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Post by Moltisanti on Oct 23, 2024 5:35:20 GMT
If we’re going to scapegoat players then let’s talk about players who are unscapegoatable to some.
If we’re going to do this, I’ll join in.
Woodworth. Awful performance yet again like the last month. Gave the ball away at least half a dozen times. Apparently he’s going to be a football league player. (LOL)
Iwan Murray. Too small, easily bullied and anonymous like most times he starts. Bring him on towards the end player. He should not be starting at this level.
Kevin Roberts - Woeful. Like Bambi on ice. Time to start winding it down I think.
Not one player played well last night. Most cowardly performance in Cals tenure.
(Glendon also garbage last night before the people whose 80% of posts are about Glendon) pipe up.
* Forgot about Weeks and how bad he was. Played worse than the smell of the urinals in the main stand.
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Post by agl on Oct 23, 2024 6:16:31 GMT
Isn't it about time we stopped messing with Burke and use him in midfield, with Bainbridge? Going right back to the play off defeat by Brackley, most of our problems seem to stem from getting the midfield wrong, or unbalanced. We were supposed to be more physical this year but went in last night with Glendon, Weeks and Murray. Madness.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 23, 2024 6:20:26 GMT
It’s the team selection and tactics he uses. The players play where they are told to and the formation the manager wants. It’s getting worse. If team moral suffers because let’s face it the players get the stick whilst the manager suggests it’s the players, long season ahead methinks Literally changed the team/tactics to what most wanted too for tonight and got the same outcome, what do you want next? Top and bottom is this lies with the players, how many saying they couldn't pick a MOTM, says it all. A midfield three of Weeks, Glendon and Murray at this level against these teams is suicide. Which one of those three is winning your midfield battles? |
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Post by eltonblues on Oct 23, 2024 6:46:55 GMT
Isn't it about time we stopped messing with Burke and use him in midfield, with Bainbridge? Going right back to the play off defeat by Brackley, most of our problems seem to stem from getting the midfield wrong, or unbalanced. We were supposed to be more physical this year but went in last night with Glendon, Weeks and Murray. Madness. It's quite telling that Burke has been the one player this season who gets the ball down and goes on an attacking run.for me though we need to keep him at the back, and get him so consistent that we can bring decent money in for him in the Summer to help build a stronger squad with the money. |
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Post by blue4life on Oct 23, 2024 7:03:25 GMT
Well, giggle if you want. Certainly wasn't the team or tactics I wanted. I was concerned as soon as I saw it. Did he drop Bainbridge? Slight knock so was rested. |
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Post by billyw on Oct 23, 2024 7:07:08 GMT
Isn't it about time we stopped messing with Burke and use him in midfield, with Bainbridge? Going right back to the play off defeat by Brackley, most of our problems seem to stem from getting the midfield wrong, or unbalanced. We were supposed to be more physical this year but went in last night with Glendon, Weeks and Murray. Madness. It's quite telling that Burke has been the one player this season who gets the ball down and goes on an attacking run.for me though we need to keep him at the back, and get him so consistent that we can bring decent money in for him in the Summer to help build a stronger squad with the money. With Pollock and Rawlinson at the back, surely it has to be worthwhile giving Burke a run in midfield - let’s face it, things cant get any worse. |
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Post by Al on Oct 23, 2024 7:09:05 GMT
If we’re going to scapegoat players then let’s talk about players who are unscapegoatable to some. If we’re going to do this, I’ll join in. Woodworth. Awful performance yet again like the last month. Gave the ball away at least half a dozen times. Apparently he’s going to be a football league player. (LOL) Iwan Murray. Too small, easily bullied and anonymous like most times he starts. Bring him on towards the end player. He should not be starting at this level. Kevin Roberts - Woeful. Like Bambi on ice. Time to start winding it down I think. Not one player played well last night. Most cowardly performance in Cals tenure. (Glendon also garbage last night before the people whose 80% of posts are about Glendon) pipe up. * Forgot about Weeks and how bad he was. Played worse than the smell of the urinals in the main stand. Woodthorpe was abysmal, Roberts shouldnt have been right back, missing Bainbridge so Robbo should have sat infront of the back 4 and allowed Glendon, Weeks or Murray forward. Problem is as well, its so boringly predictable. We take about 4 or 5 passes to switch from left to right by the time we get the ball wide Buxton have 3 or 4 white shirts on us so we to backwards again and again 4 or 5 passes out to the left and its rinse and repeat. Can copy and paste that scenario for the last 3 years. |
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Post by Si on Oct 23, 2024 7:16:30 GMT
Happy that at least Cal played Willoughby through the middle last night, but feel like it might just be a "told you so" to the fans and because it didn't work for one game he'll be back on the wing on Saturday. Tactically nothing is really working, is Cal too stubborn to try a change of system? As others have said, we have the personnel to go 3-5-2. Can't help but feeling like the trendy formations just don't suit us, and lets just go four four fkin two......defence is fine, DMH/Weeks/Bainbridge/Hancox as your 4 in midfield, Caton and Kurt up top. The players do have to take some responsibility too - we can point the finger at Cal for how we're set up but there's enough experienced players in there that we know can play a lot better and should be able to adapt to beat a limited team like Buxton.
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Post by yoshimitsu on Oct 23, 2024 7:17:00 GMT
Good thread this.
Seven pages in and it hasn’t descended into a personal slagging match.
Seems we all agree that drastic action is needed.
Without that, Cal, as much as I want him to succeed, will be gone by Xmas.
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Post by devadiva on Oct 23, 2024 7:19:28 GMT
Must say it’s the first season for a v long time that I don’t feel v enthusiastic about so early on. Same manager, same tactics, same problems, same post match interview after every game, same comments on DC from fans who can see the problems. Doing the same thing all the time and expecting a different outcome is the first sign of madness…and it ain’t gonna get us promoted.
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Post by Si on Oct 23, 2024 7:24:53 GMT
Good thread this. Seven pages in and it hasn’t descended into a personal slagging match. Seems we all agree that drastic action is needed. Without that, Cal, as much as I want him to succeed, will be gone by Xmas. I said at the start of the season that with the squad he assembled then there's no excuse for not being in realistic contention for the title, and certainly anything less than play offs would be a complete failure and he should leave the club if that happens. We're not miles off the top places as things stand, but the form has slumped to resemble the 2nd half of last season which is really worrying and maybe demonstrates that Cal hasn't really learnt the lessons from last years failings. I think lets see where we are at Xmas, but it worries me that we have a great squad on paper but at the moment I don't think anyone could realistically say we look like a title winning team, which would be a massive wasted opportunity given that nobody will run away with it this year. If we're languishing in mid table come Christmas then the board will start to come under some pressure as a new manager bounce could see us right up there again if the league continues the way it's started. I really really want Cal to succeed, but every time we seem to turn a corner we alarmingly slump back into poor form and when the football becomes that dull and turgid it's no wonder fans get pissed off with it. Lets have it right, he's had a lot more patience than other managers would have had, and rightly so because he's one of us and he lives and breaths the club, but he's just got to do better than this. |
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 23, 2024 7:30:37 GMT
Get Neil Turner back on these post match interviews too. These questions are not probing enough and at least Neil says it how it is. He's still doing them, the club don't use him though for the in-house interview anymore so only appear on Radio Merseyside.
Not sure about the manager’s bigging up of Buxton - “full time side, big spenders”. Didn’t someone say they’re full time but low budget so full of younger unheard of players? Also their record this season was two wins in 12 before last night - one against ten-men Rushall and the other against Barwell Town, and they were just above the relegation zone! Even Anders reckons they’re certs for relegation yet the manager is talking like they’re prime Pep’s Barca of 2009-11. |
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Post by tarvinblue on Oct 23, 2024 7:31:54 GMT
Back to where we were last season. Same performance each week and same post-match interviews. We lack any creativity and the forward players are totally stifled. Look at Motley-Henry since he's arrived, has barely touched the ball. You could go through the whole team last night and pull out poor performances. The midfield was abysmal but so much about Cal's tactical approach is wrong. For 2.5 seasons he's told us that he will sort the issues out but bar the odd patch here and there we are consistently disappointed - particularly at home. This needs turning around quickly before another season drifts away.
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Post by villagercfc on Oct 23, 2024 7:34:38 GMT
He's still doing them, the club don't use him though for the in-house interview anymore so only appear on Radio Merseyside.
Not sure about the manager’s bigging up of Buxton - “full time side, big spenders”. Didn’t someone say they’re full time but low budget so full of younger unheard of players? Also their record this season was two wins in 12 before last night - one against ten-men Rushall and the other against Barwell Town, and they were just above the relegation zone! Even Anders reckons they’re certs for relegation yet the manager is talking like they’re prime Pep’s Barca of 2009-11. This is the same manager that also said we played well second half…. The same manager that picks Weeks and Glendon no matter what. Cal’s job is safe though no matter how bad it gets, his mates on the board won’t change anything. |
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Post by Harry Lime on Oct 23, 2024 7:35:42 GMT
It’s the team selection and tactics he uses. The players play where they are told to and the formation the manager wants. It’s getting worse. If team moral suffers because let’s face it the players get the stick whilst the manager suggests it’s the players, long season ahead methinks and got the same outcome, what do you want next? Top and bottom is this lies with the players, how many saying they couldn't pick a MOTM, says it all. If you thought before the game that was a balanced team to put out, I'd be very surprised. If you thought by half time that was a balanced team, and the correct team to put out, I'd be astonished. |
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Post by Harry Lime on Oct 23, 2024 7:36:33 GMT
Well, giggle if you want. Certainly wasn't the team or tactics I wanted. I was concerned as soon as I saw it. Did he drop Bainbridge? Got a slight knock apparently. Same with Rawlinson. |
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Post by cestrian60 on Oct 23, 2024 7:36:58 GMT
Is there any possibility of reprogramming the scoreboard to produce a quiz during the game. At least it would make the 90 mins more bearable.
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Post by RonD on Oct 23, 2024 7:38:10 GMT
Is there any possibility of reprogramming the scoreboard to produce a quiz during the game. At least it would make the 90 mins more bearable. We were saying a few old TV re-runs!? 📺 |
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Post by Moltisanti on Oct 23, 2024 7:40:01 GMT
Got a slight knock apparently. Same with Rawlinson. I know but people were suggesting he was dropped for the sake of it. 👍🏼 |
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Post by Vaughan Hall on Oct 23, 2024 7:40:12 GMT
Back to where we were last season. Same performance each week and same post-match interviews. We lack any creativity and the forward players are totally stifled. Look at Motley-Henry since he's arrived, has barely touched the ball. You could go through the whole team last night and pull out poor performances. The midfield was abysmal but so much about Cal's tactical approach is wrong. For 2.5 seasons he's told us that he will sort the issues out but bar the odd patch here and there we are consistently disappointed - particularly at home. This needs turning around quickly before another season drifts away. This is an important point. Someone posted our attendances recently and three of our top five record attendances were in that play off season. I'm not saying 'sack the manager' but the lack of goals means atmosphere slumps and numbers decline. (Also three years is a long time. Those key players that get a lot of stick on here have been listening to the same voice for a long time. You can like CM and want him to succeed and also accept that football teams just need a certain level of churn, managers included) |
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Post by Moltisanti on Oct 23, 2024 7:42:13 GMT
Not sure about the manager’s bigging up of Buxton - “full time side, big spenders”. Didn’t someone say they’re full time but low budget so full of younger unheard of players? Also their record this season was two wins in 12 before last night - one against ten-men Rushall and the other against Barwell Town, and they were just above the relegation zone! Even Anders reckons they’re certs for relegation yet the manager is talking like they’re prime Pep’s Barca of 2009-11. This is the same manager that also said we played well second half…. The same manager that picks Weeks and Glendon no matter what. Cal’s job is safe though no matter how bad it gets, his mates on the board won’t change anything. This is what starts the arguments off. Dickhead comments like this. All you post is digs at the board. 😴 |
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Post by Harry Lime on Oct 23, 2024 7:46:16 GMT
Got a slight knock apparently. Same with Rawlinson. I know but people were suggesting he was dropped for the sake of it. 👍🏼 Ah! Wasn't aware of that. Someone I was talking to before the game said he thought Bainbridge and Rawlinson would be missing with knocks. Then the team came out. Let's hope it was a slight knock and he's fine for Saturday. |
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Post by Harry Lime on Oct 23, 2024 7:49:35 GMT
I'd absolve Caton from any criticism last night. I thought he tried his nuts off and looked our sole threat for most of the game.
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Post by chesterifa on Oct 23, 2024 7:51:54 GMT
I want to see Glendon and Weeks benched. Pains me to say that cus we do really need one of them playing. But i want them benched. Turner deserves to start. He hasn't even put a foot wrong and looks sharp and creative. Hancox, throw him on. Get Bainbridge back in and dare I say it, get Burke somewhat next to / in a Weeks role. Hunter for Robbo who has Molti said, is past it. He is past it, he can't physically match these players in this league. We need proper change and these players who expect to start every single week need to be knocked down a peg or two.
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Post by villagercfc on Oct 23, 2024 7:54:41 GMT
This is the same manager that also said we played well second half…. The same manager that picks Weeks and Glendon no matter what. Cal’s job is safe though no matter how bad it gets, his mates on the board won’t change anything. This is what starts the arguments off. Dickhead comments like this. All you post is digs at the board. 😴 Since November 2023 we have won 6 out of a possible 20 away games. In the same calendar year we have failed to score in 11 out of 20 home games. Don’t mean to have a dig at the board but the form in the last 12 months has been worrying. Apart from a few flash in the pan games we have been on the whole, poor. |
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Post by Harry Lime on Oct 23, 2024 7:55:48 GMT
If we’re going to scapegoat players then let’s talk about players who are unscapegoatable to some. If we’re going to do this, I’ll join in. Woodworth. Awful performance yet again like the last month. Gave the ball away at least half a dozen times. Apparently he’s going to be a football league player. (LOL) Iwan Murray. Too small, easily bullied and anonymous like most times he starts. Bring him on towards the end player. He should not be starting at this level. Kevin Roberts - Woeful. Like Bambi on ice. Time to start winding it down I think. Not one player played well last night. Most cowardly performance in Cals tenure. (Glendon also garbage last night before the people whose 80% of posts are about Glendon) pipe up. * Forgot about Weeks and how bad he was. Played worse than the smell of the urinals in the main stand. I think it was telling that Woodthorpe and Roberts kept giving the ball away last night. They're usually 7 out of 10 most week players. That suggests a lack of available passes for them to make, and they tried to force them. |
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Post by bing on Oct 23, 2024 8:05:13 GMT
Calling for CM's head is a bit OTT - it's not like we're languishing around the relegation zone. A few weeks ago the HMS Piss The League brigade were out in full force!
However, the warning signs are there. I was more confident we would put in a better attacking display against Scunthorpe than I was Buxton and that shouldn't be the case.
The optimist in me was hoping we'd pummel Buxton for the first 20 minutes given that they were a team bereft of confidence. CM has always had a pragmatic approach and likes to grow into games, feeling out the opposition, but against this sort of side I'd like to see us go in for the kill early on and get the crowd up for it.
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Post by dc2cfc on Oct 23, 2024 8:17:06 GMT
Really frustrating last night and the whole crowd could see how it was going to unfold as the game went on. If Kurt scores that penalty and we draw it would paper over the cracks on how we are set up
- The midfield combination doesn't work, we need something different in the middle. In Cal's first season we had Roberts, Weeks, Devine and Lynch and they seemed to complement eachother, bringing Glendon back into the mix has never worked
- The last three home games, the away teams centre halves have never had it so easy and not even broke out a sweat, the ball is crossed into no-one and easily cleared.
- We need two up top as anyone who plays down the middle is completely isolated and has no one to work out. Peers played well on Saturday and held it up well, but no was within 10 yards of him
- Caton looked really good last night on the right hand side cutting in, but when he did cross no one was there to take the ball
- The shooting before the game is a pointless exercise, why practice all that then when it comes to the ball on the edge of the box you pass it sideways
- I honestly feel like if you brought on Cam Mason and put the Elyh Harrison in attacking midfield or up front he would have peppered their goal with shots!
We need a 3-5-2 mix up on Saturday and going forward, the 4-3-3 doesn't work its too slow and predictable, no one is anywhere near eachother
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Post by highpeakblue on Oct 23, 2024 8:17:42 GMT
I've been on the fence since the Summer. He said he'd identified the problems and brought in Bainbridge, a good first step. However, it seemed to stop there.
Willoughby and Peers are not the answer together, without the big target man that we seem to be crying out for. Too many of the same type of player.
Same in midfield. He doesn't seem to learn, which surely is a fault in a manager. It will stop him progressing.
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Post by weareblues on Oct 23, 2024 8:22:48 GMT
Weeks and Glendon together are great on their day just the fact their day comes once every 7 games Nowhere near consistent enough need to find a system to work or get rid of one as it simply isn’t working and hasn’t for years now.
Next 3-5 games are huge need to getting atleast 3 wins minimum if we want to be challenging for promotion this season. Otherwise can just see us in the same league in the same position yet again next season.
Get behind them Saturday they need our support more then ever right now
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