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Post by whopper3 on Sept 18, 2017 17:44:48 GMT
He was at the club offices today.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Sept 18, 2017 17:57:55 GMT
Great news. Bring out the Barrow.
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Post by Johnnybling on Sept 18, 2017 18:15:44 GMT
Bignot for manager barrow assistant job sorted!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 18:20:42 GMT
I'll take just the assistant thanks
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Post by Paul Da Part on Sept 18, 2017 18:26:56 GMT
Good news, but I wouldn't be too disheartened if he didn't get the job.
Looking at the shortlist (if that is the final one that the Chronicle have drawn up) there are four standout names. Bignot, Barrow, Money and Redfearn.
Graham would be at the bottom of those four names for me though. Bignot has been my number one choice for a while now, you've got Redfearn who's worked at Leeds, who in my opinion are still one of England's biggest clubs despite their Second Division status. Then there is Dickie Dosh who's got a wealth of experience at this level, did he not get Cambridge promoted too? Then Graham Barrow. I love GB and what he has done for this club. He's a club legend, rightfully so, but I don't want him to tarnish that reputation should it not work out for him this time around. I appreciate that he would most certainly lift the morale and the mood around the club, but at the same time, I worry that a third spell in charge might be one spell too many (it's even a fourth, if you count his time as assistant to Mark Wright)
I want to remember him for what he DID at the club, and not worry about what he is DOING. If he is happy to be assistant to one of the aforementioned names, then that is a completely different matter (could we even afford that though?) but again, GB as manager wouldn't be a bad thing necessarily, it just wouldn't be the perfect appointment simply because I don't want his good standing at the club tainted. It didn't work out for Ian Rush, and you'd argue Neil Young left under a cloud too.
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Post by andyblue on Sept 18, 2017 18:38:09 GMT
Barrow for me all the way. The man isn't just a Chester legend he has the old school ways there is no way he would accept anything but 100% from every player never would tactics be sit back and soak up pressure. I think you could add on hundreds on the gates just with him here it's a no brainer for me. If Barrow wants the job give it to him he has Chester in his blood he will give 100% commitment himself and there are not many managers about that you can say that about!!
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Post by Woody on Sept 18, 2017 18:47:18 GMT
Barrow for me all the way. The man isn't just a Chester legend he has the old school ways there is no way he would accept anything but 100% from every player never would tactics be sit back and soak up pressure. I think you could add on hundreds on the gates just with him here it's a no brainer for me. If Barrow wants the job give it to him he has Chester in his blood he will give 100% commitment himself and there are not many managers about that you can say that about!! With you 100%, I don't believe he would let his legend status become tainted, if it became close to that these players wouldn't know what hit them. One thing they will understand is the pride and passion it takes to put the shirt on and commitment and fitness levels required to compete. He's a leader and that's something we have been missing, a hard and fair man, who never gives up or she's away from a battle. |
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Post by Woody on Sept 18, 2017 18:48:48 GMT
Barrow for me all the way. The man isn't just a Chester legend he has the old school ways there is no way he would accept anything but 100% from every player never would tactics be sit back and soak up pressure. I think you could add on hundreds on the gates just with him here it's a no brainer for me. If Barrow wants the job give it to him he has Chester in his blood he will give 100% commitment himself and there are not many managers about that you can say that about!! With you 100%, I don't believe he would let his legend status become tainted, if it became close to that these players wouldn't know what hit them. One thing they will understand is the pride and passion it takes to put the shirt on and commitment and fitness levels required to compete. He's a leader and that's something we have been missing, a hard and fair man, who never gives up or she's away from a battle. Shys away |
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Post by ubb1689 on Sept 18, 2017 18:49:01 GMT
Good news, but I wouldn't be too disheartened if he didn't get the job. Looking at the shortlist (if that is the final one that the Chronicle have drawn up) there are four standout names. Bignot, Barrow, Money and Redfearn. Graham would be at the bottom of those four names for me though. Bignot has been my number one choice for a while now, you've got Redfearn who's worked at Leeds, who in my opinion are still one of England's biggest clubs despite their Second Division status. Then there is Dickie Dosh who's got a wealth of experience at this level, did he not get Cambridge promoted too? Then Graham Barrow. I love GB and what he has done for this club. He's a club legend, rightfully so, but I don't want him to tarnish that reputation should it not work out for him this time around. I appreciate that he would most certainly lift the morale and the mood around the club, but at the same time, I worry that a third spell in charge might be one spell too many (it's even a fourth, if you count his time as assistant to Mark Wright) I want to remember him for what he DID at the club, and not worry about what he is DOING. If he is happy to be assistant to one of the aforementioned names, then that is a completely different matter (could we even afford that though?) but again, GB as manager wouldn't be a bad thing necessarily, it just wouldn't be the perfect appointment simply because I don't want his good standing at the club tainted. It didn't work out for Ian Rush, and you'd argue Neil Young left under a cloud too. But Rush was never a manager. |
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Post by Paul Da Part on Sept 18, 2017 18:51:38 GMT
Good news, but I wouldn't be too disheartened if he didn't get the job. Looking at the shortlist (if that is the final one that the Chronicle have drawn up) there are four standout names. Bignot, Barrow, Money and Redfearn. Graham would be at the bottom of those four names for me though. Bignot has been my number one choice for a while now, you've got Redfearn who's worked at Leeds, who in my opinion are still one of England's biggest clubs despite their Second Division status. Then there is Dickie Dosh who's got a wealth of experience at this level, did he not get Cambridge promoted too? Then Graham Barrow. I love GB and what he has done for this club. He's a club legend, rightfully so, but I don't want him to tarnish that reputation should it not work out for him this time around. I appreciate that he would most certainly lift the morale and the mood around the club, but at the same time, I worry that a third spell in charge might be one spell too many (it's even a fourth, if you count his time as assistant to Mark Wright) I want to remember him for what he DID at the club, and not worry about what he is DOING. If he is happy to be assistant to one of the aforementioned names, then that is a completely different matter (could we even afford that though?) but again, GB as manager wouldn't be a bad thing necessarily, it just wouldn't be the perfect appointment simply because I don't want his good standing at the club tainted. It didn't work out for Ian Rush, and you'd argue Neil Young left under a cloud too. But Rush was never a manager. He wasn't. But he was certainly employed as one. |
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Post by finno on Sept 18, 2017 18:57:28 GMT
Bring back the Barrow
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Post by chesterken on Sept 18, 2017 19:06:45 GMT
Looking at all those names it's abit like being locked in a sweet shop overnight but I wouldn't know what to choose😀
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Post by Captain Duff on Sept 18, 2017 19:19:47 GMT
Looking at all those names it's abit like being locked in a sweet shop overnight but I wouldn't know what to choose😀 Agree, I would be happy with most of the names in the frame, although I should point out that as Barrow is the current legend of the month on the Exiles produced 2017 calendar the Fates were at work on this alignment of the stars some time ago  |
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Post by Oaks Blue on Sept 18, 2017 19:22:03 GMT
I'd chuck all the other applications in the bin after seeing his, he will be given the time needed to turn us around and the players will respect and play for him no danger.
He'd probably still do a job for us in midfield if he brings his boots along too!
The man is a legend and he needs to come home
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Post by chesterken on Sept 18, 2017 19:25:11 GMT
Looking at all those names it's abit like being locked in a sweet shop overnight but I wouldn't know what to choose😀 Agree, I would be happy with most of the names in the frame, although I should point out that as Barrow is the current legend of the month on the Exiles produced 2017 calendar the Fates were at work on this alignment of the stars some time ago Ok chocolate chewy nuts it is then😀 |
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Post by tarvinblue on Sept 18, 2017 19:40:16 GMT
Can someone tell me what Barrow has achieved at National League level in the last 20 years that makes him such a favourite? 23 years ago he led us to promotion from Division 3 and then he had a mediocre campaign with us when we were first relegated to this level in the early noughties. Since then he has been assistant manager at much higher levels to various different coaches. In his day he was a great manager but I don't understand the emotion and sentimentality towards his return. His most recent job has been as assistant at Chesterfield, who are 23rd in League 2. I admired him as a player and admired him all those years ago during that promotion campaign but I can see no logical evidence as to why he is the best man for this job.
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Post by eyeswideopen on Sept 18, 2017 19:48:13 GMT
Can someone tell me what Barrow has achieved at National League level in the last 20 years that makes him such a favourite? 23 years ago he led us to promotion from Division 3 and then he had a mediocre campaign with us when we were first relegated to this level in the early noughties. Since then he has been assistant manager at much higher levels to various different coaches. In his day he was a great manager but I don't understand the emotion and sentimentality towards his return. His most recent job has been as assistant at Chesterfield, who are 23rd in League 2. I admired him as a player and admired him all those years ago during that promotion campaign but I can see no logical evidence as to why he is the best man for this job. So on that logic, if someone like Derby County had an interest from Jose Mourinho, they would turn him down because he is over qualified? |
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Post by tarvinblue on Sept 18, 2017 19:59:32 GMT
Can someone tell me what Barrow has achieved at National League level in the last 20 years that makes him such a favourite? 23 years ago he led us to promotion from Division 3 and then he had a mediocre campaign with us when we were first relegated to this level in the early noughties. Since then he has been assistant manager at much higher levels to various different coaches. In his day he was a great manager but I don't understand the emotion and sentimentality towards his return. His most recent job has been as assistant at Chesterfield, who are 23rd in League 2. I admired him as a player and admired him all those years ago during that promotion campaign but I can see no logical evidence as to why he is the best man for this job. So on that logic, if someone like Derby County had an interest from Jose Mourinho, they would turn him down because he is over qualified? What has Barrow achieved as a manager in the last 20 years, though? He hasn't been a manager outright for a long time. There's this automatic assumption, based on one season 23 years ago, that he is our saviour. Far too much sentimentality based on performance a quarter of a century ago. If he had been a manager at a higher level, winning things during that period then I would have no issue in him coming back. What is his knowledge of National League football? Bignot, Money etc may not be romantic names in the sense of Barrow but they all have a recent track record at this level. |
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 18, 2017 20:03:04 GMT
He was at the club offices today. Wouldn't believe anything this fella says. He's apparently seen all sorts of people at the club. Interviews have been elsewhere, not at the ground so this is bullshit. |
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Post by Woody on Sept 18, 2017 20:05:15 GMT
Bignot at a lower level like Neil Young, Richard Money can't disagree but sometimes it's better the devil you know and think Grahams association with the club and as a leader is what we need in this current battle.
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Post by chesterken on Sept 18, 2017 20:05:31 GMT
So on that logic, if someone like Derby County had an interest from Jose Mourinho, they would turn him down because he is over qualified? What has Barrow achieved as a manager in the last 20 years, though? He hasn't been a manager outright for a long time. There's this automatic assumption, based on one season 23 years ago, that he is our saviour. Far too much sentimentality based on performance a quarter of a century ago. If he had been a manager at a higher level, winning things during that period then I would have no issue in him coming back. What is his knowledge of National League football? Bignot, Money etc may not be romantic names in the sense of Barrow but they all have a recent track record at this level. You make some very good points Tarvinblue |
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Post by embalmer on Sept 18, 2017 20:19:07 GMT
Completely agree with tarvinblue on this. Graham Barrow may well be a club legend but given the situation we are in, appointing him would be a ridiculous risk to take. I'd be all for that if the shortlist was like it was last time, Shaun Reid, Watson and McCarthy - then why not? But this time, it's not - we have proven, recent experience on offer in this league through the likes of Richard Money and Marcus Bignot. To appoint a manager, given our perilous position, through nothing but sentimentality and romantic nods to days gone by would be asking for trouble.
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Post by norwegianblue on Sept 18, 2017 20:20:49 GMT
So on that logic, if someone like Derby County had an interest from Jose Mourinho, they would turn him down because he is over qualified? What has Barrow achieved as a manager in the last 20 years, though? He hasn't been a manager outright for a long time. There's this automatic assumption, based on one season 23 years ago, that he is our saviour. Far too much sentimentality based on performance a quarter of a century ago. If he had been a manager at a higher level, winning things during that period then I would have no issue in him coming back. What is his knowledge of National League football? Bignot, Money etc may not be romantic names in the sense of Barrow but they all have a recent track record at this level. I think TB has a point. Graham Barrow is my all time favourite player/Clubman but his limited knowledge of the National league at a time where that knowledge is needed could tarnish his Legend status if it doesn't work. At the moment we need a new boss who has a good track record of the National League. Let's appoint GB if and when we get into the FL where he will have the opportunity to live up to his God status ! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 20:24:19 GMT
lots of good calibre who have applied biggest appointment in the clubs history this will be
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Post by debbiej on Sept 18, 2017 20:25:22 GMT
So on that logic, if someone like Derby County had an interest from Jose Mourinho, they would turn him down because he is over qualified? What has Barrow achieved as a manager in the last 20 years, though? He hasn't been a manager outright for a long time. There's this automatic assumption, based on one season 23 years ago, that he is our saviour. Far too much sentimentality based on performance a quarter of a century ago. If he had been a manager at a higher level, winning things during that period then I would have no issue in him coming back. What is his knowledge of National League football? Bignot, Money etc may not be romantic names in the sense of Barrow but they all have a recent track record at this level. These supporters will soon be shouting for him to be sacked when he loses a couple of games, the so called 'Legend' status will very quickly disappear ,As my Dad and Grandad have both told me these are same ones that shouted for Harry Mcnally to be sacked then when he was, suddenly decided he was a legend and named a stand after him,Chester fans throughout history have always been fickle. |
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Post by Woody on Sept 18, 2017 20:50:51 GMT
Fickle maybe, some great candidates, however wouldn't say Marcus is experienced at this level at lower level yes, then sold Bogle which helped him achieve promotion from the funds. Probably managed about 15 games in this league in total including currently with Barrow however at Grimsby he didn't last long for whatever reason we will never know. Richard Money I agree experienced at this level and very successful.
Barrow, Redfearn and Moore all coached at higher levels. One thing we do need is a football manager nothing else, just in charge of football matters and a leader as currently we have none.
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Post by chesterken on Sept 18, 2017 21:05:14 GMT
What has Barrow achieved as a manager in the last 20 years, though? He hasn't been a manager outright for a long time. There's this automatic assumption, based on one season 23 years ago, that he is our saviour. Far too much sentimentality based on performance a quarter of a century ago. If he had been a manager at a higher level, winning things during that period then I would have no issue in him coming back. What is his knowledge of National League football? Bignot, Money etc may not be romantic names in the sense of Barrow but they all have a recent track record at this level. These supporters will soon be shouting for him to be sacked when he loses a couple of games, the so called 'Legend' status will very quickly disappear ,As my Dad and Grandad have both told me these are same ones that shouted for Harry Mcnally to be sacked then when he was, suddenly decided he was a legend and named a stand after him,Chester fans throughout history have always been fickle. I don't think it's just Chester fans Debbie football fans as a whole are a fickle bunch. |
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Post by billyw on Sept 18, 2017 21:16:42 GMT
He was at the club offices today. Wouldn't believe anything this fella says. He's apparently seen all sorts of people at the club. Interviews have been elsewhere, not at the ground so this is bullshit. Correct. |
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Post by billyw on Sept 18, 2017 21:18:59 GMT
These supporters will soon be shouting for him to be sacked when he loses a couple of games, the so called 'Legend' status will very quickly disappear ,As my Dad and Grandad have both told me these are same ones that shouted for Harry Mcnally to be sacked then when he was, suddenly decided he was a legend and named a stand after him,Chester fans throughout history have always been fickle. I don't think it's just Chester fans Debbie football fans as a whole are a fickle bunch. Dead right. In fact Chester fans are more tolerant or possibly apathetic than most - take a look at the forums for Wrexham and Tranmere. Keats and Mellon are under pressure. |
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Sept 18, 2017 21:21:09 GMT
Tarvin blue you make some very good points. I have been saying for a while on here what has he achieved in recent times at any level. You have already highlighted the answer this. I'm in agreement with your thoughts. Ok there will be many on here who's best times connected with our club were under Barrow but it must must must be about what's best for the club right now with of course the initial objective to secure conference status.
I would hope that the board have within their criteria the need for someone who can bring in a handful
On a shoestring via favours etc to help improve us for the remainder of the season.
This legend status agreed but it's been and gone.
I may was deemed suitable to represent the county cross country running over 20 years ago. Certainly wouldn't be that today 😀
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