onwards and upwards. I would agree with all what you said until you said drop kane if they do that who scores
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Post by vandycandy on Jun 25, 2024 18:27:10 GMT
Holland vs Austria surely game of the tournament so far. Austria are an absolute delight to watch. backed Austria to win the group £3.00 at 7-1 Not a bad shout. Not a betting man but how much would you stand to win?
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Post by tooth on Jun 25, 2024 18:42:11 GMT
backed Austria to win the group £3.00 at 7-1 Not a bad shout. Not a betting man but how much would you stand to win? 24 quid you sound sensible not gambling its bad for you
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Post by nytram on Jun 25, 2024 18:59:19 GMT
In all his term he hasn't found a system or players to score for England apart from Kane. That is the root of the problem. He has relied on Kane so much even giving him captain status. When doing so he also employed him in a one forward attack. I would like to see Kane dropped from all game starts and then brought on as a sub as Vardy does now for his team. After 57 kane goals are rashford and sterling in the teens. Plus from day one I think everyone knew he would concentrate on defending. That's fine but surely he would employ backroom staff to give guidance to forward play. Maybe it's the backroom staff we should be blaming. Anyway onwards and upwards. I would agree with all what you said until you said drop kane if they do that who scores That is my whole point. Southgate should have sorted out another player/s to play alongside Kane years ago. He hasn't and now he plays him by himself upfront. OK he scores goals but usually via set plays which is on what Southgate depends for his team to score goals.
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Post by noddy on Jun 25, 2024 19:58:37 GMT
Slow and pedestrian again first half, such a hard watch. Only Foden that's looked a threat going forward.
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Post by yoshimitsu on Jun 25, 2024 19:58:45 GMT
This midfield still isn’t working. Kane and Saka and a proper left winger type needed up front (Gordon?)
If you want to play Foden and Bellingham play the former up and the latter alongside Rice.
Or drop one of Foden/Bellingham.
Bellingham looks knackered to me.
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Post by Lobster on Jun 25, 2024 20:01:26 GMT
They're a hard team to love, aren't they?
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Post by weareblues on Jun 25, 2024 20:56:17 GMT
Shocking performance not surprised with that div in charge Only player worth talking about was Mainoo solid performance from him
Gallagher piss poor
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Post by tooth on Jun 25, 2024 21:00:11 GMT
Good job they are not in Spain or Holland group cos Austria would of beat them another poor display but people justify it cos they have won the group only because the other teams are not very good
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Post by welshrover on Jun 25, 2024 21:00:21 GMT
Sat having a few piva in a bar in Belgrade, obviously the game of choice on the TV is Serbia Denmark. Not a great deal happened in that game either.
So the first round pretty much over, favourites Spain / Portugal or Austria?
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Post by tooth on Jun 25, 2024 21:00:47 GMT
Shocking performance not surprised with that div in charge Only player worth talking about was Mainoo solid performance from him Gallagher piss poor palmer and mainoo last 16 should start
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Post by Lon on Jun 25, 2024 21:03:54 GMT
Holland vs Austria surely game of the tournament so far. Austria are an absolute delight to watch. backed Austria to win the group £3.00 at 7-1 Don’t spend it all at once!
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Post by Lon on Jun 25, 2024 21:05:15 GMT
Top of the group on the easy side of the draw and have stunk out the gaff every game. We’re shithousing this tournament aren’t we 🤞🏻
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Post by noddy on Jun 25, 2024 21:12:21 GMT
Top of the group on the easy side of the draw and have stunk out the gaff every game. We’re shithousing this tournament aren’t we 🤞🏻 Like watching a Call Mac side at home last season, should be used to the set up and tactics.
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Post by tooth on Jun 25, 2024 21:16:29 GMT
backed Austria to win the group £3.00 at 7-1 Don’t spend it all at once! already spent
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Post by Lobster on Jun 25, 2024 21:17:00 GMT
Sat having a few piva in a bar in Belgrade, obviously the game of choice on the TV is Serbia Denmark. Not a great deal happened in that game either. So the first round pretty much over, favourites Spain / Portugal or Austria? Enjoyed Belgrade when I went a couple of years ago. Bit of an odd place, everyone seems a bit angry at you, but at the same time it feels very safe. Enjoy the cheap pivo!
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Post by tooth on Jun 25, 2024 21:17:03 GMT
Sat having a few piva in a bar in Belgrade, obviously the game of choice on the TV is Serbia Denmark. Not a great deal happened in that game either. So the first round pretty much over, favourites Spain / Portugal or Austria? Switzerland playing well too
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Post by Lobster on Jun 25, 2024 21:18:37 GMT
Don’t spend it all at once! already spent Whacked it straight on an England win? 😄
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Post by vandycandy on Jun 25, 2024 21:22:57 GMT
Mainoo for me is head & shoulders above Gallagher, Palmer much more of a threat than Saka & Gordon looked good for the 3 or 4 minutes he was given. Another dreadful performance but I think we all expected it.
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