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Post by Slipper Read on Sept 18, 2017 21:23:08 GMT
Bignot at a lower level like Neil Young, Richard Money can't disagree but sometimes it's better the devil you know and think Grahams association with the club and as a leader is what we need in this current battle. |
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Post by Slipper Read on Sept 18, 2017 21:33:46 GMT
If Graham is available I would bite his hand off, in an ideal world Andy Holden would be along side him.
I am not sure why anyone who has seen teams Graham has been involved with, usually underdogs(Wigan winning FA Cup)doesn't think he can still do a job here. I am not sure I want someone who has a bit of a record in the national league, I think I want someone who knows this club and what it takes to get a team playing and get promoted.
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Post by Oaks Blue on Sept 18, 2017 21:57:15 GMT
His last stints as manager of Chester were in bad times and under the wrong type of owner.
This is the perfect opportunity for him and the club to shine again.
What exactly have the other applicants achieved at national league premier level? Nothing
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Post by Lobster on Sept 18, 2017 22:10:40 GMT
His last stints as manager of Chester were in bad times and under the wrong type of owner. This is the perfect opportunity for him and the club to shine again. What exactly have the other applicants achieved at national league premier level? Nothing In the case of Richard Money, promotion from it. |
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Post by CH3STER on Sept 18, 2017 22:11:30 GMT
Get him in ASAP and get the players in everyday this week. Saturday is a huge game for the club. Imagine the lift we will get if we have Barrow back and can get three points
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Post by whopper3 on Sept 18, 2017 22:11:32 GMT
He was at the club offices today. Wouldn't believe anything this fella says. He's apparently seen all sorts of people at the club. Interviews have been elsewhere, not at the ground so this is bullshit. In recent weeks I have seen 2 significant people at the ground. Ratcliffe and Barrow today. 2 people. No more and no less. Hardly "all sorts". and the interviews today did take part at the ground. |
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Post by Oaks Blue on Sept 18, 2017 22:11:41 GMT
His last stints as manager of Chester were in bad times and under the wrong type of owner. This is the perfect opportunity for him and the club to shine again. What exactly have the other applicants achieved at national league premier level? Nothing In the case of Richard Money, promotion from it. He'd have to be called Richard Skint to make me feel optimistic about him being successful for us |
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 18, 2017 22:18:53 GMT
dmcnally I guess you don't like people like me who get information from the club before low life like you. LOL Low life is people like yourself making up rumours and calling for people doing a good job to leave the club. LOL Were you not on Devachat in the summer when people were coming to me asking who we were signing next as I was ITK. LOL |
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Post by whopper3 on Sept 18, 2017 22:27:24 GMT
Maguire is NOT doing a good job. He is incompetent and should be sacked.
I have seen Ratcliffe and Barrow at the ground recently. FACT not rumours old boy.
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 18, 2017 22:39:39 GMT
Maguire is NOT doing a good job. He is incompetent and should be sacked. I have seen Ratcliffe and Barrow at the ground recently. FACT not rumours old boy. 😂😂😂 😂😂😂 |
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Post by cfc11 on Sept 18, 2017 22:47:04 GMT
Maguire is NOT doing a good job. He is incompetent and should be sacked. I have seen Ratcliffe and Barrow at the ground recently. FACT not rumours old boy. Maguire left the ground around 10am today to do interviews. What time did you see Mr Barrow then? |
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Post by bing on Sept 18, 2017 22:48:49 GMT
Maguire is NOT doing a good job. He is incompetent and should be sacked. I have seen Ratcliffe and Barrow at the ground recently. FACT not rumours old boy. For you to have seen both Ratcliffe and Barrow the exact moment they were at the ground would suggest you are a volunteer at the club. Given your less-than-sunny-disposition for anything Chester related, I find it hard to believe you'd be a volunteer!! |
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Post by BarntonBen on Sept 19, 2017 9:25:16 GMT
So on that logic, if someone like Derby County had an interest from Jose Mourinho, they would turn him down because he is over qualified? What has Barrow achieved as a manager in the last 20 years, though? He hasn't been a manager outright for a long time. There's this automatic assumption, based on one season 23 years ago, that he is our saviour. Far too much sentimentality based on performance a quarter of a century ago. If he had been a manager at a higher level, winning things during that period then I would have no issue in him coming back. What is his knowledge of National League football? Bignot, Money etc may not be romantic names in the sense of Barrow but they all have a recent track record at this level. Erm...he managed a club called Chester City in our league and under very difficult circumstances finished with a 40% win ratio 16 years ago. |
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Post by whopper3 on Sept 19, 2017 9:39:57 GMT
bing
Yes I am a volunteer at the club and I am there most days.
I love Chester F C. What I dislike is incompetent fools at the helm like McCarthy and Maguire.
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Post by JonahCFC on Sept 19, 2017 9:53:18 GMT
bing Yes I am a volunteer at the club and I am there most days. I love Chester F C. What I dislike is incompetent fools at the helm like McCarthy and Maguire. You proper reek of goat |
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Post by sqzl on Sept 19, 2017 10:22:16 GMT
Well, back on topic, it would appear GB is a strong candidate for the job all of a sudden. Legend around the club, but is this the best long term solution to our problems. IMO, sometimes things are best left in the past. Think Mourinho returning to Chelsea, didn't end well.
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Post by rcb on Sept 19, 2017 10:38:48 GMT
Well, back on topic, it would appear GB is a strong candidate for the job all of a sudden. Legend around the club, but is this the best long term solution to our problems. IMO, sometimes things are best left in the past. Think Mourinho returning to Chelsea, didn't end well. I don't think we are in a position to look for a "long term solution" as a priority. We are in such a predicament that a "short term to the point of immediate solution" is required in order to give us any long term to look forward to. i previously posted my opinion that a Graham Barrow/Andy Holden ticket would offer an opportunity for a short term solution whilst also building for the longer term. Manchester United appointed Tommy Docherty for 1973/74 season, got relegated and successfully promoted again the next season. Unlike United then, we are a long way off having resources to bounce back, effectively making this a "sh*t or bust" season. |
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Post by Charfield Blue on Sept 19, 2017 11:19:40 GMT
If GB is being interviewed then I can't see how anybody else could get a look in? Put his association with us to one side. He's played, coached or managed / assistant managed at every level of the game from our current level through to the Premiership, including Wembley finals. Who's CV would come close to that? If something could be agreed we would be punching way above our weight based on an affection / affinity with our club.
That of course is no guarantee for success, after all it is a "funny old game", but come on we just couldn't afford that level and knowledge and experience without the historical connection.
Please come home Graham!
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Sept 19, 2017 11:30:08 GMT
I would feel much more confident with Barrow, at the helm. Massive experience and contacts, throughout the game. And a Chester legend, to boot.
Bring him home.
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Post by loskasleftfoot on Sept 19, 2017 11:59:12 GMT
He would bring an immediate lift to the club and inspire many of the older fans who now support from their armchairs to get down to the ground once more.
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Post by sqzl on Sept 19, 2017 12:23:00 GMT
Well, back on topic, it would appear GB is a strong candidate for the job all of a sudden. Legend around the club, but is this the best long term solution to our problems. IMO, sometimes things are best left in the past. Think Mourinho returning to Chelsea, didn't end well. . We are in such a predicament that a "short term to the point of immediate solution" is required in order to give us any long term to look forward to. i previously posted my opinion that a Graham Barrow/Andy Holden ticket would offer an opportunity for a short term solution whilst also building for the longer term. Manchester United appointed Tommy Docherty for 1973/74 season, got relegated and successfully promoted again the next season. Unlike United then, we are a long way off having resources to bounce back, effectively making this a "sh*t or bust" season. Can't disagree with you there. I just think that some posts relate to giving the fans a much needed lift. That isn't at all what's needed here, its a man that brings in results that will ultimately lift us as fans. Barrow is a superb candidate, with a great CV, but the decision has to be based on the conference knowledge of here and now. No doubt he's a good manager, and an icon at the Deva, but my question would be, is he best equipped, in 2017, for bringing us out of trouble. Time will tell. For what it's worth, i'm hoping for Bignot, but would be happy with Money or Barrow as an alternative. As a Chester fan, you can't help but worry we'll appoint Watson on the cheap and try to mask it with talk of him being 'superb' in interviews last time and this. |
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 19, 2017 13:08:59 GMT
If GB is being interviewed then I can't see how anybody else could get a look in? Put his association with us to one side. He's played, coached or managed / assistant managed at every level of the game from our current level through to the Premiership, including Wembley finals. Who's CV would come close to that? If something could be agreed we would be punching way above our weight based on an affection / affinity with our club. That of course is no guarantee for success, after all it is a "funny old game", but come on we just couldn't afford that level and knowledge and experience without the historical connection. Please come home Graham! Someone else could get a look in because Barrow is only a short term fix and we'd be looking for a new manager before not too long. He also has no recent experience of the conference, which has changed for the worse in recent years, with more money than ever in the division. |
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Post by Charfield Blue on Sept 19, 2017 13:27:58 GMT
If GB is being interviewed then I can't see how anybody else could get a look in? Put his association with us to one side. He's played, coached or managed / assistant managed at every level of the game from our current level through to the Premiership, including Wembley finals. Who's CV would come close to that? If something could be agreed we would be punching way above our weight based on an affection / affinity with our club. That of course is no guarantee for success, after all it is a "funny old game", but come on we just couldn't afford that level and knowledge and experience without the historical connection. Please come home Graham! Someone else could get a look in because Barrow is only a short term fix and we'd be looking for a new manager before not too long. He also has no recent experience of the conference, which has changed for the worse in recent years, with more money than ever in the division. What do you call short term Danny. What's the average tenure of a manager these days? Graham's only 63 and if he's fit and well, which I assume he is since he was an assistant manger up until 5:00 p.m on Saturday, then I see no reason to think he's only a short term appointment. Not by modern management standards anyhow. I'd call him experienced. Something we desperately need to steer the good ship Chester. |
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 19, 2017 13:32:43 GMT
Someone else could get a look in because Barrow is only a short term fix and we'd be looking for a new manager before not too long. He also has no recent experience of the conference, which has changed for the worse in recent years, with more money than ever in the division. What do you call short term Danny. What's the average tenure of a manager these days? Graham's only 63 and if he's fit and well, which I assume he is since he was an assistant manger up until 5:00 p.m on Saturday, then I see no reason to think he's only a short term appointment. Not by modern management standards anyhow. I'd call him experienced. Something we desperately need to steer the good ship Chester. Don't get me wrong I'd be happy to see him appointed, but I think we'd be better off with someone like Bignot who'd be here to start a project with us. |
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Post by Charfield Blue on Sept 19, 2017 13:40:08 GMT
What do you call short term Danny. What's the average tenure of a manager these days? Graham's only 63 and if he's fit and well, which I assume he is since he was an assistant manger up until 5:00 p.m on Saturday, then I see no reason to think he's only a short term appointment. Not by modern management standards anyhow. I'd call him experienced. Something we desperately need to steer the good ship Chester. Don't get me wrong I'd be happy to see him appointed, but I think we'd be better off with someone like Bignot who'd be here to start a project with us. Whoever's appointed they're going to need that all important ingredient......LUCK. |
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Post by neutral on Sept 19, 2017 13:43:30 GMT
Barrow is still under contract at Chesterfield although I would imagine we would release him without to much of a fight. He was asked to take the first team in the wake of Caldwells sacking but refused stating he was only at the club to support Caldwell. There is nothing left for him to remain.
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Post by sqzl on Sept 19, 2017 14:45:00 GMT
Wouldn't believe anything this fella says. He's apparently seen all sorts of people at the club. Interviews have been elsewhere, not at the ground so this is bullshit. In recent weeks I have seen 2 significant people at the ground. Ratcliffe and Barrow today. 2 people. No more and no less. Hardly "all sorts". and the interviews today did take part at the ground. Just saying....you know nothing. Just shows how much crap some people talk on here, deluded or compulsive liars, who knows. |
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Post by tarvinblue on Sept 19, 2017 15:16:48 GMT
What has Barrow achieved as a manager in the last 20 years, though? He hasn't been a manager outright for a long time. There's this automatic assumption, based on one season 23 years ago, that he is our saviour. Far too much sentimentality based on performance a quarter of a century ago. If he had been a manager at a higher level, winning things during that period then I would have no issue in him coming back. What is his knowledge of National League football? Bignot, Money etc may not be romantic names in the sense of Barrow but they all have a recent track record at this level. Erm...he managed a club called Chester City in our league and under very difficult circumstances finished with a 40% win ratio 16 years ago. 16 years ago we finished 8th in the Conference, having exited the league the previous season with a significant parachute payment. I would hardly say that is a ringing endorsement of his potential to get us out of the mess we are currently in. In 1994 he led us to promotion from Division 3 and at that point was a hero to Chester fans, particularly off the back of his successful playing career for us. Don't get me wrong, in his day he was a cracking manager and is a Chester legend. I just don't see what he's achieved in the last 23 years that warrant him as the outstanding candidate for the role. |
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Sept 19, 2017 15:18:54 GMT
He was at the club offices today. Proven liar |
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Post by shango on Sept 19, 2017 15:23:02 GMT
In recent weeks I have seen 2 significant people at the ground. Ratcliffe and Barrow today. 2 people. No more and no less. Hardly "all sorts". and the interviews today did take part at the ground. Just saying....you know nothing. Just shows how much crap some people talk on here, deluded or compulsive liars, who knows. Tbh lad's forum's attract attention seeker's and that's all your dealing with.Disturbing that the poor lad or lass has got ... all else to do. A strange breed those troll's. P*** OFF RONNIE MOORE too btw...Am i allowed to say that?If not i meant GET LOST ronnie moore. |
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