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Post by Lobster on Sept 19, 2017 15:53:12 GMT
The Whopper lot do talk out their arses, but playing devil's advocate here, the fact that interviews aren't taking place at the club doesn't rule out the possibility that he saw a candidate at the ground.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Sept 19, 2017 15:59:37 GMT
bing Yes I am a volunteer at the club and I am there most days. I love Chester F C. What I dislike is incompetent fools at the helm like McCarthy and Maguire. Sorry, but how can you be accepted as a volunteer if you call two highly important members of staff ''incompetent''? You are just mocking our club and the hard-working volunteers we have, and you aren't one of them.
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Post by whopper3 on Sept 19, 2017 16:11:50 GMT
Dave Powell ? who is he ?
Ratcliffe/Barrow were at the Chester City offices when i said they were. I saw them both.
The interviews may well have been away from the ground but they were both there at the ground in the flesh before hand as I and others saw them.
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Post by whopper3 on Sept 19, 2017 16:13:58 GMT
Riotheballboy
Stop making lies up about me. I have never mocked any volunteer at the club. Show me where I have ?
Yes I have called Mccarthy and Maguire as incompetent because they both are. McCarthy has gone and Maguire should also go.
Maguire is NOT a volunteer he is salaried at £65k a year which is ludicrous.
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Post by rcb on Sept 19, 2017 16:14:39 GMT
bing Yes I am a volunteer at the club and I am there most days. I love Chester F C. What I dislike is incompetent fools at the helm like McCarthy and Maguire. Sorry, but how can you be accepted as a volunteer if you call two highly important members of staff ''incompetent''? You are just mocking our club and the hard-working volunteers we have, and you aren't one of them. Sorry Rio, but are you suggesting Chester FC turn away volunteer offers unless they swear an oath of allegiance to the Manager and CEO? Sounds more like a sinister secret society to me. By the way, are you honestly still referring to McCarthy as an important member of staff? Why does expressing an opinion of a manager in any way mock any hard-working volunteers?
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Post by whopper3 on Sept 19, 2017 16:16:19 GMT
He was at the club offices today. Proven liar Interviews may have taken place away from the ground but there is nothing stopping applicants looking at the ground first you tit.
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Post by whopper3 on Sept 19, 2017 16:17:52 GMT
"Sorry, but how can you be accepted as a volunteer if you call two highly important members of staff ''incompetent''? You are just mocking our club and the hard-working volunteers we have, and you aren't one of them."
LOL
it's called free speech. Aren't I allowed an opinion being a volunteer ? Hilarious stuff. I have never mocked any volunteer so stop lying.
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Post by whopper3 on Sept 19, 2017 16:18:50 GMT
He was at the club offices today. Proven liar Interviews may have taken place away from the ground but there is nothing stopping applicants looking at the ground first you tit.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Sept 19, 2017 16:19:47 GMT
Sorry, but how can you be accepted as a volunteer if you call two highly important members of staff ''incompetent''? You are just mocking our club and the hard-working volunteers we have, and you aren't one of them. Sorry Rio, but are you suggesting Chester FC turn away volunteer offers unless they swear an oath of allegiance to the Manager and CEO? Sounds more like a sinister secret society to me. By the way, are you honestly still referring to McCarthy as an important member of staff? Why does expressing an opinion of a manager in any way mock any hard-working volunteers? Because the volunteers at our club clearly wouldn't call for Maguire's head/ call him incompetent when he is doing a superb job for the club. Also I don't think Whopper3 is a volunteer. He could be, but if he is then he has a strange approach towards the club.
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Post by whopper3 on Sept 19, 2017 16:20:26 GMT
In recent weeks I have seen 2 significant people at the ground. Ratcliffe and Barrow today. 2 people. No more and no less. Hardly "all sorts". and the interviews today did take part at the ground. Just saying....you know nothing. Just shows how much crap some people talk on here, deluded or compulsive liars, who knows. Interviews may have taken place away from the ground but there is nothing stopping applicants looking at the ground first you tit.
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Post by Lobster on Sept 19, 2017 16:20:55 GMT
Sorry, but how can you be accepted as a volunteer if you call two highly important members of staff ''incompetent''? You are just mocking our club and the hard-working volunteers we have, and you aren't one of them. Sorry Rio, but are you suggesting Chester FC turn away volunteer offers unless they swear an oath of allegiance to the Manager and CEO? Sounds more like a sinister secret society to me. By the way, are you honestly still referring to McCarthy as an important member of staff? Why does expressing an opinion of a manager in any way mock any hard-working volunteers? I don't think an 'oath of allegiance' is necessary, but you have to admit that the way he's carrying on is not very sensible, if he is a volunteer as he claims to be.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Sept 19, 2017 16:21:32 GMT
The Whopper lot do talk out their arses, but playing devil's advocate here, the fact that interviews aren't taking place at the club doesn't rule out the possibility that he saw a candidate at the ground. I was going to say the same thing. He could well have seen Barrow at the ground, that isn't proven one way or the other. Whopper is getting a lot of unfair stick on his thread.
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Post by whopper3 on Sept 19, 2017 16:23:22 GMT
Because the volunteers at our club clearly wouldn't call for Maguire's head/ call him incompetent when he is doing a superb job for the club. Also I don't think Whopper3 is a volunteer. He could be, but if he is then he has a strange approach towards the club. A few volunteers I talk to also think Maguire should go. Aren't we allowed such opinions ? In our view Maguire is an incompetent fool who should go now. he killed Hull. Then he killed Stockport. He is now doing the same at Chester. Care to justify his 65K salary which is ludicrous ??
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Post by technicolordreamgoat on Sept 19, 2017 16:24:08 GMT
So on that logic, if someone like Derby County had an interest from Jose Mourinho, they would turn him down because he is over qualified? What has Barrow achieved as a manager in the last 20 years, though? He hasn't been a manager outright for a long time. There's this automatic assumption, based on one season 23 years ago, that he is our saviour. Far too much sentimentality based on performance a quarter of a century ago. If he had been a manager at a higher level, winning things during that period then I would have no issue in him coming back. What is his knowledge of National League football? Bignot, Money etc may not be romantic names in the sense of Barrow but they all have a recent track record at this level.
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Post by whopper3 on Sept 19, 2017 16:24:21 GMT
Lobster
Aren't volunteers allowed an opinion ?
Do we all have to agree on everything ?
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Post by Rio Doherty on Sept 19, 2017 16:26:40 GMT
Because the volunteers at our club clearly wouldn't call for Maguire's head/ call him incompetent when he is doing a superb job for the club. Also I don't think Whopper3 is a volunteer. He could be, but if he is then he has a strange approach towards the club. A few volunteers I talk to also think Maguire should go. Aren't we allowed such opinions ? In our view Maguire is an incompetent fool who should go now. he killed Hull. Then he killed Stockport. He is now doing the same at Chester. Care to justify his 65K salary which is ludicrous ?? Why is he an ''incompetent fool''?
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Post by catfordbags on Sept 19, 2017 16:27:44 GMT
Erm...he managed a club called Chester City in our league and under very difficult circumstances finished with a 40% win ratio 16 years ago. 16 years ago we finished 8th in the Conference, having exited the league the previous season with a significant parachute payment. I would hardly say that is a ringing endorsement of his potential to get us out of the mess we are currently in. In 1994 he led us to promotion from Division 3 and at that point was a hero to Chester fans, particularly off the back of his successful playing career for us. Don't get me wrong, in his day he was a cracking manager and is a Chester legend. I just don't see what he's achieved in the last 23 years that warrant him as the outstanding candidate for the role. Moving away from the philosophical discussion of whether whopper is or is not a misguided knobhead and back to the original post .... it pains me to say that on this very rare occasion I actually agree with my favourite reactionary poster - Tarvin Blue ... however, I would like TB to nail his colours to the mast by declaring his favoured appointment and stick with who ever it is, beyond the first run of bad results our new manager encounters.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Sept 19, 2017 16:28:16 GMT
Maguire can only be judged on the balance sheet at next months AGM - comparing it to the previous financial year.
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Post by tarvinblue on Sept 19, 2017 16:38:06 GMT
16 years ago we finished 8th in the Conference, having exited the league the previous season with a significant parachute payment. I would hardly say that is a ringing endorsement of his potential to get us out of the mess we are currently in. In 1994 he led us to promotion from Division 3 and at that point was a hero to Chester fans, particularly off the back of his successful playing career for us. Don't get me wrong, in his day he was a cracking manager and is a Chester legend. I just don't see what he's achieved in the last 23 years that warrant him as the outstanding candidate for the role. Moving away from the philosophical discussion of whether whopper is or is not a misguided knobhead and back to the original post .... it pains me to say that on this very rare occasion I actually agree with my favourite reactionary poster - Tarvin Blue ... however, I would like TB to nail his colours to the mast by declaring his favoured appointment and stick with who ever it is, beyond the first run of bad results our new manager encounters. I've been saying since March that Bignot is the right candidate for the job and I have stuck by it ever since. I love the way you refer to me as reactionary when everything I have been stating for the past 9 months has actually turned into a reality!
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Post by rcb on Sept 19, 2017 16:38:28 GMT
Because the volunteers at our club clearly wouldn't call for Maguire's head/ call him incompetent when he is doing a superb job for the club. Also I don't think Whopper3 is a volunteer. He could be, but if he is then he has a strange approach towards the club. A few volunteers I talk to also think Maguire should go. Aren't we allowed such opinions ? In our view Maguire is an incompetent fool who should go now. he killed Hull. Then he killed Stockport. He is now doing the same at Chester. Care to justify his 65K salary which is ludicrous ?? Anyone who can try and kill a professional club of the stature of Hull, and then do likewise to Stockport, and even then get paid a £65K salary by Chester is neither incompetent or a fool when it comes to self preservation. He even has the committed youth supporters singing his praises! Perhaps costly and dangerous are two better words - his long continued support for McCarthy fits in with these two words. Let's see what the next set of accounts reveal.
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 19, 2017 16:47:15 GMT
Because the volunteers at our club clearly wouldn't call for Maguire's head/ call him incompetent when he is doing a superb job for the club. Also I don't think Whopper3 is a volunteer. He could be, but if he is then he has a strange approach towards the club. A few volunteers I talk to also think Maguire should go. Aren't we allowed such opinions ? In our view Maguire is an incompetent fool who should go now. he killed Hull. Then he killed Stockport. He is now doing the same at Chester. Care to justify his 65K salary which is ludicrous ?? HAHAHAHAHA you are talking out of your arse mate
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Post by Jack on Sept 19, 2017 16:48:14 GMT
I do understand the concern regarding Barrow tarnishing a legacy here, and it's a valid argument.
On the other hand, it'd be really nice if it worked. To have a genuine club legend at the helm would be great for everyone. I think it's worth the risk.
He just edges Bignot for me, but I'd be delighted with either.
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 19, 2017 16:55:55 GMT
Because the volunteers at our club clearly wouldn't call for Maguire's head/ call him incompetent when he is doing a superb job for the club. Also I don't think Whopper3 is a volunteer. He could be, but if he is then he has a strange approach towards the club. A few volunteers I talk to also think Maguire should go. Aren't we allowed such opinions ? In our view Maguire is an incompetent fool who should go now. he killed Hull. Then he killed Stockport. He is now doing the same at Chester. Care to justify his 65K salary which is ludicrous ?? Anyone who can try and kill a professional club of the stature of Hull, and then do likewise to Stockport, and even then get paid a £65K salary by Chester is neither incompetent or a fool when it comes to self preservation. He even has the committed youth supporters singing his praises! Perhaps costly and dangerous are two better words - his long continued support for McCarthy fits in with these two words. Let's see what the next set of accounts reveal. He didn't kill either, stop spreading bullshit.
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Sept 19, 2017 17:40:18 GMT
Interviews may have taken place away from the ground but there is nothing stopping applicants looking at the ground first you tit. Yeah because they've both never seen the ground 😂
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Post by whopper3 on Sept 19, 2017 17:44:18 GMT
Because the volunteers at our club clearly wouldn't call for Maguire's head/ call him incompetent when he is doing a superb job for the club. Also I don't think Whopper3 is a volunteer. He could be, but if he is then he has a strange approach towards the club. A few volunteers I talk to also think Maguire should go. Aren't we allowed such opinions ? In our view Maguire is an incompetent fool who should go now. he killed Hull. Then he killed Stockport. He is now doing the same at Chester. Care to justify his 65K salary which is ludicrous ?? HAHAHAHAHA you are talking out of your arse mate I'm not your mate. In the real world a fair few fans/volunteers want maguire gone also. He has blood on his hands over the McCarthy contract debacle.
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Post by sqzl on Sept 19, 2017 17:45:00 GMT
Just saying....you know nothing. Just shows how much crap some people talk on here, deluded or compulsive liars, who knows. Interviews may have taken place away from the ground but there is nothing stopping applicants looking at the ground first you tit. Am I missing something? Your first post says "and interviews today did take part at the ground" and now you're saying "they may not take taken part at the ground" but they went to have a look around? I suppose Barrow and Ratcliffe might have forgotten what the ground looks like....never seen it before have they? YOU tit.
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Post by whopper3 on Sept 19, 2017 17:45:53 GMT
dmcnally
Maguire did kill Hull and Stockport. Go and ask their fans what they think of the incompetent fool ?
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Post by whopper3 on Sept 19, 2017 17:48:06 GMT
sqzl and you believe everything David powell tweets ? he has been seen to be wrong on a few occasions I can think of.
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Post by southernblue on Sept 19, 2017 17:50:41 GMT
Can someone tell me what Barrow has achieved at National League level in the last 20 years that makes him such a favourite? 23 years ago he led us to promotion from Division 3 and then he had a mediocre campaign with us when we were first relegated to this level in the early noughties. Since then he has been assistant manager at much higher levels to various different coaches. In his day he was a great manager but I don't understand the emotion and sentimentality towards his return. His most recent job has been as assistant at Chesterfield, who are 23rd in League 2. I admired him as a player and admired him all those years ago during that promotion campaign but I can see no logical evidence as to why he is the best man for this job. Time to wheel out the Barrow, let's have another manager we keep for years who has that link to the late great Harry McNally and no doubt has inherited some of his quality. That promotion shows his capabilities. When he took over from the mad yank we were nailed on for relegation to the conference North. He was never going to set the world on fire with all the dross the yank clown brought to the circus but he stabilised the ship and kept us up, that's exactly what we need now.
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Post by southernblue on Sept 19, 2017 17:53:30 GMT
If GB is being interviewed then I can't see how anybody else could get a look in? Put his association with us to one side. He's played, coached or managed / assistant managed at every level of the game from our current level through to the Premiership, including Wembley finals. Who's CV would come close to that? If something could be agreed we would be punching way above our weight based on an affection / affinity with our club. That of course is no guarantee for success, after all it is a "funny old game", but come on we just couldn't afford that level and knowledge and experience without the historical connection. Please come home Graham! Someone else could get a look in because Barrow is only a short term fix and we'd be looking for a new manager before not too long. He also has no recent experience of the conference, which has changed for the worse in recent years, with more money than ever in the division. How on earth is he a short term fix? He has all the qualities to be the longest serving manager since Harry McNally.
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