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Post by johnytwodogs on Oct 31, 2024 8:55:13 GMT
So he probably hasn't broken any laws but who cares, what happened to freedom of speech, he may have different opinoons to you but does not deserve to be jailed for it.
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Post by Lobster on Oct 31, 2024 10:24:11 GMT
So he probably hasn't broken any laws but who cares, what happened to freedom of speech, he may have different opinoons to you but does not deserve to be jailed for it. In my slightly drunken analogy last night. In real life he's committed an offence. Freedom of speech isn't freedom from accountability. |
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Post by Ian H Block on Oct 31, 2024 12:10:16 GMT
So he probably hasn't broken any laws but who cares, what happened to freedom of speech, he may have different opinoons to you but does not deserve to be jailed for it. If he hasn’t broken any laws, why plead guilty then? He was warned on several occasions about repeating false accusations against an innocent party, but chose to ignore the court order. Not sure who is more stupid, Little Tommy Lots of Names or the dickheads who fund his cocaine habit and foreign holidays. |
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Post by welshrover on Oct 31, 2024 13:57:15 GMT
So he probably hasn't broken any laws but who cares, what happened to freedom of speech, he may have different opinoons to you but does not deserve to be jailed for it. If he hasn’t broken any laws, why plead guilty then? He was warned on several occasions about repeating false accusations against an innocent party, but chose to ignore the court order. Not sure who is more stupid, Little Tommy Lots of Names or the dickheads who fund his cocaine habit and foreign holidays. To be fair we used to fund Harry's wine habit 🙂 |
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Post by southernseal on Nov 2, 2024 19:34:16 GMT
I see the far right racist Tory party have a new leader  |
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Post by Lobster on Nov 2, 2024 20:02:29 GMT
I see the far right racist Tory party have a new leader ...who says anything white conservatives want to hear. Actually very dangerous and harmful to equality and diversity to have ladder kickers like her and Suella Braverman in senior positions, who would never have got to where they are under their own policies. |
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Post by southernseal on Nov 2, 2024 20:19:06 GMT
That’s really quite a claim, seems to be plenty of ethnic minorities in positions of power in the Tory party over the last 10 years despite the “ladder kickers” that came before them.
Also, claiming she’s just saying what the membership want to hear and not what she actually believes deprives her of agency and is quite baseless.
I thought getting ethnic minority representation in positions of power was important. I guess it doesn’t matter and can be explained away as “ladder kickers” when it’s done by the party whose views you disagree with
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 2, 2024 23:15:41 GMT
I see the far right racist Tory party have a new leader Aye you’re right there. Take it you’re one of those idiots who used to say the likes of Thatcher (still dead! 🙌 🥳) and May being in power was good for women, when their policies said otherwise… |
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 2, 2024 23:16:52 GMT
That’s really quite a claim, seems to be plenty of ethnic minorities in positions of power in the Tory party over the last 10 years despite the “ladder kickers” that came before them. Also, claiming she’s just saying what the membership want to hear and not what she actually believes deprives her of agency and is quite baseless. I thought getting ethnic minority representation in positions of power was important. I guess it doesn’t matter and can be explained away as “ladder kickers” when it’s done by the party whose views you disagree with Some leap isn’t it. “Those whose views you disagree with” - yeah isn’t it normal to “disagree with” facism? |
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Post by southernseal on Nov 3, 2024 11:06:38 GMT
Yes, electing a black woman of Nigerian descent to lead a UK party is a classic fascist move
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 3, 2024 11:31:49 GMT
Yes, electing a black woman of Nigerian descent to lead a UK party is a classic fascist move Do you know what fascism is? It really seems like you dont. |
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Post by southernseal on Nov 3, 2024 11:33:14 GMT
Id love to hear how Badenoch’s positions fit your definition of the word
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Post by Lobster on Nov 3, 2024 20:54:57 GMT
Yes, electing a black woman of Nigerian descent to lead a UK party is a classic fascist move Could argue that's exactly what you'd do if you wanted to suggest you're not fascist, provided she mouths the views their demographic wants to hear. The argument you're making seems very similar to "I'm not racist, I have black friends." |
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Post by southernseal on Nov 3, 2024 21:16:04 GMT
Yes, electing a black woman of Nigerian descent to lead a UK party is a classic fascist move Could argue that's exactly what you'd do if you wanted to suggest you're not fascist, provided she mouths the views their demographic wants to hear. The argument you're making seems very similar to "I'm not racist, I have black friends." You’re seriously suggesting the Tories elected a woman of Nigerian heritage because they’re secret fascists who want to impose fascist policies by stealth via her? Really? As I said above I’d love to hear how Badenoch’s positions fit your definition of the word fascist? |
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Post by Lobster on Nov 3, 2024 21:56:53 GMT
Could argue that's exactly what you'd do if you wanted to suggest you're not fascist, provided she mouths the views their demographic wants to hear. The argument you're making seems very similar to "I'm not racist, I have black friends." You’re seriously suggesting the Tories elected a woman of Nigerian heritage because they’re secret fascists who want to impose fascist policies by stealth via her? Really? As I said above I’d love to hear how Badenoch’s positions fit your definition of the word fascist? It doesn't mean they're not, is all I'm saying. There are some Tory MPs who express fascist views in my opinion, and also in my opinion several of the party's leaders have not done a lot to condemn or distance themselves from these views. So I think they're at least a party that enables fascism. |
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Post by Moltisanti on Nov 4, 2024 6:38:24 GMT
You’re seriously suggesting the Tories elected a woman of Nigerian heritage because they’re secret fascists who want to impose fascist policies by stealth via her? Really? As I said above I’d love to hear how Badenoch’s positions fit your definition of the word fascist? It doesn't mean they're not, is all I'm saying. There are some Tory MPs who express fascist views in my opinion, and also in my opinion several of the party's leaders have not done a lot to condemn or distance themselves from these views. So I think they're at least a party that enables fascism. Lee Anderson. |
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Post by southernseal on Nov 4, 2024 7:08:30 GMT
You’re seriously suggesting the Tories elected a woman of Nigerian heritage because they’re secret fascists who want to impose fascist policies by stealth via her? Really? As I said above I’d love to hear how Badenoch’s positions fit your definition of the word fascist? It doesn't mean they're not, is all I'm saying. There are some Tory MPs who express fascist views in my opinion, and also in my opinion several of the party's leaders have not done a lot to condemn or distance themselves from these views. So I think they're at least a party that enables fascism. Fair enough, I disagree but thanks for actually engaging and not just throwing insults. |
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 4, 2024 8:38:46 GMT
It’s a bit racist for you to assume ethnic minorities cannot be fascist.
Fascism is an ideology, and it’s being perpetuated by her party and in numerous sound bites by herself.
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Post by southernseal on Nov 4, 2024 9:21:34 GMT
Id love to hear how Badenoch’s positions fit your definition of the word Still waiting for examples |
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Post by weareblues on Nov 4, 2024 10:50:21 GMT
It’s a bit racist for you to assume ethnic minorities cannot be fascist. Fascism is an ideology, and it’s being perpetuated by her party and in numerous sound bites by herself. Just like all the pro Palestine lot who attack Jewish people on a regular then play victim as always Funny how antifa never get called out for their extremism by the media. |
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Post by Al on Nov 4, 2024 10:54:39 GMT
It doesn't mean they're not, is all I'm saying. There are some Tory MPs who express fascist views in my opinion, and also in my opinion several of the party's leaders have not done a lot to condemn or distance themselves from these views. So I think they're at least a party that enables fascism. Lee Anderson. Aye look no further than that fat prick for an example of a fascist Tory |
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Post by southernseal on Nov 4, 2024 11:05:57 GMT
The bloke who isn’t in the party any more and was a Labour member for 35 years?
Yeah he’s pretty nasty to be fair
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Post by tooth on Nov 4, 2024 11:15:03 GMT
Get ready for 10 more years of the labour party because the Tories will not win an election again for as long as they keep appointing the wrong person
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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 4, 2024 11:43:28 GMT
It’s a bit racist for you to assume ethnic minorities cannot be fascist. Fascism is an ideology, and it’s being perpetuated by her party and in numerous sound bites by herself. Just like all the pro Palestine lot who attack Jewish people on a regular then play victim as always Funny how antifa never get called out for their extremism by the media. I dunno, maybe it’s her constant ‘othering’ of communities and blaming them for the recent riots (apparently their failure to integrate is entirely the cause). She has defend Douglas Murray (friend and apologist of Tommy Robinson) on multiple occasions, despite him calling for a ‘brutal’ (his word) pogrom on immigrants. During the recent riots she failed to condemn the racist violence, despite James Cleverly and Priti Patel doing so. And finally she has been endorsed by Britain First, which should ring alarm bells. Is that enough for you? |
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Post by Moltisanti on Nov 4, 2024 11:51:32 GMT
Why do people keep defending the Tories. 😂
Everyone knows what they’ve done which is why Labour won by a landslide.
So so deluded.
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Post by Al on Nov 4, 2024 12:56:23 GMT
If anything the biggest challenge to Labour will be if Farage and his lot continue to be popular.
Labour won landslides not so much due to a sudden rush for people to vote for them i believe their actual number of votes was lower than the 2019 election? but that the Tory vote collapsed due to a lot of traditional tories voting for Farage's gang
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Post by southernseal on Nov 4, 2024 14:10:58 GMT
Just like all the pro Palestine lot who attack Jewish people on a regular then play victim as always Funny how antifa never get called out for their extremism by the media. I dunno, maybe it’s her constant ‘othering’ of communities and blaming them for the recent riots (apparently their failure to integrate is entirely the cause). She has defend Douglas Murray (friend and apologist of Tommy Robinson) on multiple occasions, despite him calling for a ‘brutal’ (his word) pogrom on immigrants. During the recent riots she failed to condemn the racist violence, despite James Cleverly and Priti Patel doing so. And finally she has been endorsed by Britain First, which should ring alarm bells. Is that enough for you? Britain first’s leader said “God help us” to her getting elected then posted a racist comment about her being really Nigerian. Not exactly an endorsement huh? As for Tommy Robinson she said on ITV just the other night that it was right to lock him up and he was a danger to social cohesion. Not exactly an endorsement huh? |
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Post by Lobster on Nov 4, 2024 14:31:18 GMT
The bloke who isn’t in the party any more and was a Labour member for 35 years? Yeah he’s pretty nasty to be fair Literally said some asylum seekers should "fuck off back to France" while serving as a Conservative MP, and was defended by the party. |
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Post by southernseal on Nov 4, 2024 14:40:42 GMT
Yeah he’s a dick no question.
My point was merely to correct the assertion that he is still a Tory MP, which he isn’t.
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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 4, 2024 14:45:11 GMT
I dunno, maybe it’s her constant ‘othering’ of communities and blaming them for the recent riots (apparently their failure to integrate is entirely the cause). She has defend Douglas Murray (friend and apologist of Tommy Robinson) on multiple occasions, despite him calling for a ‘brutal’ (his word) pogrom on immigrants. During the recent riots she failed to condemn the racist violence, despite James Cleverly and Priti Patel doing so. And finally she has been endorsed by Britain First, which should ring alarm bells. Is that enough for you? Britain first’s leader said “God help us” to her getting elected then posted a racist comment about her being really Nigerian. Not exactly an endorsement huh? As for Tommy Robinson she said on ITV just the other night that it was right to lock him up and he was a danger to social cohesion. Not exactly an endorsement huh? They were all for her in 2022 so not sure what’s changed there. She might have condemned little Tommy but she’s still very pally with Douglas Murray, a similar creature to Tommy, but with a plummy voice. Attachments:
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