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Post by league2 on Oct 26, 2024 16:03:23 GMT
Curzon are a way better side than us No shit Sherlock Sure are Watson get over it |
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Post by milnerisgod on Oct 26, 2024 16:04:01 GMT
Like a few others on here, I've never called Cal out before, but today feels like a turning point for me.
Too many woeful performances and echoes of last season. 32 years a season ticket holder and it's at the point where I really don't look forward to games any more, so God knows how we are meant to encourage new fans down to the Deva.
I'm still not going to say 100% he has to go, or even if finances/replacement options make getting rid of Callum a realistic proposition, but something has to change, and change quickly. There has been no evidence over the last 12 months or so that Callum has the ability or tactical nous to fix things. It's beginning to feel like NLN may be Chester FCs level, which is bloody soul destroying tbh.
When the likes of Rio are leaving games early, you know we've got a serious problem.
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Post by lj19 on Oct 26, 2024 16:05:55 GMT
Worse performance I’ve seen in my 30 years of watching Chester. He’s clearly lost the dressing room and now he’s lost the Fanbase, no way back from here! Serious questions need to asked or are we just happy to be a mid table regional football outfit?
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 26, 2024 16:07:08 GMT
It is shite at the moment but on the surface it isn't walking/sackable stuff. Football followers on the outside looking in at this seasons results, form, table etc would be absolutely bemused if he left now.
We are only in October, only two points off playoffs. Only lost two this week on the back of a nine-match unbeaten run in the league. Gates still above 2,000. Any non-Chester fan looking at that would reflect badly on our club/board if the manager was to go based on that. And the club should only really act if fans start voting with their feet and the financial implications of that - I am often bored shitless at the Deva but we’re still bringing in 2k+ gates.
It is shite, yes, but it’s still changeable. All in the manager’s hands still, if he makes the necessary changes and doesn’t double-down on his stance out of spite then it’s easily salvageable.
Time for level heads lads.
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Post by weareblues on Oct 26, 2024 16:07:12 GMT
What a disgrace from start to finish we’ve learnt fuck all since last season. Absolutely spineles seriously hope glendon never plays for us again. Didn’t even have the balls to come over and applaud fans at end.
One of our highest earners and so called ‘Captain’
Spineless pricks time accept this is our level and we ain’t gonna go anywhere anytime soon
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Post by kevlar on Oct 26, 2024 16:07:35 GMT
Sure are Watson get over it Easy tiger, no way should they tonk us like that |
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Post by Royal Blue on Oct 26, 2024 16:09:46 GMT
Well so much for our solid defence then, the only thing that was working well. Something has to change and quickly.
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Post by milnerisgod on Oct 26, 2024 16:15:05 GMT
It is shite at the moment but on the surface it isn't walking/sackable stuff. Football followers on the outside looking in at this seasons results, form, table etc would be absolutely bemused if he left now. We are only in October, only two points off playoffs. Only lost two this week on the back of a nine-match unbeaten run in the league. Gates still above 2,000. Any non-Chester fan looking at that would reflect badly on our club/board if the manager was to go based on that. It is shite, yes, but it’s still changeable. All in the manager’s hands still, if he makes the necessary changes and doesn’t double-down on his stance out of spite then it’s easily salvageable. Time for level heads lads. All fair points, but for me it's not just the losses this week, but the style of play over the past few months. We are absolutely dire to watch most weeks and a lot of the matches have just been down to pure luck as to which team took the points away by the odd goal. All that has meant that, although our league position hadn't been bad (or, to be fair, was excellent), I always feel we are more in danger of a slip down the table than a rise up it, so as soon as a slip begins, it's harder to see a way out. I've absolutely no faith in a 'reaction' next week. We'll set up the same way we always do and maybe win 1-0, maybe lose 1-0. The only thing I'm sure of is that it'll be miserable to watch. Though I promise if we play an absolute blinder next week, I'll be back on here with a huge slice of humble pie. I would love to be proven wrong. |
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Post by glosblue on Oct 26, 2024 16:15:31 GMT
Very, very sadly, It has to be time for Cal to go. This team is awful. We're dull, boring and predictable. We play sideways all the time, have little physical presence, are rubbish at set pieces (both ends of the pitch), and are very easy to defend against. With one exception - Bainbridge, who has been largely great - none of his signings this season have worked, and arguably none did last year either. We're very well supported at this level, and I simply fail to believe we are disadvantaged financialy against the majority of other sides in this league.
It really is a shame, because I think he's a top bloke, and one of us, but as someone pointed out elsewhere - the club doesn't owe anyone a living. He has one style of playing, and seemingly no idea how to change things if that isn't working - which since the start of this calendar year has been most of the time. He persists in playing players completely out of form - Weeks and Glendon being the obvious examples - and regularly puts out a side with a midfield that isn't physically capable of competing well enough at this level.
A great shame, but we're just drifting at the moment.
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Post by gtowizard on Oct 26, 2024 16:16:43 GMT
It is shite at the moment but on the surface it isn't walking/sackable stuff. Football followers on the outside looking in at this seasons results, form, table etc would be absolutely bemused if he left now. We are only in October, only two points off playoffs. Only lost two this week on the back of a nine-match unbeaten run in the league. Gates still above 2,000. Any non-Chester fan looking at that would reflect badly on our club/board if the manager was to go based on that. And the club should only really act if fans start voting with their feet and the financial implications of that - I am often bored shitless at the Deva but we’re still bringing in 2k+ gates. It is shite, yes, but it’s still changeable. All in the manager’s hands still, if he makes the necessary changes and doesn’t double-down on his stance out of spite then it’s easily salvageable. Time for level heads lads. Never thought I’d see the day you talk sense but credit where it’s due |
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Post by league2 on Oct 26, 2024 16:17:06 GMT
Sure are Watson get over it Easy tiger, no way should they tonk us like that I know they shouldn't,but that is where we are as a club at the moment |
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Post by deesideblue1 on Oct 26, 2024 16:17:58 GMT
Went today as it’s one the aways I can manage if I work the morning.
Absolute disgrace. Left once the 4th went in.
Looks like he’s lost the dressing room.
Does he jump before he’s pushed?
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Post by gtowizard on Oct 26, 2024 16:18:17 GMT
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Post by muffinthemule on Oct 26, 2024 16:18:18 GMT
Our defence has been heroic at times this season with our midfield overrun most games they have kept us on an even keel
It had to succumb to the inevitable one day. This is the day. So glad I gave it a miss. If Cal is still there next Saturday I'll probably give that a miss too as I'm thoroughly pissed off with crap 'football' that has no tactics.
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Post by devadiva on Oct 26, 2024 16:18:19 GMT
We need a good start to a tricky run of fixtures - otherwise mid table mediocrity beckons (yet again). Possible changes to tactics and formations and starting 11 have been done to death in other threads - regardless of the result, I want to see a positive reaction to the last game from Cal and the team, with everyone playing like their lives depend on it. Had a bad feeling about today and couldn’t face going. It’s been a chore for far too long this season. Glad I didn’t and listened to Seals Live instead. It doesn’t sound like the players had any fight in them, no positive reaction to Buxton game and whether you like him or not, if the players aren’t playing for the manager, then the writing is usually on the wall. Shame if it happens but Cal can’t say he didn’t have enough notice and enough chances. He had too many (which may have been the problem). I may be wrong but didn’t he say he’d not hold out for a pay off - hope he lives up to that. Not sure who’d come in to replace him but maybe Kev Roberts as a temporary? Hereford next - they are flying too - only 2 points off the top. 😬😬😬 |
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 26, 2024 16:18:30 GMT
It is shite at the moment but on the surface it isn't walking/sackable stuff. Football followers on the outside looking in at this seasons results, form, table etc would be absolutely bemused if he left now. We are only in October, only two points off playoffs. Only lost two this week on the back of a nine-match unbeaten run in the league. Gates still above 2,000. Any non-Chester fan looking at that would reflect badly on our club/board if the manager was to go based on that. It is shite, yes, but it’s still changeable. All in the manager’s hands still, if he makes the necessary changes and doesn’t double-down on his stance out of spite then it’s easily salvageable. Time for level heads lads. All fair points, but for me it's not just the losses this week, but the style of play over the past few months. We are absolutely dire to watch most weeks and a lot of the matches have just been down to pure luck as to which team took the points away by the odd goal. All that has meant that, although our league position hadn't been bad (or, to be fair, was excellent), I always feel we are more in danger of a slip down the table than a rise up it, so as soon as a slip begins, it's harder to see a way out. I've absolutely no faith in a 'reaction' next week. Well set up the same way we always do and maybe win 1-0, maybe lose 1-0. The only thing I'm sure of is that it'll be miserable to watch. Though I promise if we play an absolute blinder next week, I'll be back on here with a huge slice of humble pie. I would love to be proven wrong. Sorry I did edit the post after you quoted it to mention how boring the football is too, however as above - the club shouldn’t really act until the gates plummet and the financial implications of that. We are still pulling in over 2,000. |
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Post by weareblues on Oct 26, 2024 16:21:55 GMT
No idea how Curzon manage this when we've got 8x the budget. Because indivudal effort costs nothing |
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Post by daz on Oct 26, 2024 16:22:00 GMT
We won't be pulling 2000 soon, we'll be down to 1600. Hereford bringing 200-300 may keep next weekends attendance around 2000 but if we don't win that then we'll be going down towards 1500
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Post by kevlar on Oct 26, 2024 16:22:36 GMT
Went today as it’s one the aways I can manage if I work the morning. Absolute disgrace. Left once the 4th went in. Looks like he’s lost the dressing room. Does he jump before he’s pushed? I doubt it if he’s as stubborn as he’s been with team selection and expecting different results doing the same thing tactically since time immemorial |
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Post by thebluecamp on Oct 26, 2024 16:23:29 GMT
It would appear somewhat obvious that Cal (unfortunately) is not the manager to take us forward. Although he has previously intimated that he would relinquish his contract and "walk" free of charge - do you honestly expect him to do so ? Whether he does or not could determine what we can afford, and who we replace him with. Any thoughts ?
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Post by archwhopper on Oct 26, 2024 16:34:13 GMT
Go now sidebottom
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Post by kevlar on Oct 26, 2024 16:35:57 GMT
I’m trying to find an answer how we got here.
Following the euphoria (and fantastic entertainment) of Kurt’s winner against Scarborough, I watched Cals post match interview again.
It was obvious from that interview he’d much rather forget entertainment value for the fans and much prefer going back to grinding out a 1-0 borefest instead.
If you can be arsed after todays result have a look, quite telling as to his footballing mentality
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Post by milnerisgod on Oct 26, 2024 16:36:10 GMT
It would appear somewhat obvious that Cal (unfortunately) is not the manager to take us forward. Although he has previously intimated that he would relinquish his contract and "walk" free of charge - do you honestly expect him to do so ? Whether he does or not could determine what we can afford, and who we replace him with. Any thoughts ? Obviously finances would be a major factor, but I still think we are a good draw for the right manager and there would be a few decent candidates should the post become available. We've a large, loyal fan base, a bit of history (albeit a long time ago now!), a decent set-up and, dare I say it, a solid squad. The hardest part would be the pressure such a role comes with, but there's plenty of managers would thrive on it. IMHO, all we are lacking is somebody with a few Plan Bs and a willingness to take risks. Whilst we've still got a manager in situ, I would hope that he can finally realise his faults and come good. If not, I wouldn't be too worried about who we could entice to take over (with that very big caveat of 'finances allowing'). |
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Post by Harry Lime on Oct 26, 2024 16:37:32 GMT
This has been bubbling through 2024 to be fair.
I know people are frustrated by the results when we don't win, but the main thing that has got people to this stage is the style of football. As most have posted the games are just really dull watches. I lost the will to go early 2024,but kept going because I enjoy the group we watch the games with, and I'm a season ticket holder.
Anyone over 35yo has been brought up on a different type (and standard) of football. Lower league football wasn't pretty, but there was an athletic aggressive mainly attacking style, which we were used to. Now the game has changed into a rotate and manoeuvre the ball round the pitch in a possession style. We're also a division or two lower, so the standard is worse.
Curzon today had an athletic aggressive midfield, which we couldn't cope with. The style of player just gave our tippy tappy players no space, and were not good enough or quick enough to overcome it. Combined with moving players around into ineffective position meant we just couldn't cope. Giving them three goals from poor marking, poor passing and a poor challenge was the icing on the cake.
The squad needs a shake up. At least two out and two in. Minimum. Might want to make sure the ones we bring in can last more than a week, before their old injury reoccurs.
I would expect this to happen quickly. It needs to.
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Post by devadiva on Oct 26, 2024 16:42:17 GMT
It is shite at the moment but on the surface it isn't walking/sackable stuff. Football followers on the outside looking in at this seasons results, form, table etc would be absolutely bemused if he left now. We are only in October, only two points off playoffs. Only lost two this week on the back of a nine-match unbeaten run in the league. Gates still above 2,000. Any non-Chester fan looking at that would reflect badly on our club/board if the manager was to go based on that. And the club should only really act if fans start voting with their feet and the financial implications of that - I am often bored shitless at the Deva but we’re still bringing in 2k+ gates. It is shite, yes, but it’s still changeable. All in the manager’s hands still, if he makes the necessary changes and doesn’t double-down on his stance out of spite then it’s easily salvageable. Time for level heads lads. All good points but change won’t necessarily yield results immediately and Cal has had such a long time to sort this out I wonder if the fans really have the patience left to give him that time? If he does pull it off it’ll be real phoenix from the flames stuff and he’s got some tricky fixtures in which to do it. Will be an interesting run in to Xmas. One things for sure, if they haven’t already the Board need to grow a pair and tell Cal how it is, demand a remediation plan from him and then hold him to that plan with the ultimate sanction coming in the event of failure. For me that had to be a solid position in the top 4. Being in the playoffs at this time of the season is a meaningless indication of an end of season outcome. At the same time they need to be working on a Plan B if Cal fails. That way we give ourselves the best chance of saving something from this season if he does fail. |
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Post by Curva Nord on Oct 26, 2024 16:43:29 GMT
I’m trying to find an answer how we got here. Following the euphoria (and fantastic entertainment) of Kurt’s winner against Scarborough, I watched Cals post match interview again. It was obvious from that interview he’d much rather forget entertainment value for the fans and much prefer going back to grinding out a 1-0 borefest instead. If you can be arsed after todays result have a look, quite telling as to his footballing mentality Results based business, if that's how we win and do well, personally I don't care. I'd rather win 1-0 than lose 4-3 |
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Post by kevlar on Oct 26, 2024 16:50:09 GMT
I’m trying to find an answer how we got here. Following the euphoria (and fantastic entertainment) of Kurt’s winner against Scarborough, I watched Cals post match interview again. It was obvious from that interview he’d much rather forget entertainment value for the fans and much prefer going back to grinding out a 1-0 borefest instead. If you can be arsed after todays result have a look, quite telling as to his footballing mentality Results based business, if that's how we win and do well, personally I don't care. I'd rather win 1-0 than lose 4-3 |
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Post by archwhopper on Oct 26, 2024 16:53:16 GMT
I’m trying to find an answer how we got here. Following the euphoria (and fantastic entertainment) of Kurt’s winner against Scarborough, I watched Cals post match interview again. It was obvious from that interview he’d much rather forget entertainment value for the fans and much prefer going back to grinding out a 1-0 borefest instead. If you can be arsed after todays result have a look, quite telling as to his footballing mentality Results based business, if that's how we win and do well, personally I don't care. I'd rather win 1-0 than lose 4-3 |
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Post by theshed1 on Oct 26, 2024 16:55:18 GMT
Results based business, if that's how we win and do well, personally I don't care. I'd rather win 1-0 than lose 4-3 The problem is we are losing 4 fuckin 0 |
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Post by weareblues on Oct 26, 2024 16:57:33 GMT
Makes you wonder what they actually do in training? Couldn’t hit a barn door, can’t cross, awful from set pieces, none of them run ??
Shocking
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