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Post by welshrover on Jul 29, 2024 23:04:04 GMT
Winter fuel payment stopped for everyone who has worked hard all their life and tried to put a bit aside.
Obviously the benefit heads still get it along with all the other freebies.
The next five years is going to be a disaster unless you are on benefits or a dinghy.
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Post by Lobster on Jul 29, 2024 23:07:36 GMT
Winter fuel payment stopped for everyone who has worked hard all their life and tried to put a bit aside. Obviously the benefit heads still get it along with all the other freebies. The next five years is going to be a disaster unless you are on benefits or a dinghy. Winter fuel payment IS a benefit. God forbid money goes to people who need it instead of people who don't. |
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Post by welshrover on Jul 29, 2024 23:22:32 GMT
Winter fuel payment stopped for everyone who has worked hard all their life and tried to put a bit aside. Obviously the benefit heads still get it along with all the other freebies. The next five years is going to be a disaster unless you are on benefits or a dinghy. Winter fuel payment IS a benefit. God forbid money goes to people who need it instead of people who don't. Give us a break mate, there is a thin line between surviving on a pension not being eligible for benefits and those on benefits who also get all the gateway benefits, teeth, eyes, council tax subsidy etc etc. It makes you wonder why you contributed all your life whilst some twat who has never done a hands turn gets everything handed on a plate. |
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Post by bing on Jul 30, 2024 14:32:36 GMT
Winter fuel payment IS a benefit. God forbid money goes to people who need it instead of people who don't. Give us a break mate, there is a thin line between surviving on a pension not being eligible for benefits and those on benefits who also get all the gateway benefits, teeth, eyes, council tax subsidy etc etc. It makes you wonder why you contributed all your life whilst some twat who has never done a hands turn gets everything handed on a plate. You've admitted in the OP that you have put money aside, yet still want extra benefits - yet in your last post derided people who want things "handed on a plate". Isn't that hypocritical? |
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Post by 1paulcarden on Jul 30, 2024 15:32:25 GMT
Give us a break mate, there is a thin line between surviving on a pension not being eligible for benefits and those on benefits who also get all the gateway benefits, teeth, eyes, council tax subsidy etc etc. It makes you wonder why you contributed all your life whilst some twat who has never done a hands turn gets everything handed on a plate. You've admitted in the OP that you have put money aside, yet still want extra benefits - yet in your last post derided people who want things "handed on a plate". Isn't that hypocritical? Their generation cannot understand that you need to punch up not down. Also, abundant job market and very affordable housing market must have been hell. |
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Post by welshrover on Jul 30, 2024 17:28:43 GMT
Give us a break mate, there is a thin line between surviving on a pension not being eligible for benefits and those on benefits who also get all the gateway benefits, teeth, eyes, council tax subsidy etc etc. It makes you wonder why you contributed all your life whilst some twat who has never done a hands turn gets everything handed on a plate. You've admitted in the OP that you have put money aside, yet still want extra benefits - yet in your last post derided people who want things "handed on a plate". Isn't that hypocritical? So you think "professional scroungers" are good for the country? Pay nothing in, take everything out. |
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Post by Moltisanti on Jul 30, 2024 17:40:30 GMT
Tory Tears. 🥰
Love it.
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Post by bing on Jul 30, 2024 19:11:30 GMT
You've admitted in the OP that you have put money aside, yet still want extra benefits - yet in your last post derided people who want things "handed on a plate". Isn't that hypocritical? So you think "professional scroungers" are good for the country? Pay nothing in, take everything out. No, benefit scroungers are not good for the country. Neither are wealthy tax evaders, which costs the treasury far more. It's not always the fault of the poor. The point is, people should receive benefits which are due to them. You started this post and scored a spectacular own goal by basically demonstrating exactly why the government has changed the legislation. |
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Post by theshed1 on Jul 30, 2024 19:26:30 GMT
and this is another excerpt from her speech "And she insisted Home Secretary Yvette Cooper's plan to allow migrants to claim asylum - even if they crossed the Channel in a small boat - will save cash." is she for real all they will do is claim benefits so how does that save cash and lets not forget for everyone granted asylum their will be at least 10 other "family members" entitled to come over
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Post by Lobster on Jul 30, 2024 22:06:49 GMT
and this is another excerpt from her speech "And she insisted Home Secretary Yvette Cooper's plan to allow migrants to claim asylum - even if they crossed the Channel in a small boat - will save cash." is she for real all they will do is claim benefits so how does that save cash and lets not forget for everyone granted asylum their will be at least 10 other "family members" entitled to come over Because they're here anyway if they arrive illegally so there's a cost involved in processing claims, housing them temporarily, deporting them etc, and because we keep putting up barriers we're just driving the whole thing further underground and making it harder and more expensive to manage. If we displayed a grown-up attitude to the asylum situation we could make it easier to control, but all politicians seem to want to do is point at boats and get everyone angry about them, and that's why you've got a load of prats with Spam for brains behaving the way they are in Southport tonight. |
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Post by yoshimitsu on Jul 31, 2024 5:51:29 GMT
This situation is much bigger than what is happening with boats on the south coast.
The world’s population is continuing to grow at an unsupportable rate. There will be a never ending, and increasingly growing number of people who have had the misfortune to be born in an underdeveloped country who wish to seek a better life and will risk it all in an attempt to achieve this.
As far as I can see, there is no ‘fix’ to this issue and it was ever thus.
I’m not sure many people really appreciate how messed up this planet is and how the next hundred years will only bring an increasing range of disasters.
Without getting too depressed about it all, all I can do is make the most of what time I have and enjoy the footy.
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Post by Churton Blue on Jul 31, 2024 11:13:59 GMT
You've admitted in the OP that you have put money aside, yet still want extra benefits - yet in your last post derided people who want things "handed on a plate". Isn't that hypocritical? Their generation cannot understand that you need to punch up not down. Also, abundant job market and very affordable housing market must have been hell. There was mass unemployment in the 70’s and 80’s so a lot of people in the 65 to 75 age group would have suffered from that. Also mortgage rates were sky high in the 80’s so you may have bought a house at an affordable price but not be able to afford the repayments. Repossession rates were very high. No point in setting one generation against another. If anybody thinks you can live on £11,400 per annum then they inhabit a different planet to me. |
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Post by Curva Nord on Jul 31, 2024 12:39:09 GMT
Tbf, the people who like and want illegal immigrants, should be the ones to house and pay for them.
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Post by weareblues on Jul 31, 2024 13:53:47 GMT
The Government, Police and Media have a lot to answer
Media cause so much shit it’s unbelievable any excuse to brand anyone patriotic about their own countries problems ‘far right’
Yet praise and have nothing bad to say when ANTIFA & Pro Palestine activists storm the streets throwing their political views about.
People are fed up of how shit it’s become to live in the UK the tories obviously to blame for majority the bullshit going on
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Post by Lobster on Jul 31, 2024 14:12:20 GMT
The Government, Police and Media have a lot to answer Media cause so much shit it’s unbelievable any excuse to brand anyone patriotic about their own countries problems ‘far right’ Yet praise and have nothing bad to say when ANTIFA & Pro Palestine activists storm the streets throwing their political views about. People are fed up of how shit it’s become to live in the UK the tories obviously to blame for majority the bullshit going on "Throwing your political views around" is a right in this country. Trashing mosques, setting fire to police cars and injuring 40 police officers isn't. Yes, I know there are some incidents on Pro-Palestine and ANTIFA marches, but the majority go to be peaceful. The people in Southport last night had no interest in the community or what happened, they went there as an excuse to riot and that fuckwit "Tommy Robinson" encouraged it. If you want to defend it as "patriotism", good luck to you. |
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Post by weareblues on Jul 31, 2024 14:27:46 GMT
The Government, Police and Media have a lot to answer Media cause so much shit it’s unbelievable any excuse to brand anyone patriotic about their own countries problems ‘far right’ Yet praise and have nothing bad to say when ANTIFA & Pro Palestine activists storm the streets throwing their political views about. People are fed up of how shit it’s become to live in the UK the tories obviously to blame for majority the bullshit going on "Throwing your political views around" is a right in this country. Trashing mosques, setting fire to police cars and injuring 40 police officers isn't. Yes, I know there are some incidents on Pro-Palestine and ANTIFA marches, but the majority go to be peaceful. The people in Southport last night had no interest in the community or what happened, they went there as an excuse to riot and that fuckwit "Tommy Robinson" encouraged it. If you want to defend it as "patriotism", good luck to you. I don’t agree with what happened last night in Southport however there was none of this outrage last week when the Leeds riots were going on and was getting burnt down ? Jewish people can’t even walk the streets of London without getting attacked by Palestine activists Soldiers getting stabbed in their barracks And yet the media won’t report on it yet happy to make articles branding people that had nothing to do with the riots as ‘Far Right’ because their sticking up for their own countries issues. The countries a serious mess and whilst don’t agree with how Tommy goes around getting his message about someone needs to step up and speak up. |
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Post by Lobster on Jul 31, 2024 16:06:52 GMT
"Throwing your political views around" is a right in this country. Trashing mosques, setting fire to police cars and injuring 40 police officers isn't. Yes, I know there are some incidents on Pro-Palestine and ANTIFA marches, but the majority go to be peaceful. The people in Southport last night had no interest in the community or what happened, they went there as an excuse to riot and that fuckwit "Tommy Robinson" encouraged it. If you want to defend it as "patriotism", good luck to you. I don’t agree with what happened last night in Southport however there was none of this outrage last week when the Leeds riots were going on and was getting burnt down ? Jewish people can’t even walk the streets of London without getting attacked by Palestine activists Soldiers getting stabbed in their barracks And yet the media won’t report on it yet happy to make articles branding people that had nothing to do with the riots as ‘Far Right’ because their sticking up for their own countries issues. The countries a serious mess and whilst don’t agree with how Tommy goes around getting his message about someone needs to step up and speak up. I've seen plenty of coverage of all the things you mention. They're being branded "far-right" because it's spearheaded by people on the far-right. Farage is speculating that the attack was terror related and the police are lying. How does he know that? He's just looked at the guy's name and made an assumption. Tommy Robinson is telling people to riot so they get listened to. It's disgusting. These people have no interest in Southport or what happened to those poor girls. They're just looking for aggro. They're the reason ordinary people are uncomfortable with English and British patriotism. Still, at least one of them got a brick in the bollocks. |
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Post by avfo on Jul 31, 2024 16:54:34 GMT
I don’t agree with what happened last night in Southport however there was none of this outrage last week when the Leeds riots were going on and was getting burnt down ? Jewish people can’t even walk the streets of London without getting attacked by Palestine activists Soldiers getting stabbed in their barracks And yet the media won’t report on it yet happy to make articles branding people that had nothing to do with the riots as ‘Far Right’ because their sticking up for their own countries issues. The countries a serious mess and whilst don’t agree with how Tommy goes around getting his message about someone needs to step up and speak up. I've seen plenty of coverage of all the things you mention. They're being branded "far-right" because it's spearheaded by people on the far-right. Farage is speculating that the attack was terror related and the police are lying. How does he know that? He's just looked at the guy's name and made an assumption. Tommy Robinson is telling people to riot so they get listened to. It's disgusting. These people have no interest in Southport or what happened to those poor girls. They're just looking for aggro. They're the reason ordinary people are uncomfortable with English and British patriotism.
Still, at least one of them got a brick in the bollocks. |
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Post by Moltisanti on Jul 31, 2024 18:36:49 GMT
I don’t agree with what happened last night in Southport however there was none of this outrage last week when the Leeds riots were going on and was getting burnt down ? Jewish people can’t even walk the streets of London without getting attacked by Palestine activists Soldiers getting stabbed in their barracks And yet the media won’t report on it yet happy to make articles branding people that had nothing to do with the riots as ‘Far Right’ because their sticking up for their own countries issues. The countries a serious mess and whilst don’t agree with how Tommy goes around getting his message about someone needs to step up and speak up. I've seen plenty of covering of all the things you mention. They're being branded "far-right" because it's spearheaded by people on the far-right. Farage is speculating that the attack was terror related and the police are lying. How does he know that? He's just looked at the guy's name and made an assumption. Tommy Robinson is telling people to riot so they get listened to. It's disgusting. These people have no interest in Southport or what happened to those poor girls. They're just looking for aggro. They're the reason ordinary people are uncomfortable with English and British patriotism. Still, at least one of them got a brick in the bollocks. Spot on. Braindead idiots thinking ‘Tommy Robinson’ is the voice of reason says it all about the state of this country. Imagine calling someone ‘Tommy’ when his name is Stephen Yaxley Lennon. How degrading for a grown man. An Irishman who lives in Spain most of the year scrounging money off said braindead idiots. He doesn’t give a fuck about anyone but his bank balance, wanker. |
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Post by 1paulcarden on Jul 31, 2024 18:48:12 GMT
Their generation cannot understand that you need to punch up not down. Also, abundant job market and very affordable housing market must have been hell. There was mass unemployment in the 70’s and 80’s so a lot of people in the 65 to 75 age group would have suffered from that. Also mortgage rates were sky high in the 80’s so you may have bought a house at an affordable price but not be able to afford the repayments. Repossession rates were very high. No point in setting one generation against another. If anybody thinks you can live on £11,400 per annum then they inhabit a different planet to me. Yeah, classic Boomer crap. Moments of mass unemployment and high interest rates (on houses that were comparatively cheap). 1980 Average Salary: £6,000 Average House Price: £22,676 2023 Average Salary: £29,600 Average House Price: £288,000 So house prices have gone up by 1170% yet wages have only risen by 393%. For a final figure, to have the same level of income as the average person in 1980 you would need to earn £76,210 a year. |
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Post by theshed1 on Jul 31, 2024 19:25:13 GMT
There was mass unemployment in the 70’s and 80’s so a lot of people in the 65 to 75 age group would have suffered from that. Also mortgage rates were sky high in the 80’s so you may have bought a house at an affordable price but not be able to afford the repayments. Repossession rates were very high. No point in setting one generation against another. If anybody thinks you can live on £11,400 per annum then they inhabit a different planet to me. Moments of mass unemployment and high interest rates (on houses that were comparatively cheap). 1980 Average Salary: £6,000 Average House Price: £22,676 2023 Average Salary: £29,600 Average House Price: £288,000 So house prices have gone up by 1170% yet wages have only risen by 393%. For a final figure, to have the same level of income as the average person in 1980 you would need to earn £76,210 a year. Is it the "living Wage" set by the government is to go up to £11.44 which for a 35hr week is £20,000+ yet anyone recieving above £11,343 cannot get pension credit and now has lost winter fuel allowance as well can you explain that |
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Post by 1paulcarden on Jul 31, 2024 19:29:37 GMT
Yeah, classic Boomer crap. Moments of mass unemployment and high interest rates (on houses that were comparatively cheap). 1980 Average Salary: £6,000 Average House Price: £22,676 2023 Average Salary: £29,600 Average House Price: £288,000 So house prices have gone up by 1170% yet wages have only risen by 393%. For a final figure, to have the same level of income as the average person in 1980 you would need to earn £76,210 a year. Is it the "living Wage" set by the government is to go up to £11.44 which for a 35hr week is £20,000+ yet anyone recieving above £11,343 cannot get pension credit and now has lost winter fuel allowance as well can you explain that Does that person earning £20,000 own a home or are they able to afford rent on that basis? I’ll give you clue, they don’t spend it all on iPhones and avocados. |
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Post by theshed1 on Jul 31, 2024 19:52:45 GMT
Is it the "living Wage" set by the government is to go up to £11.44 which for a 35hr week is £20,000+ yet anyone recieving above £11,343 cannot get pension credit and now has lost winter fuel allowance as well can you explain that Does that person earning £20,000 own a home or are they able to afford rent on that basis? I’ll give you clue, they don’t spend it all on iPhones and avocados. Does the pensioner on £11,343 own a home or are they able to afford rent I'll give you a clue they choose whether to eat or keep warm |
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Post by 1paulcarden on Jul 31, 2024 20:08:09 GMT
Does that person earning £20,000 own a home or are they able to afford rent on that basis? I’ll give you clue, they don’t spend it all on iPhones and avocados. Does the pensioner on £11,343 own a home or are they able to afford rent I'll give you a clue they choose whether to eat or keep warm Given the house prices and job market they experienced throughout their life you’d like to think so. Appreciate it doesn’t always work out that way. |
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Post by Lobster on Jul 31, 2024 20:24:45 GMT
Not sure different age groups getting angry at each other is helpful.
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Post by theshed1 on Jul 31, 2024 20:43:52 GMT
Not sure different age groups getting angry at each other is helpful. I don't think we are getting angry with each other we are just putting out our opinions, what I am angry at is how this government is treating its senior citizens we are not all millionaires |
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Post by welshrover on Jul 31, 2024 21:43:46 GMT
Not sure different age groups getting angry at each other is helpful. I don't think we are getting angry with each other we are just putting out our opinions, what I am angry at is how this government is treating its senior citizens we are not all millionaires Perhaps Starmer wants to cull UK senior citizens to make more room for the boat people, and I don't mean Bithells! |
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Post by Churton Blue on Jul 31, 2024 21:46:22 GMT
There was mass unemployment in the 70’s and 80’s so a lot of people in the 65 to 75 age group would have suffered from that. Also mortgage rates were sky high in the 80’s so you may have bought a house at an affordable price but not be able to afford the repayments. Repossession rates were very high. No point in setting one generation against another. If anybody thinks you can live on £11,400 per annum then they inhabit a different planet to me. Yeah, classic Boomer crap. Moments of mass unemployment and high interest rates (on houses that were comparatively cheap). 1980 Average Salary: £6,000 Average House Price: £22,676 2023 Average Salary: £29,600 Average House Price: £288,000 So house prices have gone up by 1170% yet wages have only risen by 393%. For a final figure, to have the same level of income as the average person in 1980 you would need to earn £76,210 a year. Sadly you clearly have very little grasp of the economic and social reality and history of post 1945 Britain. Simply comparing average house prices against average wages does not give your argument any validity for making sweeping generalisations about everyone born between certain years being well off. Insulting to literally millions of people who struggle to make ends meet on a state pension. Been a Labour Party member for 43 years but sad to see Rachel Reeves making relatively poor people pay the price for Tory incompetence. |
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Post by Lobster on Aug 1, 2024 14:21:47 GMT
Lee Anderson tweeting that there were illegal migrants in his local Travelodge. Turns out they were NHS staff.
He's just seen people with brown skin and made a racist assumption. Shame on anyone who voted for him. He's an absolute stench.
Also, the kid who committed the murders in Southport wasn't even Muslim. In fact the family were apparently church regulars.
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Post by borussiachester on Aug 3, 2024 23:31:11 GMT
People of colour being arbitrarily attacked, mosques being targeted and shops and municipal buildings being torched, by people with swastika tattoos and performing Nazi salutes… and one of the Tory leadership hopefuls is claiming it’s Starmer’s fault for once taking the knee 🙃
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