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Post by milnerisgod on Oct 27, 2024 18:21:48 GMT
No.
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Post by bluey7 on Oct 28, 2024 9:24:31 GMT
Top manager living life in the Midlands Premier league ( a bit lower the our league) But he has attracted some decent players mostly from football league clubs with 1874 Northwich, they have some decent players that would walk in to our side.
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Post by devadiva on Oct 28, 2024 20:52:50 GMT
Seen, done it (and somewhere I still have) got the t-shirt.
Not the “dream” I want to re-live.
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Post by Moltisanti on Oct 28, 2024 21:11:49 GMT
IN STEVE WE BELIEVE
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 28, 2024 22:02:40 GMT
Our most successful manager ever tbf.
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Post by league2 on Oct 28, 2024 23:12:51 GMT
Steve burr had a dream to build a football team
We had no money so we signed the players
On loan.....
Nothing changes
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Post by Moltisanti on Oct 29, 2024 5:59:12 GMT
Steve burr had a dream to build a football team We had no money so we signed the players On loan..... Nothing changes “Hobson in attack” |
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Post by BarntonBen on Oct 29, 2024 7:02:49 GMT
Top manager living life in the Midlands Premier league ( a bit lower the our league) But he has attracted some decent players mostly from football league clubs with 1874 Northwich, they have some decent players that would walk in to our side. They play at the bottom of my garden so watch them a few times through the window. Believe me, nobody in their team would walk into a NLN team. |
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Post by agl on Oct 29, 2024 7:18:06 GMT
Our most successful manager ever tbf. Yes, don't know why there's so much animosity towards him. At best he had us in the top half of NL, playing attractive football, beating the Goats and took us on a proper cup run. At worst we struggled towards the bottom of NL. I'd take the worst right now. Apparently some fans didn't like his jumpers, though. (Not advocating he is brought back, just to be clear. We have a manager currently). |
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Post by catfordbags on Oct 29, 2024 8:12:31 GMT
It would appear that similar to England fans and Man United Fans, most Chester fans would prefer to have Mike Bassett in the hot seat (get it in the mixer !).....
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Post by Eddie Gray's left foot on Oct 29, 2024 10:44:45 GMT
Surely NY was our best Manager
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Post by girth on Oct 29, 2024 10:49:46 GMT
Loved Steve Burr at Hereford but working alongside Josh Gowling must have bored the sh*t out of him.
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Post by waggoner on Oct 29, 2024 11:04:59 GMT
Never quite know if you are being serious or not. Me, I would say no for two reasons. First, going back to the past is never a good idea. People are ex managers for a reason. And second, we already have a manager. |
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 29, 2024 11:07:24 GMT
Surely NY was our best Manager Three successive promotions but on a budget that blew every other team out of the water and then later left us up the shit river further down the line. Trundle, Proudlock, Gritton, Higginbotham FFS. Needless. Burr registered a top half NL finish and a proper Cup run in the same season and beat that lot down the road a couple of times with a comparatively smaller budget than we threw at Young to “get us back into the NL as quickly as possible”. Absolutely not taking anything away from Young’s success but Burr did far better in the circumstances. |
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Post by Lobster on Oct 29, 2024 11:26:04 GMT
What's brought this discussion on?
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Post by Moltisanti on Oct 29, 2024 11:33:47 GMT
Never quite know if you are being serious or not. Me, I would say no for two reasons. First, going back to the past is never a good idea. People are ex managers for a reason. And second, we already have a manager. That was a shout when he was here. |
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Post by Churton Blue on Oct 29, 2024 12:31:52 GMT
Surely NY was our best Manager Three successive promotions but on a budget that blew every other team out of the water and then later left us up the shit river further down the line. Trundle, Proudlock, Gritton, Higginbotham FFS. Needless. Burr registered a top half NL finish and a proper Cup run in the same season and beat that lot down the road a couple of times with a comparatively smaller budget than we threw at Young to “get us back into the NL as quickly as possible”. Absolutely not taking anything away from Young’s success but Burr did far better in the circumstances. Incredibly disrespectful to Neil Young who achieved something unique at the levels. Even allowing for wage inflation the budget Macclesfield are operating on will be significantly higher than our budget to win the NPL. i would agree Steve Burr did a great job to get a top half finish that season. Equally he sold Sean McConville for peanuts. |
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Post by Al on Oct 29, 2024 12:53:05 GMT
Three successive promotions but on a budget that blew every other team out of the water and then later left us up the shit river further down the line. Trundle, Proudlock, Gritton, Higginbotham FFS. Needless. Burr registered a top half NL finish and a proper Cup run in the same season and beat that lot down the road a couple of times with a comparatively smaller budget than we threw at Young to “get us back into the NL as quickly as possible”. Absolutely not taking anything away from Young’s success but Burr did far better in the circumstances. Incredibly disrespectful to Neil Young who achieved something unique at the levels. Even allowing for wage inflation the budget Macclesfield are operating on will be significantly higher than our budget to win the NPL. i would agree Steve Burr did a great job to get a top half finish that season. Equally he sold Sean McConville for peanuts. And people on here were happy when McConnville left. As thankful i am to NY for giving us 3 titles in 3 years we didnt half let him spunk serious cash up the wall chasing it. When we got there we didnt have a pot to piss in |
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Post by agl on Oct 29, 2024 12:57:09 GMT
Surely NY was our best Manager Three successive promotions but on a budget that blew every other team out of the water and then later left us up the shit river further down the line. Trundle, Proudlock, Gritton, Higginbotham FFS. Needless. Burr registered a top half NL finish and a proper Cup run in the same season and beat that lot down the road a couple of times with a comparatively smaller budget than we threw at Young to “get us back into the NL as quickly as possible”. Absolutely not taking anything away from Young’s success but Burr did far better in the circumstances. Neil young did a brilliant job, irrespective of budget. Just felt the NL was a step too far for him. Didn't have the knowledge of the league or the players needed. Recruitment that first season was appalling. Having said that the win at the Race Course was one of the best days of my life. Remember auctioning off Youngy's top in the Blues Bar! |
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 29, 2024 13:49:48 GMT
Three successive promotions but on a budget that blew every other team out of the water and then later left us up the shit river further down the line. Trundle, Proudlock, Gritton, Higginbotham FFS. Needless. Burr registered a top half NL finish and a proper Cup run in the same season and beat that lot down the road a couple of times with a comparatively smaller budget than we threw at Young to “get us back into the NL as quickly as possible”. Absolutely not taking anything away from Young’s success but Burr did far better in the circumstances. Incredibly disrespectful to Neil Young who achieved something unique at the levels. Even allowing for wage inflation the budget Macclesfield are operating on will be significantly higher than our budget to win the NPL. i would agree Steve Burr did a great job to get a top half finish that season. Equally he sold Sean McConville for peanuts. Does a manager sell a player or does the board ratify the transfer fee? Maybe this was the problem in those days - someone would say arguably now too - the paid employee holds power over the people that they report to. |
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Post by beavis on Oct 29, 2024 14:26:20 GMT
Three successive promotions but on a budget that blew every other team out of the water and then later left us up the shit river further down the line. Trundle, Proudlock, Gritton, Higginbotham FFS. Needless. Burr registered a top half NL finish and a proper Cup run in the same season and beat that lot down the road a couple of times with a comparatively smaller budget than we threw at Young to “get us back into the NL as quickly as possible”. Absolutely not taking anything away from Young’s success but Burr did far better in the circumstances. Neil young did a brilliant job, irrespective of budget. Just felt the NL was a step too far for him. Didn't have the knowledge of the league or the players needed. Recruitment that first season was appalling. Having said that the win at the Race Course was one of the best days of my life. Remember auctioning off Youngy's top in the Blues Bar! Youngy is our greatest manager since reformation, I can't see how anyone can argue with that especially with the way he did it, also creating legends of players that will never be forgotten. What I would say though is that his record (outside of winning his last league with us) in the NL and NLN is pretty abysmal. He was sacked from both Stockport and Altrincham and is struggling big time this season, and if you think this lot don't entertain, Marine have scored 4 goals so far. Maybe Youngy has influenced Cal more than we ever thought. |
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Post by league2 on Oct 29, 2024 14:50:24 GMT
Incredibly disrespectful to Neil Young who achieved something unique at the levels. Even allowing for wage inflation the budget Macclesfield are operating on will be significantly higher than our budget to win the NPL. i would agree Steve Burr did a great job to get a top half finish that season. Equally he sold Sean McConville for peanuts. Does a manager sell a player or does the board ratify the transfer fee? Maybe this was the problem in those days - someone would say arguably now too - the paid employee holds power over the people that they report to. Spoke to Steve burr a couple of times over the years he told me he was disappointed he had to sell a player so quickly rather than keep hold for longer and better offers ,and it still seems to go on as far as he could tell |
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 29, 2024 14:56:01 GMT
Aye that sounds more like it. I did wonder when the above poster claimed the manager sold a player for “peanuts” - that’s the board’s responsibility.
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Post by Churton Blue on Oct 29, 2024 16:02:13 GMT
Thus proving the old adage ‘ why let the truth get in the way of a good story ‘
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Post by Churton Blue on Oct 29, 2024 16:14:00 GMT
Does a manager sell a player or does the board ratify the transfer fee? Maybe this was the problem in those days - someone would say arguably now too - the paid employee holds power over the people that they report to. Spoke to Steve burr a couple of times over the years he told me he was disappointed he had to sell a player so quickly rather than keep hold for longer and better offers ,and it still seems to go on as far as he could tell Out of interest how many players did Steve Burr sell in his time at Chester ? I think he may have been referring to his career as a manager not to one specific club ? |
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Post by waggoner on Oct 29, 2024 16:23:39 GMT
Never quite know if you are being serious or not. Me, I would say no for two reasons. First, going back to the past is never a good idea. People are ex managers for a reason. And second, we already have a manager. That was a shout when he was here. Oh now I get it! |
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Post by Harry Lime on Oct 29, 2024 16:41:11 GMT
I assumed this was a joke thread.
Why do supporters always seem to want ex players or managers back? Usually it's people without the track record ir experience to get an equivalent job anywhere else.
In Burr's case he did a good job for us. However, he was always after more players and seemed to not understand the fans owned premises. I attended a meet the fans session with him, it was a bit eye opening.
Burr said
1- it was his job to keep on at the board for more players and budget. When challenged, he said fans owned was no different.
2- he didn't worry about the opposition. He ignored them.
3- at Kiddie he just kept changing the team until he got a win.
He actually came across as a self confident salesman type. He didn't make a particularly good impression on the people who attended. I think it was a squad builder type thing.
He has basically failed every else except at Kiddie,and maybe us for a short time.
One problem our board usually has is the lack of inside football logic. It could be easy to be taken in by the 'knowledgeable' manager.
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Post by Churton Blue on Oct 29, 2024 16:56:36 GMT
I assumed this was a joke thread. Why do supporters always seem to want ex players or managers back? Usually it's people without the track record ir experience to get an equivalent job anywhere else. In Burr's case he did a good job for us. However, he was always after more players and seemed to not understand the fans owned premises. I attended a meet the fans session with him, it was a bit eye opening. Burr said 1- it was his job to keep on at the board for more players and budget. When challenged, he said fans owned was no different. 2- he didn't worry about the opposition. He ignored them. 3- at Kiddie he just kept changing the team until he got a win. He actually came across as a self confident salesman type. He didn't make a particularly good impression on the people who attended. I think it was a squad builder type thing. He has basically failed every else except at Kiddie,and maybe us for a short time. One problem our board usually has is the lack of inside football logic. It could be easy to be taken in by the 'knowledgeable' manager. Only met Steve Burr once but my impression of him is the same as yours. Being objective he did an excellent job at Northwich and at Stalybridge in his first spell. Your last point is an interesting one. What exactly is inside football logic ? |
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Post by superhans on Oct 29, 2024 17:06:40 GMT
A mate of mine pointed out the clubs he leaves behind often end up in major money trouble. Not that he can be solely blamed but did make me think, Northwich, Stalybridge, us.
Perhaps the 'keeping on at the board for more players' was an element to this. We definitely had a better squad under him than we did under NY or McCarthy in the NL. Played good football at first and could spot a player but got found out tactically in the last few months.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 29, 2024 17:09:24 GMT
Thus proving the old adage ‘ why let the truth get in the way of a good story ‘ Why let the manager of the team dictate the price of a bid the club would accept ? Again, it’s the board’s responsibility to accept or reject transfer offers, not the guy who coaches and picks the team. |
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