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Post by welshrover on Aug 12, 2024 21:30:19 GMT
See she has quashed the Brits first for council houses. So if the 90,000 illegals are granted leave to stay, as looks likely, the British people on the list have no hope of ever getting a council house.
It's going to be a long five years!
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Post by Lobster on Aug 12, 2024 22:54:13 GMT
See she has quashed the Brits first for council houses. So if the 90,000 illegals are granted leave to stay, as looks likely, the British people on the list have no hope of ever getting a council house. It's going to be a long five years! If they're granted leave to stay, they're not illegals. |
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Post by weareblues on Aug 13, 2024 8:52:10 GMT
See she has quashed the Brits first for council houses. So if the 90,000 illegals are granted leave to stay, as looks likely, the British people on the list have no hope of ever getting a council house. It's going to be a long five years! If they're granted leave to stay, they're not illegals. If you cross over in a boat without any paperwork all to just take advantage of our charitable country then you’re very much an illegal. Can’t get my head around why people would want open borders it’s a huge breech of national security |
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Post by Lobster on Aug 13, 2024 11:39:10 GMT
If they're granted leave to stay, they're not illegals. If you cross over in a boat without any paperwork all to just take advantage of our charitable country then you’re very much an illegal. Can’t get my head around why people would want open borders it’s a huge breech of national security I didn't say anything about open borders, just that their claims should be processed and then you would know whether or not they have a valid claim for asylum. From some countries, there is no legal route to apply for asylum in the UK. We have to accept our fair share of them like every other country. |
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Post by weareblues on Aug 13, 2024 12:06:41 GMT
If you cross over in a boat without any paperwork all to just take advantage of our charitable country then you’re very much an illegal. Can’t get my head around why people would want open borders it’s a huge breech of national security I didn't say anything about open borders, just that their claims should be processed and then you would know whether or not they have a valid claim for asylum. From some countries, there is no legal route to apply for asylum in the UK. We have to accept our fair share of them like every other country. It’s simple if you enter the country illegally you shouldn’t be accepted. The country gains nothing by letting illegals in, incredible how there’s so much help and support yet we ignore our own citizens who have either served for this country, ended up homeless or mentally unwell We’ve let way more then our fair share and have our own issues. Take away the free handouts and majority wouldn’t even bother coming here. |
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Post by Ian H Block on Aug 13, 2024 12:14:08 GMT
I didn't say anything about open borders, just that their claims should be processed and then you would know whether or not they have a valid claim for asylum. From some countries, there is no legal route to apply for asylum in the UK. We have to accept our fair share of them like every other country. It’s simple if you enter the country illegally you shouldn’t be accepted. The country gains nothing by letting illegals in, incredible how there’s so much help and support yet we ignore our own citizens who have either served for this country, ended up homeless or mentally unwell We’ve let way more then our fair share and have our own issues. Take away the free handouts and majority wouldn’t even bother coming here. Yes, one of our biggest issues is with twisted old farts, incapable of independent thinking who become radicalised online. Get rid of them and the country would be a much happier place. |
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Post by Si on Aug 14, 2024 8:19:28 GMT
I didn't say anything about open borders, just that their claims should be processed and then you would know whether or not they have a valid claim for asylum. From some countries, there is no legal route to apply for asylum in the UK. We have to accept our fair share of them like every other country. It’s simple if you enter the country illegally you shouldn’t be accepted. The country gains nothing by letting illegals in, incredible how there’s so much help and support yet we ignore our own citizens who have either served for this country, ended up homeless or mentally unwell We’ve let way more then our fair share and have our own issues. Take away the free handouts and majority wouldn’t even bother coming here. There's a humanitarian issue at hand here. I agree that there needs to be better controls and measures to try and stop people risking their lives crossing the seas, but the majority are trying to escape awful situations and just want a better life for them and their families, and that's why it's just the decent thing to do to have a bit of empathy and understanding. Not all of them will be hardened criminals, many are young families just desperate for a better life. We do need to have a limit on how many we can take it, and we need a better plan if that limit is exceeded rather than bunging them on a plane to Rwanda (already wasted a lot of tax payer money). Its not an easy one to solve, and requires buy in from many other countries too. All modern world countries should be obliged to come together and agree to be taking in a percentage of immigrants. There is surely a way where this can be managed in a way that shows our empathy and embrace different cultures but without losing our own identity too. |
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Post by Lobster on Aug 14, 2024 10:40:49 GMT
I didn't say anything about open borders, just that their claims should be processed and then you would know whether or not they have a valid claim for asylum. From some countries, there is no legal route to apply for asylum in the UK. We have to accept our fair share of them like every other country. It’s simple if you enter the country illegally you shouldn’t be accepted. The country gains nothing by letting illegals in, incredible how there’s so much help and support yet we ignore our own citizens who have either served for this country, ended up homeless or mentally unwell We’ve let way more then our fair share and have our own issues. Take away the free handouts and majority wouldn’t even bother coming here. The country gains nothing from having so many old people either. Shall we just exterminate them when they get to a certain age? Maybe see people as people, eh? I'm not falling for the narrative set by the previous government of getting everyone angry at boats while billionaires dodge taxes and get richer. |
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Post by weareblues on Aug 14, 2024 11:10:07 GMT
It’s simple if you enter the country illegally you shouldn’t be accepted. The country gains nothing by letting illegals in, incredible how there’s so much help and support yet we ignore our own citizens who have either served for this country, ended up homeless or mentally unwell We’ve let way more then our fair share and have our own issues. Take away the free handouts and majority wouldn’t even bother coming here. The country gains nothing from having so many old people either. Shall we just exterminate them when they get to a certain age? Maybe see people as people, eh? I'm not falling for the narrative set by the previous government of getting everyone angry at boats while billionaires dodge taxes and get richer. Gain nothing? Like majority of them haven’t worked their whole life’s paid tax and given their service to the country? As opposed to people who are coming here to just take advantage of our free handouts. Hope you realise them boats are only profiting criminal organisations and it’s no reason why majority of Europe is such a mess and their people think the same. |
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Post by Lobster on Aug 14, 2024 11:26:39 GMT
The country gains nothing from having so many old people either. Shall we just exterminate them when they get to a certain age? Maybe see people as people, eh? I'm not falling for the narrative set by the previous government of getting everyone angry at boats while billionaires dodge taxes and get richer. Gain nothing? Like majority of them haven’t worked their whole life’s paid tax and given their service to the country? As opposed to people who are coming here to just take advantage of our free handouts. Hope you realise them boats are only profiting criminal organisations and it’s no reason why majority of Europe is such a mess and their people think the same. Agree with the second paragraph which is why your anger should be at the gangs running it, not the people on the boats. I'd support an effort to actually stop the practice rather than just rant at migrants. Perhaps there's even an argument we should put on boats ourselves? It would go down like a lead balloon with the tabloids but it would kill the illegal trade, and would mean we could monitor numbers and process applications better. |
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Post by welshrover on Aug 14, 2024 11:44:57 GMT
After Reeves and Rayner I'm just glad we never had a player called Starmer!
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Post by theshed1 on Aug 14, 2024 13:50:09 GMT
Gain nothing? Like majority of them haven’t worked their whole life’s paid tax and given their service to the country? As opposed to people who are coming here to just take advantage of our free handouts. Hope you realise them boats are only profiting criminal organisations and it’s no reason why majority of Europe is such a mess and their people think the same. Agree with the second paragraph which is why your anger should be at the gangs running it, not the people on the boats. I'd support an effort to actually stop the practice rather than just rant at migrants. Perhaps there's even an argument we should put on boats ourselves? It would go down like a lead balloon with the tabloids but it would kill the illegal trade, and would mean we could monitor numbers and process applications better. I dont understand why the boats aren't impounded and the pilots arrested and charged with human trafficking the illegal trade would soon stop with no boats or pilots |
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Post by welshrover on Aug 14, 2024 21:33:09 GMT
Agree with the second paragraph which is why your anger should be at the gangs running it, not the people on the boats. I'd support an effort to actually stop the practice rather than just rant at migrants. Perhaps there's even an argument we should put on boats ourselves? It would go down like a lead balloon with the tabloids but it would kill the illegal trade, and would mean we could monitor numbers and process applications better. I dont understand why the boats aren't impounded and the pilots arrested and charged with human trafficking the illegal trade would soon stop with no boats or pilots Must admit the two things that always bemuse me, with all the "intelligence agencies" across Europe how nobody can see a pattern of rib purchases and secondly how come the migrants know where to catch the boats but the latest technology employed by these agencies can't find the launch site. With regard to arresting the pilot it is belief, stand to be corrected, that one of the migrants assumes the role of pilot. |
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Post by martyntrumpcaster on Aug 15, 2024 7:06:26 GMT
See she has quashed the Brits first for council houses. So if the 90,000 illegals are granted leave to stay, as looks likely, the British people on the list have no hope of ever getting a council house. It's going to be a long five years! Out of interest, what is your news source? |
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Post by Eddie Gray's left foot on Aug 15, 2024 8:29:03 GMT
See she has quashed the Brits first for council houses. So if the 90,000 illegals are granted leave to stay, as looks likely, the British people on the list have no hope of ever getting a council house. It's going to be a long five years! If they're granted leave to stay, they're not illegals. Only because they haven't got the resources to process them. Lazy government. |
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Post by welshrover on Aug 15, 2024 10:12:37 GMT
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Post by weareblues on Aug 15, 2024 10:30:53 GMT
Gain nothing? Like majority of them haven’t worked their whole life’s paid tax and given their service to the country? As opposed to people who are coming here to just take advantage of our free handouts. Hope you realise them boats are only profiting criminal organisations and it’s no reason why majority of Europe is such a mess and their people think the same. Agree with the second paragraph which is why your anger should be at the gangs running it, not the people on the boats. I'd support an effort to actually stop the practice rather than just rant at migrants. Perhaps there's even an argument we should put on boats ourselves? It would go down like a lead balloon with the tabloids but it would kill the illegal trade, and would mean we could monitor numbers and process applications better. Or maybe we should defend our borders properly and tighten up on national security. Got enough problems in this country especially with our own citizens living in poverty and nothings done about it. And yet we brush them aside to put up non citizens in hotels, Reward them with a phone plus health care and money. Whilst our own people suffer and pay for it… |
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Post by Moltisanti on Aug 15, 2024 10:41:10 GMT
Tory tears. Fuck me I love it so much.
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Post by welshrover on Aug 15, 2024 12:07:21 GMT
Tory tears. Fuck me I love it so much. You may be laughing on the other side of your face come the next budget. Some of us old farts remember 35% income tax under James Callaghan's Labour Government. I think we should all be very worried about an all out assault on the money we earn / have. Let us also not forget pensioners who can not afford to retire who work on past retirement, previously they stopped paying NI at retirement age, Vic Reeves is about to change that and make them pay NI on top of the 50 years they have already contributed. But hey, as long as the civil servants and people who have never paid a penny in are looked after then to hell with the rest of the country. |
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Post by Deva Chanter on Aug 15, 2024 12:14:48 GMT
Agree with the second paragraph which is why your anger should be at the gangs running it, not the people on the boats. I'd support an effort to actually stop the practice rather than just rant at migrants. Perhaps there's even an argument we should put on boats ourselves? It would go down like a lead balloon with the tabloids but it would kill the illegal trade, and would mean we could monitor numbers and process applications better. Or maybe we should defend our borders properly and tighten up on national security. Got enough problems in this country especially with our own citizens living in poverty and nothings done about it. And yet we brush them aside to put up non citizens in hotels, Reward them with a phone plus health care and money. Whilst our own people suffer and pay for it… Except things aren't that simple, are they? For example, last year, a significant number of those crossing the Channel came from countries like Afghanistan and Iraq - two countries the UK has helped to destroy through recklessly invading, with nothing positive to show for it. Whether you like it or not, the actions of the UK actively helped to create the flow of those migrants, many of whom do successfully get granted asylum because to send them back is to send them back to persecution and/or death. Fact of the matter is, there's plenty of resources available to stop both our own people suffering, and asylum seekers. But for as long as people keep falling for divide and rule, and making claims that providing basic healthcare to desperate people is a 'reward', things aren't going to get much better for anyone in need. We live in one of the most unequal countries in the world, and one of the main reasons government after government after government finds it so easy to keep it that way is because they can rely on people like you to think their enemy arrives on a dinghy rather than in a private jet. |
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Post by Moltisanti on Aug 15, 2024 12:15:50 GMT
Tory tears. Fuck me I love it so much. You may be laughing on the other side of your face come the next budget. Some of us old farts remember 35% income tax under James Callaghan's Labour Government. I think we should all be very worried about an all out assault on the money we earn / have. I’m laughing my head off Tory worms having the nerve to moan about a government that’s been in power for about 6 weeks. When the vile Tories destroyed the country. This is fantastic. Labour 🌹 😍 |
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Post by welshrover on Aug 15, 2024 12:22:11 GMT
You may be laughing on the other side of your face come the next budget. Some of us old farts remember 35% income tax under James Callaghan's Labour Government. I think we should all be very worried about an all out assault on the money we earn / have. I’m laughing my head off Tory worms having the nerve to moan about a government that’s been in power for about 6 weeks. When the vile Tories destroyed it. This is fantastic. Labour 🌹 😍 You have absolutely no clue. Dictator Starmer will wreak havoc, and if, as already demonstrated by him, you disagree with him there is no future for you. The seven Labour MPs who dared to vote against his child care policy found that out. The bloke is making Mussolini look democratic! |
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Post by Moltisanti on Aug 15, 2024 12:24:14 GMT
I’m laughing my head off Tory worms having the nerve to moan about a government that’s been in power for about 6 weeks. When the vile Tories destroyed it. This is fantastic. Labour 🌹 😍 You have absolutely no clue. Dictator Starmer will wreak havoc, and if, as already demonstrated by him, you disagree with him there is no future for you. The seven Labour MPs who dared to vote against his child care policy found that out. The bloke is making Mussolini look democratic! If he’s upsetting Tories then that makes me so so happy. Keep up the good work Prime Minister. |
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Post by Al on Aug 15, 2024 22:21:09 GMT
I’m laughing my head off Tory worms having the nerve to moan about a government that’s been in power for about 6 weeks. When the vile Tories destroyed it. This is fantastic. Labour 🌹 😍 You have absolutely no clue. Dictator Starmer will wreak havoc, and if, as already demonstrated by him, you disagree with him there is no future for you. The seven Labour MPs who dared to vote against his child care policy found that out. The bloke is making Mussolini look democratic! Fuck me the guys been in power for less than 2 months and you're making comparisons to an Italian dictator. Absolute fruit loop you |
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Post by Lobster on Aug 15, 2024 22:28:35 GMT
I'd agree he's autocratic. Ever since becoming Labour leader he's been purging the party of anyone who disagrees with him.
Politically though, he's right of centre and bland as fuck. Pretty sure he won't win another election, which is frightening when you look at the opposition.
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Post by proudblue on Aug 16, 2024 9:55:30 GMT
Pretty sure he won't win another election, which is frightening when you look at the opposition. I get that you don’t like him, but as things stand I’d be surprised if he didn’t get to serve a second term as PM given the majority they’ve got, the ball being in their court about when to call the next election and the current state the Tories are in. Could all change of course and remains to be seen how strong a position Reform are in come the next election in terms of taking seats off Labour. |
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Post by welshrover on Aug 16, 2024 11:40:43 GMT
You have absolutely no clue. Dictator Starmer will wreak havoc, and if, as already demonstrated by him, you disagree with him there is no future for you. The seven Labour MPs who dared to vote against his child care policy found that out. The bloke is making Mussolini look democratic! Fuck me the guys been in power for less than 2 months and you're making comparisons to an Italian dictator. Absolute fruit loop you There does seem to be a pattern here amongst the Labour voters....throw insults at anyone who disagrees with you. |
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Post by Moltisanti on Aug 16, 2024 12:56:35 GMT
Tories still crying.
Keep. Them. Tears. Coming.
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Post by ivawhopper on Aug 16, 2024 17:54:49 GMT
I think Angela Rayner is really cute
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Post by theshed1 on Aug 16, 2024 18:35:33 GMT
I think Angela Rayner is really cute So does starmer |
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