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Post by cfcforme on Jun 13, 2017 19:11:40 GMT
As stated in the title, has anything been said about where the Sam Hughes money will be spent?
We've got our £100k safety net already in the bank, so unless it's getting pumped into paying budget, and I hope at least £100k of it isn't, I'd like to see it spent on infrastructure that will generate for money season after season in future years. So for me it'd be a bigger blues bar.
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Post by dmcnally on Jun 13, 2017 19:19:34 GMT
I've heard it's been spread across four years. Don't know if that is true, but I'd like it invested in something we're going to get a return on. Such as putting some towards the 4G training/community pitch.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jun 13, 2017 19:20:22 GMT
Judging by the players we've signed and the length of their contracts I'd say it's already been spent!
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Post by Lobster on Jun 13, 2017 19:31:28 GMT
Judging by the players we've signed and the length of their contracts I'd say it's already been spent! That is a slight concern I have, I must admit. I'm pleasantly surprised at the calibre of players we're signing, but are we being sensible with the Hughes money? It's unusual that so many players are leaving Macc to come here. Hate to put a dampener on things, but I think it is important we consider questions like this.
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Post by dmcnally on Jun 13, 2017 19:35:03 GMT
Judging by the players we've signed and the length of their contracts I'd say it's already been spent! That is a slight concern I have, I must admit. I'm pleasantly surprised at the calibre of players we're signing, but are we being sensible with the Hughes money? It's unusual that so many players are leaving Macc to come here. Hate to put a dampener on things, but I think it is important we consider questions like this. Dave Powell said our budget is similar to last season, and that the budget is getting tight now. So we are probably okay.
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Post by Alan on Jun 13, 2017 19:39:04 GMT
Am I correct in saying that even before Sam was sold, the plan was to sign 4/5 good quality players rather than going for quantity? It's a tough balancing act as if there wasn't enough reaction to last season's collapse in form there would be summer of discontent and a desire to show a lack of ambition, or does the board speculate to accumulate, as many have wished for them to do, to hopefully create a feel good factor and hopefully sell more season tickets to compensate for the extra spend in wages.
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Post by devavictrix on Jun 13, 2017 20:01:30 GMT
I think we've spent the majority if not all of the money already. The way we've spent it is the correct way aswell in my opinion. Since we've been at this level we've not really had a squad thats had extensive experience at this level and we have paid the price for this in previous seasons. Dave Powell seems to be implying that any other signings will hinge on the amount we get for Alabi so we're definitely spent up at the moment imo.
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Post by Si on Jun 13, 2017 20:31:57 GMT
How about we finally sort the disabled facilities out?
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Post by norwegianblue on Jun 13, 2017 20:35:36 GMT
I would like to think that the Board wouldn't be too frivolous with any funds that the club has. Maybe there is something going on at Macc that we don't know about and they have advised players to look for a new club for next season? Perhaps Barrow's owner is realising that he is required to pump in more than he thought to get into the FL. After all, Tranmere had a big budget last season and still failed.
When is the next CFU meeting? Perfect opportunity to ask questions about the fee/deal for Sam Hughes.
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Post by dmcnally on Jun 13, 2017 20:48:54 GMT
I would like to think that the Board wouldn't be too frivolous with any funds that the club has. Maybe there is something going on at Macc that we don't know about and they have advised players to look for a new club for next season? Perhaps Barrow's owner is realising that he is required to pump in more than he thought to get into the FL. After all, Tranmere had a big budget last season and still failed. When is the next CFU meeting? Perfect opportunity to ask questions about the fee/deal for Sam Hughes. The big AGM is coming up in Autumn. I'd hope the Blues bar will be packed for that one, this is a huge moment in our clubs history and we need to be all together, with the aim of achieving Football League status. COYB
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Post by iandychesterfc on Jun 13, 2017 21:05:07 GMT
I'd like to think a premiership club earning in excess of £130m this year can afford £125K up front ffs.
Personally i'd like to see £25k given to Macca for the squad and £100k go to funding our own 3G facility (yes i know probs need another £400K but we need long term big projects like this.
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Post by dmcnally on Jun 13, 2017 21:13:25 GMT
I'd like to think a premiership club earning in excess of £130m this year can afford £125K up front ffs. Personally i'd like to see £25k given to Macca for the squad and £100k go to funding our own 3G facility (yes i know probs need another £400K but we need long term big projects like this. We can get a good amount of money towards it from FA grants. £100k would go a long way to securing all the funding required. And it'd be a real money maker for us. And a money saver!
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Post by Rio Doherty on Jun 13, 2017 21:22:40 GMT
How about we finally sort the disabled facilities out? I too would like to see this happen. We have had quizzes in the blues bar for a couple of years now and nothing has come of it.
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Post by gazzpash on Jun 13, 2017 21:47:38 GMT
I'd like to think a premiership club earning in excess of £130m this year can afford £125K up front ffs. Personally i'd like to see £25k given to Macca for the squad and £100k go to funding our own 3G facility (yes i know probs need another £400K but we need long term big projects like this. There's a good chance we asked for it to be paid over that period of time. If we get £30k over 4 years then the books will look cleaner and we won't have to pay as much tax on this as income. I could be wrong as not an accountant but this would be my guess. Also, if we say get promoted this year and then in two years time it hasn't worked for Sam then we could get him back for nothing but lose the two years of payments. Several clubs do the buy back scheme with money off payments
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Post by marner93 on Jun 13, 2017 22:17:11 GMT
I think it's already gone, either in these 2 year contracts or covering other shortfalls, would be nice to see it spent on something useful like shelter for the disabled seating area.
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Post by Sealand Road Veteran on Jun 14, 2017 6:24:20 GMT
apparently JM has been very very shrewd, and depending on monies they receive for Alabi there will be money for another defensive player, don't automatically assume we have had to use the Sam Hughes money, why would the club suddenly change tact and go from being careful and regimented to reckless and frivolous. I know it's Chester And we never do things the easy way, but I'm very impressed with Macca he has pulled off some fantastic signings i agree some of the money should go to a 4g training facility, grants would cover most of the costs and what better way to use some of the money from the sale of an academy graduate than to provide a platform for years of academy players to train and progress on, also a great revenue stream for the club
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jun 14, 2017 7:16:05 GMT
I'd like to know what the specific add-ons are to the Hughes sale. When is the next CFU meeting to pose the question?
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Post by Si on Jun 14, 2017 8:07:36 GMT
I think Dave Powell said the budget was marginally bigger than last season so I doubt it's a case of blowing the Hughes money. It's not like we're signing guys dropping down from the football league, they are all lads who played in this division last year and I doubt Macc would have been paying massive wages to Hall/McCombe/James. We've also rid of George and Durrell who was allegedly a high earners, and there's room in the budget from the Roberts/Vassell/Lloyd all returning to their parent clubs and Hughes/Richards/Hunt all leaving. I imagine that the Sam money has helped us with providing enough financial stability to take a gamble on some 2 year deals for key players and I've no problem with that. Macca knows what Kingsley and Hannah can do so its a small risk, and the only way we'd get burnt is if they suffer long term injuries. Turnbull wanted to be closer to family and Ross wanted to get back to playing football so they won't be on anywhere near the same wages but at least have the comfort of 2 years of employment in an environment that suits them. The Alabi money will probably be used for defensive cover, and hopefully keep some in the pot to bring in a loan signing or two should the need arise. We still need a backup goalkeeper too, although I agree with Lobster in that I always think you can get one should you need one, and its pretty much a wasted wage and a wasted season for the lad himself.
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Post by sqzl on Jun 14, 2017 8:16:46 GMT
I've seen 4G pitches paid for before through the Uni when i worked there, they're around 500k for a decent one and then need relaying every 10 years costing more than you'd think (80-120k). Not saying it's a bad idea, but would be better if we could build some form of advertising partnership with Goals across the road if one isn't in place...
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Post by blue4life on Jun 14, 2017 8:27:47 GMT
How about keeping it incase we have to pay off McCarthy😏
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Post by g1 on Jun 14, 2017 8:48:34 GMT
Invest most of it into the youth system to develope the next Sam Hughes
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Post by sqzl on Jun 14, 2017 8:51:19 GMT
Invest most of it into the youth system to develope the next Sam Hughes You could argue that if we're already producing players like Hughes without the large investment, then would it be worth pumping big money in. I think something that generates a return would be great, disabled shelter would be first on the list if i had those funds.
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Post by Hannibal on Jun 14, 2017 8:52:30 GMT
That is a slight concern I have, I theries t admit. I'm pleasantly surprised at the calibre of players we're signing, but are we being sensible with the Hughes money? It's unusual that so many players are leaving Macc to come here. Hate to put a dampener on things, but I think it is important we consider questions like this. Dave Powell said our budget is similar to last season, and that the budget is getting tight now. So we are probably okay. My guess is that there is £65k extra in the budget because we've finished paying Burr off. Macclesfield players won't be on big money anyway. The lure has been 2-year contracts, which have/are being funded by the Sam Hughes transfer fee. Btw we had the 3rd lowest budget in the National League last season.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2017 9:32:19 GMT
i very much doubt we are using sams transfer fee to bolster our budget .the purse strings at chester fc are securely held ,and rightly so.we had a short fall in income last year ,this had to be made good ,i would be very surprised if the bulk of this cash did not make its way into our rainy day fund.with regards to the disabled shelter there is a fund for that and any body who wishes can contribute this is something that gets regularly discussed at senior blues meetings,
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Post by sqzl on Jun 14, 2017 10:10:03 GMT
i very much doubt we are using sams transfer fee to bolster our budget .the purse strings at chester fc are securely held ,and rightly so.we had a short fall in income last year ,this had to be made good ,i would be very surprised if the bulk of this cash did not make its way into our rainy day fund.with regards to the disabled shelter there is a fund for that and any body who wishes can contribute this is something that gets regularly discussed at senior blues meetings, I find it a bit annoying that we have to crowd fund a disabled feature that should be the first thing on our list in terms of how money is spent. I will donate towards this, but it doesn't sit well with me. I have heard similar to above in regards to budget, it has been increased and the money is being reinvested to make us more competitive for the next 4-5 seasons, not just blown on this one season. Can't speak to the Alabi cash, but surely disabled facilities is a must as well as some form on structural investment.
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Post by everhopeful on Jun 14, 2017 10:36:45 GMT
I think Dave Powell said the budget was marginally bigger than last season so I doubt it's a case of blowing the Hughes money. It's not like we're signing guys dropping down from the football league, they are all lads who played in this division last year and I doubt Macc would have been paying massive wages to Hall/McCombe/James. We've also rid of George and Durrell who was allegedly a high earners, and there's room in the budget from the Roberts/Vassell/Lloyd all returning to their parent clubs and Hughes/Richards/Hunt all leaving. I imagine that the Sam money has helped us with providing enough financial stability to take a gamble on some 2 year deals for key players and I've no problem with that. Macca knows what Kingsley and Hannah can do so its a small risk, and the only way we'd get burnt is if they suffer long term injuries. Turnbull wanted to be closer to family and Ross wanted to get back to playing football so they won't be on anywhere near the same wages but at least have the comfort of 2 years of employment in an environment that suits them. The Alabi money will probably be used for defensive cover, and hopefully keep some in the pot to bring in a loan signing or two should the need arise. We still need a backup goalkeeper too, although I agree with Lobster in that I always think you can get one should you need one, and its pretty much a wasted wage and a wasted season for the lad himself. Agreed, we should definitely have a reserve keeper, any player can get injured. It would be nice, too, to have a Sarcevic-type player who could link up what is already looking like a good defensive and attacking line up.
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Post by sqzl on Jun 14, 2017 10:56:58 GMT
I think Dave Powell said the budget was marginally bigger than last season so I doubt it's a case of blowing the Hughes money. It's not like we're signing guys dropping down from the football league, they are all lads who played in this division last year and I doubt Macc would have been paying massive wages to Hall/McCombe/James. We've also rid of George and Durrell who was allegedly a high earners, and there's room in the budget from the Roberts/Vassell/Lloyd all returning to their parent clubs and Hughes/Richards/Hunt all leaving. I imagine that the Sam money has helped us with providing enough financial stability to take a gamble on some 2 year deals for key players and I've no problem with that. Macca knows what Kingsley and Hannah can do so its a small risk, and the only way we'd get burnt is if they suffer long term injuries. Turnbull wanted to be closer to family and Ross wanted to get back to playing football so they won't be on anywhere near the same wages but at least have the comfort of 2 years of employment in an environment that suits them. The Alabi money will probably be used for defensive cover, and hopefully keep some in the pot to bring in a loan signing or two should the need arise. We still need a backup goalkeeper too, although I agree with Lobster in that I always think you can get one should you need one, and its pretty much a wasted wage and a wasted season for the lad himself. Agreed, we should definitely have a reserve keeper, any player can get injured. It would be nice, too, to have a Sarcevic-type player who could link up what is already looking like a good defensive and attacking line up. That won't happen unfortunately. The rest of the signings now will be loan players and we won't bring in another central midfielder, or number 10 as we have enough strikers and look to be playing 2 up top. If Alabi brings a fair fee, we may see one more actual signing but will be a defender.
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Post by everhopeful on Jun 14, 2017 11:20:39 GMT
Agreed, we should definitely have a reserve keeper, any player can get injured. It would be nice, too, to have a Sarcevic-type player who could link up what is already looking like a good defensive and attacking line up. That won't happen unfortunately. The rest of the signings now will be loan players and we won't bring in another central midfielder, or number 10 as we have enough strikers and look to be playing 2 up top. If Alabi brings a fair fee, we may see one more actual signing but will be a defender. That's probably true, unfortunately. It's a shame, because apart from good for us this season, we might also have made a decent profit, as we did with Antoni.
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Post by sqzl on Jun 14, 2017 11:48:23 GMT
That won't happen unfortunately. The rest of the signings now will be loan players and we won't bring in another central midfielder, or number 10 as we have enough strikers and look to be playing 2 up top. If Alabi brings a fair fee, we may see one more actual signing but will be a defender. That's probably true, unfortunately. It's a shame, because apart from good for us this season, we might also have made a decent profit, as we did with Antoni. Wouldn't be surprised if Kingsley has a great season and we get some bids on him next summer, one perk of a two year deal..also Waters could easily have his breakthrough year this season. It all depends which Chappel we see. I've watched him at times when he's looked like the best player on the pitch, but I've also watched games where I've not realised he was playing until his 89th minute booking.
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Post by pedro on Jun 14, 2017 12:08:04 GMT
How about we finally sort the disabled facilities out? I too would like to see this happen. We have had quizzes in the blues bar for a couple of years now and nothing has come of it. Quiz nights have been a relative success. We need more people to attend these quiz nights which are held on the last Thursday of every month in the Blues Bar, starting at 8pm. We have raised over £3,000 so far from quiz nights alone. To improve the disabled facilities, will cost well in excess of the potential fee we have received for Sam Hughes. If more people attend the quiz nights, the more money the club can put forward to contribute towards the disabled facilities. Please come along to the quiz nights in the Blues Bar, it only costs £1 per person and most importantly, it's fun!!
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