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Post by banksy on Aug 23, 2017 8:06:09 GMT
I had asked the Red Arrows if they'd consider doing a flypast again to mark the occasion but sadly we missed out due to them leaving Hawarden Airport next Monday morning rather than the afternoon. Shame as that would've been a nice way to mark the anniversary and also with it being the Cheshire Derby but there you go. Hopefully the rallying call will work and get as many down there as possible. If we can start the game the way we played in the second half it would at least get the crowd all round the ground going. They finish the Rhyl Airshow on the Sunday so ship out from Hawarden early Monday shame really. Yeah. Typical really had we had a lunchtime kick off we'd have got the flypast!! Not to be this time but it was worth a try! Would still love there to be a Leicester style flag day at home matches. The atmosphere in their home games really takes off and there is no reason this couldn't be replicated. Remember when we did it a few years ago when we put small flags in all the seated areas, admittedly we were enjoying better times back then but it definitely contributed to a better atmosphere inside the ground. |
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Post by Rio Doherty on Aug 23, 2017 8:54:01 GMT
They finish the Rhyl Airshow on the Sunday so ship out from Hawarden early Monday shame really. Yeah. Typical really had we had a lunchtime kick off we'd have got the flypast!! Not to be this time but it was worth a try! Would still love there to be a Leicester style flag day at home matches. The atmosphere in their home games really takes off and there is no reason this couldn't be replicated. Remember when we did it a few years ago when we put small flags in all the seated areas, admittedly we were enjoying better times back then but it definitely contributed to a better atmosphere inside the ground. That's a great idea. Also, I think we should give the team of the week some flags to wave when the teams come out. |
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Post by bitbbh on Aug 23, 2017 9:51:29 GMT
Really glad of the intent to make Monday buzz. Many of us have watched Chester for many years and the have witnessed results being worse in previous years and I don't get the level of aggressive anger to the club/manager that some have. I can see the failings of the manager at the moment and I still believe he can turn this round. The Players also have to take some responsibility too. Still confident we can make something of this season. Have we ever gone as long without a home win?? 18 games and no home wins since December 16. I admire your optimism but cannot see this manager turning it around. It's only a matter of time for me before he is quite rightly shown the door, from his interviews to him having a go back at supporters on the touchline i dont get this "nice/likeable" persona either. He certainly doesn't come across that way to me anyway. Not that they need reminding but the lads in the Harry Mc could dress up in santa costumes and sing Jingle Bells. The rest of the crowd could wear xmas jumpers and stuff our faces on a new Chester xmas pie with Turkey and sprout filling and all the players could hand out the kids Quality Steet and Roses. Play christmas carols on the PA and arrangle a fly past by Santa and his reindeer possee. Should create a nice festive atmosphere. I really cant beleive the club have issued that statement to be honest. It would have been better off giving McCarthy a vote of confidence and a number of games to sort it out. The problems we have are on the pitch and getting results. Yes the players have a part in getting the fans excited and the fans in getting the playes going. But unless our tactics and style of play are more positive then it will make no difference and the inevitable will happen and we can look forward to another festive hangover. |
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Post by massivefloodlights on Aug 23, 2017 10:21:23 GMT
£500 worth of party poppers should raise the roof. Get behind them ffs.
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Post by tarvinblue on Aug 23, 2017 11:39:24 GMT
'I'm still the right man for the job,' insists Chester boss, McCarthy. link |
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Post by bonecrusher on Aug 23, 2017 11:56:09 GMT
'I'm still the right man for the job,' insists Chester boss, McCarthy. linkSeriously what does anyone expect him to say? |
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Post by blue4life on Aug 23, 2017 11:59:46 GMT
'I'm still the right man for the job,' insists Chester boss, McCarthy. linkSeriously what does anyone expect him to say? I quit. |
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Post by tarvinblue on Aug 23, 2017 12:07:57 GMT
'I'm still the right man for the job,' insists Chester boss, McCarthy. linkSeriously what does anyone expect him to say? He's certainly not going to get 23 games, if these performances continue! He's holding onto the belief that we have only lost once and that somehow, soon his best laid plans are going to come to fruition. There has been zero evidence to suggest this is the case, based on the four games so far, but he has to hold onto that belief, personally. Yet again he is contradicting himself, though, last week it was all about not getting beat and this week it's about going for the win. Surely if we get to the end of the next 6 games and we aren't in double figure points, at the very least, he knows his time is up. |
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Post by bonecrusher on Aug 23, 2017 14:15:50 GMT
I totally agree with you but he's got to say he thinks he can turn it round.
And whilst he probably should say 'I quit', he won't. I think that's pretty obvious.
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Post by billyw on Aug 23, 2017 15:05:37 GMT
'I'm still the right man for the job,' insists Chester boss, McCarthy. linkA typical McCarthy interview, delusions and bullshit. If, in his words, he goes out to win every game, the results confirm that he is no bloody good at his job. |
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Post by bing on Aug 23, 2017 15:43:29 GMT
The problem is, no matter what he says in interviews now you'll get people criticising him.
It bugs me that people say he, "should do the honourable thing and step down". What's honourable about giving up? Surely the fact that he's willing to redouble his efforts to turn things around is an admirable trait.
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Post by rcb on Aug 23, 2017 16:50:59 GMT
Just read that McCarthy thinks he is the right man for the job. To convince us, he includes the following quote, "The board backed me this summer and I’ve got the recruitment right."
So there you have it, a slow back four with no cover at all, and four forwards, three of whom are injured already. Yep, definitely got that right.
As they used to say in the Waltons, goodnight Jon boy!
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Post by richard on Aug 23, 2017 17:16:48 GMT
Just read that McCarthy thinks he is the right man for the job. To convince us, he includes the following quote, "The board backed me this summer and I’ve got the recruitment right." So there you have it, a slow back four with no cover at all, and four forwards, three of whom are injured already. Yep, definitely got that right. As they used to say in the Waltons, goodnight Jon boy! Are you seriously suggesting that it is the managers fault that the forwards are injured? If not, why mention it? |
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Post by Al on Aug 23, 2017 17:23:01 GMT
Just words at the end of the day.
He could come out and say the sky is orange for all I care. The only thing that matters is a win at home on Monday and not losing on Saturday. 4 points from those 2 games will be progress
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Post by Wortleyblue on Aug 23, 2017 17:26:44 GMT
Just read that McCarthy thinks he is the right man for the job. To convince us, he includes the following quote, "The board backed me this summer and I’ve got the recruitment right." So there you have it, a slow back four with no cover at all, and four forwards, three of whom are injured already. Yep, definitely got that right. As they used to say in the Waltons, goodnight Jon boy! If not, why mention it? Well it could have something to do with training which I assume is the Managers responsibilitey |
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Post by noddy on Aug 23, 2017 17:33:20 GMT
Just read that McCarthy thinks he is the right man for the job. To convince us, he includes the following quote, "The board backed me this summer and I’ve got the recruitment right." So there you have it, a slow back four with no cover at all, and four forwards, three of whom are injured already. Yep, definitely got that right. As they used to say in the Waltons, goodnight Jon boy! Are you seriously suggesting that it is the managers fault that the forwards are injured? If not, why mention it? I personally think we do get it wrong too often in new recruitment of players. This isn't just a dig at the current regime, it has happened before. I have stated that we should be looking at players who have played 30 games or more the previous season. We have to get value you out of our players and while I know it's not a foolproof method for recruitment it would have meant the likes of George and Killock wouldn't have been recruited in the first place. I'll hold judgement on the likes of White and Hannah as we were delighted to get them but we need to get them out on the pitch asap and keep them there. |
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Post by soulseal on Aug 23, 2017 18:03:17 GMT
I thinks it's important to assess the fitness of all players irrespective of how many games they have played. A player who has played 46 games for the last 5 seasons may now be crocked, whereas a player out for a season may be fully fit and raring to go. Even selecting younger players may have its own risk, such as Akintunde last year.
It's easy to state a policy, harder in fact to keep to it in reality.
Bells injury is a freak, is Whites related to his head injury v Halifax ? Hannah's a bit more predictable. May be he shouldn't have started v Halifax, leaving Akintunde in, but I'm speculating on hindsight here.
I agree though that we've not had a good injury record in recent years.
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Post by soulseal on Aug 23, 2017 18:18:03 GMT
Really glad of the intent to make Monday buzz. Many of us have watched Chester for many years and the have witnessed results being worse in previous years and I don't get the level of aggressive anger to the club/manager that some have. I can see the failings of the manager at the moment and I still believe he can turn this round. The Players also have to take some responsibility too. Still confident we can make something of this season. Have we ever gone as long without a home win?? 18 games and no home wins since December 16. I admire your optimism but cannot see this manager turning it around. It's only a matter of time for me before he is quite rightly shown the door, from his interviews to him having a go back at supporters on the touchline i dont get this "nice/likeable" persona either. He certainly doesn't come across that way to me anyway. I don't think Macca can do anything right, interviews, body language etc, while the results are so poor. The pressure itself may be terminal. I suspect even if we win a few games and get to mid table many still won't be satisfied until he goes. I find that a real shame because as a supporter owned club I want us to be different and allow time for the team to develop and improve as we can't go out a plunder players from other teams as we won't and shouldn't go into the red. So my optimism and support of Macca is really a support of the mentality the club should have in regard to its managers and coaches. I want him to have the allotted time to develop the team and for me the clock got reset after the close season. I accept that without the results he will have to go, but for me that time is not yet. By Xmas maybe, but no longer. |
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Post by rcb on Aug 23, 2017 18:52:18 GMT
Just read that McCarthy thinks he is the right man for the job. To convince us, he includes the following quote, "The board backed me this summer and I’ve got the recruitment right." So there you have it, a slow back four with no cover at all, and four forwards, three of whom are injured already. Yep, definitely got that right. As they used to say in the Waltons, goodnight Jon boy! Are you seriously suggesting that it is the managers fault that the forwards are injured? If not, why mention it? Good evening Richard, I hope you are well. It was suggested at the time of their signings that there were suspicions over some players. However, as you are always so keen to oppose all that I say, I take your absence of comment in regard to what I have stated in regard to the defence that you have endorsed my comments. Thanks for that. What are your thoughts on the three personnel given two year contracts? Issues with all three - correct? Long term injury for Mahon, hardly played for a year in Hannah's case, and no previous experience for McCarthy? Go on Richard. Get it off your chest. Tell me how totally wrong I am. You worry me when you don't! |
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Post by dmcnally on Aug 23, 2017 19:04:12 GMT
Yeah. Typical really had we had a lunchtime kick off we'd have got the flypast!! Not to be this time but it was worth a try! Would still love there to be a Leicester style flag day at home matches. The atmosphere in their home games really takes off and there is no reason this couldn't be replicated. Remember when we did it a few years ago when we put small flags in all the seated areas, admittedly we were enjoying better times back then but it definitely contributed to a better atmosphere inside the ground. That's a great idea. Also, I think we should give the team of the week some flags to wave when the teams come out. Already sorted that with Maguire and dropped off small waving flags for them a few weeks ago at the ground. Haven't been used so far but they have them there if they want to use them. |
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Post by Hannibal on Aug 23, 2017 19:33:39 GMT
Hasn't he asked for 23 games to prove himself? Mad Terry had 16 points after 26 games, then Ian Aitkins took 23 points from those final 20 games, but we fell short on goal difference after a great second half to the season. He also lost the first 3 games as he gradually brought in better players to replace the circus that Mad Terry has assembled. There's no guarentee that whoever comes in will improve things as Ian Aitkins miraculously did. If the board do give him those 23 games then I feel he should have reached a minimum of 25 or 26 points which is his target of 1.1 points per game.
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Post by Lobster on Aug 23, 2017 20:19:24 GMT
Really glad of the intent to make Monday buzz. Many of us have watched Chester for many years and the have witnessed results being worse in previous years and I don't get the level of aggressive anger to the club/manager that some have. I can see the failings of the manager at the moment and I still believe he can turn this round. The Players also have to take some responsibility too. Still confident we can make something of this season. 18 games and no home wins since December 16. I admire your optimism but cannot see this manager turning it around. It's only a matter of time for me before he is quite rightly shown the door, from his interviews to him having a go back at supporters on the touchline i dont get this "nice/likeable" persona either. He certainly doesn't come across that way to me anyway. We didn't win a home game from October 31, 2009 to September 8, 2010, but in fairness we didn't have a club at all for a decent portion of that! The season before that, we went from Boxing Day 2008 to September 5, 2009 without a home win, but I've just checked and even if we beat Macc on Monday, the current run will beat that by one day. Terrible post-New Year form has been a consistent problem at Chester over recent years! |
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Post by whopper3 on Aug 23, 2017 21:15:25 GMT
McCarthy is incompetent
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Post by jb on Aug 23, 2017 22:06:05 GMT
£500 worth of party poppers should raise the roof. Get behind them ffs. Getting behind a group of lads with poppers is something Wrexham fans are all too familiar with! |
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Post by trev on Aug 23, 2017 22:11:27 GMT
Have we ever gone as long without a home win?? 18 games and no home wins since December 16. I admire your optimism but cannot see this manager turning it around. It's only a matter of time for me before he is quite rightly shown the door, from his interviews to him having a go back at supporters on the touchline i dont get this "nice/likeable" persona either. He certainly doesn't come across that way to me anyway. We didn't win a home game from October 31, 2009 to September 8, 2010, but in fairness we didn't have a club at all for a decent portion of that! The season before that, we went from Boxing Day 2008 to September 5, 2009 without a home win, but I've just checked and even if we beat Macc on Monday, the current run will beat that by one day. Terrible post-New Year form has been a consistent problem at Chester over recent years! Unfortunately I suspect we are not going to have wait quite as long for such a run of terrible form this season. We all know why JM is still here and it certainly isn’t because he is a tactical genius. I've not heard anything remotely convincing from Mr McCarthy’s supporters, or indeed himself, that suggests he has the capability or managerial ability to consistently achieve acceptable performances and results even at home, in the short or long term. I know stranger things have happened (eg the fabled good run) but does anyone honesty think we will pick up more than a couple of points in the next three matches, and surely Solihull must already be considered a must win game to at least build some confidence . Interestingly we now haven’t won in 11 league games home or away so perhaps we are already on a terrible run. Surely, if things don’t drastically improve over the next 3 or 4 games then the board who have stuck by him, will have no other sensible option but face the reality that McCarthy is simply not up to the job and at last make the initially painful financial decision to remove him, in the best interests of the Football Club. |
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Post by CH3STER on Aug 23, 2017 22:52:59 GMT
Hasn't he asked for 23 games to prove himself? Mad Terry had 16 points after 26 games, then Ian Aitkins took 23 points from those final 20 games, but we fell short on goal difference after a great second half to the season. He also lost the first 3 games as he gradually brought in better players to replace the circus that Mad Terry has assembled. There's no guarentee that whoever comes in will improve things as Ian Aitkins miraculously did. If the board do give him those 23 games then I feel he should have reached a minimum of 25 or 26 points which is his target of 1.1 points per game. Mad Terry?? Macca had a very good playing career including international caps. Embarrassing to make comparisons between the two. Could Mad Terry have had a massive hand in developing Sam Hughes from a Witton bench warmer into a Leicester player? |
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Post by dragonslayer on Aug 24, 2017 6:43:54 GMT
He nearly ruined the lad by continually playing him out of position at right back, in order to play one of his best ever signings Hudson.
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Post by Hannibal on Aug 24, 2017 8:06:49 GMT
Hasn't he asked for 23 games to prove himself? Mad Terry had 16 points after 26 games, then Ian Aitkins took 23 points from those final 20 games, but we fell short on goal difference after a great second half to the season. He also lost the first 3 games as he gradually brought in better players to replace the circus that Mad Terry has assembled. There's no guarentee that whoever comes in will improve things as Ian Aitkins miraculously did. If the board do give him those 23 games then I feel he should have reached a minimum of 25 or 26 points which is his target of 1.1 points per game. Mad Terry?? Macca had a very good playing career including international caps. Embarrassing to make comparisons between the two. Could Mad Terry have had a massive hand in developing Sam Hughes from a Witton bench warmer into a Leicester player? Not sure we're on the same wave-length Che3ster. Indeed Jon McCarthy had a very good playing career as did Bobby Charlton, but when you become a manager all your playing career counts for zilch if you're doing a poor job as both Bobby Charlton and Mad Terry did and Jon McCarthy is currently doing. JM has more similarities with Mad Terry (who incidentally also won lots of football medals ~ allegedly) than differences, which include very poor runs of results, bizarre/negative tactics and utterly cringe-worthy after match interviews and statements. Finally Dragonslayer is right that JM held Sam Hughes back by not playing him in the first 12 games last season and then playing him out of position after him and Ryan Astles starred in that brilliant run of undefeated, not conceding games. Well done for supporting him, but I feel that his support is diminishing with every poor result. |
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Post by bonecrusher on Aug 24, 2017 10:05:31 GMT
Very constructive. You seem proud of this post as you keep posting it. It's not as hilarious and witty as you think. |
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Post by blue4life on Aug 24, 2017 10:24:59 GMT
He nearly ruined the lad by continually playing him out of position at right back, in order to play one of his best ever signings Hudson. And then dropping him for the Wrexham game in favour of Hudson. |
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