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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 19, 2024 15:54:24 GMT
When are they going to start baton charging these farmers? Blocking roads, driving tractors at Police road blocks, if it was Just Stop Oil they’d be arrested immediately and be looking at serious jail time.
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Post by iandychesterfc on Nov 19, 2024 16:09:05 GMT
Only thing that annoyed me of late was 470 civil servants flew to Azerbaijan for a climate conference. Just cant be doing with it. There were 470 British 'delegates', but a quick look at the lists provided you see that this number included civil servants, MPs HoL members, politicians and civil servants from Crown dependencies, people from GB News, Sky News, Kew Gardens, Times, ITV, National Grid, Octopus Energy, etc etc etc. Shouldn’t believe everything you read in the Daily Mail or The Torygraph. Aww you used the moniker "Torygraph" how very grown up. Anyway, heard it on 5 Live and as i said, can't be arsed with how much that would have cost the taxpayer to grandstand. |
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 19, 2024 16:21:36 GMT
Only thing that annoyed me of late was 470 civil servants flew to Azerbaijan for a climate conference. Just cant be doing with it. There were 470 British 'delegates', but a quick look at the lists provided you see that this number included civil servants, MPs HoL members, politicians and civil servants from Crown dependencies, people from GB News, Sky News, Kew Gardens, Times, ITV, National Grid, Octopus Energy, etc etc etc. Shouldn’t believe everything you read in the Daily Mail or The Torygraph. Should it not have been a Teams or Zoom call though really? For what it was. |
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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 19, 2024 16:25:02 GMT
There were 470 British 'delegates', but a quick look at the lists provided you see that this number included civil servants, MPs HoL members, politicians and civil servants from Crown dependencies, people from GB News, Sky News, Kew Gardens, Times, ITV, National Grid, Octopus Energy, etc etc etc. Shouldn’t believe everything you read in the Daily Mail or The Torygraph. Should it not have been a Teams or Zoom call though really? For what it was. Yeah, should have been. But you’ve got to call out bollocks when you see it. |
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Post by weareblues on Nov 20, 2024 9:20:50 GMT
When are they going to start baton charging these farmers? Blocking roads, driving tractors at Police road blocks, if it was Just Stop Oil they’d be arrested immediately and be looking at serious jail time. Regardless of what you think of the farmers this protest was a one day thing not daily like with the just stop oil and Palestine protests who’ve blocked emergancy services from attending calls. If you want to see a proper protest go have a look what’s going on in France. We should all be supporting those who produce our food because I’m sure you’d rather people be producing food than more Amazon slave labour plants in the countryside because it’s the elites who will only gain from all this… |
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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 20, 2024 9:45:55 GMT
I think it was the elites at the protest, looking to protect their particular tax dodges. It’s a shame they are once again stoking fear and using misinformation, but the hard of understanding types just lap it up.
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Post by weareblues on Nov 20, 2024 9:55:27 GMT
I think it was the elites at the protest, looking to protect their particular tax dodges. It’s a shame they are once again stoking fear and using misinformation, but the hard of understanding types just lap it up. Not a single word on the thousands of pounds worth of food donated to food banks yesterday then? Farmers are certianly not part the elite… Majority of them work long hours every day of the week and have passed down generational knowledge . Funny ain’t it how people like you are happy enough to protest other country’s issues in the UK yet have an issue when our own people stand up for themselves… Farming industry is one of few industries this country has left because majority of the country’s main businesses are all owned overseas. |
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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 20, 2024 10:48:59 GMT
I think it was the elites at the protest, looking to protect their particular tax dodges. It’s a shame they are once again stoking fear and using misinformation, but the hard of understanding types just lap it up. Not a single word on the thousands of pounds worth of food donated to food banks yesterday then? Farmers are certianly not part the elite… Majority of them work long hours every day of the week and have passed down generational knowledge . Funny ain’t it how people like you are happy enough to protest other country’s issues in the UK yet have an issue when our own people stand up for themselves… Farming industry is one of few industries this country has left because majority of the country’s main businesses are all owned overseas. I’m happy enough for anyone to protest, I just have an issue with the inconsistency of Police action at different events. Not sure having Clarkson as your poster boy is doing the farmers any favours. He admits to buying a farm specifically to avoid inheritance tax and has previously stated on BBC television that workers protesting the Tories’ austerity programme should be ‘taken out and shot in front of their families’. Clearly a massive hypocrite, much like many of the others clambering aboard this issue. |
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Post by weareblues on Nov 20, 2024 11:00:00 GMT
Not a single word on the thousands of pounds worth of food donated to food banks yesterday then? Farmers are certianly not part the elite… Majority of them work long hours every day of the week and have passed down generational knowledge . Funny ain’t it how people like you are happy enough to protest other country’s issues in the UK yet have an issue when our own people stand up for themselves… Farming industry is one of few industries this country has left because majority of the country’s main businesses are all owned overseas. I’m happy enough for anyone to protest, I just have an issue with the inconsistency of Police action at different events. Not sure having Clarkson as your poster boy is doing the farmers any favours. He admits to buying a farm specifically to avoid inheritance tax and has previously stated on BBC television that workers protesting the Tories’ austerity programme should be ‘taken out and shot in front of their families’. Clearly a massive hypocrite, much many others clambering aboard this issue. Inconsitent Police action? Are you for real?? JSO were causing daily disruptions, Smashed up banks, defaced art work caused million pounds worth of criminal damage due to their protests and got away with it for months 😂 soon as something comes along you don’t support you spit your dummy out after ONE protest from which was fairly peaceful… Palestine protests from which I’ve shown numerous evidence in past of anti semitism and hatred towards people and the only people that ever receive any force of the law are the ones who oppose them protests. Look at the reaction to the riots in Birmingham etc ? You had people live on sky news roaming around with machetes whilst police stood there and did fuck all Like I said you want to see a proper protest look at that’s going on in France because yesterday was tame as it comes. Being some world hero social activist you all make yourselves out to be thought you’d understand that. |
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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 20, 2024 11:11:19 GMT
I’m happy enough for anyone to protest, I just have an issue with the inconsistency of Police action at different events. Not sure having Clarkson as your poster boy is doing the farmers any favours. He admits to buying a farm specifically to avoid inheritance tax and has previously stated on BBC television that workers protesting the Tories’ austerity programme should be ‘taken out and shot in front of their families’. Clearly a massive hypocrite, much many others clambering aboard this issue. Inconsitent Police action? Are you for real?? JSO were causing daily disruptions, Smashed up banks, defaced art work caused million pounds worth of criminal damage due to their protests and got away with it for months 😂 soon as something comes along you don’t support you spit your dummy out after ONE protest from which was dairly peaceful… Palestine protests from which I’ve shown numerous evidence in past of anti semitism and hatred towards people and the only people that ever receive any force of the law are the ones who oppose them protests. Look at the reaction to the riots ? You had people live on sky news roaming around with machetes whilst police stood there and did fuck all Like I said you want to see a proper protest look at that’s going on in France because yesterday was tame as it comes. Being some world hero social activist you all make yourselves out to be thought you’d understand that. Show me the million pounds worth of damage then. As far as I am aware no artwork was damaged, they were covered in glass. It was merely a publicity stunt to highlight the issues and provoke a bit of faux outrage from small minded dickheads looking to be offended at every opportunity. Looks like they succeeded. |
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Post by weareblues on Nov 20, 2024 11:27:28 GMT
Inconsitent Police action? Are you for real?? JSO were causing daily disruptions, Smashed up banks, defaced art work caused million pounds worth of criminal damage due to their protests and got away with it for months 😂 soon as something comes along you don’t support you spit your dummy out after ONE protest from which was dairly peaceful… Palestine protests from which I’ve shown numerous evidence in past of anti semitism and hatred towards people and the only people that ever receive any force of the law are the ones who oppose them protests. Look at the reaction to the riots ? You had people live on sky news roaming around with machetes whilst police stood there and did fuck all Like I said you want to see a proper protest look at that’s going on in France because yesterday was tame as it comes. Being some world hero social activist you all make yourselves out to be thought you’d understand that. Show me the million pounds worth of damage then. As far as I am aware no artwork was damaged, they were covered in glass. It was merely a publicity stunt to highlight the issues and provoke a bit of faux outrage from small minded dickheads looking to be offended at every opportunity. Looks like they succeeded. Offended at every opportunity?😂 Pot kettle black you hate this country and the people of it don’t you? Perhaps if they didn’t go around their protests the way they do more people in the country would support their cause I know I certainly would . They got arrested because they continued to keep acting that way. To even compare it to the protest yesterday is just delusional and you’ll be happy to know the authorities have said themselves they will be reporting drivers who did break past the road blocks… Please don’t start acting like the police are taking sides in all this when it’s people like you who think it’s acceptable for people to be arrested for tweets 😂 www.standard.co.uk/news/london/just-stop-oil-protests-met-police-costs-matt-twist-lbc-b1096534.htmlOh well don’t be so suprised when we’ve a food shortage and plenty more Amazon plants littering up the countryside polluting the world even more 🤡🤡 |
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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 20, 2024 11:39:38 GMT
Show me the million pounds worth of damage then. As far as I am aware no artwork was damaged, they were covered in glass. It was merely a publicity stunt to highlight the issues and provoke a bit of faux outrage from small minded dickheads looking to be offended at every opportunity. Looks like they succeeded. Offended at every opportunity?😂 Pot kettle black you hate this country and the people of it don’t you? Perhaps if they didn’t go around their protests the way they do more people in the country would support their cause I know I certainly would . They got arrested because they continued to keep acting that way. To even compare it to the protest yesterday is just delusional and you’ll be happy to know the authorities have said themselves they will be reporting drivers who did break past the road blocks… Please don’t start acting like the police are taking sides in all this when it’s people like you who think it’s acceptable for people to be arrested for tweets 😂 www.standard.co.uk/news/london/just-stop-oil-protests-met-police-costs-matt-twist-lbc-b1096534.htmlOh well don’t be so suprised when we’ve a food shortage and plenty more Amazon plants littering up the countryside polluting the world even more 🤡🤡 You would have to be incredibly stupid to think that anyone who posts stuff on social media that is encouraging people to engage in violence is not committing a criminal act. As for the £7million you quoted, that is a mere drop in the ocean in comparison to the orgy of violence we witnessed this summer. It is estimated that the thick racists cost the UK economy somewhere between £200million and £500million. Well done Farage and the other plastic patriots, who are the real haters of this country. |
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Post by weareblues on Nov 20, 2024 12:00:34 GMT
Offended at every opportunity?😂 Pot kettle black you hate this country and the people of it don’t you? Perhaps if they didn’t go around their protests the way they do more people in the country would support their cause I know I certainly would . They got arrested because they continued to keep acting that way. To even compare it to the protest yesterday is just delusional and you’ll be happy to know the authorities have said themselves they will be reporting drivers who did break past the road blocks… Please don’t start acting like the police are taking sides in all this when it’s people like you who think it’s acceptable for people to be arrested for tweets 😂 www.standard.co.uk/news/london/just-stop-oil-protests-met-police-costs-matt-twist-lbc-b1096534.htmlOh well don’t be so suprised when we’ve a food shortage and plenty more Amazon plants littering up the countryside polluting the world even more 🤡🤡 You would have to be incredibly stupid to think that anyone who posts stuff on social media that is encouraging people to engage in violence is not committing a criminal act. As for the £7million you quoted, that is a mere drop in the ocean in comparison to the orgy of violence we witnessed this summer. It is estimated that the thick racists cost the UK economy somewhere between £200million and £500million. Well done Farage and the other plastic patriots, who are the real haters of this country. Just like in 2011 when they cost us just as much if not more then? 😴🤡 What about the riots in Leeds few weeks before they started ? did those who took part in that get fast tracked? Nope. Manchester airport incident? Charged? No So don’t even bother try bring in this divide because people in this country who didn’t even attend the riots are serving more time then any of those two incidents I just mentioned. This isn’t even about any of that it’s about protecting farmers and production of one of the last British owned industries we have left. If people like you was left to run the country it would be a free for all 😴 |
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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 20, 2024 12:11:10 GMT
You would have to be incredibly stupid to think that anyone who posts stuff on social media that is encouraging people to engage in violence is not committing a criminal act. As for the £7million you quoted, that is a mere drop in the ocean in comparison to the orgy of violence we witnessed this summer. It is estimated that the thick racists cost the UK economy somewhere between £200million and £500million. Well done Farage and the other plastic patriots, who are the real haters of this country. Just like in 2011 when they cost us just as much if not more then? 😴🤡 What about the riots in Leeds few weeks before they started ? did those who took part in that get fast tracked? Nope. Manchester airport incident? Charged? No So don’t even bother try bring in this divide because people in this country who didn’t even attend the riots are serving more time then any of those two incidents I just mentioned. Leeds rioters did get fast-tracked, over 30 arrests in the 4 weeks subsequent to the disorder and those responsible for setting the bus on fire got 6 years jail. Can’t believe GB News or Daily Mail missed this. It’s quite pathetic to watch this constant whining and victim-playing. Right wing crybabies need to man up and grow a pair. |
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Post by weareblues on Nov 20, 2024 12:24:09 GMT
Just like in 2011 when they cost us just as much if not more then? 😴🤡 What about the riots in Leeds few weeks before they started ? did those who took part in that get fast tracked? Nope. Manchester airport incident? Charged? No So don’t even bother try bring in this divide because people in this country who didn’t even attend the riots are serving more time then any of those two incidents I just mentioned. Leeds rioters did get fast-tracked, over 30 arrests in the 4 weeks subsequent to the disorder and those responsible for setting the bus on fire got 6 years jail. Can’t believe GB News or Daily Mail missed this. It’s quite pathetic to watch this constant whining and victim-playing. Right wing crybabies need to man up and grow a pair. You and your left wing extremist goons are the biggest victims going 😂 says the one who’s crying over tractors driving down a road despite fact police have already said they’ll all be reported 😴🤡 Have a day off for once in your life |
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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 20, 2024 12:32:01 GMT
Leeds rioters did get fast-tracked, over 30 arrests in the 4 weeks subsequent to the disorder and those responsible for setting the bus on fire got 6 years jail. Can’t believe GB News or Daily Mail missed this. It’s quite pathetic to watch this constant whining and victim-playing. Right wing crybabies need to man up and grow a pair. You and your left wing extremist goons are the biggest victims going 😂 says the one who’s crying over tractors driving down a road despite fact police have already said they’ll all be reported 😴🤡 Have a day off for once in your life No crying from me sweetie, just feel aggrieved I didn’t see any Police baton charges yesterday, despite the obvious provocation. As for the extremist label, I’m not the one beating off over a load of Hooray Henrys, one of whom called for the execution of his fellow citizens for having the temerity to protest against the Government of the day. Creatures like this, and the dribbling idiots who hang off their every word are the extremists, ruining this once great nation. |
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Post by weareblues on Nov 20, 2024 12:38:27 GMT
You and your left wing extremist goons are the biggest victims going 😂 says the one who’s crying over tractors driving down a road despite fact police have already said they’ll all be reported 😴🤡 Have a day off for once in your life No crying from me sweetie, just feel aggrieved I didn’t see any Police baton charges yesterday, despite the obvious provocation. As for the extremist label, I’m not the one beating off over a load of Hooray Henrys, one of whom called for the execution of his fellow citizens for having the temerity to protest against the Government of the day. Creatures like this, and the dribbling idiots who hang off their every word are the extremists, ruining this once great nation. Probably because it wasn’t a violent protest neither was there any confrontation against counter protesters ? Why would there have to be police batons out? The authorities allow plenty of hateful protests go ahead weekly without any confrontation |
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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 20, 2024 12:46:36 GMT
No crying from me sweetie, just feel aggrieved I didn’t see any Police baton charges yesterday, despite the obvious provocation. As for the extremist label, I’m not the one beating off over a load of Hooray Henrys, one of whom called for the execution of his fellow citizens for having the temerity to protest against the Government of the day. Creatures like this, and the dribbling idiots who hang off their every word are the extremists, ruining this once great nation. Probably because it wasn’t a violent protest neither was there any confrontation against counter protesters ? Why would there have to be police batons out? The authorities allow plenty of hateful protests go ahead weekly without any confrontation A lack of violence confrontation has never been a barrier to Police strongarm tactics at countless marches and protests, including a number of Just Stop Oil actions and incredibly the Sara Everard vigil on Clapham Common. |
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Post by weareblues on Nov 20, 2024 12:55:41 GMT
Probably because it wasn’t a violent protest neither was there any confrontation against counter protesters ? Why would there have to be police batons out? The authorities allow plenty of hateful protests go ahead weekly without any confrontation A lack of violence confrontation has never been a barrier to Police strongarm tactics at countless marches and protests, including a number of Just Stop Oil actions and incredibly the Sara Everard vigil on Clapham Common. Oh have a word with yourself 😂 the police allowed them JSO protests to go on for weeks before they acted and even then ive still never seen them use force or batons against them. You’re forgetting they literally distrusted an airport for hours on end… Majority of the ‘activists’ were warned about their actions yet still continued Can’t even be arsed arguing anymore enjoy the countryside being bought and developed by Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos an co don’t start complaining when we’ve a food shortage |
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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 20, 2024 13:18:58 GMT
The arrests of Just Stop Oil activists in Parliament Square in October 2023 and Hendon the month after was certainly ‘robust’, with many peaceful protesters requiring medical treatment.
Interesting that the new Section 7 Public Order Act powers were not used yesterday, despite evidence that demonstrators were contravening a number of these laws.
As for the laughable assumption that I am against U.K. farming or the countryside in general, nothing could be further from the truth. I am against the extremely rich using loopholes to avoid paying their fair share of tax, something us mere mortals cannot do. Also, don’t forget it was the Tories and their failed Brexshit vanity project that has done more to damage U.K. agriculture than anything else.
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Post by Churton Blue on Nov 20, 2024 14:50:31 GMT
Think the debate on farming is quite interesting. Had several relatives that were farmers but they were tenants so inheritance tax on farms was meaningless to them. Despite all the rhetoric I have not see one news report reflect the fact that nearly a third of all farmland in the UK is rented. www.gov.uk/government/statistics/agricultural-facts-england-regional-profiles/agricultural-facts-summaryIt is worrying that a large number of farmers that claim they will be impacted by the changes clearly will not be. Are they simply being disingenuous or are other things coming in to play for political effect. I always remember a farming friend of the family saying that although nearly all farmers voted Conservative, who was in Government made no difference to farming. Strange then that so many vote the way they do ? I do think the No Deal Brexit has been a disaster for everyone including the farmers. This is true whatever side you were on originally. It is ironic the left were always against joining the EU, a fact conveniently forgotten these days. Never seen the EU as a right left issue myself and never helpful to frame it that way in my opinion. |
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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 20, 2024 16:16:34 GMT
Lexit was a disaster, real sixth form politics stuff. Why would anyone promote fundamental change if you have no mechanism to influence the outcomes? As it was the Tories were left with a free hand to do their worst, with typically shit consequences for everyone except the super-rich.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 20, 2024 18:47:54 GMT
Show me the million pounds worth of damage then. As far as I am aware no artwork was damaged, they were covered in glass. It was merely a publicity stunt to highlight the issues and provoke a bit of faux outrage from small minded dickheads looking to be offended at every opportunity. Looks like they succeeded. Offended at every opportunity?😂 Pot kettle black you hate this country and the people of it don’t you? Perhaps if they didn’t go around their protests the way they do more people in the country would support their cause I know I certainly would . They got arrested because they continued to keep acting that way. To even compare it to the protest yesterday is just delusional and you’ll be happy to know the authorities have said themselves they will be reporting drivers who did break past the road blocks… Please don’t start acting like the police are taking sides in all this when it’s people like you who think it’s acceptable for people to be arrested for tweets 😂 www.standard.co.uk/news/london/just-stop-oil-protests-met-police-costs-matt-twist-lbc-b1096534.htmlOh well don’t be so suprised when we’ve a food shortage and plenty more Amazon plants littering up the countryside polluting the world even more 🤡🤡 Go and have a lie down. These rants are embarrassing. |
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Post by theshed1 on Nov 20, 2024 19:18:24 GMT
I wouldn't worry too much about rich farmers now that these clowns have allowed British missiles to be fired into Russia it won't be long before Putin launches his nuclear arsenal
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Post by Churton Blue on Nov 20, 2024 20:23:20 GMT
Lexit was a disaster, real sixth form politics stuff. Why would anyone promote fundamental change if you have no mechanism to influence the outcomes? As it was the Tories were left with a free hand to do their worst, with typically shit consequences for everyone except the super-rich. I was making an historical point about the sixties to eighties not Lexit. When we voted to join the EU there was a three line Labour Whip against joining. The left and centre of the party held firm and the right of the party were castigated massively for voting with the Tories. What is your objective analysis as to what changed and why did the Left oppose EU membership ? As a young member of the Labour Party in the 1980’s was told I should leave the party by several more experienced left wing members for being supportive of the EU. Why do you think that happened ? The whole of the left of the Labour Party including Corbyn were very anti EU for decades. The left did mainly change their minds. Just think the reasons for doing that are worth looking at ? |
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Post by Churton Blue on Nov 20, 2024 21:55:00 GMT
Lexit was a disaster, real sixth form politics stuff. Why would anyone promote fundamental change if you have no mechanism to influence the outcomes? As it was the Tories were left with a free hand to do their worst, with typically shit consequences for everyone except the super-rich. Why were the Tories left with a free hand ? Labour Party could have accepted the democratic vote to leave and back the May version of Brexit ? The consequences of not doing that were entirely predictable at the time. We are all paying the price now of them playing party politics and ignoring the interests of the many and what makes sense. |
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Post by Zvonimir Boban on Nov 21, 2024 0:10:18 GMT
Interesting that the “restore nature” peaceful protest in June had huge numbers marching in London. Far more than were present yesterday but this had little to no effect on public discourse.
Obviously this relates to farming in the sense that large areas of farmland and agriculture are ecological and wildlife deserts which leads to the UK being one of the most nature depleted countries in the world.
Hardly surprising that farmers are protesting within 5 months of Labour being in charge. Look at the protests regarding fox hunting in 2002. Given they have their lapdog press of the Daily Mail and Daily Express trying to dictate public discourse as usual and the support of individuals such as Clarkson it’s hardly surprising it was such big news despite the relative small numbers protesting especially compared to the aforementioned protest this summer. It’s tiresome. It must be like playing FIFA on ‘easy’ mode or supporting Man Utd in the 1990s - you’ve got pretty much everything in your favour but still gotta moan when something doesn’t go your way.
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