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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 11, 2024 15:38:37 GMT
Why do women and children intimidate you? By that I mean to spark a reaction from those remembering. There is absolutely no need for these protests on a day like yesterday even you know it’s wrong. All it’s going to do is create a bigger divide nothing good is ever going to come from it let’s be real I dunno, perhaps they were remembering the 750 British soldiers and policemen murdered by Irgun, Stern Gang and other Israeli terrorists in Palestine between 1946 and 1948. Don’t forget 12,000 Palestinians fought in the British Army during the Second World War, a fact conveniently forgotten by the Billy Britain types. |
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Post by weareblues on Nov 11, 2024 15:48:00 GMT
By that I mean to spark a reaction from those remembering. There is absolutely no need for these protests on a day like yesterday even you know it’s wrong. All it’s going to do is create a bigger divide nothing good is ever going to come from it let’s be real The attacks on Palestine are happening EVERY DAY! Israel didn't stop bombing for Remembrance Day. While that's the case, protests remain relevant. There's a divide because people like you are choosing to create one. Why do you see pro-Palestine demonstrations as an opposition to Remembrance Day rather than in harmony with it? Isn't what we fought for tolerance, diversity, freedom of expression, you know, the things Hitler didn't like? Why should Brits of Palestinian heritage be excluded from the day? Our soldiers didn't die so that war could continue. Remembrance Day should be about what we've learned since. Or is it just about Union Jacks and when we beat the Germans? Selective Remembrance Day. Everyone is quite aware of the attacks in Palestine. None of this is peaceful though especially through a minutes silence are you for real? As for exclusion they have these protests every day of the week ffs. None of these people give one toss about our country or its values and the fact you can’t even accept they should have one day off and let us respect those who thought for us says it all. They’ll had family members themselves that they’re disrespecting whilst they’re at it who died in the war no doubt… Every last tradition in this country is being stripped away whilst all we hear about is Palestine… Could you imagine the outrage if there was a minute silence for everyone who’s died in Palestine during the war and it was interrupted like this? Hypocritical as they come. |
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Post by weareblues on Nov 11, 2024 15:50:34 GMT
By that I mean to spark a reaction from those remembering. There is absolutely no need for these protests on a day like yesterday even you know it’s wrong. All it’s going to do is create a bigger divide nothing good is ever going to come from it let’s be real I dunno, perhaps they were remembering the 750 British soldiers and policemen murdered by Irgun, Stern Gang and other Israeli terrorists in Palestine between 1946 and 1948. Don’t forget 12,000 Palestinians fought in the British Army during the Second World War, a fact conveniently forgotten by the Billy Britain types. If that’s the case then why can’t they stand with everyone else and pay their respects? Why’ve they got to counter protest??? |
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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 11, 2024 15:58:16 GMT
I dunno, perhaps they were remembering the 750 British soldiers and policemen murdered by Irgun, Stern Gang and other Israeli terrorists in Palestine between 1946 and 1948. Don’t forget 12,000 Palestinians fought in the British Army during the Second World War, a fact conveniently forgotten by the Billy Britain types. If that’s the case then why can’t they stand with everyone else and pay their respects? Why’ve they got to counter protest??? Why should they, it’s a free country. People fought and died to allow this sort of thing. I understand you don’t like it, with your very narrow world view and love of a bit of faux outrage, but are you really advocating totalitarianism and state control of who, what, where and when people can protest? |
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Post by Lobster on Nov 11, 2024 15:59:59 GMT
The attacks on Palestine are happening EVERY DAY! Israel didn't stop bombing for Remembrance Day. While that's the case, protests remain relevant. There's a divide because people like you are choosing to create one. Why do you see pro-Palestine demonstrations as an opposition to Remembrance Day rather than in harmony with it? Isn't what we fought for tolerance, diversity, freedom of expression, you know, the things Hitler didn't like? Why should Brits of Palestinian heritage be excluded from the day? Our soldiers didn't die so that war could continue. Remembrance Day should be about what we've learned since. Or is it just about Union Jacks and when we beat the Germans? Selective Remembrance Day. Everyone is quite aware of the attacks in Palestine. None of this is peaceful though especially through a minutes silence are you for real? As for exclusion they have these protests every day of the week ffs. None of these people give one toss about our country or its values and the fact you can’t even accept they should have one day off and let us respect those who thought for us says it all. They’ll had family members themselves that they’re disrespecting whilst they’re at it who died in the war no doubt… Every last tradition in this country is being stripped away whilst all we hear about is Palestine… Could you imagine the outrage if there was a minute silence for everyone who’s died in Palestine during the war and it was interrupted like this? Hypocritical as they come. I'm not going to change your mind. Maybe just try and get less angry about protests and more angry about deaths. And stop following rage-baiting twats on Twitter, it's not good for your wellbeing. |
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Post by Moltisanti on Nov 11, 2024 16:00:37 GMT
The attacks on Palestine are happening EVERY DAY! Israel didn't stop bombing for Remembrance Day. While that's the case, protests remain relevant. There's a divide because people like you are choosing to create one. Why do you see pro-Palestine demonstrations as an opposition to Remembrance Day rather than in harmony with it? Isn't what we fought for tolerance, diversity, freedom of expression, you know, the things Hitler didn't like? Why should Brits of Palestinian heritage be excluded from the day? Our soldiers didn't die so that war could continue. Remembrance Day should be about what we've learned since. Or is it just about Union Jacks and when we beat the Germans? Selective Remembrance Day. Everyone is quite aware of the attacks in Palestine. None of this is peaceful though especially through a minutes silence are you for real? As for exclusion they have these protests every day of the week ffs. None of these people give one toss about our country or its values and the fact you can’t even accept they should have one day off and let us respect those who thought for us says it all. They’ll had family members themselves that they’re disrespecting whilst they’re at it who died in the war no doubt… Every last tradition in this country is being stripped away whilst all we hear about is Palestine… Could you imagine the outrage if there was a minute silence for everyone who’s died in Palestine during the war and it was interrupted like this? Hypocritical as they come. They didn’t think for us. |
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 11, 2024 16:05:47 GMT
Why do women and children intimidate you? By that I mean to spark a reaction from those remembering. There is absolutely no need for these protests on a day like yesterday even you know it’s wrong. All it’s going to do is create a bigger divide nothing good is ever going to come from it let’s be real If anything, a day like yesterday is the 100% perfect day to do so. |
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Post by weareblues on Nov 11, 2024 16:09:40 GMT
If that’s the case then why can’t they stand with everyone else and pay their respects? Why’ve they got to counter protest??? Why should they, it’s a free country. People fought and died to allow this sort of thing. I understand you don’t like it, with your very narrow world view and love of a bit of faux outrage, but are you really advocating totalitarianism and state control of who, what, where and when people can protest? Bet you see an issue when there’s a counter protest against Palestine though don’t you? Can put any money on it that you’d be the first to start with the usual remarks 😴😴 Stop making excuses |
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Post by weareblues on Nov 11, 2024 16:11:25 GMT
Everyone is quite aware of the attacks in Palestine. None of this is peaceful though especially through a minutes silence are you for real? As for exclusion they have these protests every day of the week ffs. None of these people give one toss about our country or its values and the fact you can’t even accept they should have one day off and let us respect those who thought for us says it all. They’ll had family members themselves that they’re disrespecting whilst they’re at it who died in the war no doubt… Every last tradition in this country is being stripped away whilst all we hear about is Palestine… Could you imagine the outrage if there was a minute silence for everyone who’s died in Palestine during the war and it was interrupted like this? Hypocritical as they come. I'm not going to change your mind. Maybe just try and get less angry about protests and more angry about deaths. And stop following rage-baiting twats on Twitter, it's not good for your wellbeing. None of this has anything to do with the Uk though? None of these protests will stop what’s going on in Gaza either… |
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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 11, 2024 16:13:05 GMT
Why should they, it’s a free country. People fought and died to allow this sort of thing. I understand you don’t like it, with your very narrow world view and love of a bit of faux outrage, but are you really advocating totalitarianism and state control of who, what, where and when people can protest? Bet you see an issue when there’s a counter protest against Palestine though don’t you? Can put any money on it that you’d be the first to start with the usual remarks 😴😴 Stop making excuses Talking gibberish now, old man. |
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Post by Lobster on Nov 11, 2024 16:17:14 GMT
I'm not going to change your mind. Maybe just try and get less angry about protests and more angry about deaths. And stop following rage-baiting twats on Twitter, it's not good for your wellbeing. None of this has anything to do with the Uk though? None of these protests will stop what’s going on in Gaza either… Well, none of the Remembrance Day services will bring back the dead either, if we want to be that blasé about it. |
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 11, 2024 16:22:32 GMT
I'm old enough to remember the "British patriots" with the "British values" you speak of causing all the trouble around the cenotaph last year...
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Post by Moltisanti on Nov 11, 2024 16:25:38 GMT
I blame Lennon..
Not John.
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Post by weareblues on Nov 11, 2024 16:35:03 GMT
None of this has anything to do with the Uk though? None of these protests will stop what’s going on in Gaza either… Well, none of the Remembrance Day services will bring back the dead either, if we want to be that blasé about it. It’s paying basic respect to those who gave everything so we could live the life we all do today… If you can’t respect that then don’t say anything at all unless your looking to spark a reaction which is what the far left thrive on |
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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 11, 2024 16:42:58 GMT
Well, none of the Remembrance Day services will bring back the dead either, if we want to be that blasé about it. It’s paying basic respect to those who gave everything so we could live the life we all do today… If you can’t respect that then don’t say anything at all unless your looking to spark a reaction which is what the far left thrive on Not sure why you are so angry, nobody on here has disrespected Remembrance Day. |
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Post by Lobster on Nov 11, 2024 16:55:00 GMT
Well, none of the Remembrance Day services will bring back the dead either, if we want to be that blasé about it. It’s paying basic respect to those who gave everything so we could live the life we all do today… If you can’t respect that then don’t say anything at all unless your looking to spark a reaction which is what the far left thrive on I completely respect it, and observed it actually. But you're arguing the pro-Palestine demonstrations are unimportant, irrelevant and meaningless. Not to the 40,000+ Palestinians killed and their families, they're not.
You say it won't change anything, but five minutes on Wikipedia shows that we are more than complicit in what's going on over there, so it's not just a whine about something happening on the other side of the world.
British ministers have openly endorsed Israel's forced evacuation orders and unlawful collective punishment of the Gaza Strip, without condemning any of Israel's policies despite the mounting death toll.[6]
Israel used British-supplied weapons in the war.[7][8][9] 15% of the components of each Israeli F-35 fighter jet are made by British companies, including BAE Systems.[10] According to the Campaign Against Arms Trade, the UK has granted arms export licences to Israel amounting to £574 million ($727 million) since 2008, including £42 million ($53 million) in 2022.[11] Despite growing calls from various international organizations, over 600 members of the British legal profession, and three former senior British judges who argue that the UK's arms sales to Israel violate international law,[12] Foreign Secretary David Cameron said on 9 April 2024, that the United Kingdom will not cease its arms sales to Israel.[13] International human rights organizations such as Human Rights Watch have criticized the UK for its military and diplomatic support to Israel, arguing that such support could render the UK complicit in Israeli war crimes and genocide.[14][15] As of October 2024, it is estimated that the conflict has resulted in the killing of over 42,000 Palestinians.
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Post by weareblues on Nov 11, 2024 17:02:34 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 11, 2024 17:18:43 GMT
Murders have almost halved in the past 20 years. I understand the right wing media need to spread fear, hatred and distrust to carry their message, do you?  |
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Post by weareblues on Nov 11, 2024 17:39:12 GMT
Murders have almost halved in the past 20 years. I understand the right wing media need to spread fear, hatred and distrust to carry their message, do you? View AttachmentNothing to do with being right or left wing any little fucker caught with a blade should face 10 years minimum Let’s not pretend everything is fine in this country when it comes to stuff like this because it really ain’t. There’s a clear rise in knife crime and innocent people are losing their lives because of it www.statista.com/statistics/864736/knife-crime-in-london/#:~:text=A%20wider%20trend,of%20homicides%20in%202022/23. |
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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 11, 2024 17:50:48 GMT
Murders have almost halved in the past 20 years. I understand the right wing media need to spread fear, hatred and distrust to carry their message, do you? View AttachmentNothing to do with being right or left wing any little fucker caught with a blade should face 10 years minimum Let’s not pretend everything is fine in this country when it comes to stuff like this because it really ain’t. There’s a clear rise in knife crime and innocent people are losing their lives because of it www.statista.com/statistics/864736/knife-crime-in-london/#:~:text=A%20wider%20trend,of%20homicides%20in%202022/23. Nearly 500 fewer murders each year compared to 20 years ago, so silver linings and all that. |
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Post by Maravilla on Nov 12, 2024 23:21:12 GMT
Looks like Justin Welby has lost the confidence of the blessing room.
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Post by weareblues on Nov 15, 2024 8:54:58 GMT
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 15, 2024 9:01:11 GMT
You do know both types of things can be dealt with? And are being dealt with.
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Post by weareblues on Nov 15, 2024 9:16:39 GMT
You do know both types of things can be dealt with? And are being dealt with. Police don’t need to be involved for kids being kids… Surely you have to agree they’ve better things to be focusing on? Can guarantee they’ll be quicker to respond to some nasty words then they would if your house got broken into. |
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 15, 2024 9:30:24 GMT
The police serve no purpose to ourselves anyway to be fair.
They protect the state, nothing more.
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Post by Lobster on Nov 15, 2024 15:42:19 GMT
You do know both types of things can be dealt with? And are being dealt with. Police don’t need to be involved for kids being kids… Surely you have to agree they’ve better things to be focusing on? Can guarantee they’ll be quicker to respond to some nasty words then they would if your house got broken into. Without context it's hard to comment. On face level I'd agree these incidents should be dealt with by the school rather than the police, but what if the nine-year-old was told to say that by their parents? What if the person being bullied for their smell was subjected to it for months and ended up taking their life? If a kid was repeatedly using hateful terms and the school's measures weren't working, I would expect it to be escalated to the police, personally. |
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Post by Curva Nord on Nov 15, 2024 16:14:14 GMT
Smelly people should be mocked until they wash themselves
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Post by iandychesterfc on Nov 19, 2024 14:15:24 GMT
Looks like Justin Welby has lost the confidence of the blessing room. I dont care if you've ripped this. quality stuff. |
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Post by iandychesterfc on Nov 19, 2024 14:17:50 GMT
Only thing that annoyed me of late was 470 civil servants flew to Azerbaijan for a climate conference. Just cant be doing with it.
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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 19, 2024 15:52:08 GMT
Only thing that annoyed me of late was 470 civil servants flew to Azerbaijan for a climate conference. Just cant be doing with it. There were 470 British 'delegates', but a quick look at the lists provided you see that this number included civil servants, MPs HoL members, politicians and civil servants from Crown dependencies, people from GB News, Sky News, Kew Gardens, Times, ITV, National Grid, Octopus Energy, etc etc etc. Shouldn’t believe everything you read in the Daily Mail or The Torygraph. |
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