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Post by Finland Blue on Jun 22, 2017 19:25:57 GMT
National League 2017/18 Betting
Macc 25-1 Woking 25-1 Maidstone 28-1 Halifax 33-1 Bromley 40-1
CHESTER 50-1
What the hell is going on there?
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Post by devavictrix on Jun 22, 2017 19:33:11 GMT
They'll be basing it off our form in the second half of the season. Which ended up being the second worst in the league behind Southport didn't it?
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Post by loskasleftfoot on Jun 22, 2017 19:33:56 GMT
It's a reflection on our 2017 showing to date.
Be honest, you wouldn't have backed us at 5000/1 4 weeks ago
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Post by dmcnally on Jun 22, 2017 19:55:45 GMT
It was 66/1 before our strong summer signings. Still should have gone down to at least around the teams you've mentioned though.
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Post by whopper1 on Jun 23, 2017 18:06:36 GMT
Should be 5000/1,yes we've made sum decent signings but we won't be troubling the top half dozen
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Post by thevoice on Jun 23, 2017 18:17:39 GMT
it will be interesting how alan algar has us this season
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Post by Lobster on Jun 23, 2017 21:47:38 GMT
I'm not getting my hopes up about next season to be honest. Some good signings but still a small squad, and let's not forget that new season or not, we need to break out of one of the worst runs of form we've ever had. I can see people totally losing their patience if we don't start well.
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Post by Pseudoscally on Jun 23, 2017 22:14:10 GMT
I'm not getting my hopes up about next season to be honest. Some good signings but still a small squad, and let's not forget that new season or not, we need to break out of one of the worst runs of form we've ever had. I can see people totally losing their patience if we don't start well.
My feelings too. Seriously considered not renewing my season ticket, the second half of last season was painful.
I'd like to know what the target is for this campaign? Is our aim once again just 5th from bottom?
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Post by oldboneze on Jun 24, 2017 6:46:22 GMT
I'm not getting my hopes up about next season to be honest. Some good signings but still a small squad, and let's not forget that new season or not, we need to break out of one of the worst runs of form we've ever had. I can see people totally losing their patience if we don't start well.
My feelings too. Seriously considered not renewing my season ticket, the second half of last season was painful.
I'd like to know what the target is for this campaign? Is our aim once again just 5th from bottom?
That's always the first target. After that, depends when we reach it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2017 9:10:51 GMT
Already bought my season tickets for me and the grandchildren and was quite looking forward to the new season .but aftet reading posts from usual Suspects i might just go and slash my wrists .its a new season new team give them a chance we havent kicked a ball yet
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Post by Hannibal on Jun 24, 2017 9:56:52 GMT
I'm not getting my hopes up about next season to be honest. Some good signings but still a small squad, and let's not forget that new season or not, we need to break out of one of the worst runs of form we've ever had. I can see people totally losing their patience if we don't start well. Agree with this. Second half of last season was as bad as anything I've experienced, even on a par with when Morrison Shand were here. Still I feel energised by the signings, even though Macclesfield and Barrow fans are saying that the players they've lost aren't any great loss. The balls in Macca's court now and if it all turns out bad then only he can take the blame.
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Post by Lobster on Jun 24, 2017 13:50:09 GMT
Already bought my season tickets for me and the grandchildren and was quite looking forward to the new season .but aftet reading posts from usual Suspects i might just go and slash my wrists .its a new season new team give them a chance we havent kicked a ball yet No need to slash your wrists! I'm giving them every chance, but just saying my expectations remain fairly low. I think some people have got a bit overexcited by the signings and need to remember we still have a lot of limitations - mostly beyond our control. Still, I've been pleasantly surprised by the players we've brought in, and hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised by how the team performs. But I do think a good start will be essential. Macca may not get more than a couple of games if we start slowly.
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Post by dmcnally on Jun 24, 2017 14:37:14 GMT
Already bought my season tickets for me and the grandchildren and was quite looking forward to the new season .but aftet reading posts from usual Suspects i might just go and slash my wrists .its a new season new team give them a chance we havent kicked a ball yet No need to slash your wrists! I'm giving them every chance, but just saying my expectations remain fairly low. I think some people have got a bit overexcited by the signings and need to remember we still have a lot of limitations - mostly beyond our control. Still, I've been pleasantly surprised by the players we've brought in, and hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised by how the team performs. But I do think a good start will be essential. Macca may not get more than a couple of games if we start slowly. Let then be overexcited ffs! Rather that than drab fans moanhng 24/7!
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Post by Lobster on Jun 24, 2017 15:26:54 GMT
No need to slash your wrists! I'm giving them every chance, but just saying my expectations remain fairly low. I think some people have got a bit overexcited by the signings and need to remember we still have a lot of limitations - mostly beyond our control. Still, I've been pleasantly surprised by the players we've brought in, and hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised by how the team performs. But I do think a good start will be essential. Macca may not get more than a couple of games if we start slowly. Let then be overexcited ffs! Rather that than drab fans moanhng 24/7! Excitement is fine, but overexpectation can lead to inpatience and disappointment. I'm just trying to keep myself and others grounded!
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Post by tarvinblue on Jun 24, 2017 19:51:42 GMT
Expectations should certainly be higher next season due to the signings that have been made in recent weeks. However, a small squad is sure to prove a factor down the line and some of the back up players just aren't Conference Standard. We need to get points on the board early and hope we can keep the squad fit. If we can somehow, finally, achieve a half decent cup run, it would allow us to strengthen in January. The major factor and unknown is McCarthy's ability to prove himself as a manager this year - organising and motivating a team to compete across a full season, not just a couple of months of it, and not sounding like a complete wally during the press conferences afterwards would also be helpful. It will only take a run of 4-5 poor results, early on, for the memories of last season to return. There is no way this squad should be anywhere near a relegation scrap and the board, I would hope, are fully aware of that. For me, he's got the first 3 months of the season to prove he is a football manager - the excuses have been removed. I would expect a return of somewhere between 10th-14th to be a reasonable outcome with the squad at his disposal. There is enough experience in the squad now for that to be an expectation. We can only hope that the management have a similar aspiration.
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Post by Jack on Jun 24, 2017 21:31:42 GMT
I think our use of the loan market will be key. If Alabi goes, we'll probably be able too sign a central defender permanently, but after that we'll need a few favours.
I think we will absolutely need to bring in a winger on loan, because I don't think you can truly count on Mahon's fitness or Chappell having his 1 good game in 10. If we can use the loan market and bring in a couple of long term loans, then we certainly have the basis of a top 10 side.
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Post by hughdemann on Jul 12, 2017 12:44:21 GMT
A Wrexham fan mate tells me our odds shortened to be relegated after Alabi left us to go to Tranmere.
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Post by Matt on Jul 12, 2017 13:18:34 GMT
Looking on the outside it would look a cert for Relegation after the dire run we've had and obviously losing Hughes and Alabi. They haven't taken much notice of the signings we've made which have been impressive, so if they are tipping us for the drop lets prove them all wrong and finish 20th!
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Post by soulseal on Jul 12, 2017 16:59:43 GMT
All we need to do is put on bets at these attractive long odds and our price would shorten. Simples.
These are only starting prices before punters place their bets.
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Post by poolepirate on Jul 12, 2017 17:22:16 GMT
just placed a small bet on the blues as part of a accumulator bet with BETFRED AT 66/1 best to get on at that price before the odds are slashed after my large investment LOL
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Post by billyw on Jul 12, 2017 18:15:40 GMT
National League 2017/18 Betting Macc 25-1 Woking 25-1 Maidstone 28-1 Halifax 33-1 Bromley 40-1 CHESTER 50-1 What the hell is going on there? The odds reflect our abysmal record over the last half of the season, and more significantly, the fact that we still have the same manager.
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Post by rcb on Jul 12, 2017 18:50:05 GMT
I'm pretty happy with the squad we have, subject to any essential strengthening as the season progresses. Well capable of a top half finish. The real betting odds that interests me is which manager gets the sack first. I'm sure we won't get 50-1 on that one!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2017 19:06:25 GMT
Here's a different slant on our odds/chances
The Chronicle has an article of a couple of days ago which states that Betway have cut the odds on us finishing in the bottom four from 15/8 to 11/8.
My guess is it's for one of two reasons:
Either, they know something we don't (can't see what)
Or, there's such miniscule amounts wagered at this level that a couple of small bets can drastically affect odds and there's been a few quid bet for us to go down. After all, the odds must reflect the amount bet and, by implication, the bookies exposure.
Either way, I think these are ridiculous odds given the strengthening of the team over the summer.
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Post by lachelane on Jul 12, 2017 19:10:26 GMT
National League 2017/18 Betting Macc 25-1 Woking 25-1 Maidstone 28-1 Halifax 33-1 Bromley 40-1 CHESTER 50-1 What the hell is going on there? The odds reflect our abysmal record over the last half of the season, and more significantly, the fact that we still have the same manager. Boy, you are one negative poster, almost as bad as the previous MB.
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Post by championeeees on Jul 12, 2017 22:33:21 GMT
Here's a different slant on our odds/chances The Chronicle has an article of a couple of days ago which states that Betway have cut the odds on us finishing in the bottom four from 15/8 to 11/8. My guess is it's for one of two reasons: Either, they know something we don't (can't see what) Or, there's such miniscule amounts wagered at this level that a couple of small bets can drastically affect odds and there's been a few quid bet for us to go down. After all, the odds must reflect the amount bet and, by implication, the bookies exposure. Either way, I think these are ridiculous odds given the strengthening of the team over the summer. Probably because the signings made ain't as good as you make out, and everyone and the bookies see it. Mccombe is no better than Hudson, Alabi is a lot better than Hannah too (I know you've made other signings but none are decent and LRT is an awful full back). So your squad is actually similar if not worse, the only decent signing made is Kingsley James. The others are bang average, it's a squad assembled to try stay away from relegation. With the clown in charge of yous too, you boys could really be in trouble. But at least you can 'laugh' at Wrexham ey.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Jul 13, 2017 6:19:10 GMT
Here's a different slant on our odds/chances The Chronicle has an article of a couple of days ago which states that Betway have cut the odds on us finishing in the bottom four from 15/8 to 11/8. My guess is it's for one of two reasons: Either, they know something we don't (can't see what) Or, there's such miniscule amounts wagered at this level that a couple of small bets can drastically affect odds and there's been a few quid bet for us to go down. After all, the odds must reflect the amount bet and, by implication, the bookies exposure. Either way, I think these are ridiculous odds given the strengthening of the team over the summer. Probably because the signings made ain't as good as you make out, and everyone and the bookies see it. Mccombe is no better than Hudson, Alabi is a lot better than Hannah too (I know you've made other signings but none are decent and LRT is an awful full back). So your squad is actually similar if not worse, the only decent signing made is Kingsley James. The others are bang average, it's a squad assembled to try stay away from relegation. With the clown in charge of yous too, you boys could really be in trouble. But at least you can 'laugh' at Wrexham ey. 🙄 Aren't they so deluded!
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Post by Hannibal on Jul 13, 2017 7:23:17 GMT
Probably because the signings made ain't as good as you make out, and everyone and the bookies see it. Mccombe is no better than Hudson, Alabi is a lot better than Hannah too (I know you've made other signings but none are decent and LRT is an awful full back). So your squad is actually similar if not worse, the only decent signing made is Kingsley James. The others are bang average, it's a squad assembled to try stay away from relegation. With the clown in charge of yous too, you boys could really be in trouble. But at least you can 'laugh' at Wrexham ey. 🙄 Aren't they so deluded! Fair assessment really. The only thing I'd disagree with is Alabi better than Hannah. A mate whose been to the 2 friendlies reckons White is shite.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2017 8:00:21 GMT
Here's a different slant on our odds/chances The Chronicle has an article of a couple of days ago which states that Betway have cut the odds on us finishing in the bottom four from 15/8 to 11/8. My guess is it's for one of two reasons: Either, they know something we don't (can't see what) Or, there's such miniscule amounts wagered at this level that a couple of small bets can drastically affect odds and there's been a few quid bet for us to go down. After all, the odds must reflect the amount bet and, by implication, the bookies exposure. Either way, I think these are ridiculous odds given the strengthening of the team over the summer. Probably because the signings made ain't as good as you make out, and everyone and the bookies see it. Mccombe is no better than Hudson, Alabi is a lot better than Hannah too (I know you've made other signings but none are decent and LRT is an awful full back). So your squad is actually similar if not worse, the only decent signing made is Kingsley James. The others are bang average, it's a squad assembled to try stay away from relegation. With the clown in charge of yous too, you boys could really be in trouble. But at least you can 'laugh' at Wrexham ey. Of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I reckon that the vast majority of CFC fans see the signings as generally positive, even some of those who were highly critical last season. I,for one, am not into this 'laughing at Wrexham' thing, I just don't see the point. Only time AND results will determine whether we are good enough and that applies to you lot down the road
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2017 11:08:58 GMT
What a load of garbage .to be arguing about the odds being offered by bookmakers .do people not fully understand .bookmakers are there to make money for themselves .if you study horse racong you will see that every board price is stacked heavily on favour of the bookmaker not the backer it is not even the bookies opinion it is just about setting aboard that will make money so if you want a bet do so Just remember you will never see a poor bookmaker
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Post by jb on Jul 13, 2017 12:01:11 GMT
Here's a different slant on our odds/chances The Chronicle has an article of a couple of days ago which states that Betway have cut the odds on us finishing in the bottom four from 15/8 to 11/8. My guess is it's for one of two reasons: Either, they know something we don't (can't see what) Or, there's such miniscule amounts wagered at this level that a couple of small bets can drastically affect odds and there's been a few quid bet for us to go down. After all, the odds must reflect the amount bet and, by implication, the bookies exposure. Either way, I think these are ridiculous odds given the strengthening of the team over the summer. McCombe no better than Hudson? Only a Wrexham fan can come up with such a ridiculous quote. McCombe has played League football whereas Hudson is now playing in a league in which Wrexham should be playing. Even if Wrexham were playing L of W football they probably wouldn't be Championeeees! Probably because the signings made ain't as good as you make out, and everyone and the bookies see it. Mccombe is no better than Hudson, Alabi is a lot better than Hannah too (I know you've made other signings but none are decent and LRT is an awful full back). So your squad is actually similar if not worse, the only decent signing made is Kingsley James. The others are bang average, it's a squad assembled to try stay away from relegation. With the clown in charge of yous too, you boys could really be in trouble. But at least you can 'laugh' at Wrexham ey.
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